Think about this. They were naked before the fall. If they hadn't fallen it would always be nice out and the women would always be naked. Damn you Adam.
And if they hadn't succombed to tempation they wouldn't have known lust.
Yes, God's manifest glory in the Garden and on Adam and Even must have been ... glorious.
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
I've read a lot of what you've put forward about 'spirituality' and as much work as I need I can still tell that on such matters you are as lost as a goose in a blizzard.
Yet you believe some dude in the sky snapped his fingers and created the world in a day, and all that exists in seven of those days, correct?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
I hunt and kill coyotes: canis lupis vs. canis latrans, one's bigger and one's smaller. There's a reason the wolves were exterminated from the lower 48 states: they're KILLERS of livestock and people.
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
Yes, God's manifest glory in the Garden and on Adam and Even must have been ... glorious.
If there truly was a single man named Adam (which there wasn't according to the actual Hebrew texts), and there was just one female named Eve, did Cain bang his mom, sisters, and/or daughters to make a bunch of babies? Where'd WE come from then if he didn't?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Yet you believe some dude in the sky snapped his fingers and created the world in a day, and all that exists in seven of those days, correct?
I can tell you this as fact: I've met Jesus and know truth.
It's keeping it that I have to give myself to daily.
You are a blind man barking in the dark just to hear your own voice.
Again, no offense.
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
I support killing wolves from the air if wildlife biologists say to thin them out. I'd volunteer to pull the trigger on 1,000 wolves if given the opportunity.
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
Uh huh. I've met God Himself and he said you are deluded, and to tell you so.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
I'd volunteer to pull the trigger on 1,000 wolves if given the opportunity.
Then you are a sick fuck.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
If there truly was a single man named Adam (which there wasn't according to the actual Hebrew texts), and there was just one female named Eve, did Cain bang his mom, sisters, and/or daughters to make a bunch of babies? Where'd WE come from then if he didn't?
When you become born again by the Holy Spirit AND I can know in my heart I'm recommitted to serving the truth with all my heart, soul and strength - then let's have a serious discussion. ;-)
It's pointless until then. You just make it up as you go.
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
and it would be a different matter if it were a clean kill every time rather than shooting the poor things in the back causing them to suffer for however long. i realize i'm being idealistic, but it does seem to me that's a particularly horrific method.
Uh huh. I've met God Himself and he said you are deluded, and to tell you so.
Like I said..
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
There's a reason the wolves were exterminated from the lower 48 states: they're KILLERS of livestock and people.
One time years ago I had a dog appear in the middle of the desert who led me to an Indian reservation as night was falling when I was on foot and hopelessly lost with no natural bearings to guide me. I do not doubt animals are highly intelligent, and are more compassionate and caring than most humans.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
and it would be a different matter if it were a clean kill every time rather than shooting the poor things in the back causing them to suffer for however long. i realize i'm being idealistic, but it does seem to me that's a particularly horrific method.
We are certainly on the same page here christine.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
C'mon Rotara, don't cop out, tell us where we came from if there were only one man and one woman. I want to know what YOU think on this...
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
I'm not copping out; I'm sparing myself the waste of time that occurs while engaging you.
Be it "Man Made Global Warming", ecology, "Spirituality", etc.
You are a God mocker, which is your problem. Not mine.
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
You wouldn't know the first thing about the Holy Spirit if it flew on top of your head. BTW, did you know the term Holy Spirit refers to the feminine aspect of God, where God is the unity of both male AND female, and that is why Genesis states "God created MANKIND in THEIR own image, male and female God created them"?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
You do realize that if we didn't kill off a bunch of Bambi-moms every year, all deer would suffer as they over-populated, right?
shhhhh !
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Wolf populations increased because they had a larger food supply.
The same thing happens here from time to time but in some places people depend on the same food supply and these are the areas where some packs are thinned.
I'm still killing coyotes nearly every weekend as long as it's cold weather. I have the FULL support of my local US Forest Service technicians (that's "forest rangers").
People look away when they see an Indian with a wolf-hide draped over their head and it's claws on a necklace around their neck.
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
Wrong. It's people like you that believe their preacher over their own intelligence and conscience that mock God, as they seek not the Truth, but rely on fairytales to sooth themselves into thinking just because they BELIEVE in something their eternal happiness is guaranteed, and proceed to do whatever they wish since they think they have it all in the bag simply because of that belief.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The same thing happens here from time to time but in some places people depend on the same food supply and these are the areas where some packs are thinned.
Hence leading to an over population of other animals, leading to death by starvation as THEIR food supplies dwindle.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
People look away when they see an Indian with a wolf-hide draped over their head and it's claws on a necklace around their neck.
Beautiful
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Incidently Rotara, God didn't pen the Bible, MEN did. Those MEN were not always honest, and much of that contained in the Bible has nothing to do with God, but the DESIRES of MEN.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The wildlife conservation organizations listed below represent the interests of millions of sportsmen and women from across America. We appreciate the complexities in delisting the Northern Rocky Mountain distinct population segment of gray wolves under the Endangered Species Act. We submit these comments in response to the Federal Register notice published on October 28, 2008 at 73 Fed. Reg. 63926.
We support delisting this population and offer the following six principles to guide the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and state wildlife agencies.
1. When wolf populations meet scientific viability criteria for recovery they no longer require federal protection under the Endangered Species Act (ESA). They should be de-listed if recovery plan goals are met and where regulatory mechanisms are in place to adequately manage the species.
2. After the wolf is de-listed, scientifically sound wolf management programs administered by state wildlife agencies should maintain sustainable wolf populations to preclude the need to re-list under the ESA.
3. Reflecting the success of other historic hunter/conservationist-led species recovery programs, wolves should be managed as big game animals in areas designated for wolf occupancy and wolf seasons should be regulated by the states.
4. Where and when hunting is deemed appropriate under state regulations, methods used by hunters must conform to Fair Chase principles.
5. When classified as game animals, wolf populations should be maintained in accordance with the biological and cultural carrying capacities of the habitats they occupy.
6. Management of individual wolves and wolf populations should also recognize the need to balance management objectives with respect for private property and human well-being.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on this significant regulatory action. Please note that the organizations and individual members of the hunting and sustainable use conservation community may separately submit their own comments in response to the de-listing proposal.
Boone and Crockett Club Congressional Sportsmens Foundation Dallas Safari Club Houston Safari Club National Shooting Sports Foundation National Wild Turkey Federation Quality Deer Management Association Ruffed Grouse Society Sand County Foundation Wildlife Management Institute
Campfire Club of America Conservation Force Foundation for North American Wild Sheep Mule Deer Foundation National Trappers Association Pope & Young Club Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation Safari Club International Texas Wildlife Association
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
"Innagoddadavida baby, you know that I love you..." Remember?
i don't remember that one?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
of course i realize it. it is a cruel world. i wish i had the power to make it not so. things would look a whole lot different around here were i in control. ;)
I bet the Israelis can list a bunch of groups who support their genocide against the Palestinian people as well...
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Didn't catch this well thought out comment of yours. So you're saying the video is fake and people aren't shooting at wolves from aircraft, and that Sarah Palin doesn't support it?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Nope. The band is Iron Butterfly, and they were around since before Woodstock.
I had their original album, in fact, it's still in my collection.
They're pretty much a one hit wonder, this song being that one hit. It featured a 20 something minute drum solo, so they didn't get a whole lot of airplay.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
You can't speak ONE word against ANY of those groups the RMEF listed in post #166.
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
That's 7300 years ago, and there were people around WAY before them...
According to the Carbon-14 dating method. I suppose you believe that there is nothing wrong with that method. But you also believe man is causing global warming despite the lack of scientific evidence. Stating something as fact without having solid science behind it means very little, unless of course you would rather just have faith that no would lie to you about the accuracy of Carbon-14 dating, as you have faith that no one would lie to you about man causing global warming.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen