and it would be a different matter if it were a clean kill every time rather than shooting the poor things in the back causing them to suffer for however long. i realize i'm being idealistic, but it does seem to me that's a particularly horrific method.
We are certainly on the same page here christine.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
C'mon Rotara, don't cop out, tell us where we came from if there were only one man and one woman. I want to know what YOU think on this...
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
I'm not copping out; I'm sparing myself the waste of time that occurs while engaging you.
Be it "Man Made Global Warming", ecology, "Spirituality", etc.
You are a God mocker, which is your problem. Not mine.
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
You wouldn't know the first thing about the Holy Spirit if it flew on top of your head. BTW, did you know the term Holy Spirit refers to the feminine aspect of God, where God is the unity of both male AND female, and that is why Genesis states "God created MANKIND in THEIR own image, male and female God created them"?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
You do realize that if we didn't kill off a bunch of Bambi-moms every year, all deer would suffer as they over-populated, right?
shhhhh !
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Wolf populations increased because they had a larger food supply.
The same thing happens here from time to time but in some places people depend on the same food supply and these are the areas where some packs are thinned.
I'm still killing coyotes nearly every weekend as long as it's cold weather. I have the FULL support of my local US Forest Service technicians (that's "forest rangers").
People look away when they see an Indian with a wolf-hide draped over their head and it's claws on a necklace around their neck.
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
Wrong. It's people like you that believe their preacher over their own intelligence and conscience that mock God, as they seek not the Truth, but rely on fairytales to sooth themselves into thinking just because they BELIEVE in something their eternal happiness is guaranteed, and proceed to do whatever they wish since they think they have it all in the bag simply because of that belief.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The same thing happens here from time to time but in some places people depend on the same food supply and these are the areas where some packs are thinned.
Hence leading to an over population of other animals, leading to death by starvation as THEIR food supplies dwindle.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
People look away when they see an Indian with a wolf-hide draped over their head and it's claws on a necklace around their neck.
Beautiful
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
Incidently Rotara, God didn't pen the Bible, MEN did. Those MEN were not always honest, and much of that contained in the Bible has nothing to do with God, but the DESIRES of MEN.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
The wildlife conservation organizations listed below represent the interests of millions of sportsmen and women from across America. We appreciate the complexities in delisting the Northern Rocky Mountain distinct population segment of gray wolves under the Endangered Species Act. We submit these comments in response to the Federal Register notice published on October 28, 2008 at 73 Fed. Reg. 63926.
We support delisting this population and offer the following six principles to guide the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and state wildlife agencies.
1. When wolf populations meet scientific viability criteria for recovery they no longer require federal protection under the Endangered Species Act (ESA). They should be de-listed if recovery plan goals are met and where regulatory mechanisms are in place to adequately manage the species.
2. After the wolf is de-listed, scientifically sound wolf management programs administered by state wildlife agencies should maintain sustainable wolf populations to preclude the need to re-list under the ESA.
3. Reflecting the success of other historic hunter/conservationist-led species recovery programs, wolves should be managed as big game animals in areas designated for wolf occupancy and wolf seasons should be regulated by the states.
4. Where and when hunting is deemed appropriate under state regulations, methods used by hunters must conform to Fair Chase principles.
5. When classified as game animals, wolf populations should be maintained in accordance with the biological and cultural carrying capacities of the habitats they occupy.
6. Management of individual wolves and wolf populations should also recognize the need to balance management objectives with respect for private property and human well-being.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on this significant regulatory action. Please note that the organizations and individual members of the hunting and sustainable use conservation community may separately submit their own comments in response to the de-listing proposal.
Boone and Crockett Club Congressional Sportsmens Foundation Dallas Safari Club Houston Safari Club National Shooting Sports Foundation National Wild Turkey Federation Quality Deer Management Association Ruffed Grouse Society Sand County Foundation Wildlife Management Institute
Campfire Club of America Conservation Force Foundation for North American Wild Sheep Mule Deer Foundation National Trappers Association Pope & Young Club Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation Safari Club International Texas Wildlife Association
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
"Innagoddadavida baby, you know that I love you..." Remember?
i don't remember that one?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
of course i realize it. it is a cruel world. i wish i had the power to make it not so. things would look a whole lot different around here were i in control. ;)
I bet the Israelis can list a bunch of groups who support their genocide against the Palestinian people as well...
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Didn't catch this well thought out comment of yours. So you're saying the video is fake and people aren't shooting at wolves from aircraft, and that Sarah Palin doesn't support it?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Nope. The band is Iron Butterfly, and they were around since before Woodstock.
I had their original album, in fact, it's still in my collection.
They're pretty much a one hit wonder, this song being that one hit. It featured a 20 something minute drum solo, so they didn't get a whole lot of airplay.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
You can't speak ONE word against ANY of those groups the RMEF listed in post #166.
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
That's 7300 years ago, and there were people around WAY before them...
According to the Carbon-14 dating method. I suppose you believe that there is nothing wrong with that method. But you also believe man is causing global warming despite the lack of scientific evidence. Stating something as fact without having solid science behind it means very little, unless of course you would rather just have faith that no would lie to you about the accuracy of Carbon-14 dating, as you have faith that no one would lie to you about man causing global warming.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Go argue with the archeologists. I'm sure you've studied this stuff more than they have, eh?
Ubaid period: 5300 4100 BC (Pottery Neolithic to Chalcolithic)
Uruk period: 4100 2900 BC (Late Chalcolithic to Early Bronze Age I)
Uruk XIV-V: 4100 3300 BC
Uruk IV period: 3300 3000 BC
Jemdet Nasr period (Uruk III): 3000 2900 BC
Early Dynastic period (Early Bronze Age II-IV)
Early Dynastic I period: 2900 2800 BC
Early Dynastic II period: 2800 2600 BC (Gilgamesh)
Early Dynastic IIIa period: 2600 2500 BC
Early Dynastic IIIb period: ca. 2500 2334 BC
Akkadian Empire period: ca. 2334 2218 BC (Sargon)
Gutian period: ca. 2218 2047 BC (Early Bronze Age IV)
Ur III period: ca. 2047 1940 BC
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
You can't speak ONE word against ANY of those groups the RMEF listed in post #166.
Oh, and why not?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
as you have faith that no one would lie to you about man causing global warming
Pot meet kettle...
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
f course i realize it. it is a cruel world. i wish i had the power to make it not so. things would look a whole lot different around here were i in control. ;)
I wish you were Emperor of the Globe, with Cynicon as your PM.
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
Individually, they do more for wildlife than any other group of Timothy Treadwell wannabe's on the planet.
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
Didn't catch this well thought out comment of yours. So you're saying the video is fake and people aren't shooting at wolves from aircraft, and that Sarah Palin doesn't support it?
No. I'm saying the article you linked about man not being omnivors is bullshit.
Ok, then I say the Earth formed billions of years ago, and life did not all of sudden pop up, it took another billion years or so for sentient creatures to walk the Earth.
Do you REALLY believe that?
True macro evolution belief is only for die-hard believers who have gone over the edge of reality into the abyss of insanity.
P.S. coyotes have been known to get into watermelons but that doesn't mean they're evolving into cows.
_________________________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus, shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. When will he come to Kenya to save us?
The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit! -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
No. I'm saying the article you linked about man not being omnivors is bullshit.
Says who, you? There is a LARGE body of evidence that indicates man was originally a herbivore, and there is no physiological evidence that man was originally an omnivore. Man has BECOME an omnivore over time, but he wasn't made for that originally.
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Horses have INCISORS, are you saying they are meat eaters?
"The real deal is this: the royalty controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
But anyways, Carbon dating is only reliable if you think the rate of decay is a constant. If it isn't a constant then carbon dating may only work reliably for a few hundred years at best. There is evidence the Carbon-14 decay rate is not a constant.
I just happened to respond to Old Friend poking fun at another, calling them "flat earther" for having a different persepective re: man's time on this earth. I had just read the article re: the axes prior to checkin out 4um. Hence, I thought I would share that millions of years of humans is not so far fetched in the realms of archeology and science.
Nobody mentioned carbon dating of the axes, but rather rock dating. The margin of error on this particular dating was give or take 610K years, not a few hundred years.
Horses have INCISORS, are you saying they are meat eaters?
I can open a beer bottle with my teeth.
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all