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Title: Sarah Palin Champions Barbaric Aerial Hunting of Wolves
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGPFPBmzRrQ
Published: Sep 3, 2008
Author: defendersactionfund
Post Date: 2009-02-03 17:56:11 by FormerLurker
Keywords: Barbaric, Animal slaughter, Compassionate Conservatism, Sarah Palin
Views: 19431
Comments: 460


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"Compassionate Conservatism" at it's best...

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#50. To: FormerLurker (#0)

Barbaric, Animal slaughter, Compassionate Conservatism, Sarah Palin

Are you sure you aren't a former mental patient? Or maybe an escaped one?

RickyJ  posted on  2009-02-03   22:04:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: RickyJ (#50)

Are you sure you aren't a former mental patient? Or maybe an escaped one?

Let's see;

YOU - needless massacre of innocent creatures.
ME - against needless massacre of innocent creatures.

Uh huh. So are you still slapping your mom around and killing puppies to pass the time? Or have you progressed to bigger and better things yet?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   22:11:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: FormerLurker (#58)

There are no innocent creatures. None. Herds have to be thinned out from time to time. I am sorry you do not appreciate this or comprehend why. Animals are not human, treating them as if they are is a mistake.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-02-03   22:14:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: RickyJ (#61)

There are no innocent creatures.

That's a convenient notion and self-righteous excuse if you plan on killing them.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   22:17:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: FormerLurker (#63)

That's a convenient notion and self-righteous excuse if you plan on killing them.

How can I eat them if I don't kill them first?

Eating them alive would be wrong.

RickyJ  posted on  2009-02-03   22:39:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: RickyJ (#76)

How can I eat them if I don't kill them first?

Thing is, there are MANY other things to eat. I'm not a vegetarian, YET. But I do feel sorrow over those creatures who live miserable lives being raised in horrific conditions simply to serve as food, and those who die agonizing deaths for whatever reason.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   22:51:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: FormerLurker (#89)

But I do feel sorrow over those creatures who live miserable lives being raised in horrific conditions simply to serve as food, and those who die agonizing deaths for whatever reason.

i do too.

christine  posted on  2009-02-03   23:02:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: christine (#93)

i do too.

That's what I find extremely interesting in terms of the Essenes and their way of life, as it IS in harmony with Nature, and what a truly spiritual person would seek.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:22:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: FormerLurker (#117)

what a truly spiritual person would seek.

Please give us all YOUR definition of "a truly spiritual person" if you would.

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-03   23:24:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Rotara (#120)

Please give us all YOUR definition of "a truly spiritual person" if you would.

One who has forsaken material desires and devoted him or herself to seeking communication with God through various techniques including prayer and meditation, as well as the rejection of any animal flesh for food.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:34:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: FormerLurker, Rotara (#130)

as well as the rejection of any animal flesh for food.

Why would you include that when the Creator made us omnivors?

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-03   23:35:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: farmfriend (#132)

Why would you include that when the Creator made us omnivors?

God didn't. In fact, we don't have the teeth to be natural meat eaters, we only acquired the taste for flesh over time. We were originally herbivores.

Are Humans Omnivores?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-03   23:40:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: FormerLurker (#135)

God didn't. In fact, we don't have the teeth to be natural meat eaters, we only acquired the taste for flesh over time. We were originally herbivores.

Your article is a bunch of bullshit.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-03   23:46:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: farmfriend (#146)

Your article is a bunch of bullshit.

Didn't catch this well thought out comment of yours. So you're saying the video is fake and people aren't shooting at wolves from aircraft, and that Sarah Palin doesn't support it?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-04   0:14:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: FormerLurker (#171)

Didn't catch this well thought out comment of yours. So you're saying the video is fake and people aren't shooting at wolves from aircraft, and that Sarah Palin doesn't support it?

No. I'm saying the article you linked about man not being omnivors is bullshit.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-04   0:31:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: farmfriend, FormerLurker (#186)

We have INCISORS for MEAT:

P.S. coyotes have been known to get into watermelons but that doesn't mean they're evolving into cows.

X-15  posted on  2009-02-04   0:36:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: X-15 (#188)

We have INCISORS for MEAT

Horses have INCISORS, are you saying they are meat eaters?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-04   0:40:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: FormerLurker, X-15, all (#190)

We have INCISORS for MEAT

Horses have INCISORS, are you saying they are meat eaters?

I can open a beer bottle with my teeth.

wudidiz  posted on  2009-02-04   0:43:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: wudidiz (#192)

I can open a beer bottle with my teeth.

Hmmm. I wonder what sort of scientific name that would be, brewavore?

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-04   0:44:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: FormerLurker (#194)

Hmmm. I wonder what sort of scientific name that would be, brewavore?

Monkeys don't eat meat, do they?

wudidiz  posted on  2009-02-04   0:47:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: wudidiz (#195)

Monkeys don't eat meat, do they?

Most are true herbivores, and some are opportunistic omnivores. In other words, most only eat plants and nuts, but some eat bugs, snails, etc. when or if they can find them.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-04   0:50:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: FormerLurker, wudidiz (#198)

Monkeys don't eat meat, do they? Most are true herbivores, and some are opportunistic omnivores. In other words, most only eat plants and nuts, but some eat bugs, snails, etc. when or if they can find them.

Fruitarian Evolution: Science Fact or Science Fiction?

Humans have been eating meat since the dawn of the Homo genus. Humans appeared with the advent of a brand-new genus (Homo) ~2.5 million years ago. Humans evolved on the savanna-- a very different environment from the forest home of the great apes. From the very inception of our genus, humans have been eating animal foods. There is overwhelming scientific evidence to support this point. (Some of the evidence is discussed in this and the preceding section; also see Part 1 of the Paleolithic Diet vs. Vegetarianism interview series, available on this site, for additional information and citations.) The diet of some vague prehistoric frugivore that may or may not be an ancestor is irrelevant in light of the status of humans as a new genus with a different diet (i.e., eating more animal foods) and evolving in a different environmental niche.

In contrast to the extensive fossil record evidence of meat in the evolutionary diet, there is virtually no credible scientific evidence of a strict fruitarian or veg*n diet by our prehistoric human (and australopithecine) ancestors.

Much much more at the link.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-04   1:22:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: farmfriend (#210)

Oh and BTW, that link you posted does NOT dispute any of the physiological evidence that I mentioned, it simply beats down straw men.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-04   1:28:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: FormerLurker (#215)

Oh and BTW, that link you posted does NOT dispute any of the physiological evidence that I mentioned, it simply beats down straw men.

Sure it did.

Interaction of evolutionary selection pressures on the human oral system (flowchart)

Overview of gut (digestive system) morphology in primates and humans

Quantitative analysis of gut morphology in primates and humans

On the term "omnivore," and misuse of quotes

Here is the main link. A lot to read there.

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-04   1:46:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: farmfriend (#227)

In a brief glimse, it's highly apparent the author cherry picks his "sources" and does not quote much of anything, but takes an image here and there that doesn't prove a thing and writes a paragraph or two with no real proof of what he's claiming.

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-04   1:48:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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