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Title: Sarah Palin Champions Barbaric Aerial Hunting of Wolves
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGPFPBmzRrQ
Published: Sep 3, 2008
Author: defendersactionfund
Post Date: 2009-02-03 17:56:11 by FormerLurker
Keywords: Barbaric, Animal slaughter, Compassionate Conservatism, Sarah Palin
Views: 8722
Comments: 460
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#309. To: FormerLurker (#290)
You hold no moral high ground here, you're an anti-hunter. I get my "cheap fucking thrills" exposing you for the fraud you are. Go back to El-Pee, Fred Mertz.
_________________________________________________________________________ I can't, I'm not enough of a wild eyed bloodlustful fanatic wishing to kill a bunch of "Mooselem" children, and was banned for daring to speak out against those who were ecstatic over the deaths of innocent people. I'm sure you fit in quite nicely there though, so I'm sure you are a member in good standing at ElZionPost.org... And BTW slick, I'm not Fred. I am also not an anti-hunter, I am against shooting creatures from airplanes and killing animals for sport. I have no quarrel with those who depend on what they hunt for food, just with those who do it for fun.
Nobody is killing wolves for sport from an airplane, you and the Defenders of Wildlife are a bunch of goddamn, motherfucking, lying sons-of-bitches. Eat shit and die you jackass.
_________________________________________________________________________ I don't think you understand what so-called "macro evolution" means. It implies a large scale change across species rather than a small change within species. In fact, the term isn't widely used anymore, where most scientists see evolution as one whole biological process. So what I am saying is that those changes that caused evolution to take place could VERY WELL be the act of a Creator, not the random chance that you think the term demands.
No, they are doing it for political show as to excite all the "sportsmen" who ejaculate over a "good" kill while dreaming of Sarah Palin holding their dicks. you and the Defenders of Wildlife are a bunch of goddamn, motherfucking, lying sons-of-bitches. Eat shit and die you jackass Hmmm, did I hit a nerve or something?
It's called the inspired word of God. So claim the people who not only wrote it, but who decided what books would go into it. God is more than capable of preserving his inspired word should anyone try to change it. You believe Adam was an individual man. "A-dam" means HUMAN in Hebrew, where the word MAN is "eesh". So your English translation is corrupt and means something totally different than what the original text says, thus it was NOT written by God since the meaning was not preserved, according to your logic. God made all things we can know about in six 24 hour days. You neglect the fact that you have no idea what length a day is in terms of God's time, even IF the actual translation of what you think it says is grammatically correct. I do know that there is some truth in Genesis, just not the truth that you think.
If you want to LIE to the other 4um members, that's your business, but I'll continue to expose you and your anti-hunting agenda.
_________________________________________________________________________ Hey Jackass. Quit trying to undermine the foundations of the Bible. Evolution is not compatible with Gods word. Yes jackass it is GODS word. Evolution implies death and suffering and new species coming out of that. The Bible teaches there was no death before sin. So therefore evolution isn't compatible with Gods word. The Earth and all that was in in was created in 6 days. You would have Adam and Eve sitting on a pile of dead bones and listening to God say that there is no death unless they eat from the tree. So if you want to have your own little cult religion where you cut and paste from the Bible to your whim of the day and mix and smear it with the godless religion of evilution. Then that is fine do that. But don't try to tell anyone anything about the Bible. Becuase you don't get it.
He shouldn't be eating meat.
So how am I lying? My opinion that this assault by air is morally bankrupt and is totally unnecessary. The facts are, it IS taking place, although you are apparently trying to say it isn't, which makes YOU the liar.
God is outside of time. But his creation isn't. He created in like ricky said. Light and dark cycles. You aren't to bright are you?
You don't even understand the first thing about what the true Hebrew text of the Bible says, whether it be right or wrong, so screw off. Evolution is not compatible with Gods word. So says Old Friend, who apparently never understood anything beyond 1st grade science. Evolution implies death and suffering and new species coming out of that. You are such an idiot it's sort of sad in a way. Evolution is about genetic changes taking place over time causing a new species to develop from an existing species, or for a broad spectrum event to change MANY species at once. That you can't let go of the mistranslated words of men trying to relate a story that people might grasp thousands of years ago as THE DE FACTO story of the Universe is your problem, not mine. So if you want to have your own little cult religion where you cut and paste from the Bible That you refuse to consider what you THINK is true might NOT be true, and refuse to look at the powerful evidence of Jesus being an Essene (Nazarene), where his teachings were drastically different than what YOU think they are, well, that is ALSO your problem... You have been given the choice and the opportunity, you have made your decision. Good luck with that.
Fucking liar. I posted the links to the Alaska Fish & Game regulations and you wouldn't look for yourself. You don't have the moral high ground here, you are not the arbiter of what is and is not true. The truth is you want to see the eradication of tens of thousands of caribou and moose by the wolves, you only bring emotional rhetoric to the table: Facing a "serious conservation concern," members of the Alaska Board of Game voted to adopt a predator management program to help a severely declining caribou herd in Game Management Unit 9D (Figure 1). The Southern Alaska Peninsula (SAP) herd presently numbers 600 caribou, down from a historical high of 10,000 caribou in 1983. "It would be irresponsible in this case for us not to take action to help this herd," says ADF&G Division of Wildlife Conservation Director Doug Larsen. The SAP declined dramatically over the last five years (Figure 2), in spite of good nutrition and minimal hunting harvest. The problem has been calves are not living as long as they should. Adequate numbers of calves have been born each year, but survival has been poor. During the past two years, nearly all of the calves been killed. The management program approved by the Board will focus on removing wolves near the SAP calving grounds. Department staff plan to use a helicopter to locate and kill about 25 wolves from two to four wolf packs in the area. Goals of the program are to allow calves to survive to adulthood and to stop the overall herd decline. Brown bears, though abundant, do not kill as many calves as do wolves on the Alaska Peninsula. "This type of focused predator reduction is very similar to programs conducted elsewhere by state and federal agencies addressing conservation concerns," Larsen said. Although the herd ranges extensively on federal lands contained in the Izembek National Wildlife Refuge, they tend to calve on state lands, where predator control can be conducted. Surveys confirmed nearly all calves died early in life and at a much higher rate than observed in other Alaska herds (Figure 3). Field studies on the Alaska Peninsula have shown that just about all calf deaths at this stage of life are caused by large predators (Figure 4). The future of the SAP depends on whether or not calves survive during the next few years, and with high fuel prices and a lack of alternative food sources, the welfare of many local communities depend of the future of this herd. Caribou herds have disappeared before, but because the SAP herd has been identified by the Board as important for human consumption, the Department is mandated by Alaska's "intensive management" law to take steps to rescue the herd. The herd's decline was initially suspected when caribou surveys conducted in 2003-2005 indicated a drop in the number of calves reaching adulthood. Winter population counts in 2004-2005 also indicated a population decline, but not dramatically different than patterns seen in the late 1980s, when a decline was followed by herd growth. Source:wildlife.alaska.gov/index.cfm? http://adfg=control.sap">wildlife.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=control.sap
_________________________________________________________________________ Wolves and bears are very effective and efficient predators on caribou, moose, deer and other wildlife. In most of Alaska, humans also rely on the same species for food. In Alaska's Interior, predators kill more than 80 percent of the moose and caribou that die during an average year, while humans kill less than 10 percent. In most of the state, predation holds prey populations at levels far below what could be supported by the habitat in the area. Predation is an important part of the ecosystem, and all ADF&G wolf management programs, including control programs, are designed to sustain wolf populations in the future. The Alaska Board of Game approves wildlife regulations through a public participation process. When the Board determines that people need more moose and/or caribou in a particular area, and restrictions on hunting aren't enough to allow prey populations to increase, predator control programs may be needed. Wolf hunting and trapping rarely reduces wolf numbers enough to increase prey numbers or harvests. Currently, five wolf control programs are underway that comprises about 9.4% of Alaska's land area. The programs use a closely controlled permit system allowing aerial or same day airborne methods to remove wolves in designated areas. In these areas, wolf numbers will be temporarily reduced, but wolves will not be permanently eliminated from any area. Successful programs allow humans to take more moose, and healthy populations of wolves to continue to thrive in Alaska. _________________________________________________________________________ That ones going to leave a few marks !
4um Traitor LOL, you are pathetic. I guess to you, Einstein was a total idiot since he didn't use a Bible to formulate his Theory of Relativity. You have no concept of anything that requires intelligence or insight beyond the mind of a small child. I feel like I'm tossing pearls before swine. Good day.
God did it six 24 hour days. They were the length of our present days or man could not have lived on Earth then. You can't reasoned with and choose to believe what you want to believe so it does no good trying to reason with you. Maybe someday you will realize you are wrong, then again maybe you won't, but either way you are wrong about macro evolution and man-made global warming.
God is always good!
FL is about as dense as a bar of titanium.
_________________________________________________________________________ Total waste of (my) time.
4um Traitor He is very similar to Mike Ferret. He is here not to learn, but rather push an agenda. Or he is as dense as you said. :=)
God is always good!
Hey dick breath, I know they are making excuses for themselves, it doesn't mean those excuses are valid or beyond reproach. Their science has been called into question more than once by other groups of scientists, and as far as I can tell they have made faulty assumptions and misleading statements. You took issue with the fact that I reported the aerial targetting of wolves, at first apparently saying that it was NOT going on. Perhaps I misunderstood you, but that is the impression I get. Regardless, it's QUITE apparent you are a firm supporter of killing animals for sport. Fuck you.
So Ricky, have you burned any crosses on your neighbor's lawns lately?
Actually, I hunt coyotes for very specific reasons: the USFS technicians tell me to tear them up, there's too many in the areas I hunt and they commit predation on deer fawn and turkey poults. I alluded to that in post #161. But I knew I could draw you out into the open when I just let on that it was all about drawing blood. You're not to bright, boy. Game. Set. Match. Motherfucker.
_________________________________________________________________________ I've wasted enough time here myself trying to get retards such as yourself to understand anything beyond Sesame Street. So ok, you side with those who wish to kill animals for pure enjoyment, and side against those who wish to speak out against the cruelty of such practices. You care not about the suffering of other creatures, in fact, you condone it. You are a self-righteous hypocrite, a jackass, and a fool.
You never answered why Jesus sinned when he ate fish.
As much as you think you might have "won" something here, it's apparent that YOU are not too bright as you've presented yourself to be a bloodthirsty asshole who gets his kicks killing God's creatures, not for food, but for sheer enjoyment. You are not as slick as you think you are, you little twit.
He didn't, so he didn't sin.
Prove it.
Oh and BTW, boy, you apparently don't know how to spell the word "too", unless you MEANT to say "to bright" in trying to say I was not going to a place called bright. Regardless, you're certainly a dim bulb even in a dimly lit room.
As soon as you prove macro evolution I will.
God is always good!
He didn't, so he didn't sin. Jesus ate fish with his disciples and like 5000 people. He also gave fish to people to consume. If eating meat is a sin then why would Jesus give his people something that would be a sin for them to consume?
well, interesting. have you ever noticed that on every issue there's differing opinions among the experts?
Prove it. Give me the Biblical quote if you'd like.
I have only said that God could very well be in control of what changes occur through evolution. That I am not saying that God doesn't exist must piss you off, eh? BTW, are you trying to say that ALL the species and types of creatures that inhabit the Earth today did so since the beginning of time here on Earth? Prove to me that you know how long a day is in the eyes of God.
A Real Hunter does not kill for sport, but because he/she uses his kill for food.. Also, you remind me of a "hunter" I know, that makes a high 6 figure income, but lives in a 3 room apartment with his Stuffed Kills.. and once told me, that he knows that where he lives, is in not the best part of town, but loves to scare the fck out of those who live around him..
No, I don't.. but there is a huge difference between "mercy" killings and Sport Hunting.. My Great Uncle Jim, in his role of Game Warden, had to set up a program to reduce the % of Deer on many PP&L owned lands.. he did it in a proper and moral manner, and to this day.. I am proud of his actions..
Wait a sec here.. you stated, you set out to decieve another member here, with what you were posting and you want to talk about having "moral" ground..
BULLSHIT! I personally know of someone who has, and posted about this person, back up on this thread..
The programs use a closely controlled permit system allowing aerial or same day airborne methods to remove wolves in designated areas- X's posted article.. So which is it? Because I see airplane/aerial as one and the same..
Oh and BTW, boy, you apparently don't know how to spell the word "too", unless you MEANT to say "to bright" in trying to say I was not going to a place called bright. I'll give X-15 benefit of doubt, but this thread did remind me of getting hollered at at work for trying to bright the place up too much.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
I'm gonna make any wolves on my property wear little snow plows. Where can I hire some PETA volunteers?
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#310. To: X-15 (#309)
Go back to El-Pee,
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#311. To: FormerLurker (#310)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#312. To: RickyJ (#307)
Macro evolution depends on random chance for life to begin and evolve.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#313. To: X-15 (#311)
Nobody is killing wolves for sport from an airplane
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#314. To: RickyJ (#308)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#315. To: FormerLurker (#313)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#316. To: FormerLurker (#312)
So what I am saying is that those changes that caused evolution to take place could VERY WELL be the act of a Creator, not the random chance that you think the term demands.
#317. To: X-15 (#315)
#318. To: X-15 (#315)
If you want to LIE to the other 4um members
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#319. To: FormerLurker (#314)
You neglect the fact that you have no idea what length a day is in terms of God's time,
#320. To: Old Friend (#316)
Hey Jackass. Quit trying to undermine the foundations of the Bible
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#321. To: FormerLurker (#318)
(Edited)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#322. To: FormerLurker (#318)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#323. To: X-15 (#321)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#324. To: Old Friend (#319)
You aren't to bright are you?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#325. To: FormerLurker (#314)
You neglect the fact that you have no idea what length a day is in terms of God's time, even IF the actual translation of what you think it says is grammatically correct.
#326. To: Rotara (#323)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#327. To: X-15 (#326)
FL is about as dense as a bar of titanium.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#328. To: X-15 (#326)
FL is about as dense as a bar of titanium.
#329. To: X-15 (#321)
Fucking liar. I posted the links to the Alaska Fish & Game regulations and you wouldn't look for yourself.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#330. To: RickyJ (#328)
He is here not to learn, but rather push an agenda. Or he is as dense as you said. :=)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#331. To: FormerLurker (#329)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#332. To: Rotara (#327)
Total waste of (my) time.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#333. To: FormerLurker (#332)
#334. To: X-15 (#331)
But I knew I could draw you out into the open when I just let on that it was all about drawing blood. You're not to bright, boy.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#335. To: Old Friend (#333)
You never answered why Jesus sinned when he ate fish.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#336. To: RickyJ (#325)
They were the length of our present days or man could not have lived on Earth then.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#337. To: X-15 (#331)
You're not to bright, boy.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#338. To: FormerLurker (#336)
Prove it.
#339. To: FormerLurker (#335)
You never answered why Jesus sinned when he ate fish.
#340. To: X-15 (#321)
#341. To: Old Friend (#339)
Jesus ate fish with his disciples and like 5000 people.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#342. To: RickyJ (#338)
As soon as you prove macro evolution I will.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#343. To: X-15 (#277)
#344. To: RickyJ (#280)
(Edited)
You stand against mercy killings of animals so they won't starve to death.
#345. To: X-15, FormerLurker (#309)
You hold no moral high ground here, you're an anti-hunter. I get my "cheap fucking thrills" exposing you for the fraud you are. Go back to El-Pee, Fred Mertz.
#346. To: X-15, FormerLurker (#311)
Nobody is killing wolves for sport from an airplane, you and the Defenders of Wildlife are a bunch of goddamn, motherfucking, lying sons-of-bitches. Eat shit and die you jackass.
#347. To: X-15, FormerLurker (#322)
(Edited)
Nobody is killing wolves for sport from an airplane, - X
#348. To: FormerLurker, X-15 (#337)
X-15: You're not to bright, boy.
#349. To: Refinersfire (#347)
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