I was raised in the Alaskan "bush." This is an old issue.
If wolves are a factual problem to mankind, who cares as to how they are killed. That's not to sanction aircraft in place of a rifle or a trap, relative to "ordinary" hunting and trapping. For one thing, the aircraft accident rate would go through the already sky-high roof, for 'bush' accidents. To do such hunting requires a slow airspeed -add sharp maneuvering - putting an aircraft on top of a stall-spin scenario at too low an altitude, for successful recovery.
Often, herds of thousands of caribou manage to slip into the bush, undetected, for six months, or more. So to blame wolves for over-kill of the herds is often poorly justified. In reality, wolves can kill caribou like delta-force on a rampage, but nature has her magical way of reliably balancing the wildlife populations.
In the background, the State Fish & Game has historically had near gestapo powers to preclude even the 'ordinary' hunting of any wildlife, add fishing. Arial wolfe hunting was once legal, but has historically been one of the worst offences one can commit.
Sarah may be pissing atop a powerful air vent. (Even with her Chutzpah, she can't piss into the wind.)
Often, herds of thousands of caribou manage to slip into the bush, undetected, for six months, or more. So to blame wolves for over-kill of the herds is often poorly justified. In reality, wolves can kill caribou like delta-force on a rampage, but nature has her magical way of reliably balancing the wildlife populations.
Exactly. Nature has done quite well on her own for millions of years, I don't think she needs nor wants Man's help.
Go read your Bible. Add up all the begats and begats. Go back to the original creation and you have your answer. I haven't counted it up but I know its not millions.
Besides if it was millions of years old where are all the bodies?
Which version, the Hebrew or the English? I can't seem to find where in Genesis the exact year was given of Creation, can you find it?
It doesn't matter. The dates are the same. Show me a contradiction in dates if your not just blabbering.
Or just use the good old King James version. God promised his word would be translated into all tongues. Have faith in your creator. He is not a weakling like some seem to think.
You said that earlier. You sound like a broken record player. Anyway Adam is the name of a man. That being so someone probably took his name and used it as the name for mankind. Not that complicated. I'm surprised you didn't figure it out. On second thought no i'm not.
I just defined it. It was the date of creation 0 at creation
Ok, then I say the Earth formed billions of years ago, and life did not all of sudden pop up, it took another billion years or so for sentient creatures to walk the Earth.
In fact, what about all the other worlds being created as we speak? They aren't forming in a day, they are still being formed from gasses. Why doesn't the Bible speak about them, and why THEY aren't forming in a day?
In fact, are you sure you know how long a day is in the eyes of the Creator?
Ok, then I say the Earth formed billions of years ago, and life did not all of sudden pop up, it took another billion years or so for sentient creatures to walk the Earth.
Do you REALLY believe that?
True macro evolution belief is only for die-hard believers who have gone over the edge of reality into the abyss of insanity.
True macro evolution belief is only for die-hard believers who have gone over the edge of reality into the abyss of insanity.
Do you think the Earth is the center of the Universe? Apparently you do, as you believe that all that exists revolves around you and your world.
How small can you think? Creation is an ongoing process, and we can see billions of stars in this galaxy alone, each of which is a sun (in case you didn't know what a star was).
Each of those stars (or suns) may well have their own planetary system, and at least a few of those planets amongst those distant solar systems could have intelligent life on them.
Have you never imagined anything other than what you've been told, or beyond what you were taught to think? If it's not dictated to you by a preacher, must it be a lie or impossible?
You are apparently the sort of person who clings to junk science and superstition, while at the same time throwing stones at those who speak of true science. Were you at the bottom of your class in grade school? Did you ever finish high school?
You are irrational and akin to those who believed the world was supported by elephants traveling around in circles.
You really believe this single little chunk of matter is the center of the Universe.
Before I had access to the Internet I thought people such as you existed in the Middle Ages, but not in the 20th century (and of course the 21st century nowadays). I thought only retards and jungle dwellers were as uneducated and totally clueless on such things.
I've seen many things since I first logged onto the net, but that sort of ignorance still shocks me to this day.
You really believe this single little chunk of matter is the center of the Universe.
That's not what I was commenting on and you know it. You said "creation is an ongoing process", that is what I find so unbelievable. What is it that you think has been created lately without man doing it? Even then man is only using the resources already in existence, no new matter is being created by man. To believe in macro evolution one must believe that in enough time that the computers of today, which are much less complex than humans, could come into existence without anyone ever making them and programs for them that can do meaningful things such as edit an image could happen by pure chance without anyone actually making them. Sorry, but that kind of faith is WAY beyond my level of faith in anything, including God.
To believe in macro evolution one must believe that in enough time that the computers of today, which are much less complex than humans, could come into existence without anyone ever making them and programs for them that can do meaningful things such as edit an image could happen by pure chance without anyone actually making them.
BTW, I never said that God did not create all that exists, I simply said it did not happen the way ancient desert dwellers described it.
Can't you see that Nature IS the process of Creation? Can't you understand that evolution is but a tiny piece of that Creation, and that Creation itself goes well beyond that?
Can't you understand that evolution is but a tiny piece of that Creation, and that Creation itself goes well beyond that?
Let's put it this way. I would not believe in God before I would buy the story of macro evolution. If believing in God required believing in macro evolution then I would be an atheist.
If believing in God required believing in macro evolution then I would be an atheist.
Oh, and why is that?
Macro evolution does not need a God to occur. So why believe in a God when there would be no reason to do so?
My faith in God is not irrational, and is minuscule compared to the faith people who believe in macro evolution have to have in order to believe it. Belief in macro evolution is irrational.
Macro evolution does not need a God to occur. So why believe in a God when there would be no reason to do so?
Wrong. The very fact that DNA is a blueprint for life indicates that an intelligence beyond our understanding created not only the DNA, but the concept of DNA and the mechanisms for it to behave as it does.
That's nothing compared to the nature of matter, energy, time, and space. For it all to behave as it does, and for life to exist, there has to something beyond dumb luck.
OK, if you would have told me you were a troll at the start I could have saved my typing on you. You are taking my words out of context and then implying something I am in no way saying.
OK, if you would have told me you were a troll at the start I could have saved my typing on you. You are taking my words out of context and then implying something I am in no way saying.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2009-02-04 2:06:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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You are taking my words out of context and then implying something I am in no way saying.
Macro evolution does not need a God to occur. So why believe in a God when there would be no reason to do so?
Wrong. The very fact that DNA is a blueprint for life indicates that an intelligence beyond our understanding created not only the DNA, but the concept of DNA and the mechanisms for it to behave as it does.
That's nothing compared to the nature of matter, energy, time, and space. For it all to behave as it does, and for life to exist, there has to something beyond dumb luck.
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I said macro evolution does not need a God to occur. And I am correct. But macro evolution is only a fairy tale that has no evidence to support it whatsoever. If macro evolution were proven true then God would be a liar saying he created all things in six days. If God is a liar, then what difference does it make if he exists or not?
I said my faith in God is not irrational, and it isn't. If believing in God required me to be irrational to do so then I couldn't do it. But your faith in macro evolution and man made global warming is irrational.
If macro evolution were proven true then God would be a liar saying he created all things in six days.
God didn't say that, MEN did. That you think God sat down and wrote a book illustrates how childish you are.
It's called the inspired word of God. You can choose to believe men made it up, but I don't believe that at all. For me it is the inspired word of God written down by men. God is more than capable of preserving his inspired word should anyone try to change it.
God made all things we can know about in six 24 hour days. He could have done it in a nano-second if he wanted to, but he chose to do it in six 24 hour days.
God made all things we can know about in six 24 hour days. He could have done it in a nano-second if he wanted to, but he chose to do it in six 24 hour days.
When was the last time you actually read your Bible?
A thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday. Psalms, xc, 4.
One day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Peter, iii, 8.
RickyJ, which is correct? Your analysis of six 24 hour days or these Biblical sources, the inspired word of God, that contradict your own assumptions? The Bible is filled with contradictions such as this.
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Hosea 4, 6.
For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith, virtue; and to virtue, knowledge.
But he created time and our world is governed by it. Damn your slow
Hey idiot, how many hours are there in a day on Jupiter, Mars, or other worlds? Did it take him 24 hour days there as well, or did he make those in a different number of hour days?
You are a joke. NOWHERE in the Bible does it mention what a day is in terms of God, and for you to think it does shows you don't even know what the Bible says and doesn't say.
Besides, God doesn't write books, and for men to claim they speak for God is blasphemy.
Hey idiot, how many hours are there in a day on Jupiter, Mars, or other worlds? Did it take him 24 hour days there as well, or did he make those in a different number of hour days?
I don't know why I bother with you sometimes. You need to go back to gradeschool.
God spoke to the people of this planet. Day and night cycles on this planet. 24 hours. Are you stupid or something. Why do you ask such stupid questions?
Tell me what came first the fuck or the child. How to people get here without a fuck happening first? There wasn't even any sperm unless there was a man first. Nowhere to stick it unless there was a woman. A real problem for your evil cult religion that they can't answer. I know they think we came from mud and monkeys. Keep tickling your ear with what you want to hear.
So since it isn't mentioned in the Bible, God couldn't have created the other planets in the solar system, right?
Tell me what came first the fuck or the child.
Well gee whiz dude, I guess nobody ever taught you about the "birds and the bees", eh?
What are you, 8 years old? I'll fill you in on a little secret. It wasn't the child...
A real problem for your evil cult religion that they can't answer. I know they think we came from mud and monkeys.
That you believe in magical thinking is quite obvious. Poof, here's the Earth. Poof, all of a sudden it's teaming with life, and poof, here's a guy called Adam who is the one who banged Eve and made us all, without ever wondering how we could all get here without a large amount of incest going on.
You don't even acknowledge that Adam as originally written means HUMANS, and was NOT a single man as your magical fairytale insists.
You also are ignorant of most 20th century science, and are more than likely ignorant of earlier developments, such as Newtonian physics, astronomy, and any sort of math past elementary arithmetic.
Thankfully, there are more intelligent people on this planet than you.
Well gee whiz dude, I guess nobody ever taught you about the "birds and the bees", eh?
Then quit saying we evolved. It is insulting to people with working brains.
It is a huge problem for your gutter religion of ignoring Christ and worshiping the creatures and thinking they came from the spontaneous combustion of mud.
So if evolution is true tell me how people got here before fucking was possible. Come on your cult is depending on you.
Then quit saying we evolved. It is insulting to people with working brains.
For you to believe in fairytales shows where YOUR brain is at. That you can't understand things that normal adults can indicates that you are developmentally challenged.
Evolution covers the entire chain of events from the first microbes to the first fish in the sea, to the first amphibious creatures, to birds, and finally mammals. That we weren't there to see exactly what happened over billions of years means we can't know exactly how it all happened, but it did happen nonetheless.
That you rely on the words of men living in the desert several thousands of years ago as your ultimate truth and answer to how it all happened shows how stupid you truly are. If all of what they say happened did in fact happen, then we'd be seeing such things today and there would be no doubt as to it's accuracy.
The fact is, the very people who have maintained the scriptures over the thousands of years readily acknowledge that much of what is in the Torah (Old Testament) are simply stories meant to teach a spiritual lesson, and are not necessarily accurate descriptions of what truly happened at the dawn of time.
Add to that thought. The words of men are NOT the words of God. For you to consider those men spokesmen for God Himself shows how little you think of God, and how small your mind is. You apparently are so gullible you'd believe anyone who claims to be speaking for God, if what they were saying agreed with what your notion of God is.
It is a huge problem for your gutter religion of ignoring Christ
It is YOU who ignores the teachings of Jesus and spits on him by using his name in your homicidal arguments.
worshiping the creatures and thinking they came from the spontaneous combustion of mud.
Nobody is talking about WORSHIPPING animals, but YOU are saying they materialized out of thin air. If anything, you haven't read the part of the Bible where it is written that Man comes from dust.
"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
You obviously don't even know what is written in that Bible you constantly thump on.
So if evolution is true tell me how people got here before fucking was possible. Come on your cult is depending on you.
Did you know that bacteria don't fuck? Tell me why they don't fuck, c'mon, your religion depends upon you...
In all seriousness, animals have fucked since there were animals, and even fish fuck.
That's the part of the Bible you can't seem to understand, in that God created NOT just humans, but ALL living things as male and female.
Even microbobes have facets of both, along with some plants, although many species of plants DO have both male and female.
And you see, science isn't a religion. Religion requires blind faith and unquestioning obedience to that doctrine. Science is the pursuit of knowledge, and is ever changing as new discoveries are made.
For people such as you, that is unacceptable. You NEED to be told why you are here, how everything was made, and have it told to you in a way a child would be able to understand. Complexity is not acceptable, and anything that conflicts with your fairytale version of life and Creation is a lie.
Evolution covers the entire chain of events from the first microbes to the first fish in the sea, to the first amphibious creatures,
It is a made up fairy tale where frogs turn into people. Talk about a dumb. Anyway it doesn't cover shit. They can't demonstrate it in the lab. Junk science.
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is telling the National Prayer Breakfast that even though faith too often has been used "as a tool to divide us from one another," there is no religion in the world that is based on hatred.
Obama, in prepared remarks, said, "There is no God who condones taking the life of an innocent human being."
Obama is also telling the gathering that the White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships that he is announcing Thursday won't favor any religious group, or favor religious groups over secular groups.
He says it will help organizations that want to "work on behalf of our communities," without "blurring the line" between church and state.