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Title: Sarah Palin Champions Barbaric Aerial Hunting of Wolves
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGPFPBmzRrQ
Published: Sep 3, 2008
Author: defendersactionfund
Post Date: 2009-02-03 17:56:11 by FormerLurker
Keywords: Barbaric, Animal slaughter, Compassionate Conservatism, Sarah Palin
Views: 8495
Comments: 460


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#420. To: christine (#417)

I think 21st century religions ARE based on hate, where they may not have been so originally, but have EVOLVED into that over time...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   11:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#421. To: christine (#417)

"There is no God who condones taking the life of an innocent human being."

None of us is innocent except babies and children. At least they are sinless for a time.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   11:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#422. To: Old Friend (#408)

First it is not blind faith. It is based on the word.

Prove to me that the Bible is the word of God. You can't, nor can anyone else.

If science is the purist of knowledge? Then why is it always changing? Science is the law of gravity.

Because we are limited in our knowledge, yet we can define and measure what we can detect, and theorize about what we observe.

Tell me, what IS gravity? Do you know? I don't mean tell me what it does, I mean, what is it...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   11:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#423. To: Old Friend (#421)

None of us is innocent except babies and children.

So that's your justification for murder then is it?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   11:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#424. To: FormerLurker (#422)

Because we are limited in our knowledge, yet we can define and measure what we can detect, and theorize about what we observe.

Ok theorize about what you observe. Hmm. All life reproduces after like kind. Simple observation. No one ever saw anything evolve. When I plant an apple tree I have never got some strange new tree.

There is no problem with science. There is a problem with cultists like you who think they know what science is. No you just want to reject Gods word probably because there is some kind of sin in your life you don't want to give up. So you cling to that faith in man and his made up evilution religion.

If you want to talk about this anymore make a new thread. This thread is about wolves.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   11:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#425. To: FormerLurker (#423)

None of us is innocent except babies and children.

So that's your justification for murder then is it?

Who said anything about murder. It is the basis for gods judgement on us.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   11:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#426. To: FormerLurker (#422)

Tell me, what IS gravity? Do you know?

Its what makes your girlfriends tits sag.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   11:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#427. To: Old Friend (#424)

All life reproduces after like kind. Simple observation. No one ever saw anything evolve. When I plant an apple tree I have never got some strange new tree.

I guess you never looked into how dog breeders have developed new breeds of dogs. As far as trees, do you think all species of trees have always existed?

Changes leading to new species generally take MILLIONS of years to come about. However, there is much in the way of fossil evidence that does indicate there were fewer species way back millions of years ago, and there IS fossil evidence of primative men who were vastly different than Homo Sapiens, such as Neanderthal man.

Don't preach to me about God you murderous leech, you are nothing but a coward and a hypocrite, as well as an idiot and a fool. You are a poster child for religious lunacy in America, and give true Christians a bad name...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   11:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#428. To: Old Friend (#426)

Its what makes your girlfriends tits sag.

So you admit you have no clue.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   11:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#429. To: Old Friend (#425)

Who said anything about murder.

You said you wanted to hunt down humans.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   11:58:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#430. To: FormerLurker (#427)

I guess you never looked into how dog breeders have developed new breeds of dogs. As far as trees, do you think all species of trees have always existed?

They are still dogs. They are producing after like kind.

I guess in your simple little mind every new kid born is a new species since none of look exactly the same.

Get off the internet and get your coloring book and crayons back out.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   11:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#431. To: FormerLurker (#429)

Who said anything about murder.

You said you wanted to hunt down humans.

I said maybe those hunters being harrassed should start hunting the anti hunters.

I saw some of these freaks like you protesting outside KFC. With their little slogans meat is murder. Quit torturing chickens. So I turned around and got some chicken. Ate it right in front of the freaks. Saying. mmmm.. This is good. You should try some.

I noticed you never responded to the proof you said existed that Jesus said not to eat meat. Come on boy put up.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   12:02:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#432. To: Old Friend (#430)

What is gravity? C'mon Mr. Knowitall, break out the Bible and tell me what it is...

Hey, it's NOT in the Bible is it. Hmmm, maybe God didn't create it then, right?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   12:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#433. To: FormerLurker (#432)

What is gravity? C'mon Mr. Knowitall, break out the Bible and tell me what it is...

Hey, it's NOT in the Bible is it. Hmmm, maybe God didn't create it then, right?

Are you really that stupid?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   12:03:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#434. To: Old Friend (#431)

I said maybe those hunters being harrassed should start hunting the anti hunters.

You said you wanted to hunt ME as well. So you issued a death threat against me, and wish for ALL those who are against killing for pleasure to be killed.

You are a murderous raving fucking lunatic, yet you expect to be taken seriously as a man of God?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   12:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#435. To: Old Friend (#433)

Are you really that stupid?

You are. C'mon, tell me what gravity is, I'm still waiting...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   12:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#436. To: FormerLurker (#435)

Seriously make another thread to talk about this stuff. Please.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   12:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#437. To: Old Friend (#431)

I noticed you never responded to the proof you said existed that Jesus said not to eat meat. Come on boy put up.

I very well could post some info, but I doubt you'd take the time to read it. I'M still waiting for you to post some proof that scientists have said humans come from frogs.

And I don't mean your childish theories, I mean REAL proof, such as a link to a scientific paper or publication...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   12:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#438. To: Old Friend (#436)

Seriously make another thread to talk about this stuff. Please.

You claim to know a lot about science, so prove it, tell me what gravity is.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   12:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#439. To: RickyJ (#391)

You are delusional. You can't distinguish the world right in front of your eyes from make believe. You know nothing of science. What you are calling science is nothing but a retard's faith.

Einstein was a retard? The psuedo followers of Christ on this site are providing a dimal example of the faith and Christianity as a whole.

abraxas  posted on  2009-02-05   12:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#440. To: Old Friend (#385)

You can't prove millions of years. Nothing you said proved shit except that you are a religious person. Your religion is evilution. It is your religion becasue you grasped hold of it because it said no God. Well believe what you want. People are still allowed to be stupid in this country.

Your comment here Nobody with a lick of sense regarding science denies that theory of evolution is scientific.

You are one stupid person. All scientists that practice true science would admit that evolution is foolish.

You can't prove that is wasn't.......that's my point. Nothing you said proved shit except that you are a psuedo Christian who is incapable of setting an example of following the words, actions and deeds of Jesus Christ.

You don't know what my religion is. What you have is ASSumptions. BTW, the theory of evolution does not say "no God" and you would understand that had you ever read the content.

Yes, you are a fine example of stupidity. Find me one scientist who deems the theory non-scientific. Do you even understand what non-scientific means? I do not think that you do. What the hell is "true science"? Is that like a "true Christian" who behaves contrary to the teachings of Christ and sets and example of hypocricy to follow?

abraxas  posted on  2009-02-05   12:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#441. To: abraxas (#440)

Christian who is incapable of setting an example of following the words, actions and deeds of Jesus Christ.

I'll have to give you that one. I'm not perfect or even close.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   12:22:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#442. To: Old Friend (#388)

God is outside of time numbnuts. But he created time and our world is governed by it. Damn your slow

Damn you are a walking contradiction. If God is outside time, who shall deem one of His days 24 hours? What no response to the warnings of following the scribes and the prophets? What no mention of Biblical contradictions?

I thought you said that a day was 24 hours, Old Friend. Peter contradicts your statement within the "infallible" Bible. Don't you even read the Bible you profess to be the science of life on Earth? Obviously not.

abraxas  posted on  2009-02-05   12:25:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#443. To: abraxas (#439)

Einstein was a retard?

If he believed in macro evolution he was.

His wife had to do all his math for him. Poor guy didn't know how to do it.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-02-05   12:37:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#444. To: abraxas (#442)

If God is outside time, who shall deem one of His days 24 hours?

We are subject to time not God. Not that complicated.

Peter contradicts your statement within the "infallible" Bible.

Please show me what you believe to be a contradiction. Maybe I can clear it up for you or maybe not.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   12:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#445. To: Old Friend (#444)

We are subject to time not God. Not that complicated.

Huh? Did you mean to say that time is more powerful than God, or was that a typo?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   12:55:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#446. To: RickyJ (#443)

If he believed in macro evolution he was.

Yet those who believe in magical tales are brilliant, eh?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   12:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#447. To: FormerLurker (#445)

We are subject to time not God. Not that complicated.

We are subject to time, god isn't. Not that complicated.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   12:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#448. To: Old Friend, FormerLurker (#410)

Actually, JESUS said that eating animal flesh was a sin. You are a liar. Come on quote it. You can't.

Here's what was said, which resolves dispute on this issue: One believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not, and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth....... He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks: and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. Romans, xiv, 2- 3,6.

It's not WHAT you eat, it is being thankful for whatever you eat that counts. The whole point of ritualistic killing of animals was to center the people on being grateful for what they were going to eat and humble in regards to the life that was given to sustain them.

abraxas  posted on  2009-02-05   12:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#449. To: abraxas (#448)

It's not WHAT you eat, it is being thankful for whatever you eat that counts. The whole point of ritualistic killing of animals was to center the people on being grateful for what they were going to eat and humble in regards to the life that was given to sustain them.

Now those are wise words. I can agree with you there.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   13:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#450. To: abraxas, Old Friend (#448)

Romans, xiv, 2- 3,6.

Romans was written by Paul of Tarsus (and/or his Roman masters), who never met Jesus, and whose words and teachings conflict with what the true apostles taught.

Here's some info on that...

ESSENE CHRISTIANITY VERSUS PAULIANITY


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   13:08:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#451. To: Abraxas (#450)

Former has his own custom religion. He just discovered this essence bullshit two weeks ago. He fell for it hard.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-05   13:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#452. To: Old Friend, Abraxas (#451) (Edited)

Former has his own custom religion. He just discovered this essence bullshit two weeks ago. He fell for it hard.

Uh, I've known about the Essenes (an ancient Jewish sect) for over a decade. I've read about it in detail several weeks ago, and found it quite interesting that there IS a WHOLE lot of evidence that the New Testament is a work of fiction and that the original writings of the apostles were burned.

Do you deny that Jesus of Nazarath was a Nazarene (Essene)?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   13:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#453. To: Old Friend (#444)

If God is outside time, who shall deem one of His days 24 hours?

We are subject to time not God. Not that complicated.

Peter contradicts your statement within the "infallible" Bible.

Please show me what you believe to be a contradiction. Maybe I can clear it up for you or maybe not.

Old Friend, I have already posted TWO scriptures that indicate one day is a thousand years for God. I still find this subjective as the scribes wrote it down. A third reference to a day is a thousand years can be cound in N.T. Apocrypha: Barnabus, xiii, 3-4. Have you read Enoch or any of the other books omitted from the Bible by the church and mortal men?

You are subject to your own feeble mind where the constructs of linear time make life easier for mere mortals to adjust. The scribes who wrote the Bible were subject to this perception as well, hence not able to transcend any notion of time in the realm of the infinate. The contradiction is that YOU think YOU can determine, from your feeble perception of linear time, God's thoughts on the issue. I, on the other hand, believe that Einstein was much closer to the truth regarding time, singularity and infinite.

abraxas  posted on  2009-02-05   13:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#454. To: Old Friend (#436)

"Seriously make another thread to talk about this stuff. Please."

Indeed...I thought this thread was about Palin huntin' wolves from helicopters...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2009-02-05   13:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#455. To: abraxas (#453)

I, on the other hand, believe that Einstein was much closer to the truth regarding time, singularity and infinite.

And threw a serious curve ball with ring singularities...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-05   13:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#456. To: All (#0)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-02-05   13:27:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#457. To: Jethro Tull, Mudboy Slim (#456)

Please forgive me for my participation on the diversion from the initial thread content. The libertarian in me has to side on Alaska's state rights to determine adequate land and wildlife management. : )

abraxas  posted on  2009-02-05   13:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#458. To: abraxas (#457)

Hell, I might be the league leader in thread diversion :P

Peace.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-02-05   13:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#459. To: abraxas (#457)

I agree with the libertarian in you...regards.

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2009-02-05   13:44:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#460. To: FormerLurker (#383)

The numbers you mention in your reports from the State of Alaska make no sense, where it is claimed that each wolf is responsible for the loss of 12 moose or 24 caribou per year. That's saying that each wolf devours an entire moose each month, or two caribou each month. Perhaps a full grown lion would eat that much, but I find the estimate a bit high for a wolf...

Read it again: they don't eat them all, they KILL them because they can. That's right, they're natural born killers. That's the nature of wolves you will deny to your dying day because it's just another monkey wrench in your flawed logic.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-02-05   20:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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