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Title: Sarah Palin Champions Barbaric Aerial Hunting of Wolves
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGPFPBmzRrQ
Published: Sep 3, 2008
Author: defendersactionfund
Post Date: 2009-02-03 17:56:11 by FormerLurker
Keywords: Barbaric, Animal slaughter, Compassionate Conservatism, Sarah Palin
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Comments: 460
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#254. To: abraxas (#209)
Of course they were. To think otherwise is stupid and ignorant.
But you don't understand them. You just accept them because some guy in a white jacket with a lable of "scientist" said so. That makes you a willing ignorant follower. What part of unverifiable don't you understand. It is not science if it cannot be verified. Sheesh you think yourself smart but you are making a fool of yourself.
Yes I am consistent. Death penalty for murdereres. No murderers get off because they happen to kill their kid. I guess child abuse should be ok too, as long as it is your own kid
I bet you think people are laughing with you, but they're not. They're laughing at you Old Friend. Post some scientific evidence that states scientists know less than you, ok?
You lunatic, I didn't say they should get off, I said they shouldn't be given the death penalty. Life in prison for a person that killed their kid might give them time to think about what they did wrong...
Global warming. Evilution. Case closed.
So you support free TV food and a bed for baby killers?
Your inquiries into people's actual identities has always left me a bit leary of you. I find it a bit odd that you hinted that you knew who Byteshredder was earlier this evening, then turned around and said you didn't know who he was, and that you don't poke around finding out other people's identities, where I know that's a huge lie. You need to request for your attending physician to up the dosage. Series
4um Traitor I really could't care less if you trust me or not. Couldn't care less if you think I'm a shill. As for people supporting me, I don't base my opinions on whether they will be popular or not and I have been known to rush to the defense of those I completely disagree with simply because I consider them a friend. I regret having ever called you a friend. I felt stabbed in the back when you turned on me without warning. So when you start saying I'm untrustworthy or a shill, I just assume you are projecting. FL has earned the second spot on my bozo filter (The obnoxious atheist drone 'nobody' has #1 permanently locked up). The sheer volume of garbage put forth is justification enough; these goofy attacks are further justification.
4um Traitor Oh really?.. A Local Garage Owner, has 5 kills so far.. NONE brought back with him.. the fckin asshat..
What part of unverifiable don't you understand. It is not science if it cannot be verified. Sheesh you think yourself smart but you are making a fool of yourself. No, dear, it is you who doesn't understand. Let me help you with some basic definitions for science: 1. originally, knowledge. 2. systemized knowledge derived from observation, study and experimentation. 3. a branch of knowledge, especially one concerned with ESTABLISHING AND SYSTEMIZING facts, principles, and methods 4. The systemized knowledge of nature SCIENTIFIC: 1. of or dealing with science. 2. Used in or for natural science. 3. based on, or using, the principles and methods of science; systematic and exact. 4. done according to methods gained by training and experience. 5. skill, method, system. Note that "unverifiable" is nowhere included in basic definitions. To begin with a hypothesis and then create a theory one must begin with what is NOT verified and then provide the body of evidence. For instance, Newton's theory of gravity was not initially VERIFIABLE but later attained this status and, hence, became a LAW. Science is an ever growing BODY OF KNOWLEDGE much of which is not proven VERIFIABLE.......at least not yet. You do not understand science at even the most elementary level. However, you do claim to be some sort of expert on the Bible. Did you miss this passage? Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Mathew, v, 22. Or this one? A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself. Proverbs, xvii, 12.
I would in a heartbeat, as I would trust a wolf before most humans anymore..
Would you care to show us some stats to back up this claim.. As most attacks that are claimed against wolfs, have been done by either Bears or Coyotes. I know of only two on records so far, one here in the States and one that is still in dispute in Canada.
Where they killed for sport or their meat?
No. It's common knowledge that wolves had to go as white men pushed Western Civilization west across America, their presence was completely incompatible with people and livestock.
_________________________________________________________________________ Because it's legal to kill them.
_________________________________________________________________________ I stand 110% against such hunting..
I said macro evolution does not need a God to occur. And I am correct. But macro evolution is only a fairy tale that has no evidence to support it whatsoever. If macro evolution were proven true then God would be a liar saying he created all things in six days. If God is a liar, then what difference does it make if he exists or not? I said my faith in God is not irrational, and it isn't. If believing in God required me to be irrational to do so then I couldn't do it. But your faith in macro evolution and man made global warming is irrational.
God is always good!
After reading more of your posts on this thread, I know it is of no value to debate this with you.. you kill for the trill. To which I am wholeheartedly against. In my step-father's family, many were Game Wardens, and all were against the killing of any animal, that was NOT used for meat/skin.
Oh really?.. A Local Garage Owner, has 5 kills so far.. NONE brought back with him.. the fckin asshat.. If you are responding to the quote in italics above, you should send your comments to the person who posted that quote. There are lots of people who ignore the hunting regulations. You must salvage the hide and have it sealed within 30 days of the kill in most game management units.
I am sorry, I was replying to you and must have not copied all of my post/your reply.. again, sorry about that..
Me too; and I actually do it.
You and FormerLurker need to get over yourselves and your feigned sense of outrage over the FUCKING WOLVES. Remember, $12.40 buys a non-resident wolf license in Alberta, Canada; they aren't ate up with the "Save the WOLF!!" bullshit.
_________________________________________________________________________ You are an anti-hunter who keeps trying to cloak himself in "my family this..." and "responsible hunting only if..." bullshit. Fuck you and fuck FormerLurker, I know what kind of cock-sucking bastards you two really are, you want to ban ALL hunting and you start with the wolves/polar bears/etc. in increments. FUCK YOU!!
_________________________________________________________________________ I miss prairie dog fishing.
4um Traitor The hunting regulations are for the benefit of whom exactly? Do you really think there are so many hunters that they could if they wanted to make wolves extinct? Are wolves in any way whatsoever in any danger of going extinct? If not then the regulations are just a way for the state to get more money out of people through fines. Do you like the idea of someone telling you that you cannot do something on your own property that is hurting no one else? And how are the enforcement of these regulations suppose to occur? Cameras set everywhere to watch your every move, or are they just going to rely on people turning their neighbors in?
God is always good!
I stand 110% against such hunting.. You stand against mercy killings of animals so they won't starve to death. Well, I stand 100% against such cruel behavior to animals. No animal should have to starve to death when a bullet can end their suffering instantly. Animals are not people and do not have the same protection as humans do to life. We are commanded by God to kill and eat animals. They are for us, not us for them.
God is always good!
The hunting regulations are for the benefit of whom exactly? The wildlife of Alaska and the people of Alaska who depend on a robust wildlife population. Do you really think there are so many hunters that they could if they wanted to make wolves extinct? NO. Are wolves in any way whatsoever in any danger of going extinct? No. If not then the regulations are just a way for the state to get more money out of people through fines. Do you like the idea of someone telling you that you cannot do something on your own property that is hurting no one else? I do not hunt wolves on my own property. And how are the enforcement of these regulations suppose to occur? In the usual manner. People are reported breaking the law, people are confronted by enforcers for breaking the law. Cameras set everywhere to watch your every move, or are they just going to rely on people turning their neighbors in? Haven't run into a single camera out in the bush and my neighbors have never accused anyone falsely.
There is nothing scientific about the theory of Evolution. Its all made up. Someone imagined it. On the other hand if the Bible is true you would expect to find some archelogical evidence pertaining to certain events found in the Bible. Take the flood for example. If that is true as the Bible says it is. Then you would expect to see some evidence of that event since it was supposed to be global. You would expect to find billions of dead things buried in mud laid down by water all over the earth. That is what you find in the fossil record. The fossil record supports the creation model. In the fossil record there are no intermediary species as would be required for evolution to be true. As far as their dating method. It is flawed circular reasoning, but you know that. The Bible is true the flood happened. Real scientists usually know this.
I'm not even going to post the article...one of hundreds I found castigating the people who are slaughtering for the love of the kill. People can do the research on their own. Yeah I'm an old John Denver lover and animal/tree hugger from way back. The case and reasons against this slaughter have been made quite well by scientists, native american activists and many others, so I won't get involved in the debate or unwarranted personal attacks. Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON
We've come a long way baby !
4um Traitor Oh boo fucking hoo, you don't like to hear the truth so you block your ears. You're a typical example of what is wrong with people today, and the sort of person responsible for the mess this country is in. Hear no evil, see no evil, but you certainly have no problem SPEAKING evil on the other hand... I didn't like you when I first saw you here, but thought you were a better person than I had originally thought so I decided to consider you an ally over time. My first impression was spot on.
Thanks for the post Indie. I appreciate your views on this.
No use trying to speak logically to Old Friend, if his TV evangelist (Hagee perhaps?) didn't tell him, then it must be a lie...
No you are not. God could very well work through any process God chooses, and just because YOU think he can't doesn't make it so. If macro evolution were proven true then God would be a liar saying he created all things in six days. God didn't say that, MEN did. That you think God sat down and wrote a book illustrates how childish you are.
What part of unverifiable don't you understand. It is not science if it cannot be verified. Sheesh you think yourself smart but you are making a fool of yourself. You are correct.
YOU need to get over your belief that YOU have the right to kill anything that moves, just because it gives you a cheap fucking thrill.
They can easily go extinct. How many wild Buffalo are left in the US these days???
you articulated my feelings on this too. i appreciate the links.
Wrong Ricky. You are feeling JUSTIFIED in killing animals by MEN who TRANSLATED ancient writings into what they FELT like writing, to give them JUSTIFICATION for what they had already decided they were going to do... In Hebrew, the English phrase "dominion over animals" means "guardianship, or stewardship" over them, and does not give a green light to exploitation and slaughter. You are the product of TV evangelism, and a very fine example of such.
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#255. To: abraxas (#209)
Yes, there are scientific methods to date objects, artifacts, stars, galaxies.
#256. To: FormerLurker (#126)
Life penalty. As far as the death penalty for moms, is that what you support?
#257. To: Old Friend (#255)
Sheesh you think yourself smart but you are making a fool of yourself.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#258. To: Old Friend (#256)
No murderers get off because they happen to kill their kid. I guess child abuse should be ok too, as long as it is your own kid
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#259. To: FormerLurker (#257)
#260. To: FormerLurker (#258)
#261. To: FormerLurker, farmfriend (#247)
In fact farmfriend, I find your posting style to be oddly familiar. We were just talking about Marguerite earlier today, and now that I think of it, you appear to have the same sort of posting style, albeit you would obviously need to toss a huge amount of camouflage over yourself in order to be seen as a "good guy" here...
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#262. To: farmfriend (#248)
(Edited)
I used to think you were a friend so I must have sided with you at some point. Now I pretty much ignore you actually. Rarely do I ever post to you and today I was quite civil to you. We used to agree quite often before you started calling me a shill and suggesting I was untrustworthy, twisting what I say and accusing me of all kinds of crap like posting under another name etc. As for your suggestion that I oppose you just to oppose you, you are just not that important.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#263. To: eskimo (#74)
That's the problem here.. this is being done mostly by Out of Stater's, that spend big money, to have the joy of a kill. Most don't even eat the meat nor keep their kill. The last report I got on this issue, was most of the kills, end up dog food..
#264. To: Old Friend (#255)
But you don't understand them. You just accept them because some guy in a white jacket with a lable of "scientist" said so. That makes you a willing ignorant follower.
#265. To: eskimo, FormerLurker (#115)
Perhaps you could cure your seemingly irrational hysteria concerning this matter by spearheading a project to repopulate wolves in your area. They roamed most of north America only a few hundred years ago.
#266. To: X-15 (#138)
I hunt and kill coyotes: canis lupis vs. canis latrans, one's bigger and one's smaller. There's a reason the wolves were exterminated from the lower 48 states: they're KILLERS of livestock and people.
#267. To: X-15 (#150)
Go on, click THIS, I double-dog dare you:
#268. To: Refinersfire (#266)
Would you care to show us some stats to back up this claim.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#269. To: Refinersfire (#267)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#270. To: X-15 (#234)
In the past five years, the state has relied on private pilots and gunners to kill wolves in different parts of the state where moose or caribou populations are too low to meet the needs and demands of subsistence and sport hunters. More than 800 wolves have been killed in the past five years as a result of the program.
#271. To: FormerLurker (#252)
#272. To: X-15 (#269)
Because it's legal to kill them.
#273. To: Refinersfire (#263)
That's the problem here.. this is being done mostly by Out of Stater's, that spend big money, to have the joy of a kill. Most don't even eat the meat nor keep their kill. The last report I got on this issue, was most of the kills, end up dog food..
#274. To: eskimo (#273)
#275. To: Refinersfire (#265)
I would in a heartbeat, as I would trust a wolf before most humans anymore..
#276. To: Refinersfire, FormerLurker (#270)
I stand 110% against such hunting..
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#277. To: Refinersfire, FormerLurker (#272)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#278. To: X-15 (#277)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#279. To: eskimo (#273)
There are lots of people who ignore the hunting regulations. You must salvage the hide and have it sealed within 30 days of the kill in most game management units.
#280. To: Refinersfire (#270)
In the past five years, the state has relied on private pilots and gunners to kill wolves in different parts of the state where moose or caribou populations are too low to meet the needs and demands of subsistence and sport hunters. More than 800 wolves have been killed in the past five years as a result of the program.
#281. To: RickyJ (#279)
#282. To: abraxas (#264)
#283. To: FormerLurker (#246)
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I will, however, weigh in with my opinion.
This goes against every fiber of my moral beliefs (not desert religions..they all love the excuse to needlessly kill whenever they get the chance.)
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#284. To: Old Friend (#282)
The Bible is true the flood happened. Real scientists usually know this.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#285. To: Rotara (#262)
FL has earned the second spot on my bozo filter (The obnoxious atheist drone 'nobody' has #1 permanently locked up). The sheer volume of garbage put forth is justification enough; these goofy attacks are further justification.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#286. To: IndieTX (#283)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#287. To: abraxas, Old Friend (#264)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#288. To: RickyJ (#271)
I said macro evolution does not need a God to occur. And I am correct.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#289. To: Old Friend (#255)
But you don't understand them. You just accept them because some guy in a white jacket with a lable of "scientist" said so. That makes you a willing ignorant follower.
#290. To: X-15, Refinersfire (#276)
You and FormerLurker need to get over yourselves and your feigned sense of outrage over the FUCKING WOLVES.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#291. To: RickyJ (#279)
Do you really think there are so many hunters that they could if they wanted to make wolves extinct?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#292. To: IndieTX (#283)
#293. To: RickyJ, Refinersfire (#280)
We are commanded by God to kill and eat animals
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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