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Title: Sarah Palin Champions Barbaric Aerial Hunting of Wolves
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Published: Sep 3, 2008
Author: defendersactionfund
Post Date: 2009-02-03 17:56:11 by FormerLurker
Keywords: Barbaric, Animal slaughter, Compassionate Conservatism, Sarah Palin
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#332. To: Rotara (#327)
I've wasted enough time here myself trying to get retards such as yourself to understand anything beyond Sesame Street. So ok, you side with those who wish to kill animals for pure enjoyment, and side against those who wish to speak out against the cruelty of such practices. You care not about the suffering of other creatures, in fact, you condone it. You are a self-righteous hypocrite, a jackass, and a fool.
You never answered why Jesus sinned when he ate fish.
As much as you think you might have "won" something here, it's apparent that YOU are not too bright as you've presented yourself to be a bloodthirsty asshole who gets his kicks killing God's creatures, not for food, but for sheer enjoyment. You are not as slick as you think you are, you little twit.
He didn't, so he didn't sin.
Prove it.
Oh and BTW, boy, you apparently don't know how to spell the word "too", unless you MEANT to say "to bright" in trying to say I was not going to a place called bright. Regardless, you're certainly a dim bulb even in a dimly lit room.
As soon as you prove macro evolution I will.
God is always good!
He didn't, so he didn't sin. Jesus ate fish with his disciples and like 5000 people. He also gave fish to people to consume. If eating meat is a sin then why would Jesus give his people something that would be a sin for them to consume?
well, interesting. have you ever noticed that on every issue there's differing opinions among the experts?
Prove it. Give me the Biblical quote if you'd like.
I have only said that God could very well be in control of what changes occur through evolution. That I am not saying that God doesn't exist must piss you off, eh? BTW, are you trying to say that ALL the species and types of creatures that inhabit the Earth today did so since the beginning of time here on Earth? Prove to me that you know how long a day is in the eyes of God.
A Real Hunter does not kill for sport, but because he/she uses his kill for food.. Also, you remind me of a "hunter" I know, that makes a high 6 figure income, but lives in a 3 room apartment with his Stuffed Kills.. and once told me, that he knows that where he lives, is in not the best part of town, but loves to scare the fck out of those who live around him..
No, I don't.. but there is a huge difference between "mercy" killings and Sport Hunting.. My Great Uncle Jim, in his role of Game Warden, had to set up a program to reduce the % of Deer on many PP&L owned lands.. he did it in a proper and moral manner, and to this day.. I am proud of his actions..
Wait a sec here.. you stated, you set out to decieve another member here, with what you were posting and you want to talk about having "moral" ground..
BULLSHIT! I personally know of someone who has, and posted about this person, back up on this thread..
The programs use a closely controlled permit system allowing aerial or same day airborne methods to remove wolves in designated areas- X's posted article.. So which is it? Because I see airplane/aerial as one and the same..
Oh and BTW, boy, you apparently don't know how to spell the word "too", unless you MEANT to say "to bright" in trying to say I was not going to a place called bright. I'll give X-15 benefit of doubt, but this thread did remind me of getting hollered at at work for trying to bright the place up too much.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
I'm gonna make any wolves on my property wear little snow plows. Where can I hire some PETA volunteers?
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
LOL.. EDIT: I know of one here locally, that protest all of our hunting cabins, you can have him.. but once you take him, we don't want him back! ;-)
This, apparently, came from contribution #311. Thankfully, the intellectual who authored this persuasive argument is on my s_tlist because I don't see #311 but I'm glad to get an occasional glimpse of what I'm missing. I've been too busy to visit this site for the past 10 days or so but, clearly, the level and the civility of debate here has improved much.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I don't post much at LP because of the same thing.. I love a good debate, but when every other word is of that level, oh well.. all I can say, is that it shows my age.. I'm just getting too old for it..
I heard that (the brain) size does not matter and I tend to agree. Regardless of size, one's mind is a terrible thing to (turn to) waste.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
What a waste it is to lose one's mind. How true that is.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
Hell with politics, I just want a flunky I can dress like a reindeer and send across town with packages. Oops, I've said too much.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
DAMN! you own me a new screen for my laptop with that one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But don't you have to have one first?
Dang it Dak, you had me so messed up with your last post to me, I had to edit my last post.. Dang it, dang it, DANG IT!
Chew on this: Source: Anchorage Daily News www.adn. com/news/alaska/w.../wolves/story/410461.html Aerial hunting program kills 124 wolves State wildlife officials believe they have saved more than 1,400 moose or nearly 3,000 caribou -- or some combination thereof -- with a winter program to kill wolves from aircraft, although the wolf kill remains far below what the state wanted. Pilot-gunner teams have taken 124 wolves to date, according to Bruce Bartley, spokesman for the Alaska Division of Wildlife Conservation. The goal was 455 to 670 wolves. Still, the kill, which is ongoing, is more than the 97 wolves gunners took last year. The program runs as long as conditions allow or until state biologists decide wolf-kill quotas have been met. The kill has been low this year because of a March that lacked the fresh snow and good light needed for optimum hunting conditions. The exact number of moose or caribou saved by thinning wolf populations is hard to determine. Fish and Game's ungulate survival calculations are based on an average consumption of approximately 12 moose or 24 caribou per wolf per year. A kill of 124 wolves would thus translate to 1,488 moose or 2,976 caribou or some combination thereof. But if the moose are small -- calves or yearlings -- and easy to kill, the wolves might eat more. If the hunting is difficult, the wolves might be forced to survive on less. And in some cases, wolves can supplement their main diet of moose and caribou with other prey such as Dall sheep or beavers. Meanwhile, the number of moose and caribou saved for reproductive purposes, wildlife viewing and some hunting could be much smaller if wolves killed in March or April are quickly replaced by cubs in the summer. Wolves have high reproductive rates, leading some biologists to question the effectiveness of the hunts. Studies conducted on the Kenai Peninsula by noted biologist Rolf Peterson from Michigan Technological University found that even if 40 percent of the wolves in a pack died over a winter, pack sizes could be rebuilt by the start of the next winter. Peterson found the Kenai wolves killed, on average, one moose every 4.7 days. The hunting efficiency of wolves in winter is what led state wildlife officials to support aerial wolf hunting -- or wolf control as it is commonly called -- in areas of the state where biologists believe moose and caribou populations have been depressed by predation from bears and wolves, bad winters or in some cases by humans overhunting them. The ability of wolf populations to quickly rebuild and retain high rates of predation has been one of the arguments opponents of the hunts have used to criticize aerial gunning as inefficient and unnecessary. However, most opposition to the hunts is built around an affection for wolves by proponents. Long a subject of fear and loathing in North America, wolves were exterminated in most of the Lower 48 in the last century. They hung on only in the far north forests of Minnesota until American attitudes changed, and a program was begun to restore the animals to their traditional range. Wolves have since spread from Minnesota into nearby Midwestern states, and a reintroduction program initiated in Yellowstone National Park has helped wolves to re-establish old hunting grounds in Wyoming, Montana and Colorado. Meanwhile, the animals have become a wildlife-viewing icon for nature lovers everywhere. CONTROVERSIAL PRACTICE Aerial wolf control in Alaska remains highly controversial. Citizen efforts to stop it continue. Alaska voters have twice approved initiatives to stop the hunts, and another is slated to go on the ballot later this year. In March, Superior Court Judge William F. Morse invalidated the aerial killing of wolves in several small areas of the state while issuing a ruling upholding the predator control program. The suit was filed by Friends of Animals, Defenders of Wildlife and the Alaska Wildlife Alliance. Ron Clarke, assistant director of the state's Division of Wildlife Conservation, told The Associated Press that Morse's ruling was largely a victory for the program. "It reaffirms the state's position," he said. "We thought we were doing it appropriately and for the most part we are." Later in March, the shortfalls identified by Morse were fixed and the programs reactivated, according to Cathie Harms, spokeswoman for the Alaska Department of Fish and Game. But Priscilla Feral, executive director for Friends of Animals, wasn't satisfied. "The state's mean-spirited and deeply unpopular wolf-shooting forays must stop," she told the Associated Press. Wolf-control teams in airplanes kill a fraction of the 1,200 to 1,300 wolves taken by trappers in Alaska each year, but the airplane kills remain at the center of a hot debate. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wolf kill summary: Preliminary Fish and Game numbers Here is a breakdown, by game management unit, of the 124 wolves killed by same- day airborne hunting and the 157 by more traditional hunting and trapping, according to Fish and Game. Alaska has a total of 26 game management units. GMU 13 WHERE: Nelchina Basin, a broad area generally bounded by the Glenn Highway on the south, the Denali Highway to the north, the Copper River to the east and the Chickaloon River to the west. Desired population: 135-165 Fall population estimate: 242-296 Wolf kill, same-day airborne: 33 Wolf kill, hunting and trapping: 53 Total: 86 Post-control population: 156-210 GMU 16 WHERE: Drainage of the Yentna River, a tributary to the Susitna River just north of Anchorage Desired population: 30-60 Fall population estimate: 106-173 Wolf kill, same day airborne: 20 Wolf kill, hunting and trapping: 23 Total: 43 Post-control population: 63-130 GMU 19A WHERE: North slope of the Alaska Range in a huge area around the tiny village of Sleetmute Desired population: 30-36 Fall population estimate: 59-93 Wolf kill, same day airborne: 15 Wolf kill, hunting and trapping: 16 Total: 31 Post-control population: 28-62 GMU 19D WHERE: North slope of the Alaska Range in a huge area around the town of McGrath Desired population: 40 Fall population estimate: 86-114 Wolf kill, same day airborne: 29 Wolf kill, hunting and trapping: 23 Total: 52 Post-control population: 34-62 GMU 12 AND 20E WHERE: Swath of land half the length of the Alaska-Canada border from Wrangell- St. Elias National Park and Preserve in the south to the community of Eagle Desired population: 88-103 Fall population estimate: 366-398 Wolf kill, same day airborne: 27 Wolf kill, hunting and trapping: 42 Total: 69 Post-control wolf population: 259-311
_________________________________________________________________________ State wildlife officials believe they have saved more than 1,400 moose or nearly 3,000 caribou -- or some combination thereof -- with a winter program to kill wolves from aircraft, although the wolf kill remains far below what the state wanted. Hmmmmm. 124 wolves or 4,400 moose / caribou. There is some kind of moral relativism argument in here, I'm sure of it. BTW a moose bit my sister once ~(#/
4um Traitor Four stories of the flood PREDATE the Bible. As do many Biblical stories that have been previously recorded in Sumerian texts. Real scientists actually know that the flood was not a WORLDWIDE event, but rather an event that occured in an ISOLATED area. How did the dinos fit into the ark? How about giraffes that were never indiginous to the area? Maybe God used quantum physics to get 'er done just as Jesus used quantum physics to feed the masses all those fishes. The theory of evolution is equally scientific as the theory of gravity. The difference is that the theory of gravity is now LAW, while the body of evidence regarding the theory of evolution is still growing. The theory includes a much more expansive body of evidence than fossil records. Nobody with a lick of sense regarding science denies that theory of evolution is scientific. Of coure, I don't expect a person who denies inductive reasoning in lieu of the term verifiable to understand an iota about science. In regards to the infallible word of the Bible, refer to Jeremiah, 8, 8: How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the Lord," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? The Bible actually tells you that the scribes have lied and tampered with the message. What about trusting all the prophets? Jeremiah, 23, 26-27: How long shall this be in the heart of the prophesy lies? Yea, they are prophets of deceit of their own heart. Even Jesus told you to beware, Luke 24, 25: Then he (Jesus) said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart, to believe all that the prophets have spoken.
Chew on this II: Source: www.foxnews.com/story/ 0,2933,324106,00.html Alaskan Group Asks for Permission to Kill Wolf Pups ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Residents along the Kuskokwim River want state game managers to allow them to kill wolf pups in their dens. Wolf numbers seem to be rising in the wilderness around Aniak, McGrath and other villages, and the task once carried out by young Native men should be employed again to help moose populations recover, said Greg Roczicka, natural resources director with Orutsaramuit Native Council in Bethel. The tribal government and a Fish and Game advisory committee along the central Kuskokwim River have submitted separate proposals asking the Board of Game to overturn regulations outlawing the practice. The Game Board is scheduled to consider the proposals at upcoming meetings later this month and in February. At least one group plans to speak against the idea. "We're fervently opposed to it," said John Toppenberg, director with Alaska Wildlife Alliance. "It's been illegal in Alaska for a long time and deservedly so. It's a Stone Age concept of wildlife management and has no place as a management tool for civilized people. It's just barbaric." The tribal council and advisory panel also want the board to let hunters kill bear cubs in dens. Along with wolves, bears are blamed for low moose numbers around central Kuskokwim villages, said Doug Carney of Sleetmute, former chairman of Central Kuskokwim Advisory Committee. Last year's poor aerial wolf-kill and trapping season in Game Unit 19A, located around Aniak, is factoring into concerns that wolf numbers are rebounding, he said. Aerial gunners and trappers killed 10 wolves last winter and spring, compared to more than 70 in each of the two previous years, because a lack of snow made tracking and spotting wolves difficult, he said. This winter, people are seeing wolves more often than in the past two years, and trappers are finding more wolf tracks, said Carney, a trapper. Roczicka said pup killing is necessary because the central Kuskokwim region once teemed with moose, consistently providing subsistence meat for hunters from Bethel and villages. Because moose numbers have plummeted in the last five years, subsistence hunting has been eliminated or sharply reduced, he said. "It was the best moose habitat in the country and it's almost totally gone now," he said. "We want to do everything we can to get moose numbers up back to the way they were." Reviving the practice will allow predator management to continue if the state's aerial wolf-kill program ends, said Roczikca. Efforts to stop it include a citizen's initiative to appear on the state ballot in August. Many of the Yup'ik hunters who once controlled wolves in Western Alaska have died, but their stories have passed down, Roczicka said. People who are still alive today often share those stories, including members of Orutsararmuit, Roczicka said. The group's seven-member council asked Roczicka in the fall to submit the Game Board proposal, he said. The old practice is referenced in a 1997 report by the National Academy of Sciences called "Wolves, Bears and their Prey in Alaska." According to the report, Athabascans in the Interior controlled wolf numbers to protect caribou and moose by keeping track of wolf dens in hunting areas and systematically killing pups. Other methods of wolf control that are no longer practiced — and are not requested in the proposal — include wiping an animal's blood on knives or sharp rocks, he said. Wolves cut themselves as they licked away the blood, bleeding to death through their mouths. Also, some trappers would coil sharpened baleen or willow sticks into taut wads, cover them with fat and freeze the device, he said. Once gobbled by wolves, the wads would open, piercing stomachs and killing the animal, he said. Game Board chairman Cliff Judkins said the pup-killing proposal is worth discussing. "It certainly has merit if it's effective and is done by Native and Eskimo people," he said. "They certainly know where the dens are at and they're not interested in wiping out wolf populations any more than we are." If the Game Board doesn't pass Orutsararmuit's proposal at its meeting beginning Jan. 25, the central Kuskokwim Advisory committee wants its proposals passed at the Game Board's next meeting beginning Feb. 29. The proposals only apply to Game Management Unit 19, surrounding Aniak and McGrath.
_________________________________________________________________________ Personally, I'd like to catch and release them. Into Los Angeles County, Boston, Washington D.C., Albuquerque and NYC - among dozens of other places !!!
4um Traitor Please don't mistake your amazing faith as having anything whatsoever to do with science.
God is always good!
Hyannis Port, Kennebunkport, City of London...Davos?
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
It could be called "letting the wolves clean up the sick/diseased/old/worthless democrats". That's the exact language the WOLF lobby uses to defend the imbalance in nature without management. The first explorers into the interior of Alaska n the 18th centurey almost starved due to a lack of game due to wolf predation, an inconvenient truth to be sure.
_________________________________________________________________________ When was the last time you actually read your Bible? A thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday. Psalms, xc, 4. One day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Peter, iii, 8. RickyJ, which is correct? Your analysis of six 24 hour days or these Biblical sources, the inspired word of God, that contradict your own assumptions? The Bible is filled with contradictions such as this. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Hosea 4, 6. For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith, virtue; and to virtue, knowledge.
..crawford, paraguay. Absofreakintutely !
4um Traitor Sorry, I was flipping the elk steaks. I totally agree; it's clear to me.
4um Traitor Ricky, I have no difficulty distinguishing faith from science. Actually, there is much ado in the world of science to VERIFY the power of faith. The inherent quest of science is not to discount God, but rather to understand his creation. As one of my favorite scientists, who wanted only to know God's thoughts, stated: "My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind." And, "The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge." (this is verified in the Bible) And, last but surely not least, "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." Albert Einstein
This is the perfect case for states rights: why in the heck are people in the Lower 48 trying to dictate how Alaska manages their wildlife?? I've never seen one person from Alaska tell Colorado how to manage their elk herds or try to tell Texas how to manage their deer. Thinning out the wolves may not look pretty to some people, but aerial control is a necessity due to the size of Alaska. The wolf lobby is real and ultimately it leads to the ban on ALL hunting.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestTotal waste of (my) time.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#333. To: FormerLurker (#332)
#334. To: X-15 (#331)
But I knew I could draw you out into the open when I just let on that it was all about drawing blood. You're not to bright, boy.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#335. To: Old Friend (#333)
You never answered why Jesus sinned when he ate fish.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#336. To: RickyJ (#325)
They were the length of our present days or man could not have lived on Earth then.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#337. To: X-15 (#331)
You're not to bright, boy.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#338. To: FormerLurker (#336)
Prove it.
#339. To: FormerLurker (#335)
You never answered why Jesus sinned when he ate fish.
#340. To: X-15 (#321)
#341. To: Old Friend (#339)
Jesus ate fish with his disciples and like 5000 people.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#342. To: RickyJ (#338)
As soon as you prove macro evolution I will.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#343. To: X-15 (#277)
#344. To: RickyJ (#280)
(Edited)
You stand against mercy killings of animals so they won't starve to death.
#345. To: X-15, FormerLurker (#309)
You hold no moral high ground here, you're an anti-hunter. I get my "cheap fucking thrills" exposing you for the fraud you are. Go back to El-Pee, Fred Mertz.
#346. To: X-15, FormerLurker (#311)
Nobody is killing wolves for sport from an airplane, you and the Defenders of Wildlife are a bunch of goddamn, motherfucking, lying sons-of-bitches. Eat shit and die you jackass.
#347. To: X-15, FormerLurker (#322)
(Edited)
Nobody is killing wolves for sport from an airplane, - X
#348. To: FormerLurker, X-15 (#337)
X-15: You're not to bright, boy.
#349. To: Refinersfire (#347)
#350. To: Dakmar (#349)
(Edited)
I'm gonna make any wolves on my property wear little snow plows. Where can I hire some PETA volunteers?
#351. To: Refinersfire (#346)
you and the Defenders of Wildlife are a bunch of goddamn, motherfucking, lying sons-of-bitches. Eat shit and die you jackass.
#352. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#351)
I've been too busy to visit this site for the past 10 days or so but, clearly, the level and the civility of debate here has improved much.
#353. To: Refinersfire (#352)
#354. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#353)
#355. To: Refinersfire (#350)
EDIT: I know of one here locally, that protest all of our hunting cabins, you can have him.. but once you take him, we don't want him back!
#356. To: Dakmar (#355)
Hell with politics, I just want a flunky I can dress like a reindeer and send across town with packages. Oops, I've said too much.
#357. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#353)
(Edited)
one's mind is a terrible thing to (turn to) waste.
#358. To: Dakmar (#355)
#359. To: FormerLurker (#334)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#360. To: X-15 (#359)
Aerial hunting program kills 124 wolves
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#361. To: Old Friend (#282)
The Bible is true the flood happened. Real scientists usually know this.
#362. To: FormerLurker (#334)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#363. To: X-15 (#362)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#364. To: abraxas (#361)
(Edited)
The theory of evolution is equally scientific as the theory of gravity.
#365. To: Rotara (#363)
#366. To: Rotara (#363)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#367. To: RickyJ (#308)
God made all things we can know about in six 24 hour days. He could have done it in a nano-second if he wanted to, but he chose to do it in six 24 hour days.
#368. To: Dakmar (#365)
Hyannis Port, Kennebunkport, City of London...Davos?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#369. To: X-15 (#366)
It could be called "letting the wolves clean up the sick/diseased/old/worthless democrats". That's the exact language the WOLF lobby uses to defend the imbalance in nature without management. The first explorers into the interior of Alaska n the 18th centurey almost starved due to a lack of game due to wolf predation, an inconvenient truth to be sure.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#370. To: RickyJ (#364)
Please don't mistake your amazing faith as having anything whatsoever to do with science.
#371. To: christine (#340)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
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