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Title: Two 4um Rules
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URL Source: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=32709
Published: Feb 5, 2009
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2009-02-05 15:13:31 by christine
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Comments: 224

Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be.

First, I should clarify that Rule #1 includes fellow posters. As you all know, I have a very liberal and tolerant free speech policy here. There is no rule against ad hominems or profanity. However, I have noticed of late a marked increase of both to the point where it's become most unsavory and is setting a tone that, I feel, is beneath us as reasonable and mature adults. Other than the two specified rules to which I expect adherance, no one's speech is constrained, so I'm requesting that you please employ self restraint.

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#6. To: christine (#0)

Profanity is never required to eviscerate the commentary of a drooling, slack jawed, perfidous, malignant, malefactorious, microencephalic, duplicitous, squirrel brained, lizard breathed, slimewad, of a no good back shooting yellow dog having miniscule intellect and discernment with morals that would make a Harlot blush.

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-05   15:34:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Profanity is never required to eviscerate the commentary of a drooling, slack jawed, perfidous, malignant, malefactorious, microencephalic, duplicitous, squirrel brained, lizard breathed, slimewad, of a no good back shooting yellow dog having miniscule intellect and discernment with morals that would make a Harlot blush.

Better than kicking a perfectly good dog. ;-)

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-05   17:17:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

This is a welcome revision of the rules. Thank you.

Oh, lookie, the worst violator of such new standards of behavior demonstrates with his signature he still does not get it.

Listen Rotara, discussion that you do not agree with nor get does not then denote a '4UM traitor.'

Get a life, and get a clue.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-05   23:57:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Listen Rotara, discussion that you do not agree with nor get does not then denote a '4UM traitor.'

Get a life, and get a clue.

You'd look good with a pin pulled grenade in your mouth.

Or standing up against a wall.

Or under a bus.

You World Communist Traitor against America and every patriot alive or dead.

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-06   10:24:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Unlike you, I have used grenades and have learned the proper way to use them. And I have been to war, have you?

You are a loud mouth and a braggard with no concern for anything that is not your brand of maglomania and intolersnt political dogma.

You dance at the edge of the new policy challenging it in a passive agressive fashion every bit as much as you do your little blow fish, or male peacock routine with me trying to impress yourself and others.

Your use of patriot to cloak the true nature of brown boot behavior that systematically and thugishly eradicates what to people like you is unacceptable political advocacy and belief is contrary to the mission and purpose of this board. That you allegedly speak for the only true, patriotic perspective that should be tolerated is your little way to resonate with the sort of spirit Adolph Hitler operated in, nothing more.

And here I don't have to do more than point out the obvious, as you are definitely more then willing and able to continually discredit yourself and show you are a thug wannabe, nothing more.

Your childish and malicious use of violent references as to how opponents of yours' should be handled makes it clear to me that it is you, not me who are on the wrong board.

This is a free speech zone, not a place to bully and threaten to attempt to drive others away or threaten their existence.

Whine to someone else, like someone who actually gives a shit about your garbage. You are pathetic and amusing to me, little else.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-07   0:54:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Once again you little f**king World Socialist Obamalamadingdong pond scum sucking Traitor; you can't talk your way out of it. You asked for it, you're going to get it.

Did you get your MillionCivilian Osnitch Corps assignment yet, you lying sack of shit America hater ?

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   9:53:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You are a coward, and a fuck wad. Naturally one of the ways you like to shut down conversation and discussion is to accuse people of belonging to a conspiracy.

Nobody gives marching orders to me, which you don't care, as the goal you serve is to shut people up, and to try to dehumanize them.

I am here to tell you the bullying does not work, you do not scare me nor am I intimidated. I am disappointed this forum administration is gutless enough to put up with you, but as for you, clown, you don't mean shit to me.

You are ignorant, intolerant, and here to shut down lively debate and discussion if one of the participants makes you wet your pants in anger because you disagree with them so.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-07   11:32:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I am disappointed this forum administration is gutless enough to put up with you....

You're lashing out from frustration, and in so doing you're also taking advantage of christine's good nature and high pain threshold.

Let he who is without iniquity impart inertia to the first projectile.

And, for the record it takes an incredible amount of guts to defend this free speech principle and policy.

chris is a better man than me because (if it was up to me) I'd have kicked some folks to the moon by now.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-02-07   11:43:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And your opinion on this new death threat by Rot? Why do you try to bring fire to me and do not put heat to someone who takes pains to go against her policy stated in this thread. If you want to make an impact on me that causes pause, you don't do so by being unbalanced in your approach.

Unless you address that too, your words mean nothing here.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-07   11:48:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I stated my opinion in private and he politely acknowledged it.

To have done so publicly would have defeated the purpose because his personality is different from yours and it would have almost certainly resulted in a "FUCK OFF!" had I posted for all to see.

Now, we need to discuss your schedule to fit you in to the penalty box, because you certainly know better than to kick chris in the puss when you're upset.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-02-07   12:02:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I am fair to Christine not with abuse, but with a refusal to pander to her. I consider her a friend, and I tell friends when I disagree with them or where I see hypocrisy in regards to their actions or lack thereof.

She is free to take issue with me or agree, I will listen. I refuse to be a blind Rotara with a confirmed thirst for the blood of those disagreeing with him, and who is obviously in the middle of having a bad Charlie Manson complex.

If she takes issue with me, I always listen. My point is, not enough people take the time to listen to others, or respect the process of dialog or discussion in here.

What is the point of a free speech forum if the main point of many is to drive away opposing views? I am here to tell you, this is not how free speech works.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-07   12:20:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I am fair to Christine not with abuse, but with a refusal to pander to her. I consider her a friend, and I tell friends when I disagree with them or where I see hypocrisy in regards to their actions or lack thereof.

She is free to take issue with me or agree, I will listen. I refuse to be a blind Rotara with a confirmed thirst for the blood of those disagreeing with him, and who is obviously in the middle of having a bad Charlie Manson complex.

If she takes issue with me, I always listen. My point is, not enough people take the time to listen to others, or respect the process of dialog or discussion in here.

What is the point of a free speech forum if the main point of many is to drive away opposing views? I am here to tell you, this is not how free speech works.

*sigh*

She's a little tired right now. You may recall that a high profile patriot-on air personality recently criticized 4um, and it seems that the longest winded folks are also the same people who never acquainted themselves with the clear and unambiguous mission statement.

She shouldn't have to retread old ground in a pointy, prickly exchange with you, Mikey. You know her feelings as well as anyone. I know that you feel as if the 271st VietCong Regiment is honeymooning in your skivvies when certain folks gang up on you.

But, hey, chris doesn't take sides when I'm getting gang fanged, either. Sometimes I have to step back because even if I "really tell them bastards!" it's bad for my health and the net gain is zip.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-02-07   12:42:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"She shouldn't have to retread old ground in a pointy, prickly exchange with you, Mike"

Part of the baggage that goes with leadership on the macro, or posting a thread like this on the micro is the boredom and even agrivation of process.

Your argument that she should post a thread about an obviously nessesary rule change children like Rot beg for and then not follow through with the easily anticipatable process that owning a venue for discussion on the Internet or creating an administrator's announcement threat will cause makes little sense.

I am glad you are gentleman enough to defense Christine, but I assure you, I am not out of the envalope of what is acceptable behavior.

You know who here is, talk to him. You have no foundation to build plausible angles of attack regarding my words here. But thanks for your opinion anyway.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-07   12:57:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#103. To: ferret mike (#102)

Part of the baggage that goes with leadership on the macro, or posting a thread like this on the micro is the boredom and even agrivation of process.

Your argument that she should post a thread about an obviously nessesary rule change children like Rot beg for and then not follow through with the easily anticipatable process that owning a venue for discussion on the Internet or creating an administrator's announcement threat will cause makes little sense.

I am glad you are gentleman enough to defense Christine, but I assure you, I am not out of the envalope of what is acceptable behavior.

You know who here is, talk to him. You have no foundation to build plausible angles of attack regarding my words here. But thanks for your opinion anyway.

he he he he heeeeee

FOFLOL !!!

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07 13:00:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You know who here is, talk to him. You have no foundation to build plausible angles of attack regarding my words here. But thanks for your opinion anyway.

It's ironic that with the whole worldwide web at your fingertips you chose to make this place home. Obviously there are places where you'd be a star and very little rancor would ever erupt because folks there who share your politics would find you fascinating and a real asset.

Perhaps you like being pummeled and simultaneously feeling that it's your destiny to improve christine's character?

And, you didn't feel obliged to seek her leave before heaping up steaming ladles of character building advice on her, right?

I never thought that I'd have to bring this up to you, but, I actually had to tell two very nasty boys at Liberty Forum that talking with chris is a privilege, and then jerk both of their tickets. (And, YES she respected my decision because I was serving as her "lawyer" at the time and she never dialogued with either of them ever again.)

Would it serve any purpose to point out that you invite controversy, and that you obviously don't feel the need to ask anyone's permission before offering your opinions about them?

And, you are intelligent, polite and sensitive enough to know when you're frustrated and lashing out, hence a different standard applies when I make unsolicited observations concerning you.

And, frankly I was a little disappointed to learn that you posted under a phony screen name and denied it when asked if it was you. (several months back)

So, having seen that it's not out of the realm of possibility that you use your eloquence to hide a childish and willful stubbornness, and at times a tad of intellectual dishonesty.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-02-07 13:16:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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