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Published: Feb 5, 2009
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2009-02-05 15:13:31 by christine
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Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. First, I should clarify that Rule #1 includes fellow posters. As you all know, I have a very liberal and tolerant free speech policy here. There is no rule against ad hominems or profanity. However, I have noticed of late a marked increase of both to the point where it's become most unsavory and is setting a tone that, I feel, is beneath us as reasonable and mature adults. Other than the two specified rules to which I expect adherance, no one's speech is constrained, so I'm requesting that you please employ self restraint. You know who you are. ;)
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#131. To: Rotara (#126)
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You really aught to leave the warm, comforting fires of your carefully cultivated megalomania and try to join the real world, Rot old bean. You know things are not always going to go your own way, so you seek to cultivate 4UM as your own personal garden of intolerant hatred and delightful bigotries where you can rhetorically give workshops how to banzai tree one's mind into a narrow and dwarfish manner to anyone willing to blindly listen to you. Worry about the deceit in your own personal agendas. You worry too much about others to try to spare you the pain of actually dealing with your own personal devils, so I do feel sorry for you. You do not scare me, you also do not do more then annoy me. I take comfort in the wisdom to the truth that one like you is always their own worst enemy. I also know you are heady with delight about how this thread is going as you always love it to be all about you. Why, the first thing you did was to violate the policy this thread addresses, you it is you who are the flamer craving attention here sport, not me. Your worst enemy is the truth, that is the bottom line. Kill anyone because their beliefs offend yours', other people will fill the niche of defending the ideas of those you shed blood with instead of diologing with them. Ideas are stronger bullets, you really do need to come to terms with that simple truth.
I KNOW you two gentlemen will comport yourselves in such manner so as to NOT bring the wrath of Thor down upon you. Christine would be even worse, so consider yourselves as warned.
Well, you differ in opinion about Barack Obama then I, so I do not share your sense of there being cognitive dissonance to how I ultimately decide whom to vote for in the general election. There was pragmatism to both my support of Dr. Paul and the eventual winner of this election. either man is a perfect fit for my belief system, but I have come to terms with that. I am glad Ron Paul is doing what he is doing. But I am and always have been pro amnesty for illegal immigrants, and other things he likes, I don't. And I never made that a secret. Thus this contrivance of an alleged deceit by me for my willingness to take the leap of faith to support Ron Paul in the primaries holds no water. I would never support a Chuck Baldwin, for POTUS, but any man or woman of deep integrity and personal courage and leadership ability is what I first look for when deciding on someone, not their ideology. And yes, I know that in your world that sounds irrational, but it works in mine.
Yes Cyni, it is 'comporting' to know you are out there always to slop a little social grease on the situation. ;-)
I believe Mike when he says he voted Ron Paul in the primaries.
Mike... Well thank you, I think. I have been thrown out of several chat rooms and forums but never for untoward language or vicious attacks. There is far too much hate in this world to warrant propagating more. I can abide everyone here except that Turtle.
Does your wanting to nuke Israel count as a vicious attack?
I was speaking of personal attacks. Attacking Ishrul is a cultural attack. BOOM... Lot of boom for our bucks.
Oh ok. So nuking Israel is less offensive then say Rotoras curse words. Got ya.
Hey, rotara can stand on his own two feet. I mite even lob one or two in your direction. hehehehe
You are envious of Turtle because he is a King and you are a bellhop, ha ha ha!
If you want to make tom, James and me envious, show us just ONE photo of Turtle and a babe. You cant and you know it.
You cant and you know it. Turtle only has pictures of him and babes from college, but none after. Here is another one I found, ha ha!
Looks like a nice, clean cut girl. How'd she wind up with a swamp dweller like you??
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Hehehehehehehehehehe Good one, zing that turtle good.
"Really? I missed that. Can you clue some of us slow ones in?" Yes, it seems that we were once visited by the august. His name brings up one post on the 4um search engine. He was highly exercised by the antics of our resident swamp dweller and expressed the thought that this poster's posts did not live up to the standards and tone that christine and her husband were trying to set on this forum. Some of the posters disagreed. Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Kinda like the socialist government you defend.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON
Post #146 was meant to be pinged to you, farmfriend.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Ah thank you.
"Kinda like the socialist government you defend." Civilians killed in Iraq since Obama was elected: 1157 - 1265 Coalition forces killed in Iraq since Obama was elected: 48 Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Kinda like the socialist government you defend. Kool-Aid slinging World Socialists wipe their ass with the Constitution and BoRs.
4um Traitor He was highly exercised by the antics of our resident swamp dweller and expressed the thought that this poster's posts did not live up to the standards and tone that christine and her husband were trying to set on this forum. Some of the posters disagreed. I remember that! I was one who disagreed. I thought the guy was a Biblical mode of transportation. (note my attempt to avoid bad language) Too bad he didn't stick around and get to know people here. That's one of the problems I have with the Republicans. They don't seemed opposed to fascism. Like the Dems they just control that which they don't agree with. Glad I'm out of the party.
{Comment pulled - wudidiz showing off}
Oh no you din't !
4um Traitor Google him. What a drama queen. He said she said Alex said etc etc etc ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!!.
Click for Privacy and Preparedness files How can anybody consider Schwarz to be an improvement over George Bush or John Kerry? Has Stadtmiller been fooled by Schwarz? Or do they work together to deceive us? How can we respect Stadtmiller when he looks up to Karl Schwarz? Something is seriously wrong here! Also, look at his radio network. I realize that it is difficult to find people to do honest radio shows, but take a look at some of the radio hosts on the RBN radio network: I thought that was if nothing else..interesting. I 'heard' him a time or two but he had no traction with me. Now that he's come onto 4um to take some shots and run, I'll see what else I can dig up.
4um Traitor Yeah, it would have been nice if he had taken a moment once in a while to chat with us. But I'm sure he's too busy saving the Republic. He hints that he has some kind of relationship with or knowledge of christine. He might have shown a little interest in that case instead of breezing in just to kneecap us and then disappear. Careless PR in any case.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Alex Jones (www.infowars.com) promotes Jeff Rense, and appears on Rense's radio show. Mike Rivero (www.WhatReallyHappened.com) promotes Alex Jones and appears on Jones' radio show. Thousands of us used to trust Alex Jones, but it has become obvious that he is trying to minimize the role of Zionism and blame the world's corruption on mysterious entities, such as Germanic Death Cults, Luciferian Controllers, and the New World Order. You can find more information on why many of us believe Rense and Jones are part of the criminal network in such documents as: You will learn more about Zionism by avoiding Jones and Rivero and remaining on my website. Also, take a close look at how stupid Rivero's defense of the official theory of Flight 77 is: You should at least read the first three paragraphs of that article. Rivero expects us to believe that in the "near future" photographs or video will be discovered that shows Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon, and we will all be embarrassed for suspecting the government lied about Flight 77. You might expect that after five years Rivero could have figured out that Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon. His defense of the Apollo moon landing is also stupid. Rivero is obviously lying about many issues. The question is why? Oy Vey ! This guy must post to 4um what with his Joooooo obsession !
4um Traitor Christine, you're tight with john s. - what's up with his hit and run stuff ? Is he a Mod on 4um ?
4um Traitor I dunno. Alex pastes the Mossad/Zion etc. regularly. I personally think that Zionism in its various flavors is a tool of the NWO too and will ultimately be betrayed by it as well. Just my opinion.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Or, was it just another attempt to make me look bad? by Eric Hufschmid It was a few minutes before his radio show was to begin. He was upset to find himself and others accused of possible links to a criminal network. He decided to put aside whatever he was originally planning to talk about on the radio show and deal with this issue. He called me on the phone, and asked me to come on his show to explain my article. Even though Stadtmiller is suspicious, you ought to be impressed by his desire to face a problem, and give me the chance to explain myself. Imagine if America had more people like this. Imagine if more people -- when faced with problems -- dropped whatever they were doing and decided to face their problems immediately. And imagine that despite their anger they give their critics a serious chance to explain themselves, as opposed to the attacks we see on CNN, Air America, PBS, etc. You can find this interview at the RBN site: Or, was Stadtmiller merely worried that he was being exposed? Was he hoping to make me look bad? 9/11 was an inside job? One of the reasons I wrote the article that upset Stadtmiller is that I am concerned that the Americans and Europeans are getting only one side of 9/11 and other crimes. Specifically, most people are getting only the view of the Zionist Jew. For example, most of the 9/11 truth seekers describe 9/11 as "an inside job", and Webster Tarpley has a book called "9/11, Made In The USA." The implication is that Americans did 9/11 to themselves, usually because of some plot to take over the world, or to control oil. We need a second opinion, and a third, fourth... We are encouraged to get second opinions when doctors discover serious problems in our body. Since 9/11 is a serious problem for our nation, why shouldn't we be allowed to get a second opinion? 9/11 was an outside job! Furthermore, some of the Americans involved in 9/11, such as Michael Chertoff and Larry Silverstein, hold American citizenship, but emotionally they are Zionists or Israelis. Their body may be in America, but their mind is somewhere else. I think there were Americans involved in the attack on the Pentagon because that was a superficial attack. That attack closely resembles the staged attacks that were proposed in the Northwoods document. The demolition of the World Trade Center buildings was so destructive and murderous that it is difficult to explain why Americans would do that to themselves. It was an act of war, which suggests an outside enemy. It also suggests that the people who did it consider us to be nothing more than cockroaches. Where is Stadtmiller in all this? I never accused John Stadtmiller of being part of the criminal Zionist network. Instead, I was pointing out that there are some mysterious people who seem to have financial connections to Zionists. Specifically, I was concerned that Karl Schwarz was getting money from the billionaire Simon family, and that he was trying to use that money to influence Stadtmiller. Take a look at the Simon family: You may as well look at the Miller family, also: Americans buy entertainment, not serious material Stadtmiller could be an innocent American citizen trying to do his best to help the nation, but anybody who has tried to sell information about 9/11, the attack on the USS Liberty, or any other Zionist crime will agree that it is incredibly difficult to cover your costs, let alone make a lot of profit. This puts people like Stadtmiller in a risky predicament. Specifically, since it is difficult for them to pay their bills, Zionists can offer them money in an attempt to influence them. By the way, I financed my book and DVD with money I had saved up, so I didn't need funding. Deborah Simon invested in Karl Schwarz's nonexistent business. Nobody invests money without expecting something in return, so what was she expecting? Did she expect to make a profit when his company actually came into existence and became profitable? This would be a valid expectation if Schwarz had a history of developing successful, profitable businesses. But does he have such a history? I don't see it. My guess is that Simon was giving Schwarz money to influence people in the 9/11 movement, such as Stadtmiller, Dylan Avery, and/or other people. Disclose your contributions, Simon! Many people realize that secretive campaign contributions are dangerous. As a result, we now have laws requiring donations to be identified. However, why do we tolerate secretive donations to 9/11 investigators? We should demand that the Simon family disclose all of their investments in the 9/11 movement. The billionaire Simon family gives a lot of money to politicians, such as Lee Hamilton who served on the 9/11 commission. The Simons are not giving money to politicians because they don't know what else to do with their money. Rather, they are giving money because they expect something in return. What would they expect from a politician? Do I have to tell you the answer? Somebody is helping Dylan Avery produce a Hollywood movie about 9/11, and somebody will put it in theaters. Are these mysterious people producing this movie solely for the potential profit? Or, are they helping to promote Dylan's movie because they want to push a particular 9/11 message onto the American people? The Holocaust Promoters and Zionist Deniers are getting the publicity I think Dylan Avery, the Scholars For 9/11 Truth, Webster Tarpley, Mike Berger, 911truth.org, and many others, are getting a lot of publicity because every one of them are lying to us about 9/11, the Holocaust, the Apollo moon landing, the attack on the USS Liberty, the world wars, and Zionism in general. I think these people are part of the criminal network. Anybody who associates with or promotes criminals should expect other people to investigate them. If you don't want to be investigated, don't associate with criminals. If you try to influence my life, expect me to wonder who you are Anybody who comes forward to tell us what to think about 9/11, George Bush, the Iraq war, Zionism, or other issues should expect other people to ask: • Who are his friends? • Is somebody promoting or funding him? • Why should I believe anything he says? I have to stir the pot a bit more Before I end this article, I just can't resist causing a bit more trouble. I have no idea if Professor Jones is an honest citizen or part of the criminal network. However, it is becoming obvious that the Scholars For 9/11 Truth are a group of Holocaust Promoting, Zionist Denying criminals, so Professor Jones and other members should make a decision about whether they want to continue helping these criminals. Have you noticed that the Scholars For 9/11 Truth have absolutely no concern for the mysterious murder of one of their members? Why would investigators who care so much about 9/11 not want to investigate a murder of one of their own members? While it appears that America will soon disintegrate, there is the remote possibility that enough Americans and/or Europeans will locate their brains and their backbones, help us put an end to this Zionist Cancer, and create a new world. If this happens, the people who have been helping the criminals may discover that their excuse -- "But I didn't realize they were criminals!" -- is failing to evoke pity from us. The Zionists are not playing games, so why should we? It is time to wake up and smell the dead goyim. Or is Harold Rosenthal correct? Finally, I sometimes wonder if I am helping the goyim. I wonder if all I really do is poke the Zionists in the ribs, which encourages them to work harder and more intelligently. Have you seen the interview with Harold Rosenthal? Some of his remarks about the goyim: "The people are only stupid pigs that grunt and squeal the chants we give them, whether they be truth or lies." "We virtually get away with murder, and all the goy do is to talk about it, which is ineffective since we, the masters of propaganda, always publish a contradicting account." Can the goyim learn to take care of themselves? Will they ever see through the deception? Or are the Zionists correct that we are an inferior species, just barely above the animal? Time will tell... what have i gotten into here
4um Traitor Anyone that thinks the current leaders of israel or ameriKa have America's or Israel's BEST INTERESTS are sorely, sorely deluded. I prefer to focus on America and what WE need to do as opposed to focusing on another country or culture outside of America. Every Joooo on the planet could be incinerated in Grand Canyon along with israel tomorrow and the problems America has wouldn't change.
4um Traitor Yeah, that is an unfortunate condition. Someday, if you are lucky (and live long enough), they may be able to cure it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. too late to turn around
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Exactly. No one can ever convince me that they would have ever voted for Ron Paul when they voted for a communist pos like Obama.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I never accused John Stadtmiller of being part of the criminal Zionist network. Instead, I was pointing out that there are some mysterious people who seem to have financial connections to Zionists. Specifically, I was concerned that Karl Schwarz was getting money from the billionaire Simon family, and that he was trying to use that money to influence Stadtmiller. Take a look at the Simon family: Bollyn-9-11-Controlling-the-Message.html You may as well look at the Miller family, also: Bollyn-TheHollywoodFantasyofFlight93.html the stadtmiller 4um saga continues..
4um Traitor I thought his problem was hydroencephaly (he said he had a large brain).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Exactly. No one can ever convince me that they would have ever voted for Ron Paul when they voted for a communist pos like Obama. Lies for "The Greater Good" are not lies. -end mao-
4um Traitor Yet another sign that you are not right in the head. How many illegal aliens does the US need? As for Chuck Baldwin, one may never know how good me might have been as president, but I know he is a far better man than the communist you voted for.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I don't. Ron isn't a communist.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. This is entirely possible. It requires a complete disconnect from the data relevant to the case along with a fundamentally unhinged cognitive apparatus. This is a syndrome that needs a name. It allows God-fearing Republicans to cheer when illiterate peasants are picked up from the battlefield, chained to the floor and tormented for months in order to extract information from them that they are not privy to. The same illness affects the progressives who reflexively flock to the "antiwar" candidate and cling to him even when he quite clearly shows himself not to be what he was advertised to be. These people will continue to lick this man's boots when he betrays himself to the corporate interests that progressives loathe. They will continue to soil themselves in submission even as this man tramples all over their interests. Then there are the "feminists" who maintain blind faith in Bill Clinton. But now I cannot go on because any further contemplation of this topic is bringing on a wave of nausea.
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"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#132. To: Ferret Mike, rotara (#131)
#133. To: James Deffenbach (#127)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#134. To: Cynicom (#132)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#135. To: Rotara, Ferret Mike (#122)
#136. To: Ferret Mike (#134)
#137. To: Cynicom (#136)
#138. To: Old Friend (#137)
#139. To: Cynicom (#138)
#140. To: Old Friend (#139)
#141. To: Cynicom (#136)
I can abide everyone here except that Turtle.
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#142. To: Turtle (#141)
#143. To: Cynicom (#142)
If you want to make tom, James and me envious, show us just ONE photo of Turtle and a babe.
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#144. To: Turtle (#143)
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#145. To: randge, turtle (#144)
How'd she wind up with a swamp dweller like you??
#146. To: (#107)
"You may recall that a high profile patriot-on air personality recently criticized 4um,"
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#147. To: Ferret Mike, rotara (#131)
Kill anyone because their beliefs offend yours
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#148. To: farmfriend (#107)
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#149. To: randge (#148)
Post #146 was meant to be pinged to you, farmfriend.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#150. To: IndieTX (#147)
"Kill anyone because their beliefs offend yours"
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#151. To: IndieTX (#147)
Kill anyone because their beliefs offend yours
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#152. To: randge, HOUNDDAWG, christine (#146)
Yes, it seems that we were once visited by the august. His name brings up one post on the 4um search engine.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#153. To: Turtle (#143)
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"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#154. To: wudidiz (#153)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#155. To: randge (#146)
john stadtmiller
#156. To: PSUSA (#155)
John Stadtmiller
Stadtmiller operates the RBN radio network (www.rbnlive.com). He also published Karl Schwarz's book, and he was supporting Schwarz for president in 2008.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#157. To: PSUSA, farmfriend (#155)
What a drama queen.
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#158. To: All (#156)
Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, Mike RiveroJeff Rense (www.rense.com) promotes both Karl Schwarz and Jon Carlson.
• DarylBradfordSmith_Carlson.htm
• DarylBradfordSmith_myspace.html
whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#159. To: randge, christine, john stadtmiller (#157)
He hints that he has some kind of relationship with or knowledge of christine.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#160. To: Rotara (#158)
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#161. To: All (#158)
becomes an inspiration! On Friday, 14 July 2006, one of John Stadtmiller's employees at the Republic Broadcasting Network notified him about this article (fixed the link) of mine.
http://216.240.133.177/Stadtmiller/06/#July
Look for the file from Friday July 14, 2006.
My opinion is that 9/11 was an outside job; a Zionist job. I am sure that there were some Americans involved, but I don't think the Americans were the primary planners, and I don't think the Americans planned the demolition of the towers or installed the explosives.
Bollyn-9-11-Controlling-the-Message.html
Bollyn-TheHollywoodFantasyofFlight93.html
Have you seen my interview with a victim of the Columbine shooting? It might help you understand how deceptive Michael Moore, and other truth seekers really are: 
• Who is this person who is trying to influence my life and the lives of other people?
We don't need secretive people to tell us about a secretive crime network. I'm not afraid of investigations; why are some of you? There is an expression about this: "If you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen."
Professor Steven Jones is a member of the Scholars For 9/11 Truth. The Zionists Deniers in that group may be using him as bait to bring Gullible Goyim to their deceptive organization.
"Your people don't have guts."
You can read that interview here:
Harold_Rosenthal.html
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#162. To: randge (#160)
(Edited)
I personally think that Zionism in its various flavors is a tool of the NWO too and will ultimately be betrayed by it as well.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#163. To: Turtle (#128)
Turtle's Brain is large
Lord Acton
#164. To: Rotara (#161)
what have i gotten into here
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#165. To: Jethro Tull (#129)
As in Obama is a socialist and RP is a constitutionalist. They're mutually exclusive, and therefore exchanging support from one to the other is a steaming pile.
Lord Acton
#166. To: randge (#164)
Where is Stadtmiller in all this?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#167. To: Jethro Tull, Turtle (#130)
Two words for you; apalone spinifera.
Lord Acton
#168. To: James Deffenbach (#165)
As in Obama is a socialist and RP is a constitutionalist. They're mutually exclusive, and therefore exchanging support from one to the other is a steaming pile.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#169. To: Ferret Mike (#133)
I am and always have been pro amnesty for illegal immigrants
Lord Acton
#170. To: Old Friend (#135)
I believe Mike when he says he voted Ron Paul in the primaries.
Lord Acton
#171. To: James Deffenbach (#165)
No one can ever convince me that they would have ever voted for Ron Paul when they voted for a communist pos like Obama.
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