[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

We have no legal framework for designating domestic terror organizations

Los Angeles Braces For Another Day Of Chaos As Newsom Pits Marxist Color Revolution Against Trump Admin

Methylene Blue Benefits

Another Mossad War Crime

80 served arrest warrants at 'cartel afterparty' in South Carolina

When Ideas Become Too Dangerous To Platform

The silent bloodbath that's tearing through the middle-class

Kiev Postponed Exchange With Russia, Leaves Bodies Of 6,000 Slain Ukrainian Troops In Trucks

Iranian Intelligence Stole Trove Of Sensitive Israeli Nuclear Files

In the USA, the identity of Musk's abuser, who gave him a black eye, was revealed

Return of 6,000 Soldiers' Bodies Will Cost Ukraine Extra $2.1Bln

Palantir's Secret War: Inside the Plot to Cripple WikiLeaks

Digital Prison in the Making?

In France we're horrified by spending money on Ukraine

Russia has patented technology for launching drones from the space station

Kill ICE: Foreign Flags And Fires Sweep LA

6,000-year-old skeletons with never-before-seen DNA rewrites human history

First Close Look at China’s Ultra-Long Range Sixth Generation J-36Jet

I'm Caitlin Clark, and I refuse to return to the WNBA

Border Czar Tom Homan: “We Are Going to Bring National Guard in Tonight” to Los Angeles

These Are The U.S. States With The Most Drug Use

Chabria: ICE arrested a California union leader. Does Trump understand what that means?Anita Chabria

White House Staffer Responsible for ‘Fanning Flames’ Between Trump and Musk ID’d

Texas Yanks Major Perk From Illegal Aliens - After Pioneering It 24 Years Ago

Dozens detained during Los Angeles ICE raids

Russian army suffers massive losses as Kremlin feigns interest in peace talks — ISW

Russia’s Defense Collapse Exposed by Ukraine Strike

I heard libs might block some streets. 🤣

Jimmy Dore: What’s Being Said On Israeli TV Will BLOW YOUR MIND!

Tucker Carlson: Douglas Macgregor- Elites will be overthrown


All is Vanity
See other All is Vanity Articles

Title: Two 4um Rules
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=32709
Published: Feb 5, 2009
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2009-02-05 15:13:31 by christine
Ping List: *4um Admin News*     Subscribe to *4um Admin News*
Keywords: None
Views: 7802
Comments: 224

Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be.

First, I should clarify that Rule #1 includes fellow posters. As you all know, I have a very liberal and tolerant free speech policy here. There is no rule against ad hominems or profanity. However, I have noticed of late a marked increase of both to the point where it's become most unsavory and is setting a tone that, I feel, is beneath us as reasonable and mature adults. Other than the two specified rules to which I expect adherance, no one's speech is constrained, so I'm requesting that you please employ self restraint.

You know who you are. ;) Subscribe to *4um Admin News*

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

Comments (1-150) not displayed.
      .
      .
      .

#151. To: IndieTX (#147)

Kill anyone because their beliefs offend yours

Kinda like the socialist government you defend.

Kool-Aid slinging World Socialists wipe their ass with the Constitution and BoRs.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   15:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: randge, HOUNDDAWG, christine (#146)

Yes, it seems that we were once visited by the august. His name brings up one post on the 4um search engine.

He was highly exercised by the antics of our resident swamp dweller and expressed the thought that this poster's posts did not live up to the standards and tone that christine and her husband were trying to set on this forum.

Some of the posters disagreed.

I remember that! I was one who disagreed. I thought the guy was a Biblical mode of transportation. (note my attempt to avoid bad language) Too bad he didn't stick around and get to know people here.

That's one of the problems I have with the Republicans. They don't seemed opposed to fascism. Like the Dems they just control that which they don't agree with. Glad I'm out of the party.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-07   15:59:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Turtle (#143) (Edited)

{Comment pulled - wudidiz showing off}


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2009-02-07   16:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: wudidiz (#153)

Oh no you din't !

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   16:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: randge (#146)

john stadtmiller

Google him. What a drama queen. He said she said Alex said etc etc etc ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!!.

Click for Privacy and Preparedness filesPhotobucket

PSUSA  posted on  2009-02-07   16:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: PSUSA (#155)

John Stadtmiller
Stadtmiller operates the RBN radio network (www.rbnlive.com). He also published Karl Schwarz's book, and he was supporting Schwarz for president in 2008.

How can anybody consider Schwarz to be an improvement over George Bush or John Kerry? Has Stadtmiller been fooled by Schwarz? Or do they work together to deceive us? How can we respect Stadtmiller when he looks up to Karl Schwarz? Something is seriously wrong here!

Also, look at his radio network. I realize that it is difficult to find people to do honest radio shows, but take a look at some of the radio hosts on the RBN radio network:

I thought that was if nothing else..interesting. I 'heard' him a time or two but he had no traction with me. Now that he's come onto 4um to take some shots and run, I'll see what else I can dig up.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   16:14:21 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: PSUSA, farmfriend (#155)

What a drama queen.

Yeah, it would have been nice if he had taken a moment once in a while to chat with us. But I'm sure he's too busy saving the Republic.

He hints that he has some kind of relationship with or knowledge of christine. He might have shown a little interest in that case instead of breezing in just to kneecap us and then disappear.

Careless PR in any case.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-07   16:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: All (#156)

Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, Mike Rivero
Jeff Rense (www.rense.com) promotes both Karl Schwarz and Jon Carlson.

Alex Jones (www.infowars.com) promotes Jeff Rense, and appears on Rense's radio show.

Mike Rivero (www.WhatReallyHappened.com) promotes Alex Jones and appears on Jones' radio show.

Thousands of us used to trust Alex Jones, but it has become obvious that he is trying to minimize the role of Zionism and blame the world's corruption on mysterious entities, such as Germanic Death Cults, Luciferian Controllers, and the New World Order.

You can find more information on why many of us believe Rense and Jones are part of the criminal network in such documents as:
DarylBradfordSmith_Carlson.htm
DarylBradfordSmith_myspace.html

You will learn more about Zionism by avoiding Jones and Rivero and remaining on my website.

Also, take a close look at how stupid Rivero's defense of the official theory of Flight 77 is:
whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html

You should at least read the first three paragraphs of that article. Rivero expects us to believe that in the "near future" photographs or video will be discovered that shows Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon, and we will all be embarrassed for suspecting the government lied about Flight 77.

You might expect that after five years Rivero could have figured out that Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon. His defense of the Apollo moon landing is also stupid.

Rivero is obviously lying about many issues. The question is why?

Oy Vey ! This guy must post to 4um what with his Joooooo obsession !

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   16:17:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: randge, christine, john stadtmiller (#157)

He hints that he has some kind of relationship with or knowledge of christine.

Christine, you're tight with john s. - what's up with his hit and run stuff ? Is he a Mod on 4um ?

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   16:19:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Rotara (#158)

I dunno. Alex pastes the Mossad/Zion etc. regularly.

I personally think that Zionism in its various flavors is a tool of the NWO too and will ultimately be betrayed by it as well.

Just my opinion.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-07   16:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: All (#158)

John Stadtmiller
becomes an inspiration!

Or, was it just another attempt to make me look bad?

by Eric Hufschmid

On Friday, 14 July 2006, one of John Stadtmiller's employees at the Republic Broadcasting Network notified him about this article (fixed the link) of mine.

It was a few minutes before his radio show was to begin. He was upset to find himself and others accused of possible links to a criminal network. He decided to put aside whatever he was originally planning to talk about on the radio show and deal with this issue. He called me on the phone, and asked me to come on his show to explain my article.

Even though Stadtmiller is suspicious, you ought to be impressed by his desire to face a problem, and give me the chance to explain myself.

Imagine if America had more people like this. Imagine if more people -- when faced with problems -- dropped whatever they were doing and decided to face their problems immediately.

And imagine that despite their anger they give their critics a serious chance to explain themselves, as opposed to the attacks we see on CNN, Air America, PBS, etc.

You can find this interview at the RBN site:
http://216.240.133.177/Stadtmiller/06/#July
Look for the file from Friday July 14, 2006.

Or, was Stadtmiller merely worried that he was being exposed? Was he hoping to make me look bad?
 

9/11 was an inside job?

One of the reasons I wrote the article that upset Stadtmiller is that I am concerned that the Americans and Europeans are getting only one side of 9/11 and other crimes. Specifically, most people are getting only the view of the Zionist Jew.

For example, most of the 9/11 truth seekers describe 9/11 as "an inside job", and Webster Tarpley has a book called "9/11, Made In The USA." The implication is that Americans did 9/11 to themselves, usually because of some plot to take over the world, or to control oil.
 

We need a second opinion, and a third, fourth...

We are encouraged to get second opinions when doctors discover serious problems in our body. Since 9/11 is a serious problem for our nation, why shouldn't we be allowed to get a second opinion? 


 

9/11 was an outside job!

My opinion is that 9/11 was an outside job; a Zionist job. I am sure that there were some Americans involved, but I don't think the Americans were the primary planners, and I don't think the Americans planned the demolition of the towers or installed the explosives.

Furthermore, some of the Americans involved in 9/11, such as Michael Chertoff and Larry Silverstein, hold American citizenship, but emotionally they are Zionists or Israelis. Their body may be in America, but their mind is somewhere else.

I think there were Americans involved in the attack on the Pentagon because that was a superficial attack. That attack closely resembles the staged attacks that were proposed in the Northwoods document.

The demolition of the World Trade Center buildings was so destructive and murderous that it is difficult to explain why Americans would do that to themselves. It was an act of war, which suggests an outside enemy. It also suggests that the people who did it consider us to be nothing more than cockroaches.
 

Where is Stadtmiller in all this?

I never accused John Stadtmiller of being part of the criminal Zionist network. Instead, I was pointing out that there are some mysterious people who seem to have financial connections to Zionists.

Specifically, I was concerned that Karl Schwarz was getting money from the billionaire Simon family, and that he was trying to use that money to influence Stadtmiller.

Take a look at the Simon family:
Bollyn-9-11-Controlling-the-Message.html

You may as well look at the Miller family, also:
Bollyn-TheHollywoodFantasyofFlight93.html
 
 

Americans buy entertainment, not serious material

Stadtmiller could be an innocent American citizen trying to do his best to help the nation, but anybody who has tried to sell information about 9/11, the attack on the USS Liberty, or any other Zionist crime will agree that it is incredibly difficult to cover your costs, let alone make a lot of profit.

This puts people like Stadtmiller in a risky predicament. Specifically, since it is difficult for them to pay their bills, Zionists can offer them money in an attempt to influence them.

By the way, I financed my book and DVD with money I had saved up, so I didn't need funding.

Deborah Simon invested in Karl Schwarz's nonexistent business. Nobody invests money without expecting something in return, so what was she expecting?

Did she expect to make a profit when his company actually came into existence and became profitable?

This would be a valid expectation if Schwarz had a history of developing successful, profitable businesses. But does he have such a history? I don't see it.

My guess is that Simon was giving Schwarz money to influence people in the 9/11 movement, such as Stadtmiller, Dylan Avery, and/or other people.
 

Disclose your contributions, Simon!

Many people realize that secretive campaign contributions are dangerous. As a result, we now have laws requiring donations to be identified.

However, why do we tolerate secretive donations to 9/11 investigators? We should demand that the Simon family disclose all of their investments in the 9/11 movement.

The billionaire Simon family gives a lot of money to politicians, such as Lee Hamilton who served on the 9/11 commission. The Simons are not

giving money to politicians because they don't know what else to do with their money. Rather, they are giving money because they expect something in return. What would they expect from a politician? Do I have to tell you the answer?

Somebody is helping Dylan Avery produce a Hollywood movie about 9/11, and somebody will put it in theaters. Are these mysterious people producing this movie solely for the potential profit?

Or, are they helping to promote Dylan's movie because they want to push a particular 9/11 message onto the American people?
 

The Holocaust Promoters and Zionist Deniers are getting the publicity

I think Dylan Avery, the Scholars For 9/11 Truth, Webster Tarpley, Mike Berger, 911truth.org, and many others, are getting a lot of publicity because every one of them are lying to us about 9/11, the Holocaust, the Apollo moon landing, the attack on the USS Liberty, the world wars, and Zionism in general. I think these people are part of the criminal network. 

Anybody who associates with or promotes criminals should expect other people to investigate them. If you don't want to be investigated, don't associate with criminals.
 
Have you seen my interview with a victim of the Columbine shooting? It might help you understand how deceptive Michael Moore, and other truth seekers really are:


Columbine-DonnaTaylor.html


 

If you try to influence my life, expect me to wonder who you are

Anybody who comes forward to tell us what to think about 9/11, George Bush, the Iraq war, Zionism, or other issues should expect other people to ask:

• Who is this person who is trying to influence my life and the lives of other people?

• Who are his friends?

• Is somebody promoting or funding him?

• Why should I believe anything he says?


We don't need secretive people to tell us about a secretive crime network. I'm not afraid of investigations; why are some of you? There is an expression about this: "If you don't like the heat, get out of the kitchen."
 
 

I have to stir the pot a bit more

Before I end this article, I just can't resist causing a bit more trouble.

Professor Steven Jones is a member of the Scholars For 9/11 Truth. The Zionists Deniers in that group may be using him as bait to bring Gullible Goyim to their deceptive organization.

I have no idea if Professor Jones is an honest citizen or part of the criminal network. However, it is becoming obvious that the Scholars For 9/11 Truth are a group of Holocaust Promoting, Zionist Denying criminals, so Professor Jones and other members should make a decision about whether they want to continue helping these criminals. 

Have you noticed that the Scholars For 9/11 Truth have absolutely no concern for the mysterious murder of one of their members?


Death-of-Michael-Zebuhr.html

Why would investigators who care so much about 9/11 not want to investigate a murder of one of their own members?

While it appears that America will soon disintegrate, there is the remote possibility that enough Americans and/or Europeans will locate their brains and their backbones, help us put an end to this Zionist Cancer, and create a new world.

If this happens, the people who have been helping the criminals may discover that their excuse -- "But I didn't realize they were criminals!" -- is failing to evoke pity from us.

The Zionists are not playing games, so why should we? It is time to wake up and smell the dead goyim.
 

Or is Harold Rosenthal correct?

Finally, I sometimes wonder if I am helping the goyim. I wonder if all I really do is poke the Zionists in the ribs, which encourages them to work harder and more intelligently.

Have you seen the interview with Harold Rosenthal? Some of his remarks about the goyim:

"Your people don't have guts."

"The people are only stupid pigs that grunt and squeal the chants we give them, whether they be truth or lies." 

"We virtually get away with murder, and all the goy do is to talk about it, which is ineffective since we, the masters of propaganda, always publish a contradicting account."
 

You can read that interview here:
Harold_Rosenthal.html

Can the goyim learn to take care of themselves? Will they ever see through the deception? Or are the Zionists correct that we are an inferior species, just barely above the animal?

Time will tell...

what have i gotten into here

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   16:25:01 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: randge (#160) (Edited)

I personally think that Zionism in its various flavors is a tool of the NWO too and will ultimately be betrayed by it as well.

Anyone that thinks the current leaders of israel or ameriKa have America's or Israel's BEST INTERESTS are sorely, sorely deluded.

I prefer to focus on America and what WE need to do as opposed to focusing on another country or culture outside of America.

Every Joooo on the planet could be incinerated in Grand Canyon along with israel tomorrow and the problems America has wouldn't change.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   16:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Turtle (#128)

Turtle's Brain is large

Yeah, that is an unfortunate condition. Someday, if you are lucky (and live long enough), they may be able to cure it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-07   16:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Rotara (#161)

what have i gotten into here

too late to turn around

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-07   16:29:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: Jethro Tull (#129)

As in Obama is a socialist and RP is a constitutionalist. They're mutually exclusive, and therefore exchanging support from one to the other is a steaming pile.

Exactly. No one can ever convince me that they would have ever voted for Ron Paul when they voted for a communist pos like Obama.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-07   16:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: randge (#164)

Where is Stadtmiller in all this?

I never accused John Stadtmiller of being part of the criminal Zionist network. Instead, I was pointing out that there are some mysterious people who seem to have financial connections to Zionists.

Specifically, I was concerned that Karl Schwarz was getting money from the billionaire Simon family, and that he was trying to use that money to influence Stadtmiller.

Take a look at the Simon family: Bollyn-9-11-Controlling-the-Message.html

You may as well look at the Miller family, also: Bollyn-TheHollywoodFantasyofFlight93.html

the stadtmiller 4um saga continues..

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   16:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Jethro Tull, Turtle (#130)

Two words for you; apalone spinifera.

I thought his problem was hydroencephaly (he said he had a large brain).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-07   16:32:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: James Deffenbach (#165)

As in Obama is a socialist and RP is a constitutionalist. They're mutually exclusive, and therefore exchanging support from one to the other is a steaming pile.

Exactly. No one can ever convince me that they would have ever voted for Ron Paul when they voted for a communist pos like Obama.

Lies for "The Greater Good" are not lies. -end mao-

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   16:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: Ferret Mike (#133)

I am and always have been pro amnesty for illegal immigrants

Yet another sign that you are not right in the head. How many illegal aliens does the US need?

As for Chuck Baldwin, one may never know how good me might have been as president, but I know he is a far better man than the communist you voted for.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-07   16:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Old Friend (#135)

I believe Mike when he says he voted Ron Paul in the primaries.

I don't. Ron isn't a communist.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-07   16:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: James Deffenbach (#165)

No one can ever convince me that they would have ever voted for Ron Paul when they voted for a communist pos like Obama.

This is entirely possible.

It requires a complete disconnect from the data relevant to the case along with a fundamentally unhinged cognitive apparatus.

This is a syndrome that needs a name. It allows God-fearing Republicans to cheer when illiterate peasants are picked up from the battlefield, chained to the floor and tormented for months in order to extract information from them that they are not privy to.

The same illness affects the progressives who reflexively flock to the "antiwar" candidate and cling to him even when he quite clearly shows himself not to be what he was advertised to be. These people will continue to lick this man's boots when he betrays himself to the corporate interests that progressives loathe. They will continue to soil themselves in submission even as this man tramples all over their interests.

Then there are the "feminists" who maintain blind faith in Bill Clinton. But now I cannot go on because any further contemplation of this topic is bringing on a wave of nausea.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-07   16:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Rotara (#168)

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-02-07   17:07:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: randge (#171)

Excellent post, randge.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-07   17:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: randge, ALL, PSUSA, ROTARA, turtle, christine, john stadtmiller, formerlurker, wudits, wakeup, jethro tull, farmfriend, disgusted, x-15, twenty twelve (#160)

Anyone who has power like a radio program can be compromised in return for "immunity." Never believe or trust everything you hear at face value such as Alex Jones, other radio patriots..whoever they may be. Remember the double agent faux patriot Bo Gritz??? I'm sure the dead Branch Davidians remember the faux patriot movement (which ended up being a front to sell things, not to save Amerika) who never raised one finger to help them. I believe I remember ONE radio show in particular that was all talk and no action when it came to the Branch Davidians and co-hosted Mark K ..for one. "The Intelligence Report?" (I may have the name of the show wrong) Who else was on that show? But I remember this being said ---> "We urge you NOT to go to Waco!!!" Yep! "Patriots," hosts, Bo, ALL said it... I remember those words well...very well. Do not come on here and deny you said them. (The "Sam Houston's" of the patriot movement no doubt)

Alex NEVER advocates action..other than talk. I just heard him tell someone NOT to make a bugout backpack...(!!!) WTF?
He is capable of obfuscation (like Hannity and the talking heads only at a different kind of audience) and advocates DELAY...delay...delay... Who benefits????? (Perhaps he knows if he says what he really feels he'll be arrested? I don't know. But he is SLICK professional and listen between the lines is all I am saying. USe caution.)

The point is not to accuse. It is to use your OWN mind. Examine. Scrutinize. The forces of Evil are not stupid and can quote scripture to the gulllible lambs better than they can, just like they can enunciate what's happening in the world so clearly...because some might just be involved in it.

BEWARE. Trust but VERIFY is all I'm saying.

Many of these guys exist to sell things, like silver rounds (cool if you want a memory of an event like Waco) but that are worthless in trading because they can't be verified by most convenience store clerk types, tapes, memberships, health items both legit and not so legit, and other stuff.

Don't be used...yeah some of them say a lot of true stuff. That's how progaganda and agent provateurs work. Then they slip in the subtle mind control....yeah I've heard it on Hannity and AlexJones.

As far as JS, I used to listen to you for years on S/W and you seemed sincere and helped to open my eyes to the Truth..along with the likes of Chuck Harder and the Populist movement. However, I would trust you personally only because you know Christine and her husband. Yeah I think you lapsed in judgement slamming Turtle, perhaps because of your passion at the gravity of what is going on, but we all have at times. I am one of the worst offenders at "losing it" as FL can verify.
I AM surprised you've only had time to drop in here ONE TIME and make such an intellectually disappointing post on that one visit. I would have hoped for something greater.. There were some nice fish to fry with one's first post other than trying to make Turtle soup out of a poor defenseless shelled creature :)We all need comic relief now and again.
I do know, however, that RN is quite a different person in writing than he was on the show..and that gave me pause.

Our enemies and their enforcers are not only Evil butchers who masturbate at the thought of destroying lives and families, they are wise. Beware............of............groups. Many of these people with enough power to get on the airwaves (or run large movements like Don Black) can easily be infiltrated, used as snitches by the StateInc for their positions in return for the professional courtesy of immunity and being left alone. This is all speculation with no proof and I accuse NO individual...but use your own brain (not your emotions). What does it tell you?

Most real patriots are not rich and end up selling dollar DVDs because they CARE..you know who I'm talking about (thank you!).

Many real patriots have been killed or financially destroyed. That is one way you can know them. You should know them...

It is beginning... now... IMO and don't believe anyone who tries to tell you otherwise and tells you to delay or not to worry YET..it's always not YET (Jones) In fact, it may already be too late. Tomorrow most assuredly will be too late. "IF not now, when?"
Trust no one except yourself.
DO worry and DO prepare. Yesterday! NObody really knows who is sincere and who is not. Just use your OWN mind is all I'm saying.

Alas, Babylon

/end of today's ramblings

..........I know I probably forgot several people to ping...apologies.....and no personal insults intended to anyone..I tried to be as general as possible and I only call them like I see them at the time ..like Turtle, except I love Labradors :)))

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-02-07   18:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: randge, Cynicom (#144)

How'd she wind up with a swamp dweller like you??

Turtle introduced her to the pleasures of being a woman.

Turtle made her talk baby talk.

Turtle is, as always, amazing.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-07   18:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: IndieTX (#174)

It is beginning... now...

Yes, I do think that you are right, and to me this was a stunning post in terms of content and also in terms of the apprehension that is taking over my world view as I read the words and realize that the warnings that I began to hear from sources years ago, like Tom Valentine's Radio Free America are taking shape NOW.

They are taking shape in the form of real events that will touch us like events have never touched us. The main event is upon us. The actors have come onto the set. And we are not just an audience or mere witnesses. We are on stage too.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-07   18:39:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Turtle (#175)

I'll take you at your word.

There's sometimes no accounting for the affections of a woman.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-07   18:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: randge (#177)

There's sometimes no accounting for the affections of a woman.

Turtle has stirred the brains of dozens of women just by looking at them.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-07   18:51:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Turtle (#178)

You got my car ready, BTW, Turtle?

I like my ride at the slip when we tie up.

Wanna get up to the Club with no fuss when I show up at the Island.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-07   19:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: randge (#179) (Edited)

Wasn't that the French car with the ginormous penis on top?

Turtle Island offers Gremlins. When the Buckwheat trio aren't hauling luggage, they are also cab drivers, offering you an unforgettable ride in the island's two 1974 Gremlins.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-07   19:15:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Turtle (#180) (Edited)

Shoot, Turtle, I don't need a driver when I show up. Just a drink and a decent car ferchrissakes.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-07   19:24:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: IndieTX (#174)

Well said !

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   20:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Itistoolate (#172)

Dees' graphics creep me out because they're so spot on.

it's a full court press on WTP now. it's gonna get fugly.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   20:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: Rotara (#183)

I feel the same way. It is like he's reading our minds to come up with those pics.

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-02-07   21:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Original_Intent (#6) (Edited)

Profanity is never required to eviscerate the commentary of a drooling, slack jawed, perfidous, malignant, malefactorious, microencephalic, duplicitous, squirrel brained, lizard breathed, slimewad, of a no good back shooting yellow dog having miniscule intellect and discernment with morals that would make a Harlot blush.

Post of the F***ing year. :))

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-02-07   21:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: IndieTX (#185)

Post of the F***ing year. :))

Now now calm down before I add you to my bad boy list with Drifter and rot.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-07   21:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: IndieTX (#185)

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-08   0:00:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: randge (#146)

John stadtmiller

Thank you for replying. I didn't realize that several peeps had asked me to explain my comment and I had left it unanswered.

Your post is timely and very much appreciated.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-02-08   1:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: HOUNDDAWG (#188)

Cheers, 'Dawg.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-08   1:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: IndieTX (#147)

Kill anyone because their beliefs offend yours

Kinda like the socialist government you defend.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-08   1:40:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: ferret mike, weasel mikey, North American Unioner Mike McCarthy (#133)

But I am and always have been pro amnesty for illegal immigrants

Tell me again about how sincerely you stand against the merger of Mexico, Canada and AmeriKa ! You're a lying NAUer !!

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-08   2:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



      .
      .
      .

Comments (192 - 224) not displayed.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest


[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]