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Title: Two 4um Rules
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Published: Feb 5, 2009
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2009-02-05 15:13:31 by christine
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Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. First, I should clarify that Rule #1 includes fellow posters. As you all know, I have a very liberal and tolerant free speech policy here. There is no rule against ad hominems or profanity. However, I have noticed of late a marked increase of both to the point where it's become most unsavory and is setting a tone that, I feel, is beneath us as reasonable and mature adults. Other than the two specified rules to which I expect adherance, no one's speech is constrained, so I'm requesting that you please employ self restraint. You know who you are. ;)
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#6. To: christine (#0)
Profanity is never required to eviscerate the commentary of a drooling, slack jawed, perfidous, malignant, malefactorious, microencephalic, duplicitous, squirrel brained, lizard breathed, slimewad, of a no good back shooting yellow dog having miniscule intellect and discernment with morals that would make a Harlot blush.
Better than kicking a perfectly good dog. ;-)
This is a welcome revision of the rules. Thank you. Oh, lookie, the worst violator of such new standards of behavior demonstrates with his signature he still does not get it. Listen Rotara, discussion that you do not agree with nor get does not then denote a '4UM traitor.' Get a life, and get a clue.
Get a life, and get a clue. You'd look good with a pin pulled grenade in your mouth. Or standing up against a wall. Or under a bus. You World Communist Traitor against America and every patriot alive or dead.
Unlike you, I have used grenades and have learned the proper way to use them. And I have been to war, have you? You are a loud mouth and a braggard with no concern for anything that is not your brand of maglomania and intolersnt political dogma. You dance at the edge of the new policy challenging it in a passive agressive fashion every bit as much as you do your little blow fish, or male peacock routine with me trying to impress yourself and others. Your use of patriot to cloak the true nature of brown boot behavior that systematically and thugishly eradicates what to people like you is unacceptable political advocacy and belief is contrary to the mission and purpose of this board. That you allegedly speak for the only true, patriotic perspective that should be tolerated is your little way to resonate with the sort of spirit Adolph Hitler operated in, nothing more. And here I don't have to do more than point out the obvious, as you are definitely more then willing and able to continually discredit yourself and show you are a thug wannabe, nothing more. Your childish and malicious use of violent references as to how opponents of yours' should be handled makes it clear to me that it is you, not me who are on the wrong board. This is a free speech zone, not a place to bully and threaten to attempt to drive others away or threaten their existence. Whine to someone else, like someone who actually gives a shit about your garbage. You are pathetic and amusing to me, little else.
Once again you little f**king World Socialist Obamalamadingdong pond scum sucking Traitor; you can't talk your way out of it. You asked for it, you're going to get it. Did you get your MillionCivilian Osnitch Corps assignment yet, you lying sack of shit America hater ?
You are a coward, and a fuck wad. Naturally one of the ways you like to shut down conversation and discussion is to accuse people of belonging to a conspiracy. Nobody gives marching orders to me, which you don't care, as the goal you serve is to shut people up, and to try to dehumanize them. I am here to tell you the bullying does not work, you do not scare me nor am I intimidated. I am disappointed this forum administration is gutless enough to put up with you, but as for you, clown, you don't mean shit to me. You are ignorant, intolerant, and here to shut down lively debate and discussion if one of the participants makes you wet your pants in anger because you disagree with them so.
You're lashing out from frustration, and in so doing you're also taking advantage of christine's good nature and high pain threshold. Let he who is without iniquity impart inertia to the first projectile. And, for the record it takes an incredible amount of guts to defend this free speech principle and policy. chris is a better man than me because (if it was up to me) I'd have kicked some folks to the moon by now.
And your opinion on this new death threat by Rot? Why do you try to bring fire to me and do not put heat to someone who takes pains to go against her policy stated in this thread. If you want to make an impact on me that causes pause, you don't do so by being unbalanced in your approach. Unless you address that too, your words mean nothing here.
I stated my opinion in private and he politely acknowledged it. To have done so publicly would have defeated the purpose because his personality is different from yours and it would have almost certainly resulted in a "FUCK OFF!" had I posted for all to see. Now, we need to discuss your schedule to fit you in to the penalty box, because you certainly know better than to kick chris in the puss when you're upset.
I am fair to Christine not with abuse, but with a refusal to pander to her. I consider her a friend, and I tell friends when I disagree with them or where I see hypocrisy in regards to their actions or lack thereof. She is free to take issue with me or agree, I will listen. I refuse to be a blind Rotara with a confirmed thirst for the blood of those disagreeing with him, and who is obviously in the middle of having a bad Charlie Manson complex. If she takes issue with me, I always listen. My point is, not enough people take the time to listen to others, or respect the process of dialog or discussion in here. What is the point of a free speech forum if the main point of many is to drive away opposing views? I am here to tell you, this is not how free speech works.
She is free to take issue with me or agree, I will listen. I refuse to be a blind Rotara with a confirmed thirst for the blood of those disagreeing with him, and who is obviously in the middle of having a bad Charlie Manson complex. If she takes issue with me, I always listen. My point is, not enough people take the time to listen to others, or respect the process of dialog or discussion in here. What is the point of a free speech forum if the main point of many is to drive away opposing views? I am here to tell you, this is not how free speech works. *sigh* She's a little tired right now. You may recall that a high profile patriot-on air personality recently criticized 4um, and it seems that the longest winded folks are also the same people who never acquainted themselves with the clear and unambiguous mission statement. She shouldn't have to retread old ground in a pointy, prickly exchange with you, Mikey. You know her feelings as well as anyone. I know that you feel as if the 271st VietCong Regiment is honeymooning in your skivvies when certain folks gang up on you. But, hey, chris doesn't take sides when I'm getting gang fanged, either. Sometimes I have to step back because even if I "really tell them bastards!" it's bad for my health and the net gain is zip.
Really? I missed that. Can you clue some of us slow ones in?
"Really? I missed that. Can you clue some of us slow ones in?" Yes, it seems that we were once visited by the august. His name brings up one post on the 4um search engine. He was highly exercised by the antics of our resident swamp dweller and expressed the thought that this poster's posts did not live up to the standards and tone that christine and her husband were trying to set on this forum. Some of the posters disagreed.
Google him. What a drama queen. He said she said Alex said etc etc etc ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!!.
How can anybody consider Schwarz to be an improvement over George Bush or John Kerry? Has Stadtmiller been fooled by Schwarz? Or do they work together to deceive us? How can we respect Stadtmiller when he looks up to Karl Schwarz? Something is seriously wrong here! Also, look at his radio network. I realize that it is difficult to find people to do honest radio shows, but take a look at some of the radio hosts on the RBN radio network: I thought that was if nothing else..interesting. I 'heard' him a time or two but he had no traction with me. Now that he's come onto 4um to take some shots and run, I'll see what else I can dig up.
Alex Jones (www.infowars.com) promotes Jeff Rense, and appears on Rense's radio show. Mike Rivero (www.WhatReallyHappened.com) promotes Alex Jones and appears on Jones' radio show. Thousands of us used to trust Alex Jones, but it has become obvious that he is trying to minimize the role of Zionism and blame the world's corruption on mysterious entities, such as Germanic Death Cults, Luciferian Controllers, and the New World Order. You can find more information on why many of us believe Rense and Jones are part of the criminal network in such documents as: You will learn more about Zionism by avoiding Jones and Rivero and remaining on my website. Also, take a close look at how stupid Rivero's defense of the official theory of Flight 77 is: You should at least read the first three paragraphs of that article. Rivero expects us to believe that in the "near future" photographs or video will be discovered that shows Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon, and we will all be embarrassed for suspecting the government lied about Flight 77. You might expect that after five years Rivero could have figured out that Flight 77 did not crash into the Pentagon. His defense of the Apollo moon landing is also stupid. Rivero is obviously lying about many issues. The question is why? Oy Vey ! This guy must post to 4um what with his Joooooo obsession !
I dunno. Alex pastes the Mossad/Zion etc. regularly. I personally think that Zionism in its various flavors is a tool of the NWO too and will ultimately be betrayed by it as well. Just my opinion.
Anyone who has power like a radio program can be compromised in return for "immunity." Never believe or trust everything you hear at face value such as Alex Jones, other radio patriots..whoever they may be. Remember the double agent faux patriot Bo Gritz??? I'm sure the dead Branch Davidians remember the faux patriot movement (which ended up being a front to sell things, not to save Amerika) who never raised one finger to help them. I believe I remember ONE radio show in particular that was all talk and no action when it came to the Branch Davidians and co-hosted Mark K ..for one. "The Intelligence Report?" (I may have the name of the show wrong) Who else was on that show? But I remember this being said ---> "We urge you NOT to go to Waco!!!" Yep! "Patriots," hosts, Bo, ALL said it... I remember those words well...very well. Do not come on here and deny you said them. (The "Sam Houston's" of the patriot movement no doubt) Alex NEVER advocates action..other than talk. I just heard him tell someone NOT to make a bugout backpack...(!!!) WTF? The point is not to accuse. It is to use your OWN mind. Examine. Scrutinize. The forces of Evil are not stupid and can quote scripture to the gulllible lambs better than they can, just like they can enunciate what's happening in the world so clearly...because some might just be involved in it. BEWARE. Trust but VERIFY is all I'm saying. Many of these guys exist to sell things, like silver rounds (cool if you want a memory of an event like Waco) but that are worthless in trading because they can't be verified by most convenience store clerk types, tapes, memberships, health items both legit and not so legit, and other stuff. Don't be used...yeah some of them say a lot of true stuff. That's how progaganda and agent provateurs work. Then they slip in the subtle mind control....yeah I've heard it on Hannity and AlexJones. As far as JS, I used to listen to you for years on S/W and you seemed sincere and helped to open my eyes to the Truth..along with the likes of Chuck Harder and the Populist movement. However, I would trust you personally only because you know Christine and her husband. Yeah I think you lapsed in judgement slamming Turtle, perhaps because of your passion at the gravity of what is going on, but we all have at times. I am one of the worst offenders at "losing it" as FL can verify. Our enemies and their enforcers are not only Evil butchers who masturbate at the thought of destroying lives and families, they are wise. Beware............of............groups. Many of these people with enough power to get on the airwaves (or run large movements like Don Black) can easily be infiltrated, used as snitches by the StateInc for their positions in return for the professional courtesy of immunity and being left alone. This is all speculation with no proof and I accuse NO individual...but use your own brain (not your emotions). What does it tell you? Most real patriots are not rich and end up selling dollar DVDs because they CARE..you know who I'm talking about (thank you!). Many real patriots have been killed or financially destroyed. That is one way you can know them. You should know them... It is beginning... now... IMO and don't believe anyone who tries to tell you otherwise and tells you to delay or not to worry YET..it's always not YET (Jones) In fact, it may already be too late. Tomorrow most assuredly will be too late. "IF not now, when?" Alas, Babylon /end of today's ramblings ..........I know I probably forgot several people to ping...apologies.....and no personal insults intended to anyone..I tried to be as general as possible and I only call them like I see them at the time ..like Turtle, except I love Labradors :)))
Well said !
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#32. To: Original_Intent, christine (#6)
Profanity is never required to eviscerate the commentary of a drooling, slack jawed, perfidous, malignant, malefactorious, microencephalic, duplicitous, squirrel brained, lizard breathed, slimewad, of a no good back shooting yellow dog having miniscule intellect and discernment with morals that would make a Harlot blush.
#51. To: Rotara, chritine (#32)
#63. To: ferret mike (#51)
Listen Rotara, discussion that you do not agree with nor get does not then denote a '4UM traitor.'
#66. To: Rotara, christine (#63)
#68. To: ferret mike, weasel mike (#66)
#69. To: Rotara, christine (#68)
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#71. To: Ferret Mike, christine (#69)
I am disappointed this forum administration is gutless enough to put up with you....
#72. To: HOUNDDAWG (#71)
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#76. To: Ferret Mike (#72)
#80. To: HOUNDDAWG (#76)
#92. To: Ferret Mike (#80)
I am fair to Christine not with abuse, but with a refusal to pander to her. I consider her a friend, and I tell friends when I disagree with them or where I see hypocrisy in regards to their actions or lack thereof.
#107. To: HOUNDDAWG, christine (#92)
You may recall that a high profile patriot-on air personality recently criticized 4um,
#146. To: (#107)
"You may recall that a high profile patriot-on air personality recently criticized 4um,"
#155. To: randge (#146)
john stadtmiller
#156. To: PSUSA (#155)
John Stadtmiller
Stadtmiller operates the RBN radio network (www.rbnlive.com). He also published Karl Schwarz's book, and he was supporting Schwarz for president in 2008.
#158. To: All (#156)
Jeff Rense, Alex Jones, Mike RiveroJeff Rense (www.rense.com) promotes both Karl Schwarz and Jon Carlson.
• DarylBradfordSmith_Carlson.htm
• DarylBradfordSmith_myspace.html
whatreallyhappened.com/ppfinal.html
#160. To: Rotara (#158)
#174. To: randge, ALL, PSUSA, ROTARA, turtle, christine, john stadtmiller, formerlurker, wudits, wakeup, jethro tull, farmfriend, disgusted, x-15, twenty twelve (#160)
He is capable of obfuscation (like Hannity and the talking heads only at a different kind of audience) and advocates DELAY...delay...delay... Who benefits????? (Perhaps he knows if he says what he really feels he'll be arrested? I don't know. But he is SLICK professional and listen between the lines is all I am saying. USe caution.)
I AM surprised you've only had time to drop in here ONE TIME and make such an intellectually disappointing post on that one visit. I would have hoped for something greater.. There were some nice fish to fry with one's first post other than trying to make Turtle soup out of a poor defenseless shelled creature :)We all need comic relief now and again.
I do know, however, that RN is quite a different person in writing than he was on the show..and that gave me pause.
Trust no one except yourself.
DO worry and DO prepare. Yesterday! NObody really knows who is sincere and who is not. Just use your OWN mind is all I'm saying.
#182. To: IndieTX (#174)
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