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Title: Two 4um Rules
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Published: Feb 5, 2009
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2009-02-05 15:13:31 by christine
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Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. First, I should clarify that Rule #1 includes fellow posters. As you all know, I have a very liberal and tolerant free speech policy here. There is no rule against ad hominems or profanity. However, I have noticed of late a marked increase of both to the point where it's become most unsavory and is setting a tone that, I feel, is beneath us as reasonable and mature adults. Other than the two specified rules to which I expect adherance, no one's speech is constrained, so I'm requesting that you please employ self restraint. You know who you are. ;)
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#165. To: Jethro Tull (#129)
Exactly. No one can ever convince me that they would have ever voted for Ron Paul when they voted for a communist pos like Obama.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I never accused John Stadtmiller of being part of the criminal Zionist network. Instead, I was pointing out that there are some mysterious people who seem to have financial connections to Zionists. Specifically, I was concerned that Karl Schwarz was getting money from the billionaire Simon family, and that he was trying to use that money to influence Stadtmiller. Take a look at the Simon family: Bollyn-9-11-Controlling-the-Message.html You may as well look at the Miller family, also: Bollyn-TheHollywoodFantasyofFlight93.html the stadtmiller 4um saga continues..
4um Traitor I thought his problem was hydroencephaly (he said he had a large brain).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Exactly. No one can ever convince me that they would have ever voted for Ron Paul when they voted for a communist pos like Obama. Lies for "The Greater Good" are not lies. -end mao-
4um Traitor Yet another sign that you are not right in the head. How many illegal aliens does the US need? As for Chuck Baldwin, one may never know how good me might have been as president, but I know he is a far better man than the communist you voted for.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I don't. Ron isn't a communist.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. This is entirely possible. It requires a complete disconnect from the data relevant to the case along with a fundamentally unhinged cognitive apparatus. This is a syndrome that needs a name. It allows God-fearing Republicans to cheer when illiterate peasants are picked up from the battlefield, chained to the floor and tormented for months in order to extract information from them that they are not privy to. The same illness affects the progressives who reflexively flock to the "antiwar" candidate and cling to him even when he quite clearly shows himself not to be what he was advertised to be. These people will continue to lick this man's boots when he betrays himself to the corporate interests that progressives loathe. They will continue to soil themselves in submission even as this man tramples all over their interests. Then there are the "feminists" who maintain blind faith in Bill Clinton. But now I cannot go on because any further contemplation of this topic is bringing on a wave of nausea.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
Excellent post, randge.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Anyone who has power like a radio program can be compromised in return for "immunity." Never believe or trust everything you hear at face value such as Alex Jones, other radio patriots..whoever they may be. Remember the double agent faux patriot Bo Gritz??? I'm sure the dead Branch Davidians remember the faux patriot movement (which ended up being a front to sell things, not to save Amerika) who never raised one finger to help them. I believe I remember ONE radio show in particular that was all talk and no action when it came to the Branch Davidians and co-hosted Mark K ..for one. "The Intelligence Report?" (I may have the name of the show wrong) Who else was on that show? But I remember this being said ---> "We urge you NOT to go to Waco!!!" Yep! "Patriots," hosts, Bo, ALL said it... I remember those words well...very well. Do not come on here and deny you said them. (The "Sam Houston's" of the patriot movement no doubt) Alex NEVER advocates action..other than talk. I just heard him tell someone NOT to make a bugout backpack...(!!!) WTF? The point is not to accuse. It is to use your OWN mind. Examine. Scrutinize. The forces of Evil are not stupid and can quote scripture to the gulllible lambs better than they can, just like they can enunciate what's happening in the world so clearly...because some might just be involved in it. BEWARE. Trust but VERIFY is all I'm saying. Many of these guys exist to sell things, like silver rounds (cool if you want a memory of an event like Waco) but that are worthless in trading because they can't be verified by most convenience store clerk types, tapes, memberships, health items both legit and not so legit, and other stuff. Don't be used...yeah some of them say a lot of true stuff. That's how progaganda and agent provateurs work. Then they slip in the subtle mind control....yeah I've heard it on Hannity and AlexJones. As far as JS, I used to listen to you for years on S/W and you seemed sincere and helped to open my eyes to the Truth..along with the likes of Chuck Harder and the Populist movement. However, I would trust you personally only because you know Christine and her husband. Yeah I think you lapsed in judgement slamming Turtle, perhaps because of your passion at the gravity of what is going on, but we all have at times. I am one of the worst offenders at "losing it" as FL can verify. Our enemies and their enforcers are not only Evil butchers who masturbate at the thought of destroying lives and families, they are wise. Beware............of............groups. Many of these people with enough power to get on the airwaves (or run large movements like Don Black) can easily be infiltrated, used as snitches by the StateInc for their positions in return for the professional courtesy of immunity and being left alone. This is all speculation with no proof and I accuse NO individual...but use your own brain (not your emotions). What does it tell you? Most real patriots are not rich and end up selling dollar DVDs because they CARE..you know who I'm talking about (thank you!). Many real patriots have been killed or financially destroyed. That is one way you can know them. You should know them... It is beginning... now... IMO and don't believe anyone who tries to tell you otherwise and tells you to delay or not to worry YET..it's always not YET (Jones) In fact, it may already be too late. Tomorrow most assuredly will be too late. "IF not now, when?" Alas, Babylon /end of today's ramblings ..........I know I probably forgot several people to ping...apologies.....and no personal insults intended to anyone..I tried to be as general as possible and I only call them like I see them at the time ..like Turtle, except I love Labradors :)))
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON
Turtle introduced her to the pleasures of being a woman. Turtle made her talk baby talk. Turtle is, as always, amazing.
Yes, I do think that you are right, and to me this was a stunning post in terms of content and also in terms of the apprehension that is taking over my world view as I read the words and realize that the warnings that I began to hear from sources years ago, like Tom Valentine's Radio Free America are taking shape NOW. They are taking shape in the form of real events that will touch us like events have never touched us. The main event is upon us. The actors have come onto the set. And we are not just an audience or mere witnesses. We are on stage too.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. I'll take you at your word. There's sometimes no accounting for the affections of a woman.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Turtle has stirred the brains of dozens of women just by looking at them.
You got my car ready, BTW, Turtle? I like my ride at the slip when we tie up. Wanna get up to the Club with no fuss when I show up at the Island.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Wasn't that the French car with the ginormous penis on top? Turtle Island offers Gremlins. When the Buckwheat trio aren't hauling luggage, they are also cab drivers, offering you an unforgettable ride in the island's two 1974 Gremlins.
Shoot, Turtle, I don't need a driver when I show up. Just a drink and a decent car ferchrissakes. Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Well said !
4um Traitor Dees' graphics creep me out because they're so spot on. it's a full court press on WTP now. it's gonna get fugly.
4um Traitor I feel the same way. It is like he's reading our minds to come up with those pics.
Post of the F***ing year. :))
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON
Now now calm down before I add you to my bad boy list with Drifter and rot.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
Thank you for replying. I didn't realize that several peeps had asked me to explain my comment and I had left it unanswered. Your post is timely and very much appreciated.
Cheers, 'Dawg.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Kinda like the socialist government you defend. 4um Traitor Tell me again about how sincerely you stand against the merger of Mexico, Canada and AmeriKa ! You're a lying NAUer !!
4um Traitor Funny! So, he was a pair of wings, then?
I remember my good friend SierraWasp from FR used to use the term male bovine excrement. I always enjoyed it.
That's a good one! And, I know that you're concerned about your dainty lady reputation so I understand your avoidance of certain crass colloquialisms. I'm rather partial to straight forward expressions even if somewhat vulgar. My all time fave is from YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN: "MY GRANDFATHER'S WORK IS DIEU DIEU!"__"Froedrick Frawnkensteen"
Here you go again, trying in vain to put me on the defensive. I of course do not support the concept of any entity like the NAU, and one can be for amnesty for immigrants and a patriotic American, but you knew that. You just enjoy trying to play witch hunt with you in the role of Cotton Mather. ;-D
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I have apprehensions about pointing out what a Traitor you are because sometimes I wonder if you aren't posting from the back of a short, yellow bus.
4um Traitor Know whatcha mean, he's always into some kind of shell game or the other.
one can be for amnesty for immigrants and a patriotic American Both of those statements just plain suck.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace ALAS, BABYLON
You say many things, but knowing what a lying coward you are, I don't give a shit what you have to say at this point.
200 Good one Corn Flake Girl, you're the lying World Socialist NAU'er projecting here. Everyone knows it. You're not fooling anyone. You're a dirty rotten degenerate thief, a Traitor, a menace to the Constitution. You know what you deserve.
4um Traitor They are true. And I have lost my job in the woods here in Oregon to the influx of Hispanic workers. I am concerned with the problem and issue, but I refuse to ever forget those involved on both sides of the issue are human beings, and that they are here because of the same motivators all human beings are subject to involving concern for food, shelter and other necessities, and a desire for a future for their kids. I believe an amnesty can be crafted that satisfies all parties to the point resolution can be achieved. You are welcome to disagree and I respect your view on this, especially as you have the futures of your boys to think about. But a repressive pogrom to root all of the alleged violators would not only not solve the problem, but it would damage want little standing we have internationally in the wake of Bush, and would run contrary to our spirit of value for human rights. I don't want amnesty to be without an acceptance of responsibility or requirements, but I don't believe in a fascistic use of force done without mercy, to teach a lesson in a way that damages out Constitution further then it has been the past eight years.
Oh, yeah, another eunuch class implied death threat, like that's a surprise coming from an ass like you.
What do Barrack Barry Hussein Soetoro Hussen Dunham Obamalamadingdong, Juan mcKein, Saracuda, Jorge Arbusto and Mikey the WEASEL McCarthy all have in common ?
4um Traitor Weasel Traitor, I don't threaten anyone.
4um Traitor What do you have in common with a maggot? Answer, everything. So, this is the sort of free speech you desire to bring to 4UM as you continually try to root out those who do not agree with you? Free speech as long as those who disagree with you don't come here? Is that how it is supposed to work here according to Christine? Bet it isn't, and you know this. Face it, you are a megalomaniac, and all you care about is you and your own ego.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAs in Obama is a socialist and RP is a constitutionalist. They're mutually exclusive, and therefore exchanging support from one to the other is a steaming pile.
Lord Acton
#166. To: randge (#164)
Where is Stadtmiller in all this?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#167. To: Jethro Tull, Turtle (#130)
Two words for you; apalone spinifera.
Lord Acton
#168. To: James Deffenbach (#165)
As in Obama is a socialist and RP is a constitutionalist. They're mutually exclusive, and therefore exchanging support from one to the other is a steaming pile.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#169. To: Ferret Mike (#133)
I am and always have been pro amnesty for illegal immigrants
Lord Acton
#170. To: Old Friend (#135)
I believe Mike when he says he voted Ron Paul in the primaries.
Lord Acton
#171. To: James Deffenbach (#165)
No one can ever convince me that they would have ever voted for Ron Paul when they voted for a communist pos like Obama.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#172. To: Rotara (#168)
#173. To: randge (#171)
Lord Acton
#174. To: randge, ALL, PSUSA, ROTARA, turtle, christine, john stadtmiller, formerlurker, wudits, wakeup, jethro tull, farmfriend, disgusted, x-15, twenty twelve (#160)
He is capable of obfuscation (like Hannity and the talking heads only at a different kind of audience) and advocates DELAY...delay...delay... Who benefits????? (Perhaps he knows if he says what he really feels he'll be arrested? I don't know. But he is SLICK professional and listen between the lines is all I am saying. USe caution.)
I AM surprised you've only had time to drop in here ONE TIME and make such an intellectually disappointing post on that one visit. I would have hoped for something greater.. There were some nice fish to fry with one's first post other than trying to make Turtle soup out of a poor defenseless shelled creature :)We all need comic relief now and again.
I do know, however, that RN is quite a different person in writing than he was on the show..and that gave me pause.
Trust no one except yourself.
DO worry and DO prepare. Yesterday! NObody really knows who is sincere and who is not. Just use your OWN mind is all I'm saying.
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#175. To: randge, Cynicom (#144)
How'd she wind up with a swamp dweller like you??
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#176. To: IndieTX (#174)
It is beginning... now...
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#177. To: Turtle (#175)
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#178. To: randge (#177)
There's sometimes no accounting for the affections of a woman.
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#179. To: Turtle (#178)
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#180. To: randge (#179)
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No place is better than Turtle Island.
#181. To: Turtle (#180)
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www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#182. To: IndieTX (#174)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#183. To: Itistoolate (#172)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#184. To: Rotara (#183)
#185. To: Original_Intent (#6)
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Profanity is never required to eviscerate the commentary of a drooling, slack jawed, perfidous, malignant, malefactorious, microencephalic, duplicitous, squirrel brained, lizard breathed, slimewad, of a no good back shooting yellow dog having miniscule intellect and discernment with morals that would make a Harlot blush.
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#186. To: IndieTX (#185)
Post of the F***ing year. :))
#187. To: IndieTX (#185)
#188. To: randge (#146)
John stadtmiller
#189. To: HOUNDDAWG (#188)
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#190. To: IndieTX (#147)
Kill anyone because their beliefs offend yours
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#191. To: ferret mike, weasel mikey, North American Unioner Mike McCarthy (#133)
But I am and always have been pro amnesty for illegal immigrants
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#192. To: farmfriend (#152)
I thought the guy was a Biblical mode of transportation.
#193. To: HOUNDDAWG, Original_Intent (#192)
I hadn't thought about the wings.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who
#194. To: farmfriend (#193)
I remember my good friend SierraWasp from FR used to use the term male bovine excrement. I always enjoyed it.
#195. To: Rotara (#191)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#196. To: ferret mike (#195)
I of course do not support the concept of any entity like the NAU, and one can be for amnesty for immigrants and a patriotic American, but you knew that.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#197. To: Cynicom (#136)
"I can abide everyone here except that Turtle."
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#198. To: Ferret Mike, all (#195)
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But I am and always have been pro amnesty for illegal immigrants
"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx
#199. To: Rotara (#196)
"I've said it before and I'll say it again."
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#200. To: ferret mike, weasel mikey the North American Unioner (#199)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#201. To: IndieTX (#198)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#202. To: Rotara (#200)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#203. To: ferret mike, weasel mikey the North American Unioner (#201)
I believe an amnesty
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#204. To: ferret mike, weasel mikey the North American Unioner (#202)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#205. To: Rotara, christine (#203)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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