[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

We have no legal framework for designating domestic terror organizations

Los Angeles Braces For Another Day Of Chaos As Newsom Pits Marxist Color Revolution Against Trump Admin

Methylene Blue Benefits

Another Mossad War Crime

80 served arrest warrants at 'cartel afterparty' in South Carolina

When Ideas Become Too Dangerous To Platform

The silent bloodbath that's tearing through the middle-class

Kiev Postponed Exchange With Russia, Leaves Bodies Of 6,000 Slain Ukrainian Troops In Trucks

Iranian Intelligence Stole Trove Of Sensitive Israeli Nuclear Files

In the USA, the identity of Musk's abuser, who gave him a black eye, was revealed

Return of 6,000 Soldiers' Bodies Will Cost Ukraine Extra $2.1Bln

Palantir's Secret War: Inside the Plot to Cripple WikiLeaks

Digital Prison in the Making?

In France we're horrified by spending money on Ukraine

Russia has patented technology for launching drones from the space station

Kill ICE: Foreign Flags And Fires Sweep LA

6,000-year-old skeletons with never-before-seen DNA rewrites human history

First Close Look at China’s Ultra-Long Range Sixth Generation J-36Jet

I'm Caitlin Clark, and I refuse to return to the WNBA

Border Czar Tom Homan: “We Are Going to Bring National Guard in Tonight” to Los Angeles

These Are The U.S. States With The Most Drug Use

Chabria: ICE arrested a California union leader. Does Trump understand what that means?Anita Chabria

White House Staffer Responsible for ‘Fanning Flames’ Between Trump and Musk ID’d

Texas Yanks Major Perk From Illegal Aliens - After Pioneering It 24 Years Ago

Dozens detained during Los Angeles ICE raids

Russian army suffers massive losses as Kremlin feigns interest in peace talks — ISW

Russia’s Defense Collapse Exposed by Ukraine Strike

I heard libs might block some streets. 🤣

Jimmy Dore: What’s Being Said On Israeli TV Will BLOW YOUR MIND!

Tucker Carlson: Douglas Macgregor- Elites will be overthrown


All is Vanity
See other All is Vanity Articles

Title: Two 4um Rules
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=32709
Published: Feb 5, 2009
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2009-02-05 15:13:31 by christine
Ping List: *4um Admin News*     Subscribe to *4um Admin News*
Keywords: None
Views: 7793
Comments: 224

Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be.

First, I should clarify that Rule #1 includes fellow posters. As you all know, I have a very liberal and tolerant free speech policy here. There is no rule against ad hominems or profanity. However, I have noticed of late a marked increase of both to the point where it's become most unsavory and is setting a tone that, I feel, is beneath us as reasonable and mature adults. Other than the two specified rules to which I expect adherance, no one's speech is constrained, so I'm requesting that you please employ self restraint.

You know who you are. ;) Subscribe to *4um Admin News*

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

Comments (1-173) not displayed.
      .
      .
      .

#174. To: randge, ALL, PSUSA, ROTARA, turtle, christine, john stadtmiller, formerlurker, wudits, wakeup, jethro tull, farmfriend, disgusted, x-15, twenty twelve (#160)

Anyone who has power like a radio program can be compromised in return for "immunity." Never believe or trust everything you hear at face value such as Alex Jones, other radio patriots..whoever they may be. Remember the double agent faux patriot Bo Gritz??? I'm sure the dead Branch Davidians remember the faux patriot movement (which ended up being a front to sell things, not to save Amerika) who never raised one finger to help them. I believe I remember ONE radio show in particular that was all talk and no action when it came to the Branch Davidians and co-hosted Mark K ..for one. "The Intelligence Report?" (I may have the name of the show wrong) Who else was on that show? But I remember this being said ---> "We urge you NOT to go to Waco!!!" Yep! "Patriots," hosts, Bo, ALL said it... I remember those words well...very well. Do not come on here and deny you said them. (The "Sam Houston's" of the patriot movement no doubt)

Alex NEVER advocates action..other than talk. I just heard him tell someone NOT to make a bugout backpack...(!!!) WTF?
He is capable of obfuscation (like Hannity and the talking heads only at a different kind of audience) and advocates DELAY...delay...delay... Who benefits????? (Perhaps he knows if he says what he really feels he'll be arrested? I don't know. But he is SLICK professional and listen between the lines is all I am saying. USe caution.)

The point is not to accuse. It is to use your OWN mind. Examine. Scrutinize. The forces of Evil are not stupid and can quote scripture to the gulllible lambs better than they can, just like they can enunciate what's happening in the world so clearly...because some might just be involved in it.

BEWARE. Trust but VERIFY is all I'm saying.

Many of these guys exist to sell things, like silver rounds (cool if you want a memory of an event like Waco) but that are worthless in trading because they can't be verified by most convenience store clerk types, tapes, memberships, health items both legit and not so legit, and other stuff.

Don't be used...yeah some of them say a lot of true stuff. That's how progaganda and agent provateurs work. Then they slip in the subtle mind control....yeah I've heard it on Hannity and AlexJones.

As far as JS, I used to listen to you for years on S/W and you seemed sincere and helped to open my eyes to the Truth..along with the likes of Chuck Harder and the Populist movement. However, I would trust you personally only because you know Christine and her husband. Yeah I think you lapsed in judgement slamming Turtle, perhaps because of your passion at the gravity of what is going on, but we all have at times. I am one of the worst offenders at "losing it" as FL can verify.
I AM surprised you've only had time to drop in here ONE TIME and make such an intellectually disappointing post on that one visit. I would have hoped for something greater.. There were some nice fish to fry with one's first post other than trying to make Turtle soup out of a poor defenseless shelled creature :)We all need comic relief now and again.
I do know, however, that RN is quite a different person in writing than he was on the show..and that gave me pause.

Our enemies and their enforcers are not only Evil butchers who masturbate at the thought of destroying lives and families, they are wise. Beware............of............groups. Many of these people with enough power to get on the airwaves (or run large movements like Don Black) can easily be infiltrated, used as snitches by the StateInc for their positions in return for the professional courtesy of immunity and being left alone. This is all speculation with no proof and I accuse NO individual...but use your own brain (not your emotions). What does it tell you?

Most real patriots are not rich and end up selling dollar DVDs because they CARE..you know who I'm talking about (thank you!).

Many real patriots have been killed or financially destroyed. That is one way you can know them. You should know them...

It is beginning... now... IMO and don't believe anyone who tries to tell you otherwise and tells you to delay or not to worry YET..it's always not YET (Jones) In fact, it may already be too late. Tomorrow most assuredly will be too late. "IF not now, when?"
Trust no one except yourself.
DO worry and DO prepare. Yesterday! NObody really knows who is sincere and who is not. Just use your OWN mind is all I'm saying.

Alas, Babylon

/end of today's ramblings

..........I know I probably forgot several people to ping...apologies.....and no personal insults intended to anyone..I tried to be as general as possible and I only call them like I see them at the time ..like Turtle, except I love Labradors :)))

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-02-07   18:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: randge, Cynicom (#144)

How'd she wind up with a swamp dweller like you??

Turtle introduced her to the pleasures of being a woman.

Turtle made her talk baby talk.

Turtle is, as always, amazing.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-07   18:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: IndieTX (#174)

It is beginning... now...

Yes, I do think that you are right, and to me this was a stunning post in terms of content and also in terms of the apprehension that is taking over my world view as I read the words and realize that the warnings that I began to hear from sources years ago, like Tom Valentine's Radio Free America are taking shape NOW.

They are taking shape in the form of real events that will touch us like events have never touched us. The main event is upon us. The actors have come onto the set. And we are not just an audience or mere witnesses. We are on stage too.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-07   18:39:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Turtle (#175)

I'll take you at your word.

There's sometimes no accounting for the affections of a woman.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-07   18:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: randge (#177)

There's sometimes no accounting for the affections of a woman.

Turtle has stirred the brains of dozens of women just by looking at them.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-07   18:51:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Turtle (#178)

You got my car ready, BTW, Turtle?

I like my ride at the slip when we tie up.

Wanna get up to the Club with no fuss when I show up at the Island.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-07   19:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: randge (#179) (Edited)

Wasn't that the French car with the ginormous penis on top?

Turtle Island offers Gremlins. When the Buckwheat trio aren't hauling luggage, they are also cab drivers, offering you an unforgettable ride in the island's two 1974 Gremlins.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-07   19:15:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Turtle (#180) (Edited)

Shoot, Turtle, I don't need a driver when I show up. Just a drink and a decent car ferchrissakes.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-07   19:24:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: IndieTX (#174)

Well said !

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   20:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Itistoolate (#172)

Dees' graphics creep me out because they're so spot on.

it's a full court press on WTP now. it's gonna get fugly.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-07   20:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: Rotara (#183)

I feel the same way. It is like he's reading our minds to come up with those pics.

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-02-07   21:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Original_Intent (#6) (Edited)

Profanity is never required to eviscerate the commentary of a drooling, slack jawed, perfidous, malignant, malefactorious, microencephalic, duplicitous, squirrel brained, lizard breathed, slimewad, of a no good back shooting yellow dog having miniscule intellect and discernment with morals that would make a Harlot blush.

Post of the F***ing year. :))

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-02-07   21:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: IndieTX (#185)

Post of the F***ing year. :))

Now now calm down before I add you to my bad boy list with Drifter and rot.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-07   21:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: IndieTX (#185)

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-08   0:00:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: randge (#146)

John stadtmiller

Thank you for replying. I didn't realize that several peeps had asked me to explain my comment and I had left it unanswered.

Your post is timely and very much appreciated.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-02-08   1:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: HOUNDDAWG (#188)

Cheers, 'Dawg.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

randge  posted on  2009-02-08   1:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: IndieTX (#147)

Kill anyone because their beliefs offend yours

Kinda like the socialist government you defend.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-08   1:40:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: ferret mike, weasel mikey, North American Unioner Mike McCarthy (#133)

But I am and always have been pro amnesty for illegal immigrants

Tell me again about how sincerely you stand against the merger of Mexico, Canada and AmeriKa ! You're a lying NAUer !!

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-08   2:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: farmfriend (#152)

I thought the guy was a Biblical mode of transportation.

Funny!

So, he was a pair of wings, then? Photobucket

OR, AN ASS?

Photobucket

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-02-08   4:03:35 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: HOUNDDAWG, Original_Intent (#192)

I hadn't thought about the wings.

I remember my good friend SierraWasp from FR used to use the term male bovine excrement. I always enjoyed it.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-08   4:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: farmfriend (#193)

I remember my good friend SierraWasp from FR used to use the term male bovine excrement. I always enjoyed it.

That's a good one!

And, I know that you're concerned about your dainty lady reputation so I understand your avoidance of certain crass colloquialisms.

I'm rather partial to straight forward expressions even if somewhat vulgar.

My all time fave is from YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN:

"MY GRANDFATHER'S WORK IS DIEU DIEU!"__"Froedrick Frawnkensteen"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-02-08   5:41:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: Rotara (#191)

Here you go again, trying in vain to put me on the defensive. I of course do not support the concept of any entity like the NAU, and one can be for amnesty for immigrants and a patriotic American, but you knew that.

You just enjoy trying to play witch hunt with you in the role of Cotton Mather. ;-D


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-08   13:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: ferret mike (#195)

I of course do not support the concept of any entity like the NAU, and one can be for amnesty for immigrants and a patriotic American, but you knew that.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

I have apprehensions about pointing out what a Traitor you are because sometimes I wonder if you aren't posting from the back of a short, yellow bus.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-08   13:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Cynicom (#136)

"I can abide everyone here except that Turtle."

Know whatcha mean, he's always into some kind of shell game or the other.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-08   13:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Ferret Mike, all (#195) (Edited)

But I am and always have been pro amnesty for illegal immigrants

one can be for amnesty for immigrants and a patriotic American

Both of those statements just plain suck.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-02-08   13:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Rotara (#196)

"I've said it before and I'll say it again."

You say many things, but knowing what a lying coward you are, I don't give a shit what you have to say at this point.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-08   14:00:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: ferret mike, weasel mikey the North American Unioner (#199)

200

Good one Corn Flake Girl, you're the lying World Socialist NAU'er projecting here.

Everyone knows it.

You're not fooling anyone.

You're a dirty rotten degenerate thief, a Traitor, a menace to the Constitution.

You know what you deserve.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-08   14:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: IndieTX (#198)

They are true. And I have lost my job in the woods here in Oregon to the influx of Hispanic workers. I am concerned with the problem and issue, but I refuse to ever forget those involved on both sides of the issue are human beings, and that they are here because of the same motivators all human beings are subject to involving concern for food, shelter and other necessities, and a desire for a future for their kids.

I believe an amnesty can be crafted that satisfies all parties to the point resolution can be achieved.

You are welcome to disagree and I respect your view on this, especially as you have the futures of your boys to think about. But a repressive pogrom to root all of the alleged violators would not only not solve the problem, but it would damage want little standing we have internationally in the wake of Bush, and would run contrary to our spirit of value for human rights.

I don't want amnesty to be without an acceptance of responsibility or requirements, but I don't believe in a fascistic use of force done without mercy, to teach a lesson in a way that damages out Constitution further then it has been the past eight years.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-08   14:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: Rotara (#200)

Oh, yeah, another eunuch class implied death threat, like that's a surprise coming from an ass like you.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-08   14:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: ferret mike, weasel mikey the North American Unioner (#201)

I believe an amnesty

What do Barrack Barry Hussein Soetoro Hussen Dunham Obamalamadingdong, Juan mcKein, Saracuda, Jorge Arbusto and Mikey the WEASEL McCarthy all have in common ?

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-08   14:13:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: ferret mike, weasel mikey the North American Unioner (#202)

Weasel Traitor,

I don't threaten anyone.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-08   14:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: Rotara, christine (#203)

What do you have in common with a maggot?

Answer, everything. So, this is the sort of free speech you desire to bring to 4UM as you continually try to root out those who do not agree with you?

Free speech as long as those who disagree with you don't come here? Is that how it is supposed to work here according to Christine?

Bet it isn't, and you know this.

Face it, you are a megalomaniac, and all you care about is you and your own ego.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-08   14:17:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: Rotara (#204)

Bull shit. You have beeen doing it all this week. But that yoiu would resort to being a lying sack of shit in the face of undeniable evidence is no surprise coming from a hyena as yourself.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-08   14:19:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: ferret mike, weasel mikey the North American Unioner (#206)

heheheeee

Get ready bitch.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-08   14:20:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: ferret mike, weasel mikey the North American Unioner, christine (#205)

Christine, have you EVER had a bigger whiny crybaby Traitor on 4um than wee mikey mcKarthy ?

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-08   14:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: Ferret Mike (#205)

Don't take these fine people in a personal way. Some just don't like Obama at the helm.

Chat forums are a great way to relieve tension especially when some only have a right hand.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-02-08   14:22:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#209)

Nice sentiment, but Rot here has posted very strong and graphic death threats, the worst of which has been deleted. I still have copies of that thread, but though it would serve to show you what a childish and malicious ego driven asshole Rot is, I am just going to save it in case it comes handy later on as things develop. Suffice it to say, he started it, and he is the perpetuator and instigator, not me.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-08   14:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: Ferret Mike (#210)

Some folks care their world around them and their passions run high. Some don't realize they are taking their emotions out on their best friends. You could be every-one's next door neighbor for all anyone knows.

But your position is realistic, though. Obama is POTUS. Lets give the guy the chance the American People voted him for. He certainly is a breath of fresh air from the last administration.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-02-08   14:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#211)

He certainly is a breath of fresh air from the last administration.

I thot that after Clinton, after Bush, after Reagan, after Carter, after Ford etc etc.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-08   14:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: Cynicom (#212)

After WW2, the National Security Act and the War Powers Act corrupted every one of them. So, I understand your point.

grace_is_by_our_lord  posted on  2009-02-08   14:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: grace_is_by_our_lord (#213)

1940 saw our first peace time draft.

It has been downhill since then for making wars.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-08   14:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



      .
      .
      .

Comments (215 - 224) not displayed.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest


[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]