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Title: U.S. Can Ship Afghan Aid Through Russia, Kremlin Says
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URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/07/w ... e/07russia.html?_r=1&ref=world
Published: Feb 7, 2009
Author: ELLEN BARRY
Post Date: 2009-02-07 10:19:43 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 1660
Comments: 104
U.S. Can Ship Afghan Aid Through Russia, Kremlin Says By ELLEN BARRY Published: February 6, 2009 MOSCOW — Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, said Friday that Russia had fast-tracked approval of a plan to allow the United States military to ship nonlethal equipment across Russian territory to Afghanistan. Skip to next paragraph Related News Analysis: Russia Offers Kind Words, but Its Fist Is Clenched (February 6, 2009) “We gave our consent, literally, in 24 hours,” he said. “We expect our American partners to provide a concrete request with the quantity and description of cargo. We shall grant the relevant permission as soon as it happens.” Russia has emphasized its desire to cooperate with the United States and NATO in Afghanistan since the announcement on Tuesday that Kyrgyzstan, a close Russian ally, will close the Manas air base, a critical link in supplying the war effort in Afghanistan. Losing access to the base is a serious setback to President Obama, who hopes to increase the number of troops in Afghanistan. -Snip
Poster Comment: Why wouldn't Russia allow the U.S. to ship Afghanistan bound material through their territory? Our kids are about to be turned into hamburger meat, as were the Russian kids in '87. It's get even time for the Ruskies, and dopey time for anyone supporting this looming mess.
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Russia doesn't share a common border with "Afstanigan". We've already pissed of the Uzbeks, and now the Kyrgyz. The routes through Pakistan are unsafe, not to mention the fact that Pakistan is the breeding ground of the Taliban, and they are not our allies. We could ostensibly air-ship all supplies, but the heavy equipment would end up broken and unrepairable. All those items are transported by ship amd truck. Maybe we can sweet-talk (i.e. pay off) the Turkmenistan government.
Thanks Sarajevo, all the more reason to get the heck out of Afghanistan. We have enough problems without widening another war.
I hope you do not think that I'm against the war in Afghanistan. That's where this current debacle started (via Pakistan) and it should have been the primary focus instead of Iraq. This book First In: An Insider's Account of How the CIA Spearheaded the War on Terror in Afghanistan provides a surprisingly accurate account of why we should be there(a weak Afghan government allowing the expansion of the Taliban), and where we screwed up (giving millions of dollars to Afghani warlords).
I didn't know your position until now, so thanks and good luck selling war here. Be it Bush or Obama, war in Afghanistan is anti-American in every sense of the word. Perhaps if we leave them alone, they'll leave us alone. Just a thought.
I'm not here to "sell" a war. I have had experience in Iraq and Afghanistan as a civilian and will share a viewpoint every now and then. Oh yeah, they won't leave us alone. We are the "infidel" and as an infidel, we have no rights. I was told that while in Turkey in the '90's. It was rather prophetic.
??? Explain please. Those aren't high point tourist destinations.
??? Explain please. Those aren't high point tourist destinations. I was working in those area's as an evil contractor. I worked as a Remote Duty Paramedic for KBR. I realize that I'll be buried for admitting that little iota of information, but WTH. It was good money, and I had the opportunity to interact with different people, and I traveled to area's that were previously inaccessible.
How did you find 4um?
It wasn't hard. I've been lurking for at least a year now.
Sarajevo: It wasn't hard. I've been lurking for at least a year now. Did your lurking start as part of a DOD job assignment? I'm just curious. You seem to be honest thusfar.
No, I started searching the net after quite a few of the more lucid and interesting posters left ToS for other sites. I've found several sites where they've wandered to. It had nothing to do with my former employer[who, may I say, is a PoS]. The internet can be a small place.
b. It had nothing to do with my former employer[who, may I say, is a PoS]. a. Speaking of lucid interesting posters, if you want to find Burkeman1, who is a poster I personally admire greatly, he's at the following url. I just post at 4um so I am not familiar with regular posters from Tos or LP who have migrated elsewhere. Hope Burkie is one you wanted to trace. thedailyburkeman1.blogspot.com/ b. Music to my ears. You're ok, kid, despite having a few warts.
Thanks for the url. I remember him. I think he was at ToS a couple years ago. He does have some good opinions! You're ok, kid, despite having a few warts. Warts over the age of 50 is OK, but "kid"?
So, what about Christine's post, #65: "where and when did Afghanistan attack us, in your opinion?" Give some of your lucidity on this, please.
See post #75 please.
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#3. To: Sarajevo (#1)
#4. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
#7. To: Sarajevo (#4)
I hope you do not think that I'm against the war in Afghanistan.
#19. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
I didn't know your position until now, so thanks and good luck selling war here.
#23. To: Sarajevo (#19)
I have had experience in Iraq and Afghanistan as a civilian
#31. To: scrapper2, Rotara (#23)
I have had experience in Iraq and Afghanistan as a civilian.
#36. To: Sarajevo (#31)
I was working in those area's as an evil contractor. I worked as a Remote Duty Paramedic for KBR. I realize that I'll be buried for admitting that little iota of information, but WTH. It was good money, and I had the opportunity to interact with different people, and I traveled to area's that were previously inaccessible.
#40. To: scrapper2 (#36)
How did you find 4um?
#44. To: Sarajevo (#40)
scrapper: How did you find 4um?
#48. To: scrapper2 (#44)
Did your lurking start as part of a DOD job assignment?
#56. To: Sarajevo (#48)
a. No, I started searching the net after quite a few of the more lucid and interesting posters left ToS for other sites.
#66. To: scrapper2 (#56)
Speaking of lucid interesting posters, if you want to find Burkeman1, who is a poster I personally admire greatly, he's at the following url.
#71. To: Sarajevo (#66)
#80. To: randge (#71)
So, what about Christine's post, #65:
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