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Title: U.S. Can Ship Afghan Aid Through Russia, Kremlin Says
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URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/07/w ... e/07russia.html?_r=1&ref=world
Published: Feb 7, 2009
Author: ELLEN BARRY
Post Date: 2009-02-07 10:19:43 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 1683
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U.S. Can Ship Afghan Aid Through Russia, Kremlin Says By ELLEN BARRY Published: February 6, 2009 MOSCOW — Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, said Friday that Russia had fast-tracked approval of a plan to allow the United States military to ship nonlethal equipment across Russian territory to Afghanistan. Skip to next paragraph Related News Analysis: Russia Offers Kind Words, but Its Fist Is Clenched (February 6, 2009) “We gave our consent, literally, in 24 hours,” he said. “We expect our American partners to provide a concrete request with the quantity and description of cargo. We shall grant the relevant permission as soon as it happens.” Russia has emphasized its desire to cooperate with the United States and NATO in Afghanistan since the announcement on Tuesday that Kyrgyzstan, a close Russian ally, will close the Manas air base, a critical link in supplying the war effort in Afghanistan. Losing access to the base is a serious setback to President Obama, who hopes to increase the number of troops in Afghanistan. -Snip
Poster Comment: Why wouldn't Russia allow the U.S. to ship Afghanistan bound material through their territory? Our kids are about to be turned into hamburger meat, as were the Russian kids in '87. It's get even time for the Ruskies, and dopey time for anyone supporting this looming mess.
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#19. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
I'm not here to "sell" a war. I have had experience in Iraq and Afghanistan as a civilian and will share a viewpoint every now and then. Oh yeah, they won't leave us alone. We are the "infidel" and as an infidel, we have no rights. I was told that while in Turkey in the '90's. It was rather prophetic.
Oh, F*ck.....no
Clarify please: do you accept "911 Official Story®" as the truth ?
4um Traitor That's rich. Somebody should have e-mailed the DEA a picture and a tip "You won't believe where I found THIS..."
_________________________________________________________________________ ??? Explain please. Those aren't high point tourist destinations.
For the UN it might be.
4um Traitor Sarajevo said he was there as a "civilian." UN related NGOers are paid employees.
you spent time living in those countries?
OK, I'm all ears. But I don't fault them for calling you an infidel. It's their nation, and our history has been one of meddling in their affairs.
They almost always refer to themselves as civilians when in combat theaters acting in a non-military support role.
4um Traitor Clarify please: do you accept "911 Official Story®" as the truth ? First, I am unfamiliar with "911 Official Story". So, no, I do not accept it. Second, All I care to know is what I observed on that day. The book title I referred you to was for interesting reading. Much of it is factual information, especially how the CIA spent millions in 8 weeks buying off Afghan warlords.
One of the largest plants was growing at the outer fenceline of KBR Village. Not one of those jokers knew what it was. [I guess that they all think that milk comes from a store..../sarcasm]
??? Explain please. Those aren't high point tourist destinations. I was working in those area's as an evil contractor. I worked as a Remote Duty Paramedic for KBR. I realize that I'll be buried for admitting that little iota of information, but WTH. It was good money, and I had the opportunity to interact with different people, and I traveled to area's that were previously inaccessible.
I wasn't UN. I was a DoD civilian, not a tourist.
You're a NEOCON. Thanks for playing
4um Traitor ??? Explain please. Those aren't high point tourist destinations. I was working in those area's as an evil contractor. I worked as a Remote Duty Paramedic for KBR. I realize that I'll be buried for admitting that little iota of information, but WTH. It was good money, and I had the opportunity to interact with different people, and I traveled to area's that were previously inaccessible. At least you're a seemingly straight forward NEOCON tool sheeple that admits your head is buried to reality.
4um Traitor Well, duh, if the CIA hadn't involved itself in this bribery venture our small military contingent in Afghanistan along with NATO's paltry numbers would have have been over run in no time at all.
How did you find 4um?
Nice....... I was honest, so I don't make it into your little fascist fuckstick society. Well, fuck you jerk-off.
An honest NEOCON big statist government worshiping contractor is still a NEOCON.
4um Traitor The CIA joker who wrote the book was in there before the militaryb action started.
It wasn't hard. I've been lurking for at least a year now.
Let's see.....most of the inflamatory posters from ToS, WA, and LP are here under their former screen names. Are you an outsider? Now, other than what I've admitted to, can you prove that I'm a "big statist government worshiping contractor"? I may have filled your drawers full of feces for the shitz-n-giggles of it. I may be a troll...oh..zot me Ba-Bee! I'll admit, you have me on the contractor part, but IMO it's just jealousy. Yeah Ba-bee! I have qualifications which you will never possess, and it ain't gunslingin'! Now, are you finished with the insults and ready to get on with an adult discussion?
First, I am unfamiliar with "911 Official Story". So, no, I do not accept it. Second, All I care to know is what I observed on that day. Now, are you finished with the insults and ready to get on with an adult discussion? I don't know yet if I'm done insulting you. I don't see a basis for discussion between us either.
4um Traitor Because the plans to invade Afghanistan were written before 9/11 happened. I think you need to read a few non-DOD recommended authors to get a more objective insight into why it doesn't matter how many troops or how much bribe $ we use in Muslim countries, we're going to continue playing wack a mole for years to come and in so doing radicalize hundreds of thousands if not millions of Muslims along the way IF WE FAIL TO CHANGE THE ROOT CAUSE OF ANTI-AMERICAN SENTIMENT ie. our current flawed FOREIGN POLICY. For starters, google Mearsheimer and Walt + LRB + Israel Lobby. Then google Michael F. Scheuer + interviews or his name and Imperial Hubris. Thirdly, go to Dr. Ron Paul's website or LewRockwell.com and read some of his archived articles on foreign policy. I think those 3 people's opinions might give you a more balanced view than what you have become accustomed to in the DOD/KBR intellectual environment.
Sarajevo: It wasn't hard. I've been lurking for at least a year now. Did your lurking start as part of a DOD job assignment? I'm just curious. You seem to be honest thusfar.
Then cease posting to me. It's simple.
What's WA?
No it's not.
4um Traitor No, I started searching the net after quite a few of the more lucid and interesting posters left ToS for other sites. I've found several sites where they've wandered to. It had nothing to do with my former employer[who, may I say, is a PoS]. The internet can be a small place.
WoW...you find it difficult to ignore, or not post to someone whom you disagree with?
What do we disagree on ?
4um Traitor Hey thanks for that reference, Sarajevo. One of the first things my eyes sighted was Obama You tube gaffes. And this subject had as it's first example one of my all time favorites - Messiah's off-the-teleprompter Bright Light idea on how we can make a significant dent on our energy usage - ie. inflate our tires better. Yuck, yuck. I remember that swarthyguy and I got quite a bit of chuckles mileage out of that one. It brings tears to my eyes as I view it again. Sigh.
This comment-"An honest NEOCON big statist government worshiping contractor is still a NEOCON".
Why are you here and not at WA ? (That's the site the biggest ASSHOLE FREEPERS ended up starting and moving to)
4um Traitor This comment-"An honest NEOCON big statist government worshiping contractor is still a NEOCON". When did you stop being a NEOCON ?
4um Traitor b. It had nothing to do with my former employer[who, may I say, is a PoS]. a. Speaking of lucid interesting posters, if you want to find Burkeman1, who is a poster I personally admire greatly, he's at the following url. I just post at 4um so I am not familiar with regular posters from Tos or LP who have migrated elsewhere. Hope Burkie is one you wanted to trace. thedailyburkeman1.blogspot.com/ b. Music to my ears. You're ok, kid, despite having a few warts.
(That's the site the biggest ASSHOLE FREEPERS ended up starting and moving to) Thanks. I need to examine it more closely at a later date.
DUmpster level RINO site.
4um Traitor
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI didn't know your position until now, so thanks and good luck selling war here.
#20. To: Rotara (#9)
Oh fu*k. I suppose you believe "911 Official Story®" too.
#21. To: Sarajevo (#20)
Oh, F*ck.....no
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#22. To: Sarajevo (#18)
When I was at Bagram Air Base, we had marijuana and poppies growing next to the active runway.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#23. To: Sarajevo (#19)
I have had experience in Iraq and Afghanistan as a civilian
#24. To: scrapper2 (#23)
Those aren't high point tourist destinations.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#25. To: Rotara, Sarajevo (#24)
For the UN it might be.
#26. To: Sarajevo (#19)
I have had experience in Iraq and Afghanistan as a civilian
#27. To: Sarajevo (#19)
I have had experience in Iraq and Afghanistan as a civilian and will share a viewpoint every now and then.
#28. To: scrapper2 (#25)
(Edited)
UN related NGOers are paid employees.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#29. To: Rotara (#21)
Oh, F*ck.....no
#30. To: X-15 (#22)
Somebody should have e-mailed the DEA a picture and a tip "You won't believe where I found THIS..."
#31. To: scrapper2, Rotara (#23)
I have had experience in Iraq and Afghanistan as a civilian.
#32. To: scrapper2, christine (#25)
Sarajevo said he was there as a "civilian." UN related NGOers are paid employees.
#33. To: Sarajevo (#29)
All I care to know is what I observed on that day.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#34. To: Sarajevo, scrapper2 (#31)
I have had experience in Iraq and Afghanistan as a civilian.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#35. To: Sarajevo (#29)
Much of it is factual information, especially how the CIA spent millions in 8 weeks buying off Afghan warlords.
#36. To: Sarajevo (#31)
I was working in those area's as an evil contractor. I worked as a Remote Duty Paramedic for KBR. I realize that I'll be buried for admitting that little iota of information, but WTH. It was good money, and I had the opportunity to interact with different people, and I traveled to area's that were previously inaccessible.
#37. To: Rotara (#33)
You're a NEOCON. Thanks for playing
#38. To: Sarajevo (#37)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#39. To: scrapper2 (#35)
Well, duh, if the CIA hadn't involved itself in this bribery venture our small military contingent in Afghanistan along with NATO's paltry numbers would have have been over run in no time at all.
#40. To: scrapper2 (#36)
How did you find 4um?
#41. To: Rotara (#38)
An honest NEOCON big statist government worshiping contractor is still a NEOCON.
#42. To: Sarajevo (#41)
Clarify please: do you accept "911 Official Story®" as the truth ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#43. To: Sarajevo (#39)
The CIA joker who wrote the book was in there before the militaryb action started.
#44. To: Sarajevo (#40)
scrapper: How did you find 4um?
#45. To: Rotara (#42)
I don't see a basis for discussion between us either.
#46. To: Sarajevo (#41)
Let's see.....most of the inflamatory posters from ToS, WA, and LP are here under their former screen names.
#47. To: Sarajevo (#45)
Then cease posting to me. It's simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#48. To: scrapper2 (#44)
Did your lurking start as part of a DOD job assignment?
#49. To: scrapper2 (#46)
What's WA?
#50. To: Rotara (#47)
No it's not.
#51. To: Sarajevo (#50)
WoW...you find it difficult to ignore, or not post to someone whom you disagree with?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#52. To: Sarajevo, swarthyguy, All (#49)
WideAwakes
#53. To: Rotara (#51)
What do we disagree on ?
#54. To: Sarajevo (#49)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#55. To: Sarajevo (#53)
What do we disagree on ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#56. To: Sarajevo (#48)
a. No, I started searching the net after quite a few of the more lucid and interesting posters left ToS for other sites.
#57. To: Rotara (#54)
Why are you here and not at WA ?
#58. To: scrapper2 (#57)
Thanks. I need to examine it more closely at a later date.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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