Title: Cops: ~ if we hate em all, we cheat us all ~ Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Feb 7, 2009 Author:Amandil Post Date:2009-02-07 23:08:08 by Amandil Keywords:cops, resistance, anarchy, legalization Views:217 Comments:16
I hope your anecdotal friendly leo story ends with friendly leo obeying the Constitution but we all know he'll come enforce every bogus anti-RKBA policy that he's ordered to.
"Just followin' orders !"
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
"Traffic rules account for most of the contact by average citizens with law enforcement and the courts. Enforcement of laws which are widely perceived as unreasonable and unfair generates disrespect and even contempt toward those who make and enforce those laws." The Appellate Department, in People vs. Goulet
The CA legislature 'outlawed' license plate sprays which protected your license from photo cameras:
AB 801 which was signed into law in California and went into effect January 1, 2008 bans the use of sprays such as 'photoblocker' spray, which prevented red light cameras from reading the license plate. CA Assembly member WALTERS introduced the bill, and SOLORIO was the coauthor: "This bill prohibits the use of or sale of a product or device that is used to obscure a license plate from being read by an electronic device operated by law enforcement or a toll road." Former State Senator Tom McClintock, (now U.S. Congressman) to his credit, was the only person to vote against the bill.
Luke 11:46 But he said: Woe to you lawyers also, because you load men with burdens which they cannot bear and you yourselves touch not the packs with one of your fingers.
Luke 11:52 Woe to you lawyers, for you have taken away the key of knowledge. You yourselves have not entered in: and those that were entering in, you have hindered. 53 And as he was saying these things to them, the Pharisees and the lawyers began violently to urge him and to oppress his mouth about many things, 54 Lying in wait for him and seeking to catch something from his mouth, that they might accuse him.
"2You shall not add to the word that I speak to you, neither shall you take away from it: keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you." Deuteronomy Chapter 4
Ecclesiastes Chapter 5 7 If thou shalt see the oppressions of the poor, and violent judgments, and justice perverted in the province, wonder not at this matter: for he that is high hath another higher, and there are others still higher than these: 8 Moreover there is the king that reigneth over all the land subject to him. 9 A covetous man shall not be satisfied with money: and he that loveth riches shall reap no fruit from them: so this also is vanity.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
PHILADELPHIA -- A Philadelphia family said they are outraged over the arrest of one of their family members.
The family of Neftaly Cruz said police had no right to come onto their property and arrest their 21-year-old son simply because he was using his cell phone's camera. They told their story to Harry Hairston and the NBC 10 Investigators.
"I was humiliated. I was embarrassed, you know," Cruz said.
Cruz, 21, told the NBC 10 Investigators that police arrested him last Wednesday for taking a picture of police activity with his cell phone.
Police at the 35th district said they were in Cruz's neighborhood that night arresting a drug dealer.
Cruz said that when he heard a commotion, he walked out of his back door with his cell phone to see what was happening. He said that when he saw the street lined with police cars, he decided to take a picture of the scene.
"I opened (the phone) and took a shot," Cruz said.
Moments later, Cruz said he got the shock of his life when an officer came to his back yard gate.
"He opened the gate and took me by my right hand," Cruz said.
Cruz said the officer threw him onto a police car, cuffed him and took him to jail.
A neighbor said she witnessed the incident and could not believe what she saw.
"He opened up the gate and Neffy was coming down and he went up to Neffy, pulled him down, had Neffy on the car and was telling him, 'You should have just went in the house and minded your own business instead of trying to take pictures off your picture phone,'" said Gerrell Martin.
Cruz said police told him that he broke a new law that prohibits people from taking pictures of police with cell phones.
"They threatened to charge me with conspiracy, impeding an investigation, obstruction of a investigation. They said, 'You were impeding this investigation.' (I asked,) "By doing what?' (The officer said,) 'By taking a picture of the police officers with a camera phone,'" Cruz said.
Cruz's parents, who got him out of jail, said police told them the same thing.
"He said he was taking pictures with his cell phone and that was obstructing an investigation," said Aracelis Cruz, Neftaly Cruz's mother.
The NBC 10 Investigators asked the ACLU union how they viewed the incident.
"There is no law that prevents people from taking pictures of what anybody can see on the street," said Larry Frankel of the American Civil Liberties Union. "I think it's rather scary that in this country you could actually be taken down to police headquarters for taking a picture on your cell phone of activities that are clearly visible on the street."
Frankel said Cruz's civil rights might have been violated.
"He was unlawfully seized, which is a violation of the 4th amendment the last time we checked," Frankel said.
Cruz, a Penn State University senior, said that after about an hour police told him he was lucky because there was no supervisor on duty, so they released him.
"They said if the supervisor was there I wouldn't be a free man and that he is letting me go because he felt that I was a good person," Cruz said.
Police told Hairston that they did take Cruz into to custody, but they said Cruz was not on his property when they arrested him. Police also denied that they told Cruze he was breaking the law with his cell phone. Cruz's famly said it has filed a formal complaint with the police department's Internal Affairs division and are requesting a complete investigation.
Related: Officers arrest men for videotaping them Two-Year-Old Cited by Police
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
I hope your anecdotal friendly leo story ends with friendly leo obeying the Constitution but we all know he'll come enforce every bogus anti-RKBA policy that he's ordered to.
"Just followin' orders !"
Yeah.
I dont buy "there are good cops" BS. Not anymore. Not when the so-called "good cops" cover up for the "bad cops".
this whole mindset of 'come on they aint bad, most cops are good, support them' is b.s. Why would anyone need such a cheering section / apologist in the first place if they had an extablished record of doing their job?
I'll support anyone who illustrates they are a decent & moral person. none of this groupthink b.s.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Some folks have brothers, husbands, fathers, etc. that are LEOs and might post something like this at this stage.
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
#8. To: Amandil, Rotara, Artisan, IndieTX, All (#0)
A cop working in your town, if he saw me walkin slowly down your residential street at 3am, would have a job to do. Part of that job is to protect you, sitten in there locked 'n loaded. So he stops me and asks "What's up?" ~ The next words out of my mouth will determine how the rest of the movie plays out.
Wouldn't be any different ifin you were a reasonable person, pointin a shot gun at me and asking why I'm sleeping in your back yard? The next words out of my mouth would determine my fate. Even ifin it is within my rights to tell you to F off, it wouldn't be smart.
How do you get the chance to be let off with a warning from a cop who thinks a particula law is BS, ifin yer verbally slappin at him from moment one?
Example #1, since when is it illegal to walk in a neighborhood at 3am? Is there a curfew now???
Example #2, if you were to tell me to "fuck off", would that justify my shooting you? That is what this hints at.
Example #3, So we are just supposed to pucker up and kiss his ass?
Example #1, since when is it illegal to walk in a neighborhood at 3am? Is there a curfew now???
Example #2, if you were to tell me to "fuck off", would that justify my shooting you? That is what this hints at.
Example #3, So we are just supposed to pucker up and kiss his ass?
Someone had to say it. ;-)
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
great points, which illustrates my initial rteaction which is, this whole article is b.s.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
~ there's no question in me mind that you all can find every horror story imaginable about them ~ I have a few of my own ...
The videos of the cops/ex cop going out on a limb and trying to help us are not BS ... I didn't make em up ... just wanted to show a lil of the other side of the story ... sorry to have interferred in your reality ...
this was only a test, you may now return to your regular programming ...
I don't feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. (Galileo Galilei)
Example #1, since when is it illegal to walk in a neighborhood at 3am? Is there a curfew now???
Example #2, if you were to tell me to "fuck off", would that justify my shooting you? That is what this hints at.
Example #3, So we are just supposed to pucker up and kiss his ass?
Example #1, since when is it illegal to walk in a neighborhood at 3am? Is there a curfew now???
Yes, many towns do have curfews.
Example #2, if you were to tell me to "fuck off", would that justify my shooting you? That is what this hints at.
No, that would not justify your shooting me (imo) ... but it would certainly make that option more appealing to you ifin I had flipped ya off ... it's your property, I would be a trespasser
Example #3, So we are just supposed to pucker up and kiss his ass?
Not in my opinion ... I use the 30 second rule on em ... treat em with the same respect as I am using here with ya'all ... if they're an as****, I'll find out in short order and the dash cam will prove that I started out as non-combative
I don't feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. (Galileo Galilei)
Because the good ones do nothing about the bad ones.
If the good ones policed the bad ones as "good" as they police us, there would be no bad ones. But the good ones look the other way and therefore are complicit and bad by proxy.
4um Traitor "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.Samuel Adams
The videos of the cops/ex cop going out on a limb and trying to help us are not BS ... I didn't make em up ... just wanted to show a lil of the other side of the story ...
~ what the hell ya thinkin boy? this is like being a non-white-skined man walking into a clan rally to yell "Honky!' real loud ... dumb dumb dumb they hate em I tell ya ... get in line and think like them, get yer bible now, there's plenty of lernin bout lawyers and centurions in there ... don't come back till yer head is back on straight ... like all these eloquent folk here ...
~ sorry folks, I'll lern him yet
I don't feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. (Galileo Galilei)