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Title: Fire Consumes WTC 7-Size Skyscraper, Building Does Not Collapse
Source: PrisonPlanet
URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/fire-co ... uilding-does-not-collapse.html
Published: Feb 10, 2009
Author: pp
Post Date: 2009-02-10 00:46:34 by Rotara
Keywords: None
Views: 421
Comments: 35

Giant flames engulf every floor of 44-story building and it remains standing, yet limited fires across just 8 floors of WTC 7 brought down building within 7 seconds on 9/11. How can NIST’s “new phenomenon” explain this one?

Fire Consumes WTC 7-Size Skyscraper, Building Does Not Collapse 090209top1a

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, February 9, 2009

A fierce fire consumed all 44 floors of a skyscraper in Beijing today, shooting 30 foot flames into the air, but unlike the similarly-sized 47-story WTC 7, which suffered limited fires across just eight floors, the building in China did not collapse.

“The fire was burning from the ground floor to the top floor of the large building, the flames reflecting in the glass facade of the main CCTV tower next to the hotel and cultural center,” reports the New York Times.

“The 241-room Mandarin Oriental hotel in the building was due to open this year. Flames were spotted around 7:45 p.m. and within 20 minutes the fire had spread throughout the building, dominating that part of the city.”

“Hundreds of firefighting vehicles and police blocked off all approaches to the building - which was also set to house a luxury hotel due to be opened in 2009 - with flames appearing to leap 20 to 30 feet into the air,” adds The London Times.

Compare images of WTC 7 with those of the skyscraper fire in Beijing. Note that the Beijing skyscraper appears to be leaning due to the unorthodox design of the building - it did not suffer any kind of collapse.

Fire Consumes WTC 7-Size Skyscraper, Building Does Not Collapse 090209top2
Beijing skyscraper.

Fire Consumes WTC 7-Size Skyscraper, Building Does Not Collapse 090209top3
WTC 7

Fire Consumes WTC 7-Size Skyscraper, Building Does Not Collapse 090209top4
Beijing skyscraper.

Fire Consumes WTC 7-Size Skyscraper, Building Does Not Collapse 090209top5
WTC 7

Fire Consumes WTC 7-Size Skyscraper, Building Does Not Collapse 090209top7
Beijing skyscraper.

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WTC 7

To any sane and rational observer, which of these buildings would have been the most likely to collapse? And yet it was WTC 7 which collapsed within 7 seconds into its own footprint on 9/11. The Beijing skyscraper, though gutted by fire damage, remains standing.

How do the debunkers explain away this one? How come NIST’s newly invented “phenomenon” of “thermal expansion” didn’t put paid to the skyscraper in Beijing? Does fire have different properties in China compared to the U.S.? Does it behave in different ways depending on what country it’s in?

Remember that WTC 7 was structurally reinforced and suffered limited fires across just 8 floors.

The core of NIST’s explanation, that an “extraordinary event” called “thermal expansion” was to blame for the sudden total collapse of WTC 7 is of course on the face of it a fraud when one considers the innumerable number of buildings that have suffered roaring fires across the majority of their floors and remained standing, whereas WTC 7 suffered limited fire damage across a handful of floors.

The Beijing skyscraper fire provides yet more comparable evidence to illustrate the monolithic hoax that fire damage alone can cause buildings to collapse implosion style, adding more weight to the argument that both WTC 7 and the twin towers were destroyed by explosives that were seen and heard by dozens of eyewitnesses who were at ground zero.

Take another example - the Windsor building in Madrid, a 32 story skyscraper which was a raging inferno for no less than 24 hours before fire crews were able to put out the flames. Despite the building being constructed of columns a fraction as thick as those used in the WTC twin towers, as well as a total lack of fireproofing, the building’s top section only partially collapsed while the integrity of the whole structure remained firmly intact.

Fire Consumes WTC 7-Size Skyscraper, Building Does Not Collapse 090209top8 Fire Consumes WTC 7-Size Skyscraper, Building Does Not Collapse 090209top9

Compare these images of the Windsor building fire to those of WTC 7 and the twin towers.

Fire Consumes WTC 7-Size Skyscraper, Building Does Not Collapse 090209top10 Fire Consumes WTC 7-Size Skyscraper, Building Does Not Collapse 090209top11

The skyscraper fire in Beijing offers another stark and bold reminder that when one eliminates the dodgy, agenda-driven, and incomprehensible delusions of NIST, one fact remains abundantly clear;

Office fires - even the flame shooting towering inferno variety - cannot cause modern buildings to implode in on themselves and collapse. Only deliberately placed explosives can achieve this end. The Windsor fire, the Beijing skyscraper fire and many more yet to come painfully underscore the awful truth that the only way WTC 7 and the twin towers could have collapsed in the manner that they did was by means of controlled demolition.


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Step by Step Demolition of The Kingdome in Seattle as detailed by Controlled Demoltion, INC on their website. See also their coffee table book on "how to" for building demolitions. (Research)

Here is the VIDEO

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TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-10   0:50:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: wudidiz (#0)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-10   0:54:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: yukon, WhiteSands, SOD, 22rifle, Marguerite, Sven Golly, Ua Deaghaidh, Perkunas, ALL EL PEE CFR WANNABES (#0)

I have a dream. In this dream, you pu**ies leave the comfy confines of your IsraelFirst website and wander into Freedom4um. Where you are broken down bit by byte, crushed and shredded. You people aren't worthy to carry Bill D Berger's nut sweat. You and goldi-sux deserve each other.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-10   0:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TwentyTwelve (#2)

"Ider you ah wid US..o you ah wid da terraists"

Ruby

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-10   0:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rotara (#4)

9/11 Building 7 Music Video

Written by Administrator Thursday, 15 March 2007

This website has been created to present a music video and information about some of the anomalies on 9/11, that still remain unanswered to this day.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-10   1:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: yukon, WhiteSands, SOD, 22rifle, Marguerite, Sven Golly, Ua Deaghaidh, Perkunas, ALL EL PEE CFR WANNABES (#3)

BE SURE AND CLICK ON CONTENTS AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE

WTC7.net the hidden story of Building 7: The Collapse of WTC ...
An investigation of WTC 7's collapse, evidence of controlled demolition.
www.wtc7.net/ - 7k - Cached -

An investigation of WTC 7's collapse, evidence of controlled demolition.

Building 7 was the third skyscraper to be reduced to rubble on September 11, 2001. According to the government, fires, primarily, leveled this building, but fires have never before or since destroyed a steel skyscraper.

The team that investigated the collapse were kept away from the crime scene. By the time they published their inconclusive report in May, 2002, the evidence had been destroyed.

Why did the government rapidly recycle the steel from the largest and most mysterious engineering failure in world history, and why has the media remained silent?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-10   1:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TwentyTwelve (#6)

Why did the government rapidly recycle the steel from the largest and most mysterious engineering failure in world history, and why has the media remained silent?

To hide the truth, of course. Same thing in Mt. Carmel (Waco): after the fire everything was bulldozed and "sanitized" without media overview. The media was equally silent there, too.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-02-10   1:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rotara (#0) (Edited)

Just like the Holocaust myth, if you tell a big lie often enough by so-called "reputable" people like, newscasters and leaders of state, then after a while those not inclined to question authority and think critically will believe it no matter how absurd the lie obviously is.

The Mars invasion radio broadcast proved to the elite that they could create their own reality with the majority of the people by controlling the media.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-02-10   1:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TwentyTwelve (#6)

Bodies in WTC 7: Jennings Interview Demolishes Official Version

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-10   1:20:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: RickyJ (#8)

FDNY Lieutenant Admitted Plan To 'Take Down' WTC 7

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-10   1:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Rotara (#9)

www.prisonplanet.com/arti...2007/270207bbcslammed.htm

BBC Slammed Over Pathetic Response to Building 7 Controversy

Prison Planet

Tuesday, February 27, 2007

The BBC are getting slammed by respondants to the head of BBC World News Richard Porter's pathetic attempt to dismiss questions about the Building 7 controversy, in which a BBC correspondent reported the collapse of WTC 7 before it happened on 9/11.

RELATED: BBC Responds to Building 7 Controversy; Claim 9/11 Tapes Lost

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-10   1:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rotara (#9)

www.prisonplanet.com/arti...y2007/280207timestamp.htm

Time Stamp Confirms BBC Reported WTC 7 Collapse 26 Minutes In Advance

Debunkers' claims about blue screens, inconclusive time frame of Jane Standley footage eviscerated

Paul Joseph Watson

Prison Planet

Wednesday, February 28, 2007

If there was any remaining doubt that the BBC reported the collapse of Building 7 over 20 minutes before it fell then it has now evaporated with the discovery of footage from the BBC's News 24 channel that shows the time stamp at 21:54 (4:54PM EST) when news of the Salomon Brothers Building is first broadcast, a full 26 minutes in advance of its collapse.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-10   1:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rotara (#9)

www.jonesreport.com/artic...07_bbc_lost_response.html

BOMBSHELL: 9/11 COVER-UP UNRAVELING

CNN, BBC 24 Reports Conclusively Prove Media Prior Knowledge and False-Start Scripting of Building 7 Controlled Demolition

Aaron Dykes and Alex Jones /Jones Report | February 27, 2007

It has now been discovered that BBC 24 also reported the Building 7 collapse before it fell. Furthermore, CNN’s Aaron Brown reported that Building 7 "has collapsed or is collapsing" over an hour before it fell.

These clips both reinforce the shocking, newly discovered BBC coverage wherein Jane Standley reports the collapse early-- with the building still standing behind her.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-10   1:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TwentyTwelve (#13)

FABLED ENEMIES - 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB - EMBRACE REALITY - SAVE AMERICA - VIDEO

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-10   1:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TwentyTwelve (#12)

Key Witness to WTC 7 Explosions Dead at 53

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-10   1:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rotara (#14)

tyrannyalert.com/800.html

LARRY SILVERSTEIN BUILT WTC7 AS A "BUILDING WITHIN A BUILDING"

''We built in enough redundancy to allow entire portions of floors to be removed without affecting the building's structural integrity..."

~ Larry Silverstein ~

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-10   1:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TwentyTwelve (#16)

Newly Found Archived Footage: New: Fox News 5 reports WTC 7 collapse BEFORE it happens

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-10   1:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Rotara (#17)

From ENRON, CHENEY, 9/11, LIVE HIJACKERS, & DEAD MICROBIOLOGISTS

1. WTC 7 housed the largest CIA station in the United States outside of Washington DC.

2. In addition to the CIA, WTC 7 also housed the NYC offices of the IRS, FBI, and SEC.

3. Many months later, a government source was quoted in the mainstream press saying that the records stored in these offices - including years of evidence files - were, for the most part, lost without backup. Evidence files that were part of active investigations into such things as organized crime, bank and securities fraud, money laundering, drug trafficking, terrorism. Congressman Tauzin was looking into records relating to Enron; now deleted. How unfortunate because it makes you wonder what these documents could tell us.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-10   1:53:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TwentyTwelve (#18)

1. WTC 7 housed the largest CIA station in the United States outside of Washington DC.

2. In addition to the CIA, WTC 7 also housed the NYC offices of the IRS, FBI, and SEC.

3. Many months later, a government source was quoted in the mainstream press saying that the records stored in these offices - including years of evidence files - were, for the most part, lost without backup. Evidence files that were part of active investigations into such things as organized crime, bank and securities fraud, money laundering, drug trafficking, terrorism. Congressman Tauzin was looking into records relating to Enron; now deleted. How unfortunate because it makes you wonder what these documents could tell us.

k00k !

(I know you miss that;-)

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-10   1:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rotara (#19)

k00k !

(I know you miss that;-)

Thank you.

I feel better now.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-10   2:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TwentyTwelve (#20)

Thank you.

I feel better now.

You're welcome. I do what I can..

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-10   2:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Rotara, TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, christine, Critter, noone222, Dakmar, Fred Mertz, FormerLurker, Itistoolate, IndieTX, SkyDrifter, yukon, WhiteSands, SOD, 22rifle, Marguerite, Sven Golly, Ua Deaghaidh, Perkunas, Byteshredder, E Type Jag (#3)

I'd like to see BumByter and E Type Fag come over here and try their antics.

They won't cuz they don't have the parts.


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"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2009-02-10   3:15:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: wudidiz, yukon, WhiteSands, SOD, 22rifle, Marguerite, Sven Golly, Ua Deaghaidh, Perkunas, Byteshredder, E Type Jag (#22)

yukon, WhiteSands, SOD, 22rifle, Marguerite, Sven Golly, Ua Deaghaidh, Perkunas, Byteshredder, E Type Jag I'd like to see BumByter and E Type Fag come over here and try their antics. They won't cuz they don't have the parts.

Please botshills, feel welcome and at home. ;-)



I am an Eunuch. I was castrated by a burdizzo clamp in 2001, and again in 2006.

Today I'm a calmer, more rational person. I'm also fatter, and probably less healthy. All in all, I'm happier for what I've been through. I think I've become a better person than I was before all this.

Today I understand a lot more about hormones than I used to; I have no doubt that my castration will probably shorten my life. But I know factually that it has improved the quality of my life. It's been a long, hard road, but it's well worth it to me.


Anyway I created this site to share information about the subject of human castration, and today's Eunuchs, with other people who are interested.



4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-10   3:28:21 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Rotara (#0)

Anyone who still believes these buildings weren't all brought down by demolition is a real dumbass.

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You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-02-10   8:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: IndieTX (#24)

God Bless The U.S. of Dumbasses.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-02-10   8:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Rotara (#0)

A fierce fire consumed all 44 floors of a skyscraper in Beijing today, shooting 30 foot flames into the air, but unlike the similarly-sized 47-story WTC 7, which suffered limited fires across just eight floors, the building in China did not collapse.

“The fire was burning from the ground floor to the top floor of the large building, the flames reflecting in the glass facade of the main CCTV tower next to the hotel and cultural center,” reports the New York Times.

Yeah, but the one in China wasn't consumed by Magickal Jet Fuel™ that can change properties at will and burn hotter than the sun.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-10   8:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Rotara (#19)

k00k !

(I know you miss that;-)

Yeah, can't we get BeALoser back to yell KOOK and democRAT at everyone who doesn't toe the party line? I am sure some folks are probably having bad withdrawals from not getting much of that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-10   9:19:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: wudidiz (#22)

BumByter and E Type Fag

LOL! Good one.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-10   9:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: James Deffenbach (#27)

Yeah, can't we get BeALoser back to yell KOOK and democRAT at everyone who doesn't toe the party line? I am sure some folks are probably having bad withdrawals from not getting much of that.

How's the tinfoil hat feeling, KooK ?! (I always loved that one)

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-10   10:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Rotara (#29)

How's the tinfoil hat feeling, KooK ?!

Ah, I feel much better now. Thank you very much.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-10   14:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: James Deffenbach (#30)

How's the tinfoil hat feeling, KooK ?!

Ah, I feel much better now. Thank you very much.

Don't mention it, public service is my middle name.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-10   14:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

Yeah, but the one in China wasn't consumed by Magickal Jet Fuel™ that can change properties at will and burn hotter than the sun.

LOL!

Yeah. All the dumb Chinese used was low grade Pixie Dust. Dumbasses. Everyone knows that doesn't burn worth shit. It's in the 9/11 Official Report somewhere, I'm sure. The Chinese should have read it. HIGH grade Pixie Dust is the scientific explanation for the destruction of Bldg 7.

But if they had combined that with the Magickal Jet Fuel, then danced around the Maypole thrice; TIMBERRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!

Man this is silly.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-02-10   14:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: PSUSA (#32)

LOL!

Yeah. All the dumb Chinese used was low grade Pixie Dust. Dumbasses. Everyone knows that doesn't burn worth shit. It's in the 9/11 Official Report somewhere, I'm sure. The Chinese should have read it. HIGH grade Pixie Dust is the scientific explanation for the destruction of Bldg 7.

But if they had combined that with the Magickal Jet Fuel, then danced around the Maypole thrice; TIMBERRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!

Man this is silly.

LOL! One of the best laughs I have had lately.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-10   15:10:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: James Deffenbach (#28)

BumByter and E Type Fag

LOL! Good one.

$10 CDN says you have 'em both on bozo.


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2009-02-10   16:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: wudidiz (#34)

$10 CDN says you have 'em both on bozo.

Send the money to my mama. ahaha. Seriously though, I would have to log in to be sure and since I am not planning to do that in the near future your money is probably safe.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-10   18:17:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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