Nadya Suleman has 14 children, including newborn octuplets. She has no job, no income and owes $50,000 in student loans.
Still, the 33-year-old Whittier woman said she's confident that she can afford to raise her huge family, insisting she can do it without welfare. In an interview Tuesday with NBC, she said she could use student loans to make ends meet until she finishes graduate school and gets a job.
But Suleman faces what are likely to be millions of dollars in medical bills alone, and it's increasingly likely that taxpayers will foot many of those bills.
Her family is eligible for large sums of public assistance money. Even before she gave birth to the octuplets Jan. 26, Suleman was receiving $490 in monthly food stamps, and three of her children were receiving federal supplemental security income because they are disabled.
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Title: Octuplets could be costly for taxpayers
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URL Source: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ ... ets11-2009feb11,0,583052.story
Published: Feb 11, 2009
Author: Kimi Yoshino and Jessica Garrison
Post Date: 2009-02-11 20:40:48 by Disgusted
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digg_title = 'Octuplets could be costly for taxpayers'; digg_bodytext = 'Nadya Suleman has 14 children, including newborn octuplets. She has no job, no income and owes $50,000 in student loans.'; Maliyah, one of Nadya Suleman's octuplets. (NBC NEWS) Octuplets could be costly for taxpayers
As a single parent with no income, Nadya Suleman could receive thousands of dollars a month in government assistance. And the Medi-Cal bill for her newborns is mounting.
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#1. To: Disgusted, farmfriend, OliviaFNewton, Horse (#0)
And how lucky California taxpayers are because this baby machine lady and her boyfriend-sperm donor, David Solomon, conceived and bore their 14 offspring in California. Whee!
Lowell Kepke, a spokesman for the San Francisco office of the Social Security Administration, said that a single parent with no income qualifies for up to $793 a month for each child with a physical or mental condition that results in "marked or severe functional limitations." That money is used for support and maintenance of the family, and Suleman would not be required to specifically account for how it is spent. If Suleman's disabled children received the maximum payment, she would get nearly $2,900 a month in state and federal assistance, including the food stamps. Suleman's octuplets qualify for Medi-Cal, California's healthcare program for the poor. Three sources told The Times that Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Bellflower had requested reimbursement for care of the eight premature infants. Reimbursement rates for the octuplets were not immediately available. However, 2007 records show that Southern California hospitals received an average of $1,198 per day, per patient. Tony Cava, a spokesman for the California Department of Health Care Services, said that for a baby in a hospital's neonatal intensive care unit, that amount would probably increase. Using the 2007 average as a low estimate, Kaiser would be eligible for a combined $9,584 per day in Medi-Cal reimbursement. The babies, who are 16 days old, have already racked up a conservative $153,344 in Medi-Cal costs, not including their delivery. Kaiser doctors have said they will remain hospitalized for seven to 12 weeks. If they stay for seven weeks, the cost would be $469,616. If they stay 12 weeks, the cost would be $805,056. Kaiser gathered 46 doctors, nurses and other medical professionals together to perform the delivery. It's unclear how much that cost and who will pay. Suleman told NBC that she planned to go back to Cal State Fullerton, where she is earning a master's degree in counseling. Once she receives the degree, she said, she will get a job and be able to financially support the children. Suleman used to work as a psychiatric technician at Metropolitan State Hospital, where she suffered an injury in 1999. During a riot involving 20 people, a patient overturned a heavy wooden desk on her back. After the incident, Suleman only briefly returned to work and she continued to experience ongoing back problems from a herniated disc. Between 2000 and 2008, she received $169,353 in temporary disability payments, a workers' compensation spokeswoman said. Her workers' compensation file, obtained by The Times, indicates that a doctor hired by the state to evaluate her believes she is now eligible for permanent disability. The state stopped making temporary disability payments Aug. 28. But the records show that she would receive payment for permanent disability. State officials said no determination has been made yet about the amount or duration of her payments. Suleman insisted to NBC's Ann Curry in an interview taped Tuesday that she's not seeking a public handout. "I'm not living off any taxpayer money," she said. "If I am, if it's food stamps, it's a temporary resource. And I was so reluctant. I very much so look forward to the day when I am not getting any kind of help with food stamps, which I believe will end when I graduate in about a year or year and a half." Suleman also said she hopes that two of her children will soon no longer be disabled. She said she has $50,000 in student loans that she will eventually have to repay. Suleman also bristled at suggestions made by some commentators that she was being irresponsible for having so many children with no income or partner to help raise them. "No. I am not being selfish. . . . If I were just sitting down watching TV and not being as determined as I am to succeed and provide a better future for my children, I believe that would be considered to a certain degree selfish," she said. Suleman said she was married once. But the relationship ended when she realized "that I wasn't in love at all with him. I was in love with having children." Suleman's ex-husband, Marcos Gutierrez, a produce manager at a salad company, declined to comment extensively about his ex-wife but said she's a good person. "Nadya, she is a person with a great heart. . . . She's a nice person, with great love for her kids. That's all I have to say," he said. Meanwhile, medical experts continued to question Dr. Michael Kamrava, the fertility specialist believed to have treated Suleman. Although she did not mention him directly, she named his West Coast IVF Clinic in Beverly Hills as the place where she sought treatment. Dr. R. Dale McClure, president of the American Society of Reproductive Medicine, said the association has contacted both Suleman and Kamrava to learn more about the circumstances leading to her pregnancy. "Only when we obtain and evaluate such information will we be able to determine an appropriate course of action," McClure said. As for Suleman, she told NBC that she doesn't plan any more children. "100%. 200, 300 400%. Yes, done," she said.
She is a loon.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" As far as I'm concerned the Dr. should be responsible for their support. I wonder if Californians can use this case to file a class action suit against Suleman and seek to have his license revoked. If the doc were responsible for these kids welfare, he might think twice from this sick experimentation. Both of them are whack jobs.
Let me put it into context Americans forced South Africans to accept a black president to cleanse its white guilt ...now you get to deal with it turn about is fair play...your other argument not with standing Total and complete loon, my early nominee for AmeriKan Parasite of the Year 2009. I wonder how many of the brood were named obama or hussein or barack ?
4um Traitor Wrong. It's the fault of our litigious society as well as our female gender minority friendly legal system. Consider what would have happened to the physician in question if he refused to do what Ms. Suleman asked. Not too long ago a fertility clinic in California had its ass sued for refusing to impregnate a lesbian mother because of its sexist homophobic medical judgment call. www.huffingtonpost.com/20...octuplets-m_n_162756.html Some cut and paste: ...Angela Suleman said her daughter always had trouble conceiving and underwent in vitro fertilization treatments because her fallopian tubes are "plugged up." There were frozen embryos left over after her previous pregnancies and her daughter didn't want them destroyed, so she decided to have more children. Her mother and doctors have said the woman was told she had the option to abort some of the embryos and, later, the fetuses. She refused. ...Angela Suleman told reporters Friday that doctors implanted far fewer than eight embryos, but they multiplied. Experts said this could be possible since Nadya Suleman's system has likely been hyperstimulated for years with fertilization treatments and drugs.
Her ovaries should be ripped out and the kids taken away and given to people who aren't insane.
I concur, this dizzy broad is at the top of the list for forced sterilization. Paging Dr. Mengele, paging Dr. Mengele....
_________________________________________________________________________ IMO, he should've taken it to court before he implanted the eggs. I still think there is a part missing to the story here.
Let me put it into context Americans forced South Africans to accept a black president to cleanse its white guilt ...now you get to deal with it turn about is fair play...your other argument not with standing They had mostly Old Testament Biblical first names with Angel as middle name. I posted an article with this info approx 2 days ago. The boyfriend-sperm donor's name is David Solomon. On the birth certificates she has listed his home address as Israel and California. According to a blog commenting on this woman's ethnicity [for what it's worth]... "The family name "Suleman" might come from "Suliman" or "Solomon" the son of "David".. And according to Jewish Tradition, the "Mashiach," or Messiah will ultimately come from the descendants of David..." But her father says he's going back to work as a translator contractor in Iraq. Go figure.
Where's this dumb (deleted) coming up with the massive amounts of Dough Ray Me for fertilization services ? Once she proves to the Doc that she can pay she's off to the races..
4um Traitor Just whacky. Whacktacular if you will.
4um Traitor I read somewhere or there that she was being paid to guinea up. Just to 'see' if this would work. Nothing mentioned about who would support the babies if or after they were born. I suspect it was already known that the taxpayers would be forced to pick up the tab. Once she proves to the Doc that she can pay she's off to the races.. Saw him on the tube and he doesn't look like he's in the business of charity cases. Soo.... I ask you is this askew to you too?
Let me put it into context Americans forced South Africans to accept a black president to cleanse its white guilt ...now you get to deal with it turn about is fair play...your other argument not with standing Did you happen to notice the fish pout on that face of hers? Her lips looked normal in earlier pics with her first or second set of kids.. next thing you know she found Nemo.
Let me put it into context Americans forced South Africans to accept a black president to cleanse its white guilt ...now you get to deal with it turn about is fair play...your other argument not with standing Well, if Mr. Soloman funded this mess to begin with then Mr. Soloman of Israel should be forced to pony up for the Forced Pregnancy Gone Wild. ;-)
4um Traitor Exactly. My question is, what else is he up to?
Let me put it into context Americans forced South Africans to accept a black president to cleanse its white guilt ...now you get to deal with it turn about is fair play...your other argument not with standing Yep. Plastic surgery on her nose too. Aspiring to look like the Perfect Mother of the Cast of Thousands ie. Angela Jolie.
This is really very tragic. The woman sick. I feel sorry for the kids.
Let me put it into context Americans forced South Africans to accept a black president to cleanse its white guilt ...now you get to deal with it turn about is fair play...your other argument not with standing Why? They'll be well cared for by nannies thanks to CA taxpayers and the $ 2 Million book deal that Suleman and HER PUBLICIST are currently negotiating with Oprah.
That makes it even worse. A nutbar for a mom, mad scientist for a dad, strangers as caregivers. They're props. Sad.
Let me put it into context Americans forced South Africans to accept a black president to cleanse its white guilt ...now you get to deal with it turn about is fair play...your other argument not with standing Her family is eligible for large sums of public assistance money. Even before she gave birth to the octuplets Jan. 26, Suleman was receiving $490 in monthly food stamps, and three of her children were receiving federal supplemental security income because they are disabled.
#2. To: All (#0)
#3. To: Disgusted (#2)
where she is earning a master's degree in counseling. Once she receives the degree, she said, she will get a job and be able to financially support the children.
#4. To: scrapper2 (#1)
And how lucky California taxpayers are because this baby machine lady and her boyfriend-sperm donor, David Solomon, conceived and bore their 14 offspring in California. Whee!
robnoel posted on 2008-10-29 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=89777&Disp=120#C120
#5. To: tom007 (#3)
She is a loon.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#6. To: OliviaFNewton (#4)
As far as I'm concerned the Dr. should be responsible for their support
#7. To: Disgusted (#0)
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#8. To: Turtle (#7)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#9. To: scrapper2 (#6)
Wrong. It's the fault of our litigious society as well as our female gender minority friendly legal system.
robnoel posted on 2008-10-29 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=89777&Disp=120#C120
#10. To: Rotara (#5)
I wonder how many of the brood were named obama or hussein or barack ?
#11. To: OliviaFNewton (#9)
IMO, he should've taken it to court before he implanted the eggs. I still think there is a part missing to the story here.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#12. To: scrapper2 (#10)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#13. To: Rotara (#11)
Where's this dumb (deleted) coming up with the massive amounts of Dough Ray Me for fertilization services ?
robnoel posted on 2008-10-29 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=89777&Disp=120#C120
#14. To: scrapper2 (#10)
robnoel posted on 2008-10-29 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=89777&Disp=120#C120
#15. To: OliviaFNewton (#13)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#16. To: Rotara (#15)
Well, if Mr. Soloman funded this mess to begin with then Mr. Soloman of Israel should be forced to pony up for the Forced Pregnancy Gone Wild. ;-)
robnoel posted on 2008-10-29 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=89777&Disp=120#C120
#17. To: OliviaFNewton (#14)
Did you happen to notice the fish pout on that face of hers? Her lips looked normal in earlier pics with her first or second set of kids.. next thing you know she found Nemo.
#18. To: scrapper2 (#17)
Yep. Plastic surgery on her nose too. Aspiring to look like the Perfect Mother of the Cast of Thousands ie. Angela Jolie.
robnoel posted on 2008-10-29 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=89777&Disp=120#C120
#19. To: OliviaFNewton (#18)
I feel sorry for the kids.
#20. To: scrapper2 (#19)
Why? They'll be well cared for by nannies thanks to CA taxpayers and the $ 2 Million book deal that Suleman and HER PUBLICIST are currently negotiating with Oprah.
robnoel posted on 2008-10-29 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=89777&Disp=120#C120
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