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Title: Dresden
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Published: Feb 13, 2009
Author: Dees
Post Date: 2009-02-13 10:14:52 by Itistoolate
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#19. To: Turtle, tom007 (#18)

Surely tom007 will come up with a photo of this cardboard cabin to be!

Diana  posted on  2009-02-13   19:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Diana, tom007, James Deffenbach, Cynicom (#19)

Surely tom007 will come up with a photo of this cardboard cabin to be!

He has learned his lesson not to make fun of Turtle since I flogged him and the other Buckwheat bellhops with my Brain.All are now appropriately cowed.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-13   20:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: wudidiz (#8)

That was an interesting article.

The articles, and other things, makes me wonder if the wrong people won that war, and what this world would be like if Hitler had won. So much history is BS that it's hard to tell fact from deliberate lies.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-02-13   20:08:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: PSUSA (#21)

would be like if Hitler had won

We should have stayed out of the war, and at least supported the Germans against the Jewish Bolshevists of Russia.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-13   20:14:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: PSUSA (#21)

and what this world would be like if Hitler had won. So much history is BS that it's hard to tell fact from deliberate lies.

Don't wonder, read "Mien Kampf"(sp)(My Struggle, Hitler's own blueprint for the future of Germany with him as their Supreme Leader.

The German race was to rule the world, and the rest of the races were to be their slaves, in short.

No informed person can have any question about what the NAZI's were about. Gangsterism is really what they were - and the fact they managed to swindle the German people into supporting them is a frightening note for our times.

This is what God wanted, naturally.

Why God couldn't make it so and needed Hitler is never satisfactorily explained, at least to me.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-13   21:06:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Turtle (#20)

He has learned his lesson not to make fun of Turtle since I flogged him and the other Buckwheat bellhops with my Brain.

I can't imagine a flogging with two brain cells could bother anyone much. ahaha.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-13   21:16:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Diana, turtle, cynicom (#19)

Be sure ya'll stop by the store and pick up something nice for Diana.

Cause this what happened to Turtle's last wife.

And Diana be sure Turtle has the wedding reception on his party barge.

And I know you, Diana, will enjoy a lot of informative political discussions with Turtle's family.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-13   21:20:55 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Turtle (#22)

We should have stayed out of the war, and at least supported the Germans against the Jewish Bolshevists of Russia.

Nah, what we should have done is minded our own business. Same with WWI--if we hadn't gotten involved in that bs there would have been no WWII. What difference did it make to the United States that Archduke Ferdinand of Austria was assassinated? How many people in the US knew or cared who he was or even where or what Austria was? I doubt many could have found it on a map and doubt many could today. And it is a pretty sure bet that when they started yammering about the good Archduke the people in the US scratched their heads and said, "Who?"

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-13   21:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: tom007 (#25)

LOL!!!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-13   21:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

nd it is a pretty sure bet that when they started yammering about the good Archduke the people in the US scratched their heads and said, "Who?"

Quite actually that was the response of most people in Europe.

To explain, the assassination has become, by quirks of reportage, became the start of WW1. The act was just a small spark that ignited what was already really ignited anyway.

Nobody cared about the Archduke anyway, certainly not Carl Franz who denied him a royal funeral, as well as a decent one.

But it gave a fig leaf of cover for Austria to do what it was going to do anyway - punish the Serbian nationalists disrupting the Hapsburg's hegemony in their empire, which was falling apart.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-13   21:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: James Deffenbach (#27)

tried to ping you but I can't spell your name.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-13   21:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Diana (#19)

Steer clear of his uncle tho, he looks OK, but....well lets just say there are some issues better left undiscussed.

(don't let him convince you he is an accredited mid wife)

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-13   21:43:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Diana (#19)

Another suggestion, Diana, don't allow yourself to be treated like this, as was Turtle's X wife Elise.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-13   21:54:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Diana (#15)

And you know he's going to have you go deer hunting with him.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-13   21:56:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: tom007, James Deffenbach (#23)

Don't wonder, read "Mien Kampf"(sp)(My Struggle, Hitler's own blueprint for the future of Germany with him as their Supreme Leader.

tom...

Just observations...

Germany did not occupy more than half of France. The only resistance in France was the FLN (communists). Dozens of German and French photos show Hitler touring Paris and not a weapon in sight.

Hitler wanted to demolish the Vatican, the army said no. Hitler wanted to use gas and the military said no. Germany had troop contingents from all the Western countries.

Hitler and many Germans hoped that England would stand down, withdraw from the war but world Jewry knew what that meant, the death of communism, once again Britain and the US had to be forced to fight to save communism.

Hitler as the last gasp effort denuded the Eastern front and tried to eliminate the Wesrern front and failed.

Just observations.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-13   21:57:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#31)

And may as well meet the neighbors......... They are big into "Family Values".

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-13   21:58:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#33)

Thanks C, seems you lived through it.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-13   22:00:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: All (#34)

And everybody loves the family get togethers on the weekends. Uncle Earl is the event organizer, so be sure to smooze up to him.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-13   22:04:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: All (#36)

Yes I know.

From Dresden to this.

It's Turtles fault.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-13   22:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: All (#37)

Turtle's going all out on the wedding cake.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-13   22:14:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: tom007 (#32) (Edited)

That's a Boys Anti Tank Rifle!

*war says* "The marines are tough! I know because I asked em!"Photobucket

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-02-13   22:21:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: PSUSA (#21)

That was an interesting article.

The articles, and other things, makes me wonder if the wrong people won that war, and what this world would be like if Hitler had won. So much history is BS that it's hard to tell fact from deliberate lies.

This is the first I've learned about this part of WWII.

Of course we can only guess what it would have been like if Hitler had won.

It's hard to know what happened without being there, but if some of the bullshit that we're taught about what's going on now like the JFK assassination, OKC bombing, 9/11etc. are an indication then we can be sure that what we're taught about what happened then is as much if not more BS.


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2009-02-13   23:23:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: PSUSA (#1)

Hardly anyone knows about this. Probably because it wasn't "jews" that died.

Actually there were probably many Jews there that died. Churchill is burning in hell right now, right with his good buddy Roosevelt.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-02-13   23:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: wudidiz, tom007, Turtle (#40)

Of course we can only guess what it would have been like if Hitler had won.

Hitler would not have won the Final Battle against Uncle Joe and the Bolshevik-NKVD mass murderers.

Nor would Uncle Joe have been the victor.

IF Communist sympathizer, FDR, along with his Zionist advisers, had stayed on the side-lines of the war merely supplying Stalin on the QT to help him continue fighting the Naziis, then Hitler and Stalin would have fought each other to a draw and their own peoples would have over thrown both totalitarian strong men, and their despicable coterie.

The world would have ended up being a much better place as a result.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-14   1:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: tom007 (#23)

Don't wonder, read "Mien Kampf"(sp)(My Struggle, Hitler's own blueprint for the future of Germany with him as their Supreme Leader.

I have it already. I got it to only read the chapter on war propaganda and skimmed thru the rest. I suppose I should read the rest of it, but that chapter on propaganda was an eye opener.

No informed person can have any question about what the NAZI's were about. Gangsterism is really what they were - and the fact they managed to swindle the German people into supporting them is a frightening note for our times.

I suppose it depends on who does the "informing".

Everything I learned about history in school was shallow crap. Sheeple feed. The deeper I dig the more rotten it gets.

So, who to believe?

Why God couldn't make it so and needed Hitler is never satisfactorily explained, at least to me.

I dont understand the question.

Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

PSUSA  posted on  2009-02-14   7:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: wudidiz (#40)

Of course we can only guess what it would have been like if Hitler had won.

It's hard to know what happened without being there, but if some of the bullshit that we're taught about what's going on now like the JFK assassination, OKC bombing, 9/11etc. are an indication then we can be sure that what we're taught about what happened then is as much if not more BS.

Yeah, tell me about it...

I dont see Hitler as a "good guy". From his service in WW1 he was brave. But I think he was nuts. He had a good grasp of the problems but his solutions destroyed the Germans.

Click for Privacy and Preparedness files

PSUSA  posted on  2009-02-14   7:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: tom007, Diana, James Deffenbach, Cynicom (#25)

I see the Buckwheats still have not learned their lesson to treat Turtle with the appropriate respect that is His due.

If any of you make fun of Turtle ever again, or his Brain, or any of his Organs, whether major or minor, Turtle will visit on you humiliations galore.

Turtle can, with just a blink of his Brain, make your junk disappear, not that it would that hard, since all of you suffer from microjunk anyway, and probably haven't used it for decades, except for self-abuse to the point of idiocy!

Turtle has spoken. Ya'll better listen!

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-14   8:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: PSUSA (#43)

I suppose I should read the rest of it, but that chapter on propaganda was an eye opener.

It is a awful read. One interesting thing is that Hitler, smartly, would not allow the book to be translated into any other language. He knew exactly what the response would be.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-14   10:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: PSUSA (#43)

Why God couldn't make it so and needed Hitler is never satisfactorily explained, at least to me.

I dont understand the question.

Why, if God really planned for the German race to rule the world, God needed Hitler to make it so.

He is roumored to be a bit more powerful than man, creating the universe in a few days etc.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-14   10:11:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: PSUSA (#43)

Everything I learned about history in school was shallow crap. Sheeple feed.

Nation building myths designed to program willing cannon fodder.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-02-14   10:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: tom007 (#47)

OK, I get it,

There will only be 1 world "dictator", and He hasn't come back yet. It'll be the only benevolent 'dictatorship" in history.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-02-14   10:30:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: tom007 (#30)

(don't let him convince you he is an accredited mid wife)

Or, as Archie Bunker used to say, a "groinecologist." ahaha.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-14   10:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Turtle (#45)

Turtle can, with just a blink of his Brain

have a blinding headache. And an actual thought would bust his head. LOL!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-14   10:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: PSUSA (#44)

I dont see Hitler as a "good guy". From his service in WW1 he was brave. But I think he was nuts. He had a good grasp of the problems but his solutions destroyed the Germans.

I have rarely if ever thought of Hitler as a good guy. Some people do see it that way which makes me wonder. Mostly I guess he was just a puppet like all the rest. Was there ever a head of State that wasn't?


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2009-02-14   13:08:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: scrapper2 (#42)

Thank you.


"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz  posted on  2009-02-14   13:11:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: wudidiz (#53)

Thank you.

Pat Buchanan says something similar albeit with greater historical detail for support in his latest book "Churchill, Hitler, and "The Unnecessary War": How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World."

Some cut and paste from a reviewer on Amazon:

"...The Second World War came about, Buchanan believes, as a result of Britain's disastrous guarantee to protect Poland (which it was incapable of doing anyway). Hitler did not want war with Britain, as evidenced by the fact that he never attempted to build a strong navy. If Germany had moved east and had the democracies not intervened, Buchanan opines, Germany would have run into the Soviet Union and the result would have been a Nazi-Soviet war that the democracies would have watched from the sidelines. The totalitarian nations would have pounded each other to death, while the democracies would have had a chance to rearm and become stronger relative to a decimated Germany and a decimated Russia (and China might not have gone Communist, meaning that millions might not have been murdered there)..."

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-14   13:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: James Deffenbach (#51)

And an actual thought would bust his head. LOL!

If Turtle was to send out the tiniest of his Thoughts toward you, your head would blow up like an apple with a stick of dynamite in it.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-14   14:02:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Turtle, Cynicom, tom007 (#55)

If Turtle was to send out the tiniest of his Thoughts toward you

If Turtle actually HAD a "tiny thought" or even a miniscule one or anything in between he would declare it a red letter day and ask someone to petition the government for a national holiday. And you know daz rat!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-14   15:36:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: tom007, Diana (#32)

The only thing this particular Buckwheat bellhop got right is Turtle's anti-tank rifle.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-17   7:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: All (#0)

judicial-inc.biz/810dresden_primary.htm

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-02-23   20:05:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Itistoolate (#0)

I've got a 2007/2008 A. Lange & Sohne watch catalog that features quite a few pre-war pictures of Dresden, it was a breathtakingly beautiful city. I'd give anything to go back in time and prevent the destruction of Dresden and the post- war looting of the remains by the communists.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

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X-15  posted on  2009-02-23   20:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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