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Title: Has Washington Run Out of Patience with Hamid Karzai?
Source: SpyTalk blog
URL Source: http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk ... ashington-run-out-of-pati.html
Published: Feb 13, 2009
Author: Jeff Stein
Post Date: 2009-02-13 17:26:55 by scrapper2
Keywords: Karzai in WH, Afghanistan quagmire, Karzai=Ngo Dinh Diem?, Vietnam Redux
Views: 200
Comments: 7

The grumbling about Afghan President Hamid Karzai has grown so loud you'd think the Obama administration has given up on him.

Indeed, you could almost hear the knees knocking in Karzai's embassy here when incoming Obama officials met privately during inauguration week with at least two Afghan politicians who would like to replace the president.

With the war going badly, criticism has grown of Karzai's seeming tolerance of endemic corruption in his government, which threatens to turn Afghanistan into a narco-state, if not grease the return of the Taliban to power.

Could his days be numbered?

Karzai hasn't hesitated to fire back, especially about casualties from U.S. airstrikes on Afghan villages, going so far as to threaten an alliance with the Russians, of all people.

If such discord sounds ominous, it may be because it's redolent of the acrimony between Washington and its South Vietnamese ally, Ngo Dinh Diem, amid another U.S.backed counterinsurgency war in the summer of 1963. A few months later, a U.S.-backed cabal of generals overthrew - and murdered - him and his brother.

"There clearly is an increased tempo in the press commentary from government sources about general dissatisfaction about his performance," acknowledges a former practitioner of U.S. covert action.

Karzai and his circle also sense which way the wind is blowing, said an official familiar with their thinking.

"There are many, many political rumors swirling in Kabul right now," said this official. "There is plenty of jockeying taking place between people looking to challenge Karzai, and many of them have made overtures to the Obama administration."

It's well understood in Kabul, he added, that "some U.S. officials think that replacing an individual will somehow remedy Afghanistan's many problems. The troubles we see in Afghanistan today are the fault of both the Afghan government and its international partners, and no number of individuals - no matter how qualified - will be able to tackle them alone."

"Pushing him out," agreed the covert action veteran, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because he did not want to attract the attention of his former employer, "won't solve the corruption problem, and in fact may increase instability."

In any event, he added, "any new administration should not move quickly to promote regime change until they get their sea legs."

But journalist and author Peter Bergen cautioned that criticism of Karzai "is not new... dissatisfaction with Karzai has been going on a long time."

National elections, now scheduled for August, provides "a mechanism for him to disappear" if Washington grows completely disillusioned -- and has an alternative candidate, added Bergen, author of "Holy War, Inc." and other books on Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.

But "let's say Washington decides to get rid of him," Bergen added, "Who fills his shoes?"

There's a handful of pretenders to the presidential office, he said, ticking off the names of former ministers in the Kabul government. But none have the national following of Karzai, scion of a prominent Pashtun tribe.

Any non-Pashtuns need not apply.

"You can't run the country if you're not a Pashtun," who amount to 40 per cent of the population, Bergen said.

Catapulting an ethnic minority into power would invite a "catastrophe," he predicted, far worse than the Iraq insurgency that grew out of Sunnis being displaced by the U.S. invasion and shut out of power by the Shiites.

For those and other reasons, "I don't think anyone's trying to push Karzai out," says Gary Berntsen, who led one of the first CIA teams into Afghanistan and rallied its tribes against the Taliban. He spent another year there during 2007-2008.

The CIA would "absolutely not" back a coup d'état, at least not under the present conditions, Berntsen said.

"A lot of Afghans still rally around him."


Poster Comment:

About Jeff Stein: CQ National Security Editor and SpyTalk columnist, is an investigative reporter of long standing in Washington, specializing in U.S. intelligence, defense and foreign policy issues. An Army Intelligence case officer in Vietnam, Stein has authored three highly regarded books and has been a frequent contributor to periodicals ranging from Esquire,Vanity Fair, GQ and Playboy to The New Republic, The Nation and the Christian Science Monitor.

Karzai better hire his own body guards, and fire the ones currently assigned to him by the DOD. When ex-CIA, Gary Bertsen, says the following: "The CIA would "absolutely not" back a coup d'état, at least not under the present conditions", Karzai might want to consider the opposite to be true.

This entire Afghanistan military venture is such B.S. anyways. Let's send the neocons and neolibs there to fight the good fight and help rid America of the self-serving war mongers.

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#1. To: Sarajevo, HOUNDDAWG, christine, Jethro Tull (#0)

Fyi.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-13   17:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: scrapper2 (#1)

Obama meets with Karzai, a leader he's criticized

Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama met Sunday with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, a man Obama has chided for not doing enough to rebuild his war-torn country.

Obama and Karzai held talks and lunched together at the presidential palace in Kabul. Karzai's office released video showing the two men seated in front of a marble fireplace, chatting and smiling. They made no public comment.

Obama has made Afghanistan, where Taliban and al-Qaida-linked militants are resurgent, a centerpiece of his proposed strategy for dealing with terror threats. The candidate has said the war in Afghanistan deserves more troops and more attention as opposed to the conflict in Iraq.

Earlier in the day during breakfast with soldiers at Camp Eggers, a heavily fortified military base in the city, Obama praised the U.S. troops.

"To see young people like this who are doing such excellent work, with so much dedication ... it makes you feel good about the country," Obama said.

"I want to make sure that everybody back home understands how much pride people take in their work here and how much sacrifice people are making. It is outstanding," he said in video footage from the military obtained by The Associated Press.

Lt. Col. Dave Johnson, a U.S. military spokesman, said Obama and other visiting senators met with many soldiers and sailors from their respective constituencies.

While officially a part of a congressional delegation on a fact-finding tour also expected to take him to Iraq, Obama was traveling in Afghanistan amid the publicity and scrutiny accorded a likely Democratic nominee for president rather than a senator from Illinois. Security was tight and media access to Obama was limited by his campaign.

Traveling with Obama were Sens. Chuck Hagel, a Nebraska Republican, and Jack Reed, a Democrat from Rhode Island. Both are military veterans and have been mentioned as potential Obama vice presidential running mates, although Reed has said he is not interested in the job and Hagel would be an unlikely cross-party choice.

Obama and others in the delegation received a briefing Saturday inside the U.S. base in Jalalabad from the Afghan provincial governor of Nangarhar, Gul Agha Sherzai, a no-nonsense, bullish former warlord.

"Obama promised us that if he becomes a president in the future, he will support and help Afghanistan not only in its security sector but also in reconstruction, development and economic sector," Sherzai told The Associated Press.

The area where the meeting took place is not far from where Osama bin Laden escaped U.S. troops in 2001 after his al-Qaida network led the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Obama's first overseas tour since securing the Democratic nomination _ he is scheduled to travel to Europe through next week _ could be key to honing his foreign policy strategy with less than four months before the election. His rival for the presidency, Republican Sen. John McCain, has criticized Obama for not spending more time in the region.

The delegation has also met with military leaders and troops at Bagram Air Field, the main U.S. military base north of the capital, and Jalalabad Air Field in Nangarhar province.

Obama advocates ending the U.S. combat role in Iraq by withdrawing troops at the rate of one to two combat brigades a month while increasing the military commitment to Afghanistan. Obama has proposed sending two more combat brigades _ about 7,000 troops _ to Afghanistan. McCain is also advocating sending more forces to the war-battered country.

U.S. military officials say the number of attacks in eastern Afghanistan, where most of the U.S. forces in the country operate, has gone up by 40 percent so far in 2008, compared to the same period in 2007.

Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, told The Associated Press on Saturday that after intense U.S. assaults there, al-Qaida may be considering shifting focus to its original home base in Afghanistan, where American casualties are recently running higher than in Iraq.

Obama has also expressed weariness with the efforts by Afghanistan's neighbor Pakistan to go after militants in its territory. That frustration may strike a chord with Karzai, who has accused Pakistan's intelligence service of supporting the Taliban insurgency _ claims that Pakistan denies.

But Obama has also criticized Karzai and his government, saying it had "not gotten out of the bunker" and helped to organize the country or its political and security institutions.

Karzai is gone and Afghanistan will be Obama's Vietnam - and the Os will remain silent as our dopey kids march off to another unconstitutional war.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-02-13   17:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull, Christine, Diana, All (#2)

I suspect the reality is more that Karzai doubts America. We've abandoned too many 'allies,' before. Just a guess.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2009-02-13   18:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: scrapper2 (#0)

A normal country undergoing an economic collapse would immmediately stop all the intrigue abroad and focus TOTALLY on the home front until things were stabilized.

But I do not live in a normal country. It is a rogue empire run by military-industrial-narco terrorists.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-02-13   18:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: SKYDRIFTER, Scrapper2, all (#3)

LINK

Check out this link I stumbled across while looking more closely into this Afghanistan mess. Lots of great links.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-02-13   19:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

Thanks, JT. It looks great!

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-13   19:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: scrapper2 (#0)

Karzai hasn't hesitated to fire back, especially about casualties from U.S. airstrikes on Afghan villages, going so far as to threaten an alliance with the Russians, of all people.

Karzai is powerless outside of Kabul, and his power in Kabul is questionable. He is alive due to his bodyguards keeping him so.

Sarajevo  posted on  2009-02-15   21:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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