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Title: Holocaust Conditioning
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URL Source: http://jezekiah.wordpress.com/2009/02/14/holocaust-conditioning/
Published: Feb 14, 2009
Author: jezekiah
Post Date: 2009-02-14 18:21:06 by bluegrass
Ping List: *New History*
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For many (or some) of us that were subject to intensive Holocaust conditioning as kids in American public schools, we saw films of hundreds and thousands of piled bodies from old WWII footage a few times a year - year in, year out. We were told they were Jews that had been murdered, gassed mostly, by the Nazis. I recall seeing my first one of these films in the early 1970's when I was about nine or ten years old. It went on for my entire education in the Boston area and then in high school in Columbia, Md. when my family had moved. In 1978 when the NBC television miniseries "Holocaust" was required watching for my social studies class, it seemed perfectly natural that we were expected to sit through four nights of television that even Elie Wiesel called "untrue, offensive, cheap." As a kid, I always felt a little sledgehammered after being subjected to those movies in the darkened classroom, surrounded by my fellow students with the teacher sitting in the back to keep an eye on us to make sure we didn't fool around or otherwise be distracted from the Important Information that was being injected into our still-forming minds. Dark rooms under veil of authority are very conducive to making certain that attention is given to what's to be taken in. What was being funneled into our brains was a steady diet of grainy black and white movies of Jews being herded through towns like cattle, bodies being bulldozed into pits, mass trench shootings, prisoners that looked like the walking dead, emaciated corpses piled like firewood. If you had a similar experience in school, you know of what I speak. Then there was usually some kind of after-lesson given by the teacher when we were at our most traumatized. Bad Nazis. Nice teacher. And we all took it in, without question. Six million Jews died in gas chambers, were made into soap, burned in ovens. Four million Jews died in Auschwitz. Nazis made lampshades out of Jewish skin. Gas chambers in Germany. And thus was the core of my childhood education of the Holocaust. I never questioned what I'd been taught. I had no reason to. Leaving any idea of academia behind in 1980 when high school was over, I went along with my merry little life and to be honest, I didn't think much about the Holocaust again. That changed for me in the late 1990's when I learned, via the internet and my own research afterwards, that the number of dead at Auschwitz had been revised downward from four million to one million, but the overall six million Jewish dead still stood as gospel. Or maybe five million as of now. It was six million no questions asked when I was a kid. Anyway, over time I also learned that the soap stories had been deprecated, Jews hadn't been made into lampshades after all and there hadn't really been any gas chambers on German soil. Having to unlearn this new information was coupled with learning that people were being charged with and going to jail for having the wrong opinion about history when it came to the Holocaust by publicly stating that there was no evidence for mass exterminations of Jews by gas chamber. Frankly, life was easier before the blinders came off. What had all of these people done to the Holocaust stories of my youth? .... We all know what a gas chamber is. It can be defined. We know them from 1930's gangster flicks, Perry Mason shows, etc. For better or worse, gas chambers have been a meme for decades, even before World War Two. The first person executed by gas chamber in the US was a native born Chinese named Gee Jon in 1924. The last person executed by gas chamber in the US was in 1999, a German national named Walter LaGrand. Life's funny like that. It's difficult to find a hard and fast definition of the term holocaust denial, though the term is used on a daily basis in the international media. As an aside that might have meaning or not, a google search for gas chamber yields fewer results than a google search for holocaust denial. I'll leave it to the reader to pull that one apart. So is there evidence of mass extermination of Jews by gas chamber? There's much eyewitness and anecdotal evidence. There's Yankel Wiernik's "A Year In Treblinka", published in 1945. In it, he claims that 1200 people were put into rooms that were about 400 square feet and gassed. This displays one of the difficulties of anecdotal evidence. Fitting 1200 people in what is essentially a small garage is a little difficult to imagine. The most approachable analysis I've found is David Cole's "The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz" (Part I, Part II). Cole's Forty-Six Important Unanswered Questions Regarding the Nazi Gas Chambers is also helpful. In it, he asks the simply legitimate question, "If you don't know whether there were three or four holes, how do you know that there were ANY holes?" It should be noted that Cole, who is Jewish, was apparently forced by threat and blackmail by the Jewish Defense League into recanting his research and withdrawing from ever speaking of the Holocaust again. .... A quiz: You most likely know the answer to #4 without having to look it up. Most of us would have to look up the other answers too. I guess it was more important for us to learn some things rather than others. .... It took me until a couple of years ago to realize that our conditioning is so deep that when the programmed individual is asked to consider what evidence exists for gas chambers, what the programmed individual hears is, "No Jews were killed by the Nazis". That's exactly how the programming is supposed to work. It makes possible the use of the term 'Holocaust denier' to keep the unconditioned sheep out of the fold. In High American Culture of the 21st Century, there's few greater curses thrown than that of "Holocaust Denier". It's gotten people deported and jailed in foreign countries while multi-billion ripoff artists are sentenced to their mansions. This conditioning is often protected through an emotional reaction. Many people get downright angry when gas chambers and evidence are brought up in the same sentence. We see this same reaction in people that have an overarching attachment to religious or political systems also. It's not a rational, reasoned reaction to a rational, reasonable request. For others, the reaction is one of apathy. Apathy protects the conditioning by ensuring that the source of the conditioning won't be examined and thus, the conditioning remains. This Holocaust conditioning is the vicegrip of a perception that lends itself to much evil being allowed to happen. By at least examining what one thinks one does or doesn't know about the Holocaust, that grip is broken just a little bit and perception can be allowed to change rather than dictated to. "In forging their own brand of totalitarianism in the U.S., the Zionists continue to manipulate the victims of the Nazi holocaust as their chief weapon." - Alfred Lilienthal
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#1. To: christine, Pinguinite, angle, Lady X, Cynicom, Prefrontal Vortex, wbales, Ridinshotgun, DeaconBenjamin, Horse, Ada, HOUNDDAWG, nikki, farmfriend, Jethro Tull, Dakmar, echo5sierra, scrapper2, noone222, Rotara, honway, Original_Intent, Hayek Fan (#0)
For your consideration...
I don't deny the Nazis killed Jews. They also killed Christians, Gypsies, Masons, homosexuals, the deformed, the mentally ill, the physically ill, and who knows who else. The best evidence is that about four million people died in the camps. I have seen zero evidence of people being mass-murdered in gas chambers and then cremated.
Joaquin's Letterman appearance is instant classic heathen!
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
When I googled "holocaust museum reservation" all I saw were sites selling tickets for Jew events. Could have sworn The Tribe had put their imprint on some of the tribes already.
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
Yad Vashem has three million names, so when all's said and done, we can probably put it at 10-20% of that number. As the total number of dead in WWII is in the tens of millions, with more dying outside of camps rather than in them, it strikes me as odd that we were subjected to the non-stop horror stories of the camps as opposed to the larger atrocities contained.
That's MISTER unwashed, dirty heathen to you, pal.
Erectus Walks Amongst Us "I know kung fu."
"I know kung fubu." -- The other Kevin.
Erectus Walks Amongst Us I asked why the six meg number didn't change (at LF) and Magician said that the deaths at Auschwitz weren't included in the original compilation of Jewish victims! HAH! "Oh let's not include those numbers because, well, what the heck who needs a reason? We'll just use the numbers from....uh, well... gee... um...." (Was it because they didn't trust Russian math? No.. Russian math was Jewish math, and it was Poland who eventually revised the number, goddam them to Christian Hell....) That was in the same conversation where I tried to corner him by asking, "Is there such a thing as a legit non-Jooish critic of Israel? Several months later he finally answered (after pretending he didn't remember the question and saying the chat never happened, and AFTER I re-linked him to it and there was no place left to run) He replied with "Yes, Yasser (THAT'S MY BABY) Arafat was a legit critic but he's dead so, now there are no living critics of Israel who are legitimate!" (talk about chutzpah)
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Erectus Walks Amongst Us That's one of the reasons I don't believe in these nonsensical, impossible, nonexistent conspiracies like teh 911 Truthers do. Hundreds if not thousands of people involved, and no one is going to come clean because they think another member is going to kill them ("Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead")? No one found Jesus and repented? How about on their deathbed? How about someone needing money and blackmailing a richer one?
Would you believe them? Hundreds if not thousands of people involved Perhaps successful leaderless resistance becomes leaderless rule.
Erectus Walks Amongst UsThis conditioning is often protected through an emotional reaction. Many people get downright angry when gas chambers and evidence are brought up in the same sentence. We see this same reaction in people that have an overarching attachment to religious or political systems also. It's not a rational, reasoned reaction to a rational, reasonable request. For others, the reaction is one of apathy. Apathy protects the conditioning by ensuring that the source of the conditioning won't be examined and thus, the conditioning remains.
#2. To: bluegrass (#0)
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#3. To: bluegrass (#1)
#4. To: Turtle, randge (#2)
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I don't deny the Nazis killed Jews. They also killed Christians, Gypsies, Masons, homosexuals, the deformed, the mentally ill, the physically ill, and who knows who else.
#5. To: Turtle (#2)
The best evidence is that about four million people died in the camps.
#6. To: Dakmar (#3)
heathen!
#7. To: bluegrass (#0)
Frankly, life was easier before the blinders came off.
I will not go to Auschwitz. I have ordered the book. Da-do-run-run-run Da-do-run-run.
#8. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#7)
#9. To: bluegrass (#8)
I will not go to Auschwitz. I have ordered the book. Da-do-run-run-run Da-do-run-run.
#10. To: bluegrass (#0)
...That changed for me in the late 1990's when I learned, via the internet and my own research afterwards, that the number of dead at Auschwitz had been revised downward from four million to one million, but the overall six million Jewish dead still stood as gospel....
#11. To: bluegrass (#8)
Seen Ebert's review of "Taken"?
"Taken" reopens a question I've had. A lot of movies involve secret clubs or covens of rich white men who meet for the purposes of despoiling innocent women in despicable perversity. The men are usually dressed in elegant formalwear, smoke cigars and have champagne poured for them by discreet servants. Do such clubs actually exist? Since every member would be blackmailable, how could they survive? If you lost everything in a Ponzi scheme, would you betray your lodge members? Just wondering.
I will not go to Auschwitz. I have ordered the book. Da-do-run-run-run Da-do-run-run.
#12. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#11)
Since every member would be blackmailable, how could they survive?
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#13. To: Turtle (#12)
No one found Jesus and repented?
I will not go to Auschwitz. I have ordered the book. Da-do-run-run-run Da-do-run-run.
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