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Title: The Best Place in Town to Take a Leak
Source: Broadway Used Tires
URL Source: http://www.broadwayusedtires.com/
Published: Feb 14, 2009
Author: me, who else?
Post Date: 2009-02-14 18:32:41 by Critter
Keywords: None
Views: 925
Comments: 59

Or Critter's hedge against the depression...

1st full week in business, no advertising, no grand opening, no nothing, cept 52 tires sold, average sale $40 a tire, average cost per tire, $8.

Yes sir, I picked the right place at the right time.

There is gold in that there used rubber. :)

I expect that this shop will do 150 tires a week by summer. If you're looking for a good biz for the coming depression, this is it. It's hard, dirty work, but it pays good. (1 image)

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#1. To: Critter (#0)

There is gold in that there used rubber. :)

Hmm... how about "Used Rubbers" as a shop name? Would be kinda catchy...

Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2009-02-14   18:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Elliott Jackalope (#1)

hehehe, don't think I didn't consider it.

My brother, who is also in the used tire biz, is going to name his boat "Used Rubber". :)

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   18:41:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Critter (#0)

Congratulations!


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farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-14   18:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Critter (#0)

Whenever I'm at a junkyard I'll look around for a good tire. Most are gone, but occasionally I'll find a car with a Michelin or a Goodyear with most of the tread still on the tire. I consider such a find to be free gold.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-14   18:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Critter (#2) (Edited)

My one question is this: How old does a tire have to be before you'd be concerned about its safety? Not a question of tread depth, but a question of the age of the carcass? The reason I ask is because I have some B.F. Goodrich radial All-Terrain mud and snow tires on my truck, I bought them new seven years ago, they have about 20k miles on them now (I don't drive a lot, work out of my home) and look like new. How old does a tire have to be before you should be concerned about taking it up to 70mph on the interstate, in your opinion?

Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2009-02-14   18:59:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Critter (#0)

Good luck. Yes, it is indeed hard, dirty work (I have done some of it in the past). But it is honest work and it sounds like you have found a formula that will pay you well for your efforts.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-14   19:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Elliott Jackalope (#5)

How old does a tire have to be before you should be concerned about taking it up to 70mph on the interstate, in your opinion?

I don't think actual age is as much a concern as condition. Look for dry rot cracking in the rubber on the sidewalls and between the tread. If none is evident, the tire is fine. Even a little bit is ok. Severe dry rot means toss it out.

I have a machine that expands a hub into a tire and fills the tire with air so we can give it a good inspection. We look for dry rot, sidewall leaks, broken belts, bubbles, etc. Those will get a tire tossed into the trash pile. leaks in the tread face get a good patch from the interior and they are good to go.

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   19:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Critter, christine (#0)

Uhhhhhhh, I don't see the Freedom4um logo anywhere on that banner, Bubba.

Chrissy, I think we got us a bannee on the hook.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
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Esso  posted on  2009-02-14   19:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: James Deffenbach (#6) (Edited)

But it is honest work and it sounds like you have found a formula that will pay you well for your efforts.

I gave up the hammer and nails for this. It seems like it is going to work out real well. As money gets tighter, more and more folks will brave the humiliation of pulling into the used tire shop. But as I told one guy who drove out with 4 almost new goodyear wranglers for 1/3 the cost of new, you look like you just drove out of the goodyear dealer. :)

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   19:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Turtle (#4)

I consider such a find to be free gold.

I've been getting $5 gold from a few scrap dealers and a guy that works at a chevy dealership. They've been bringing me some premium stuff for $5 a tire, all they can bring me.

Today, the chevy guy brought in 2 matched sets of Goodyear 225-50-15 with about 80% tread left. Cost me $40 for all 8 and I will get $160 for each set of 4. He's happy as a clam to get 40 and I am happy as a pig in shit to have two matched sets that size.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   19:41:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Esso (#8)

I need a freedom4um decal for the front door. :)

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   19:42:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: farmfriend (#3)

Thanks. :)

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   19:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Critter (#0)

Good idea critter. I respect a man who works with his hands.

Good luck

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-14   19:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Critter (#9)

As money gets tighter, more and more folks will brave the humiliation of pulling into the used tire shop.

There is a used tire place not to far from where I live. The business has been there at least 20 years now I suppose. They have expanded into new tires. Maybe you can do that too and increase business even more.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-14   19:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Critter (#0)

love the clever catchy phrase. what size facility and property do you need for this?

christine  posted on  2009-02-14   20:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#15)

what size facility and property do you need for this?

I have about 3200 square feet in two buildings, with about 100 X 50 parking area on a heavily traveled road through the city.

One building is housing overflow inventory of 14" 15" and 16" tires, plus all of the 17" through 22" tires. We also test, inspect and paint tires in that building. The smaller building holds about 300 tires, and has two bays for doing tire changes. We don't use lifts. Just floor jacks. It's faster.

I have more pics I can post, taken just after I signed the lease, and some after I got the small building set up inside.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   21:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Critter (#16)

I have more pics I can post, taken just after I signed the lease, and some after I got the small building set up inside.

Keep posting, someday you'll make your case.

The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer

Dakmar  posted on  2009-02-14   21:35:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Critter (#16)

i'd like to see. how many employees do you have?

christine  posted on  2009-02-14   21:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: christine (#18)

how many employees do you have?

Just one loaner from my brother's shop on LI. Once the initial inventory is all set up, I can handle up to 100 tires a week on my own. After that I will probably need one more for every hundred additional tires we sell.

There also may be a good opportunity to wholesale product from there. I am working on connections that can supply me with about 30k good tires a year. I can never sell that many retail, but I can truck the overflow to NYC and get $9 to $12 per tire.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   21:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: christine (#18) (Edited)

I thought I had more in my camera, but this is it. I must have deleted them or something.

The bigger building:

The smaller one:

And one of the inside by the rim clamp machine:

To the left is a coats 40/40 machine for doing tires on steel rims and a Snap On wheel balancer. Behind where I was standing are 7 racks holding 300 tires.

All of the machines were bought used, except the inspection machine which was $6500. The rim clamp machine would be $6800 new, but I got that one in NJ in super condition for $1800. The balance was cheap, I think $400, and Coats 40/40 was $500.

The total investment fell in at about $50,000 to open the doors and start selling, including a $4500 used diesel box truck, and a trailer load (1600) tires.

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   21:56:06 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#18)

Oh yeah, there is a dunkin donuts across the street. One day I will get a picture that will make 4um pitpltao! A couple of times a day their lot fills up with police cars. :)

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   21:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Turtle (#4)

Whenever I'm at a junkyard I'll look around for a good tire. Most are gone, but occasionally I'll find a car with a Michelin or a Goodyear with most of the tread still on the tire. I consider such a find to be free gold.

My nephew owns ProTire Repair in Geneseo, Ny. He started out in 1987 repairing those great big tires you would find on excavating and mining equipment. He sometimes runs across damaged tires, gets them free, repairs them and sells them sometimes for thousands of dollars. Now that is free gold!

I know he repaired a tire that was over 9 feet tall when standing up and it had a hole in it big enough to put his head through. Someone took his picture with his head thru that hole. That repair job cost the customer over $7,000 dollars. I told him someone must be crazy to pay that much for a tire repair. He took me over to the tire catalog which is about 6 inches thick, found the tire he repaired and the retail price for a new one was over $24,000. The tire he repaired had about 80% of the tread left and he guareenteed his work for one year. He employs 6 people at present.

Incidentally, his first year in the business he did about $14,000 worth of business. Now he is doing nearly 7 figures worth. I built his shop out of an old farm fertilizer building and designed and built all of his tire lifting equipment here in Meadville,Pa in my garage. I gave him his first lifting machine as a wedding presnt in 1990. In 2001 I designed a large all hydraulic lifting machine that weighs about 2 tons and is rated to lift 15,000 lbs. I designed and built it in 4 weeks. I also built him 4 work stations that can accommodate a variety of sizes up to and including tires weighin over 3 tons.

Everytime he and I talk he thanks me and says he can not ever repay me for what I have done for him. Anyone up in Geneseeo, NY can stop in and see how a big tire repair is made. It is very fascinating. He is the only one who guareentees his work for one full year against failure and he has a one week turn-around on his work. One week turn around means he picks up your tire, say on a monday, and returns it repaired the next monday. Or course he probably works close to 80 hours a week.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-02-14   21:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Critter (#20)

Most excellent C ! Congratulations !

Where's the calendars ? Ya know, the calendars..

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Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:00:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Critter (#21)

Oh yeah, there is a dunkin donuts across the street. One day I will get a picture that will make 4um pitpltao! A couple of times a day their lot fills up with police cars. :)

I like it ! Taking a risk right off the bat !! ;-)

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Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Critter (#0)

Sounds like a perfect business given the economy. I'd protect myself personally with whatever business structure doesn't hold you liable for mishaps, etc.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-02-14   22:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Critter (#20)

wish you the best with it...

christine  posted on  2009-02-14   22:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

I'd protect myself personally with whatever business structure doesn't hold you liable for mishaps, etc.

You're not kidding. Asset Protection Area Ahead

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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: LACUMO (#22)

Yeah, there's big money in those big tires. My younger brother did those for years. He didn't actually do the repairs, but he did the changing. Hard work too.

I'm thinking about running a truck tire road service truck out of this shop soon too. I am 1/4 mile off of I890 and about 3 miles from the NYS throughway.

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:10:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

I'd protect myself personally with whatever business structure doesn't hold you liable for mishaps, etc.

Incorporated. :)

I know, that's a dirty word. hehehe

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Critter (#21)

pitpltao!

Ugh. I figured out what that means almost immediately.

I need to get a life.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
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Esso  posted on  2009-02-14   22:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rotara (#23)

Where's the calendars ?

Damn, that's a great idea!

We had a couple of gorgeous tidbits come in this week. Maybe I'll make the Bway Tire Customer Pinups calendar. :)

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:13:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Esso (#30)

Ugh. I figured out what that means almost immediately.

I need to get a life.

I didn't even have to think much to type it. I need a life too. lol

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

Sounds like a perfect business given the economy.

I had a broke venture capitalist come in with a two year old Lexus the other day to buy 4 tires. From millionaire to shopping in a used tire shop in one easy NWO economy crash.

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Esso (#30)

pitpltao!

Ugh. I figured out what that means almost immediately.

I need to get a life.

Haaaaahahahaha ! I almost pissed my pants laughing my ass off when I read your post !! You owe me a new (______) !!

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Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Critter, christine (#31) (Edited)

Where's the calendars ?

Damn, that's a great idea!

That's why I'm here. ;-)

I nominate Christine for Miss July. ahaha

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Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Esso, Critter (#30)

pitpltao

what does it mean?

christine  posted on  2009-02-14   22:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Rotara (#35)

how'd you know my birthday is in july? ;)

christine  posted on  2009-02-14   22:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Old Friend (#13)

Good luck

Thanks, even though I don't like you. :p

They have expanded into new tires. Maybe you can do that too and increase business even more.

Actually, new tires are a big hassle and you make quite a bit less on them, if you want to be competitive with the big discount chains.

For what it would cost to inventory 100 new tires, I can inventory 5 or 600 used, in great shape, with no real competition within 50 miles.

We will have a few though, to fill in sizes that are hard to come by used, like 215 and 235 85 16 light truck and some of the 13 inch passenger sizes.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#36)

peeing in their pants, laughing their asses off.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#37)

how'd you know my birthday is in july? ;)

I hired a Private Investigator. ;-) hehehehehe

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Rotara, christine (#40)

I hired a Private Investigator. ;-) hehehehehe

I like to do my own "private" investigating. ;)

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
Restaurants Schenectady, NY

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