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Title: The Best Place in Town to Take a Leak
Source: Broadway Used Tires
URL Source: http://www.broadwayusedtires.com/
Published: Feb 14, 2009
Author: me, who else?
Post Date: 2009-02-14 18:32:41 by Critter
Keywords: None
Views: 935
Comments: 59

Or Critter's hedge against the depression...

1st full week in business, no advertising, no grand opening, no nothing, cept 52 tires sold, average sale $40 a tire, average cost per tire, $8.

Yes sir, I picked the right place at the right time.

There is gold in that there used rubber. :)

I expect that this shop will do 150 tires a week by summer. If you're looking for a good biz for the coming depression, this is it. It's hard, dirty work, but it pays good. (1 image)

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#11. To: Esso (#8)

I need a freedom4um decal for the front door. :)

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   19:42:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: farmfriend (#3)

Thanks. :)

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   19:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Critter (#0)

Good idea critter. I respect a man who works with his hands.

Good luck

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-14   19:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Critter (#9)

As money gets tighter, more and more folks will brave the humiliation of pulling into the used tire shop.

There is a used tire place not to far from where I live. The business has been there at least 20 years now I suppose. They have expanded into new tires. Maybe you can do that too and increase business even more.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-14   19:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Critter (#0)

love the clever catchy phrase. what size facility and property do you need for this?

christine  posted on  2009-02-14   20:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#15)

what size facility and property do you need for this?

I have about 3200 square feet in two buildings, with about 100 X 50 parking area on a heavily traveled road through the city.

One building is housing overflow inventory of 14" 15" and 16" tires, plus all of the 17" through 22" tires. We also test, inspect and paint tires in that building. The smaller building holds about 300 tires, and has two bays for doing tire changes. We don't use lifts. Just floor jacks. It's faster.

I have more pics I can post, taken just after I signed the lease, and some after I got the small building set up inside.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   21:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Critter (#16)

I have more pics I can post, taken just after I signed the lease, and some after I got the small building set up inside.

Keep posting, someday you'll make your case.

The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer

Dakmar  posted on  2009-02-14   21:35:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Critter (#16)

i'd like to see. how many employees do you have?

christine  posted on  2009-02-14   21:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: christine (#18)

how many employees do you have?

Just one loaner from my brother's shop on LI. Once the initial inventory is all set up, I can handle up to 100 tires a week on my own. After that I will probably need one more for every hundred additional tires we sell.

There also may be a good opportunity to wholesale product from there. I am working on connections that can supply me with about 30k good tires a year. I can never sell that many retail, but I can truck the overflow to NYC and get $9 to $12 per tire.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   21:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: christine (#18) (Edited)

I thought I had more in my camera, but this is it. I must have deleted them or something.

The bigger building:

The smaller one:

And one of the inside by the rim clamp machine:

To the left is a coats 40/40 machine for doing tires on steel rims and a Snap On wheel balancer. Behind where I was standing are 7 racks holding 300 tires.

All of the machines were bought used, except the inspection machine which was $6500. The rim clamp machine would be $6800 new, but I got that one in NJ in super condition for $1800. The balance was cheap, I think $400, and Coats 40/40 was $500.

The total investment fell in at about $50,000 to open the doors and start selling, including a $4500 used diesel box truck, and a trailer load (1600) tires.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   21:56:06 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#18)

Oh yeah, there is a dunkin donuts across the street. One day I will get a picture that will make 4um pitpltao! A couple of times a day their lot fills up with police cars. :)

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   21:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Turtle (#4)

Whenever I'm at a junkyard I'll look around for a good tire. Most are gone, but occasionally I'll find a car with a Michelin or a Goodyear with most of the tread still on the tire. I consider such a find to be free gold.

My nephew owns ProTire Repair in Geneseo, Ny. He started out in 1987 repairing those great big tires you would find on excavating and mining equipment. He sometimes runs across damaged tires, gets them free, repairs them and sells them sometimes for thousands of dollars. Now that is free gold!

I know he repaired a tire that was over 9 feet tall when standing up and it had a hole in it big enough to put his head through. Someone took his picture with his head thru that hole. That repair job cost the customer over $7,000 dollars. I told him someone must be crazy to pay that much for a tire repair. He took me over to the tire catalog which is about 6 inches thick, found the tire he repaired and the retail price for a new one was over $24,000. The tire he repaired had about 80% of the tread left and he guareenteed his work for one year. He employs 6 people at present.

Incidentally, his first year in the business he did about $14,000 worth of business. Now he is doing nearly 7 figures worth. I built his shop out of an old farm fertilizer building and designed and built all of his tire lifting equipment here in Meadville,Pa in my garage. I gave him his first lifting machine as a wedding presnt in 1990. In 2001 I designed a large all hydraulic lifting machine that weighs about 2 tons and is rated to lift 15,000 lbs. I designed and built it in 4 weeks. I also built him 4 work stations that can accommodate a variety of sizes up to and including tires weighin over 3 tons.

Everytime he and I talk he thanks me and says he can not ever repay me for what I have done for him. Anyone up in Geneseeo, NY can stop in and see how a big tire repair is made. It is very fascinating. He is the only one who guareentees his work for one full year against failure and he has a one week turn-around on his work. One week turn around means he picks up your tire, say on a monday, and returns it repaired the next monday. Or course he probably works close to 80 hours a week.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-02-14   21:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Critter (#20)

Most excellent C ! Congratulations !

Where's the calendars ? Ya know, the calendars..

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:00:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Critter (#21)

Oh yeah, there is a dunkin donuts across the street. One day I will get a picture that will make 4um pitpltao! A couple of times a day their lot fills up with police cars. :)

I like it ! Taking a risk right off the bat !! ;-)

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Critter (#0)

Sounds like a perfect business given the economy. I'd protect myself personally with whatever business structure doesn't hold you liable for mishaps, etc.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-02-14   22:02:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Critter (#20)

wish you the best with it...

christine  posted on  2009-02-14   22:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

I'd protect myself personally with whatever business structure doesn't hold you liable for mishaps, etc.

You're not kidding. Asset Protection Area Ahead

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: LACUMO (#22)

Yeah, there's big money in those big tires. My younger brother did those for years. He didn't actually do the repairs, but he did the changing. Hard work too.

I'm thinking about running a truck tire road service truck out of this shop soon too. I am 1/4 mile off of I890 and about 3 miles from the NYS throughway.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:10:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

I'd protect myself personally with whatever business structure doesn't hold you liable for mishaps, etc.

Incorporated. :)

I know, that's a dirty word. hehehe

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Critter (#21)

pitpltao!

Ugh. I figured out what that means almost immediately.

I need to get a life.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-02-14   22:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rotara (#23)

Where's the calendars ?

Damn, that's a great idea!

We had a couple of gorgeous tidbits come in this week. Maybe I'll make the Bway Tire Customer Pinups calendar. :)

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:13:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Esso (#30)

Ugh. I figured out what that means almost immediately.

I need to get a life.

I didn't even have to think much to type it. I need a life too. lol

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

Sounds like a perfect business given the economy.

I had a broke venture capitalist come in with a two year old Lexus the other day to buy 4 tires. From millionaire to shopping in a used tire shop in one easy NWO economy crash.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Esso (#30)

pitpltao!

Ugh. I figured out what that means almost immediately.

I need to get a life.

Haaaaahahahaha ! I almost pissed my pants laughing my ass off when I read your post !! You owe me a new (______) !!

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:17:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Critter, christine (#31) (Edited)

Where's the calendars ?

Damn, that's a great idea!

That's why I'm here. ;-)

I nominate Christine for Miss July. ahaha

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Esso, Critter (#30)

pitpltao

what does it mean?

christine  posted on  2009-02-14   22:22:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Rotara (#35)

how'd you know my birthday is in july? ;)

christine  posted on  2009-02-14   22:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Old Friend (#13)

Good luck

Thanks, even though I don't like you. :p

They have expanded into new tires. Maybe you can do that too and increase business even more.

Actually, new tires are a big hassle and you make quite a bit less on them, if you want to be competitive with the big discount chains.

For what it would cost to inventory 100 new tires, I can inventory 5 or 600 used, in great shape, with no real competition within 50 miles.

We will have a few though, to fill in sizes that are hard to come by used, like 215 and 235 85 16 light truck and some of the 13 inch passenger sizes.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#36)

peeing in their pants, laughing their asses off.

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#37)

how'd you know my birthday is in july? ;)

I hired a Private Investigator. ;-) hehehehehe

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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Rotara, christine (#40)

I hired a Private Investigator. ;-) hehehehehe

I like to do my own "private" investigating. ;)

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:27:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Critter (#38)

Lot of Ford Rangers up there ?

How much for a patch up ?

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Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:27:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Critter (#39)

i guess i don't need to get a life ;)

christine  posted on  2009-02-14   22:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Critter (#41)

I like to do my own "private" investigating. ;)

That's way out of line. ;-) Don't have a blow out now..ahaha

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Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:28:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Rotara (#42) (Edited)

Lot of Ford Rangers up there ?

Yeah, a fair amount and those 14 inch tires are getting tough to get too. I think they run 215 or 225 70 14s, but I don't know for sure because people will put anything they can get on them. lol

I get $10 to do a patch on tires up to 17 inch, but try to weasle an extra few dollars on bigger sizes and low profiles.

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: christine (#43)

Rub it in, Missy.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-02-14   22:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Critter (#45)

Very good.

I hope you deny service to Prius owners. ;-)

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Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:32:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Rotara (#47)

I have (in this biz and every other I have ever been in) an asshole tax. I think Prius owners will have to pay it. ;)

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Critter  posted on  2009-02-14   22:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Critter (#48)

I think Prius owners will have to pay it. ;)

It's only right. ;-)

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Rotara  posted on  2009-02-14   22:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Critter (#28)

I'm thinking about running a truck tire road service truck out of this shop soon too. I am 1/4 mile off of I890 and about 3 miles from the NYS throughway.

Running a truck tire road service truck is definitely hard work. Good money however.

My nephew doesn't have to mount or dismount the tires he repairs. The dealers do that and he picks them up there. He just bought a brand new Peterbilt flat bed straight axle with a sleeper cab and a 30 ton crane. That set him back about $225,000. He has 2 trucks on the road and also a dual wheel tandem trailer to haul tires.

He goes into Buffalo, Syracuse, Watertown, Albany, and Poukeepsie, NY and into Massachussetts to pick up tires. He has even gone to the harbor in NYC and picked up tires sent by ship from France and repaired them He'll wear that truck out in about 4/5 years. His other truck is a Mitsubishi with a 22 foot bed and a tailgate lift.

He has a 60' X 100' main shop and an 60' X 80' shop he uses to fill tires with foam which he just started doing the last couple of years. Then he has an office building and a scale to weigh his truck loads. The scale accommodates 18 wheelers. He got to protect himself from those overload fines.

Some of his vulcanizing machines cost about $150,000 each and he has three of them and two thermal presses which cost about $80,000 each. Add a couple of forktruck and an old Rochester Gas & Electric boom truck and you have a pretty good idea of what he has. He also stores tires in a few barns in the area as he rents them. His shop is about 12 miles off of I390 and about 22 miles from I- 90.

He does some truck tire repair when it slows down in the off construction months. He always is finding those golden freebies. Some dealers can't always determine if a tire can be repaired and sometimes they scrap repairable tires after selling the customer a new tire. He has hundreds of tires and I mean hundreds. Some of them are really rare and hard to come by and he gets top dollar for those.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-02-14   22:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Critter (#45) (Edited)

I get $10 to do a patch on tires up to 17 inch, but try to weasle an extra few dollars on bigger sizes and low profiles.

When I read this I chuckled a bit. Last summer I was up at my nephews shop and he vulcanized an 80 ply patch in a big tire. His cost on the patch was over $400. I don't know how much he charged the customer for the patch.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-02-14   23:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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