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Title: "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" Scrapped from Government website
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Post Date: 2009-02-14 23:45:19 by Artisan
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On 3/13/02, George W. Bush held a press conference, of which the transcript was posted on the white house website for many years. Bush had been questioned about the whereabouts of bin laden; and among other things, Bush replied: "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" (that's a direct quote). It was here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

With a new administration I checked to see if this White House URL still worked. it is gone, and now the original url takes you to this url

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing_room/

Question: Are all white house press conferences/ transcripts from all previous administrations scrapped when a new admin. takes over? Are they stored anywhere else at that point, perhaps a govt archive site, or disappeared down the memory hole forever?

Thanks for any tips on this matter. The clip is still on youtube by the way. Grab it while you can.

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

the wayback machine should have archives of the white house website.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-15   0:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan (#0) (Edited)

[edit....after a cup of coffee, I see where I erred. Presidential press conferences are here: http://web.archive.org/web/20080...ov/news/releases/2002/03/ and the March 13, 2002 Press Conference CAN still be found on the official website. [ http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html / georgewbush-whitehouse.ar...s/2002/03/20020313-8.html ]. A notation at the top announces: "This is historical material, "frozen in time." The web site is no longer updated and links to external web sites and some internal pages will not work." The links are often archived at wayback, though.:

March 13, 2002 President Bush Holds Press Conference:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/%20...s/2002/03/20020313-8.html / http://web.archive.org/web/20080...s/2002/03/20020313-8.html

"... Q Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? Also, can you tell the American people if you have any more information, if you know if he is dead or alive? Final part -- deep in your heart, don't you truly believe that until you find out if he is dead or alive, you won't really eliminate the threat of --

THE PRESIDENT: Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all. Who knows if he's hiding in some cave or not; we haven't heard from him in a long time. And the idea of focusing on one person is -- really indicates to me people don't understand the scope of the mission.

Terror is bigger than one person. And he's just -- he's a person who's now been marginalized. His network, his host government has been destroyed. He's the ultimate parasite who found weakness, exploited it, and met his match. He is -- as I mentioned in my speech, I do mention the fact that this is a fellow who is willing to commit youngsters to their death and he, himself, tries to hide -- if, in fact, he's hiding at all.

So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did.

And there will be other battles in Afghanistan. There's going to be other struggles like Shahikot, and I'm just as confident about the outcome of those future battles as I was about Shahikot, where our soldiers are performing brilliantly. We're tough, we're strong, they're well-equipped. We have a good strategy. We are showing the world we know how to fight a guerrilla war with conventional means.

Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.

But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became -- we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. And if we -- excuse me for a minute -- and if we find a training camp, we'll take care of it. Either we will or our friends will. That's one of the things -- part of the new phase that's becoming apparent to the American people is that we're working closely with other governments to deny sanctuary, or training, or a place to hide, or a place to raise money.

And we've got more work to do. See, that's the thing the American people have got to understand, that we've only been at this six months. This is going to be a long struggle. I keep saying that; I don't know whether you all believe me or not. But time will show you that it's going to take a long time to achieve this objective. And I can assure you, I am not going to blink. And I'm not going to get tired. Because I know what is at stake. And history has called us to action, and I am going to seize this moment for the good of the world, for peace in the world and for freedom.

Mike Allen. I'm working my way back, slowly but surely. Michael. ...."

=============

Incidentally, I was also recently wondering if old bushwhitehouse material would still be available. One of the things I was particularly interested in were the "Education Day" [Noahide Law] Proclamations, explicit evidence of the control of the US government by the Jews. They also appear to be intact. [http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/04/20080416-2.html / georgewbush-whitehouse.ar...s/2008/04/20080416-2.html ]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-15   8:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, twentytwelve, original_intent, christine, james deffenbach, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch* (#2)

Thank you very much for your time and the answers you provided, it's greatly appreciated!!

[ping to gw bush official archives.]

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-02-15   12:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#2) (Edited)

parting shots.....

Office of the Press Secretary July 24, 2008

Executive Order: 2008 Amendments to the Manual for Courts Martial, United States

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including chapter 47 of title 10, United States Code (Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. 801-946), and in order to prescribe amendments to the Manual for Courts-Martial, United States, prescribed by Executive Order 12473 of April 13, 1984, as amended, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Parts II and IV of the Manual for Courts-Martial, United States, are amended as described in the Annex attached and made a part of this order.

Section 2. These amendments shall take effect 30 days from the date of this order.

(a) Nothing in these amendments shall be construed to make punishable any act done or omitted prior to the effective date of this order that was not punishable when done or omitted.

(b) Nothing in these amendments shall be construed to invalidate any nonjudicial punishment proceedings, restraint, investigation, referral of charges, trial in which arraignment occurred, or other action begun prior to the effective date of this order, and any such nonjudicial punishment, restraint, investigation, referral of charges, trial, or other action may proceed in the same manner and with the same effect as if these amendments had not been prescribed.

GEORGE W. BUSH

THE WHITE HOUSE,

July 24, 2008.

georgewbush-whitehouse.ar.../2008/07/20080724-10.html

==========================

Executive Order Trial of Alien Unlawful Enemy Combatants by Military Commission

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Military Commissions Act of 2006 (Public Law 10949;366), the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40), and section 948b(b) of title 10, United States Code, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Establishment of Military Commissions. There are hereby established military commissions to try alien unlawful enemy combatants for offenses triable by military commission as provided in chapter 47A of title 10.

Sec. 2. Definitions. As used in this order:

(a) "unlawful enemy combatant" has the meaning provided for that term in section 948a(1) of title 10; and

(b) "alien" means a person who is not a citizen of the United States.

Sec. 3. Supersedure. This order supersedes any provision of the President's Military Order of November 13, 2001 (66 Fed. Reg. 57,833), that relates to trial by military commission, specifically including:

(a) section 4 of the Military Order; and

(b) any requirement in section 2 of the Military Order, as it relates to trial by military commission, for a determination of:

(i) reason to believe specified matters; or

(ii) the interest of the United States.

Sec. 4. General Provisions. (a) This order shall be implemented in accordance with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(b) The heads of executive departments and agencies shall provide such information and assistance to the Secretary of Defense as may be necessary to implement this order and chapter 47A of title 10.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, entities, officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

GEORGE W. BUSH

THE WHITE HOUSE,

February 14, 2007.

georgewbush-whitehouse.ar...s/2007/02/20070214-5.html

============================

Executive Orders A Blueprint for Dictatorship?

By Tanya L. Green, J.D. Revised: March 30, 2000

"Stroke of the pen. Law of the land. Kind of cool." -Paul Begala, former aide to President Clinton1

Article II of the United States Constitution grants the president vaguely defined "executive power." It is one of the least specific yet potentially far-reaching powers awarded to the president." Paired with Article II's requirement that presidents "take care that the laws be faithfully executed," the executive power clause provides for a range of "implied powers" with the extent and potency that, if abused, could lead our country down the path to a dictatorship.

Purpose of the Power

"Implied powers" are powers incidental, or subordinate, to the president's constitutional duties as commander in chief and to the clause: "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." The power to issue executive orders is derived from these "implied powers." Executive orders are presidential proclamations or directives that have the force of law without prior congressional approval.

Orders are based on existing statutes or the president's other constitutional responsibilities." Although these orders usually pertain to government agencies and officials, their effects often reach the average citizen." Orders are primarily issued to establish executive branch agencies, to modify bureaucratic rules or actions, to change decision-making procedures or to give substance and force to statutes.2 "No constitutional basis exists for any president to legislate or make laws through executive orders.

Nor does the Constitution list specific procedures for issuing executive orders." During the first one hundred years of our country's history, orders were issued without any system of publication or recording." The numbering of executive orders began in 1907 with numbers assigned retroactively to Abraham Lincoln's presidency." Congress, in the Administrative Procedures Act of 1946, mandated that the number and text of all executive orders be published in the Federal Register, the official U.S. government record." The only exceptions are orders that pertain directly to sensitive national security matters, which are entered directly into the Register by number only.3

What began as a narrow use of executive orders under extreme national crises has grown into executive discretion bordering on dictatorial powers." This growth in executive discretion is largely due to Congress' reluctance to exercise its legislative responsibilities. Congress has delegated broad discretionary authority in the name of flexibility, effectiveness or efficiency." Because of its neglect, the president has rarely been held accountable for his orders. In the words of Justice J. Jackson in Youngstown v. Sawyer: "We may say that power to legislate · belongs in the hands of Congress, but only Congress itself can prevent power from slipping through its fingers."4

Now, with the "stroke of the pen," an executive order effectively becomes the "law of the land." While some executive orders are appropriate uses of presidential authority, others violate the Constitution and threaten our civil liberties......

.....although the president is required to publish executive orders in the Register, he has a loophole in that only a number may be used to register those orders that pertain to sensitive matters, such as national security." Therefore, he may record "secret" orders under the guise of "sensitive matters.".......

....Homosexual rights." To advance the agenda of the homosexual lobby, arguably one of his strongest supporters, Clinton signed Executive Order 13087 on May 28, 1998, which awarded homosexuals "special protection." The order prohibits federal employers from discriminating based on sexual preference." Clinton maintained that this measure did not create any new enforcement rights but merely "provided uniform policy for the federal government to prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation."5" Concerned Women for America (CWA) opposed this executive order, because it is not about equality under the law but about special protection based on behavior.

Most recently, Clinton signed an executive order amending the military criminal code to add stiffer penalties for crimes motivated by hatred based on the victim's race, religion, ethnicity or sexual orientation.

The order also changed the manual on courts-martial, which regulates military trials, by adding "hate crimes" language that says sentencing authorities may cite "hate" as an aggravating circumstance." .....

http://standeyo.com/News_Files/E...ueprint.for.dictator.html

Haven't been able to lock down the original "Manual" or all the "amendments" made by the Presidents every year, but I am sure it is not to the benefit of those who refuse to swear allegiance to this Beast [i.e., those who do not claim to be 14th Amendment US citizens]:

Supreme Law Library : "The Two United States and the Law" by Howard Freeman P. O. Box 364 Lusk, Wyo. 82225 Our forefathers, weary of the oppressive measures that King George ... http://supremelaw.org/library/freeman.html

=======================

Sec. 2. Definitions. As used in this order:

(a) "unlawful enemy combatant" has the meaning provided for that term in section 948a(1) of title 10; and

(b) "alien" means a person who is not a citizen of the United States.

Christians [wheat] are citizens of the Kingdom of Heaven/God, not the antiChrist kingdom of Jewish CorpUSA [tares]:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...cfm?b=Hbr&c=11&v=16&t=KJV / http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...cfm?b=Hbr&c=11&v=10&t=KJV / http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...cfm?b=Hbr&c=12&v=22&t=KJV / http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...cfm?b=Luk&c=12&v=32&t=KJV

I suspect if all the rabbit trails were followed, one would find the Manual for Courts Martial [and tribunal] has all been stealthily built as a snare for State Citizens, and particularly, citizens of the Kingdom of Heaven, which is what CHRISTIAN America was founded as. [ http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=93210 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...?b=Mat&c=13&v=31&t=KJV#31 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...cfm?b=Mat&c=13&v=33&t=KJV / http://www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Luk&c=12&v=1&t=KJV / http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...k.cfm?b=1Cr&c=5&v=7&t=KJV / http://www.ccrialto.com/blog/?sh...stard-seed-and-leaven.pdf / Parable of the Mustard Seed http://www.ccel.org/contrib/exec_outlines/pa/pa_05.htm ].

"Hate crimes" make criminals of Christians:

http://www.truthtellers.org/index.html / http://www.truthtellers.org/hatecrimes.html

US State Department Says New Testament is "Hate Speech" and "Anti-Semitic":

U.S. State Department Says New Testament Is "Anti-Semitic"? IS THE NEW TESTAMENT "HATE LITERATURE?" ... http://www.rense.com/general67/state.htm

Good news or `hate speech'? The New Testament is rewritten to remove phrases offensive to Jews. ... http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-30177698.html

Cornwallis to George Washington "A HOLY WAR will now BEGIN against America....." http://[sweetliberty.org]

Psa 83:2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

Psa 83:3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

Psa 83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from [being] a nation; that the name of Israel [ AMERICA, the land of UNWALLED VILLAGES http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...cfm?b=Zec&c=2&v=4&t=KJV#4 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...?b=Eze&c=38&v=11&t=KJV#11 / http://www.originofnations.org/old_bi_literature/Pitts.htm / http://www.moseshand.com/studies/pitts.htm / may be no more in remembrance.......: http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=83&v=4

Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],

Psa 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us......

http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...cfm?b=Psa&c=2&v=1&t=KJV#1

DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another [Psalm 83:4 and Psalm 2:3 http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=2&v=3 ] and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, [NOT: http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...m?b=Gal&c=3&v=28&t=KJV#28 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Gal&c=4&v=25&t=KJV ] a decent respect to the opinions of mankind [ NOT: http://www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Act&c=5&v=29&t=KJV ; Mark 7:9] requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ...... [NOT:

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...cfm?b=Jhn&c=10&v=28&t=KJV and Galatians 4:25 (They are supposed to be in bondage for their disobedience www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Gal&c=4&v=25&t=KJV )] .....

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm

"America, the land of the free and the home of the brave? or. . . the land of the fee and the home of the slave? The "American Revolution" is as well known an apparition as is the "War For Independence". Sadly, once again the spot-light is beamed upon a massive lie; in fact this one is a double-whammy. Not only was that war NOT a spontaneous uprising against tyranny, we Americans were fooled into believing we "won" that war.

Remembering that the Jews claim sole responsibility for the French Revolution -- in fact they claim responsibility for ALL revolutions-- consider the time line here: ......

". . . in Philadelphia, July 4, 1776, the Declaration of Independence was written. A copy was sent to Amsterdam via the small Dutch Caribbean Island of St. Eustatius. The Declaration was intercepted by the British at sea.

"An accompanying letter with the Declaration of Independence was also intercepted and sent to London as being a secret code about the document that needed to be deciphered - the letter was written in Yiddish.

We might ask here: WHY was a copy of the Declaration of Independence sent to Amsterdam via the Jews at St. Eustatius? It is likely that the final details of the planned "American Revolution" were worked out from that quarter. We are not privy to the content of the letter that accompanied the document, just the fact that it was written in Yiddish. ...." http://www.sweetliberty.org/pers...e/jewishpersecution18.htm

PREAMBLE

The Constitution of the United States of America

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and **** secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. [Ezekiel 17:7-10]

".....Chap. LX.--An Act to confiscate Property used for lnsurrectionary Purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That if, during the present or any future insurrection against the Government of the United States, after the President of the United States shall have declared, by proclamation, THAT THE [****NOAHIDE****] LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES ARE OPPOSED, and THE EXECUTION THEREOF OBSTRUCTED, by combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, or by the power vested in the marshals by law, any person or persons, his, her, or their agent, attorney, or employee, shall purchase or acquire, sell or give, any property of whatsoever kind or description, with intent to use or employ the same, or suffer the same to be used or employed, in aiding, abetting, or promoting such insurrection or RESISTANCE TO THE LAWS, or any person or persons engaged therein; or if any person or persons, being the owner or owners of any such property, shall knowingly use or employ, or consent to the use or employment of the same as aforesaid, ALL SUCH PROPERTY IS HEREBY DECLARED TO BE LAWFUL SUBJECT OF PRIZE AND CAPTURE WHEREVER FOUND; AND IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO CAUSE THE SAME TO BE SEIZED, CONFISCATED, AND CONDEMNED.

Sec. 2. And be it further enacted, That such PRIZES AND CAPTURE shall be condemned in the DISTRICT OR CIRCUIT COURT OF THE UNITED STATES having jurisdiction of the amount, or IN ADMIRALTY IN ANY DISTRICT IN WHICH THE SAME MAY BE SEIZED, or into which they may be taken and proceedings FIRST INSTITUTED.

Sec. 3..And be it further enacted, That the Attorney-General, or any district attorney of the United States in which said property may at the time be, may institute the proceedings of condemnation, and in such case they shall be wholly for the benefit of the United States; or any person may file an information with such attorney, in which case the proceedings shall be for the use of such informer and the United States in equal parts.

Sec. 4. And be it further enacted, That whenever hereafter, during the present insurrection against the Government of the United States, any person claimed to be held to labor or service under the law of any State, shall be required or permitted by the person to whom such labor or service is claimed to be due, or by the lawful agent of such person, to take up arms against the United States, or shall be required or permitted by the person to whom such labor or service is claimed to be due, or his lawful agent, to work or to be employed in or upon any fort, navy yard, dock, armory, ship, entrenchment, or in any military or naval service whatsoever, against the Government and lawful authority of' the United States, then, and in every such case, the person to whom such labor or service is claimed to be due shall forfeit his claim to such labor, any law of the State or of the United States to the contrary notwithstanding. And whenever thereafter the person claiming such labor or service shall seek to enforce his claim, it shall be a full and sufficient answer to such claim that the person whose service or labor is claimed had been employed in hostile service against the Government of the United States, contrary to the provisions of this act. Approved, August 6, 1861.

The words, "THAT THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES ARE OPPOSED, and THE EXECUTION THEREOF OBSTRUCTED," are self evident that if you oppose the IRC then you come under this war powers' statute and as an enemy, have no rights. These are facts that anyone cannot dispute as the law is clear on this as are the words, "RESISTANCE TO THE LAWS."

They cannot dispute the fact that under War Powers the President is commander-in- chief and is one of the functions under the Constitution that the President can enforce. He does so under the flag showing the jurisdiction of the commander-in-chief, that being the gold fringe on the flag. This is clear in the words of the Statute, "ALL SUCH PROPERTY IS HEREBY DECLARED TO BE LAWFUL SUBJECT OF PRIZE AND CAPTURE WHEREVER FOUND; AND IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO CAUSE THE SAME TO BE SEIZED, CONFISCATED, AND CONDEMNED."

Now when you look at every court in America you will see that the commander-in-chief is exercising his constitutional authority under the war power's acts. He also is exercising admiralty jurisdiction that is the supreme authority under which gives him total authority as showed by these words, "PRIZES AND CAPTURE" shall be condemned in the "DISTRICT OR CIRCUIT COURT OF THE UNITED STATES having jurisdiction of the amount, or IN ADMIRALTY IN ANY DISTRICT IN WHICH THE SAME MAY BE SEIZED, or into which they may be taken and proceedings FIRST INSTITUTED." ......."

".....We have a dictator, the President, operating constitutionally under War Powers controlling every aspect of your life. No, they do not suspend the constitution, the constitution exists exactly as they designed it. They have eliminated your rights and you can "constitutionally" do nothing about it. As the declared enemy, you cannot use the President's courts to effect a remedy when you "OPPOSE" and "RESIST the LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES." It is that simple under emergency/war power's acts. Congress is a major player because it was CONGRESS that in 1867 decided to veto President Johnson's veto of the war powers act so they could continue to control the people under the war power's act. Again, note how slyly they incorporated the capitalized words in 12 Stat 319 so they could take care of any future civil disturbance AND if anyone challenged the "LAWS" of Congress, such as the internal revenue laws for example. When you oppose the IRC for being wrong and you are not a taxpayer, or you do not need a license to travel or any other law then that is "RESISTANCE to that LAW." Immediately you have become the "enemy" and then have no rights....."

To get to the bottom of all your woes today, one must go back in time to see how they accomplished this. This is why I have stated that IF the people, the common everyday people, had really drafted AND ratified their own creation of a contract, do you think they would, or rather put you in their position, drafted such a damaging piece of paper called the "Constitution?" I know I would not have. Especially the emergency powers part where once the President took control, constitutionally mind you, that it would be the engine for total control. Such has been the case since 1791. Patrick Henry and the other anti-federalists saw what was happening and the common average man on the street, just like today, said it could not happen and allowed this to happen out of shear ignorance. Today we have most of the people who have no clue what really took place. They cannot fathom why they rape them repeatedly again and cannot claim their unalienable rights. They cannot understand why the so-called Bill of Rights can no longer be used. They cannot understand why the Constitution that they thought was theirs, is not, and cannot be used in the prize courts of admiralty. Simply stated, "enemies have no rights."

What is fascinating is this passage from Solicitor of Lincoln's War Department, William Whiting's book on War Powers, where he wrote;

"The belligerent right of the government to confiscate enemy's real estates, situated in this country, can hardly admit of question. The title is to no inconsiderable part of real estate in each of the original States of the Union, rests upon the validity of confiscation acts, passed by our ancestors against loyal adherents to the crown. Probably none of these States failed to pass and apply these laws. English and American acts of confiscation were recognized by the laws of both countries, and their operation modified by treaties; their validity was never denied. The only authority which either of the States or colonies ever had for passing such laws was derived from the fact that they were belligerents."

Right here it is evident that the States, created the same way the United States was, by the aristocrats, would consider themselves belligerents against the common man on the street who had no say in the drafting and ratifying of any of the constitutions of any of the States. The common man had no money to speak of nor any large amount of real property to be able to become a member of the contract called the State. In all the States you had to have at least 500 pounds sterling or a land mass equivalent to that amount before becoming an elector or even thinking of running for office. This is but another small proof that you and me, the common man of that era, was considered as nothing. Just like we look at street bums of today, they looked at the common man. No dear people, ***** we were never considered part of their posterity **** and never drafted nor ratified any constitution. **** The statement the constitution was "divinely inspired" is so far from the truth that it should be stated that **** it was the "works of the devil." ....." http://www.atgpress.com/inform/wep033.htm

http://www.roytaylorministries.com/am00001.htm

http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...k.cfm?b=Psa&c=2&v=3&t=KJV / http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...cfm?b=Psa&c=2&v=1&t=KJV#1

Ezekiel 17:1-10/John 15:1/Matthew 15:13

The battle is in full swing. Just connecting some dots for those who have eyes to see.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-15   12:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Artisan (#3)

You're very welcome.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-15   12:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)

Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying], Psa 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us......

DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another [Psalm 83:4 and Psalm 2:3 http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Psa&c=2&v=3 ] and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, [NOT: http://www.blueletterbible.org/B...m?b=Gal&c=3&v=28&t=KJV#28 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Gal&c=4&v=25&t=KJV ] a decent respect to the opinions of mankind [ NOT: http://www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Act&c=5&v=29&t=KJV ; Mark 7:9] requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ...... [NOT:

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. http://www.blueletterbible.org/s...cfm?b=Jhn&c=10&v=28&t=KJV ] .....

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm

"America, the land of the free and the home of the brave? or. . . the land of the fee and the home of the slave? The "American Revolution" is as well known an apparition as is the "War For Independence". Sadly, once again the spot-light is beamed upon a massive lie; in fact this one is a double-whammy. Not only was that war NOT a spontaneous uprising against tyranny, we Americans were fooled into believing we "won" that war.

This is great stuff. I've read on this and have a grasp of the implications. I also agree with the following,

No dear people, ***** we were never considered part of their posterity **** and never drafted nor ratified any constitution. **** The statement the constitution was "divinely inspired" is so far from the truth that it should be stated that **** it was the "works of the devil." ....."

which is why I like Eric whoru who always refers to 'george washington and his arisotcrat buddies', and the "CON"-stitution.

I also like these,

Luke 11:46 But he said: Woe to you lawyers also, because you load men with burdens which they cannot bear and you yourselves touch not the packs with one of your fingers.

Luke 11:52 Woe to you lawyers, for you have taken away the key of knowledge. You yourselves have not entered in: and those that were entering in, you have hindered. 53 And as he was saying these things to them, the Pharisees and the lawyers began violently to urge him and to oppress his mouth about many things, 54 Lying in wait for him and seeking to catch something from his mouth, that they might accuse him.

"2You shall not add to the word that I speak to you, neither shall you take away from it: keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you." Deuteronomy Chapter 4

Ecclesiastes Chapter 5 7 If thou shalt see the oppressions of the poor, and violent judgments, and justice perverted in the province, wonder not at this matter: for he that is high hath another higher, and there are others still higher than these: 8 Moreover there is the king that reigneth over all the land subject to him. 9 A covetous man shall not be satisfied with money: and he that loveth riches shall reap no fruit from them: so this also is vanity.

Romans Chapter 12 18 If it be possible, as much as is in you, have peace with all men. 19 Revenge not yourselves, my dearly beloved; but give place unto wrath, for it is written: Revenge is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 But if the enemy be hungry, give him to eat; if he thirst, give him to drink. For, doing this, thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head. 21 Be not overcome by evil: but overcome evil by good. [from here

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-02-15   13:19:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)

This is but another small proof that you and me, the common man of that era, was considered as nothing. Just like we look at street bums of today, they looked at the common man. No dear people, ***** we were never considered part of their posterity **** and never drafted nor ratified any constitution. **** The statement the constitution was "divinely inspired" is so far from the truth that it should be stated that **** it was the "works of the devil." ....."

The Ultimate Delusion: by Stephen Ames

The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it. ... Great Britain to this day collects taxes from the American people. ... www.theforbiddenknowledge...uth/ultimate_delusion.htm :

".....We are living under what the Bible calls Mammon. As written in the subject Index, Mammon is defined as ("Civil law and procedure").

Now turn to the "The Shetars Effect on English Law" -- A Law of the Jews Becomes the Law of the Land, found in "The George Town Law Journal, Vol 71: pages 1179-1200." It is clearly stated in the Law Review that the Jews are the property of the Norman and Anglo-Saxon Kings. It also explains that the Talmud is the law of the land. It explains how the Babylonian Talmud became the law of the land, which is now known as the Uniform Commercial Code which is private international law. The written credit agreement -- the Jewish shetar is a lien on all of the property in the world. The treatise also explains that the Jews are owned by Great Britain and that the Jews are in charge of the Baking system.

We are living under the Babylonian Talmud. [ www.blueletterbible.org/B...m?b=Mic&c=4&v=10&t=KJV#10 / bible.cc/micah/4-13.htm ] It was brought into England in 1066 [ bible.cc/revelation/20-7.htm ] and has been enforced by the Pope, Kings and the various religions ever since. It is total and relentless mind control ["And shall go out to deceive the nations" kingjbible.com/revelation/20.htm ], people are taught to believe in things that do not exist. Private International Law, which is commercial law, only deals with fictions, known as persons. A person is a fictional entity at law, not a living being. See UCC 1-201.

Now before you scream that the UCC is unconstitutional I'm sorry people, you are not a party to any constitution. Read the case cite below.

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it." Padelford, Fay & Co., vs. Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah 14 Ga. 438, 520 You have to understand that Great Britain, (Article six Section one) the United States and the States are the parties to the Constitution not you......"

www.theforbiddenknowledge...uth/ultimate_delusion.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-15   13:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Artisan (#6)

Yes, yes, yes...and Amen.

It's so good to talk to someone who has eyes to see.

Take care.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-15   13:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Artisan (#0)

Deep in my heart I know the man is on the run, if he's alive at all.

Jr.'s transcripts are just studded with strange lines like these.

This one is a gem.

"Deep in my heart" - Why deep in his heart?? Officials with resources don't act on notions in their hearts, but on facts that come up through the pipe from multiple sources.

And then he knows to a moral certainty that Osama is "on the run." But no - he may be dead. Dead and on the run.

I think George is on the rum. His news conferences and interviews were always an insult to the intelligence.

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randge  posted on  2009-02-15   14:53:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: randge (#9)

I think George is on the rum. His news conferences and interviews were always an insult to the intelligence.

Funny! I agree it was either Rum or Valium that W was on.

As for insult to intelligence, my friend you need to you tube Obama and 57 states or Obama and inflate tires or Obama uh err uh.

I fear the worst insult to intelligence is yet to come unless Obama's handlers permanently wire a teleprompter feed to his mouth.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-15   14:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: scrapper2 (#10)

I was thinking about linking and this mug (the One you speak of) on this very post but, quite honestly, I can't stand watching/listening to 'Bama either.

He too is full of glib bullshit. The other day, he maintained that his Strealfromus Plan would "save or create" 3.2 million jobs.

"Save or create" is so much Bush fudge. Lame predictions like this are plainly not grounded in economics, and are just more of the ad lib horse hockey that has become all too nauseatingly familiar the past eight (sixteen? twenty?) years.

No, I cannot bring myself to look at any more youtubes of this character. I've seen all that I can bear.

Lord, bring this rotten dynasty down!

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randge  posted on  2009-02-15   20:30:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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