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Title: Obama Riding the Wave
Source: The New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/opinion/17herbert.html?ref=opinion
Published: Feb 17, 2009
Author: BOB HERBERT
Post Date: 2009-02-17 09:11:54 by war
Keywords: obama, stimulus, president
Views: 567
Comments: 82

Listening to President Obama, I was struck by how well he understands that most voters are not driven by ideology and are not searching for politically orthodox leadership. Most want leaders who speak to their needs — especially in this time of economic crisis — and a government that works.

Republicans in Congress — all but completely united in their effort to build a wall of obstruction in the path of President Obama’s economic revitalization effort — seem to be missing this essential point.

In a conversation with a small group of columnists aboard Air Force One on Friday, the president discussed the fight over his stimulus package, which was in the process of gaining final passage as he flew from Washington to Chicago for a brief rest with his family.

He said that the fact that he’d been rebuffed so far in his quest for bipartisanship would not stop him from reaching out for Republican support.

“Going forward,” he said, “each and every time we’ve got an initiative, I’m going to go to both Democrats and Republicans and I’m going to say, ‘Here’s my best argument for why we need to do this. I want to listen to your counterarguments. If you’ve got better ideas, present them. We will incorporate them into any plans that we make, and we are willing to compromise on certain issues that are important to one side or the other in order to get stuff done.’ ”

When I asked him if there was any reason to believe that the G.O.P. had made a good-faith effort at bipartisanship, given the fact that only three Republicans voted for the stimulus plan in the Senate and none in the House, he said he did not want to question the motives or sincerity of those who opposed the plan.

But he made a point of adding, “Now, I have to say that given that they were running the show for a pretty long time prior to me getting there, and that their theory was tested pretty thoroughly and it’s landed us in the situation where we’ve got over a trillion-dollars’ worth of debt and the biggest economic crisis since the Great Depression, I think I have a better argument in terms of economic thinking.”

He also made it clear that he won’t let his desire for bipartisanship undermine important initiatives. “I’m an eternal optimist,” he said. “That doesn’t mean I’m a sap.”

Mr. Obama’s tone and demeanor during the nearly hourlong interview was a duplicate of his nationally televised press conference last week.

He was relaxed and had complete command of a range of complex issues, including the troubled banking sector, health care reform and the need to do more in terms of innovative education initiatives.

But beyond his specific policies (and whether one supports them or not), Mr. Obama is emerging as the very model of the type of person one would want in high public office. He is intelligent, mature, thoughtful, calm in the face of crises and, if the nation is lucky, maybe even wise.

When asked about the sharp drop in the stock markets after Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner announced an expanded bank bailout plan last week, Mr. Obama replied:

“I am not planning based on a one-day market reaction. In fact, you can argue that a lot of the problems we’re in have to do with everybody planning based on one-day market reactions, or three-month market reactions, and as a consequence nobody was taking the long view.

“My job is to help the country take the long view — to make sure that not only are we getting out of this immediate fix, but we’re not repeating the same cycle of bubble and bust over and over again; that we’re not having the same energy conversation 30 years from now that we had 30 years ago; that we’re not talking about the state of our schools in the exact same ways we were talking about them in the 1980s; and that at some point we say, ‘You know what? If we’re spending more money per-capita on health care than any nation on earth, then you’d think everybody would have coverage and we would see lower costs for average consumers, and we’d have better outcomes.’ ”

Near the end of the interview, the president said that there are certain moments in history when significant change is possible.

“It’s not a certainty,” he said, “but it’s possible.”

He said he believed that it’s very difficult for any single individual to actually set that kind of “momentum” for change in motion. But when that historical wave is there, he said, “I think you can help guide it.”

When asked if we are in one of those moments now, he said, “Yes. I firmly believe that.”

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#14. To: war (#12)

PING

Not many Americans around, and you aint one.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-17   11:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war (#0)

Planted PR piece.

Good Cop vs. Bad Cop.

Our Magnificent Beneficent Almighty Obamessiah versus the twisted nasty evil, hissssssssssssss, Replublicans.

Not that the Republicans are not twisted and evil but that there is no difference between the Obamessiah and them.

My only real question about the article is which PR Agency or Government PsyOperator wrote this for this alleged reporter?

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-17   11:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#14)

Not many Americans around, and you aint one.

My family has been here since the 17th century, squatter.

war  posted on  2009-02-17   11:58:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rotara (#13)

You're no American.

Coming from you that's almost a relief.

war  posted on  2009-02-17   11:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Sam Houston (#1)

He had better worry more about market reactions. The longer the market melts down, the closer his federal government comes to not being able to pay its bills, including even his own salary.

No worries - his Bankster Masters have already paid him off like a minor prince. His salary is just chump change.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-17   12:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rotara (#13)

You're the AmeriKan enemy within.

I embrace the concept of freedom.

You don't.

This nation was founded on nascient precepts of freedom.

You reject them.

Me the enemy? Hardly.

You the enema?

Exactly...

war  posted on  2009-02-17   12:01:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war (#16)

Not many Americans around, and you aint one.

My family has been here since the 17th century, squatter.

ca. 1626 to 1630 here. Of course my Indian ancestors were here a bit longer.

However, residency does not make an American. Being an AMERICAN is a state of mind not longevity of residency.

Either you support the principles of the Declaration of Independence or you are a Tory Pig. Your choice.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-17   12:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#17)

We can tell by the cut of your jib.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-17   12:04:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#20)

However, residency does not make an American. Being an AMERICAN is a state of mind not longevity of residency.

Either you support the principles of the Declaration of Independence or you are a Tory Pig. Your choice.

Exactly. And communists and socialists do not support those principles.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-17   12:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent, war (#20)

War like Vast and others are raising their kids to be cannon fodder in the ME for Israel and Obongo.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-17   12:06:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war (#10)

Welcome to 4um. Let your hair down.

Erectus Walks Amongst Us
I will not go to Auschwitz. I have ordered the book. Da-do-run-run-run Da-do-run-run.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-02-17   12:11:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent (#20)

Either you support the principles of the Declaration of Independence...

The Declaration was a summation of some of the principles that came to be through the enlightenment.

Amazing that those who espouse D/I it today are anything but...

Words withouty action are meaningless. Words without contemporary meaning are inactionable.

war  posted on  2009-02-17   12:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Cynicom (#21)

We can tell by the cut of your jib.

Seeing things?

war  posted on  2009-02-17   12:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Original_Intent (#20)

ca. 1626 to 1630 here.

You're either Dutch or the progeny of debtors.

war  posted on  2009-02-17   12:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#24)

Welcome to 4um. Let your hair down.

I tie it back when I eat...

war  posted on  2009-02-17   12:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom, Original_Intent, war (#23)

War like Vast and others are raising their kids to be cannon fodder in the ME for Israel and Obongo.

war's kids will never be cannon fodder.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-17   12:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#23)

War like Vast and others are raising their kids to be cannon fodder in the ME for Israel

Hardly...

war  posted on  2009-02-17   12:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#23)

#14. To: Rotara (#2)

Israel and the Arabs, Persians, Chinese, Soviets, EuroCommies, etc. can sink or swim on their own now.

See it's not hard to get along with me...

war posted on 2009-02-12 18:49:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2009-02-17   12:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: scrapper2 (#29)

Correct.

war  posted on  2009-02-17   12:24:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#6)

The first paragraph of your posted article defined the rise of Hitler-the- killer-of-six-million-jews. Obama will be no different in the end, he's a mulatto monster who will exert his will through the FedGov, he's the political brother to that communist terrorist Nelson Mandela.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-02-17   12:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: X-15 (#33)

Listening to President Obama, I was struck by how well he understands that most voters are not driven by ideology and are not searching for politically orthodox leadership. Most want leaders who speak to their needs — especially in this time of economic crisis — and a government that works.

The first paragraph of your posted article defined the rise of Hitler any politician who succeeds into power during a time of catharis...

war  posted on  2009-02-17   12:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#28)

I tie it back when I eat...

Crew cuts are much better.

Erectus Walks Amongst Us
I will not go to Auschwitz. I have ordered the book. Da-do-run-run-run Da-do-run-run.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-02-17   12:51:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#35)

Crew cuts are much better.

I sweat more with short hair then I do long...it's past my shoulders right now but I will probably cut it sometime a round year end and give to Lox of Love...

war  posted on  2009-02-17   12:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: war (#34)

Hitler, I'm going with Hitler. I'm equating Obama with Hitler. Obama=Hitler. After all, they're both socialist democrats.

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-02-17   12:57:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: X-15 (#37)

Hitler is nothing like Obama and Obama is nothing like Hitler. It's not discussing beyond that. The words necessary to do so would be too big for you.

war  posted on  2009-02-17   12:59:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: war (#38)

A picture is worth a thousand words:

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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-02-17   13:21:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#38)

Hitler is nothing like Obama and Obama is nothing like Hitler.

There are lots of similarities.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-17   13:26:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: X-15 (#39)

In your case, 999 were unneccessary..."Asshole" suffices quite succinctly as a descriptive for you...

war  posted on  2009-02-17   13:31:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Old Friend, X-15 (#40)

See you on another thread...when you devolve into "nazi" it's time for your warm milk and nap...

war  posted on  2009-02-17   13:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: war (#41)

ROFL!! Call the waaaaaambulance!!! Hurts to see your Fuhrer revealed for what he really is??

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-02-17   13:35:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: war (#42)

Hitler killed 6 million Jews.

How many million babies will be killed with Obamas blessing while president?

That would make him worse then Hitler.

He is running a corrupt secret government.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-17   13:36:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Old Friend (#40)

That first video really brings it all together. I hope the idiots who voted for Obummer kill themselves.

_________________________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2009-02-17   13:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Old Friend (#44)

Hitler killed 6 million Jews.

HItler killed 18MM in the Holocaust...not just Jews.

How many million babies will be killed with Obamas blessing while president?

Non-sequitur

war  posted on  2009-02-17   13:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: war (#46)

HItler killed 18MM in the Holocaust...not just Jews.

I don't know the exact numbers. No one does for sure. It was a very large number.

Obama is a murderer at heart. He must hate babies to want so many of them dead.

He should just take the raft back to Africa from whence he came.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-17   13:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: X-15 (#45)

That first video really brings it all together. I hope the idiots who voted for Obummer kill themselves.

We may have to do that ourselves someday. Hopefully they all just get aids and die. Since most of them are homos anyway.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-17   13:46:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Old Friend (#47)

Obama is a murderer at heart. He must hate babies to want so many of them dead.

If you don't want an abortion don't have one. Obama is not forcing anyone to have an abortion. He is not advocating that anyone should have an abortion. Your statement lacks aby kind of underpinning that would make it either logical or true. Abortion was legal at the founding of this nation.

war  posted on  2009-02-17   13:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: war (#46)

Non-sequitur

In other words. Who cares. Pathetic

Obama is stupider then a 12 year old.

Or just plain evil as night is black.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-17   13:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Old Friend (#47)

He should just take the raft back to Africa from whence he came.

Wrong direction. He's "from" Hawaii...or are you one of those BC Moonbats too?

war  posted on  2009-02-17   13:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: war (#49)

. He is not advocating that anyone should have an abortion. Your statement lacks aby kind of underpinning that would make it either logical or true.

No he's not advocating it by spendnig millions of taxpayer dollars on it.

Are you for killing babies too?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-17   13:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: war (#51)

Anyone who spends millions to hide their birth certificate is hiding something.

Buy a clue.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-17   13:50:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Old Friend (#50)

IF she doesn't want to have an abortion she doesn't have to have one. What is so hard to understand about that?

war  posted on  2009-02-17   13:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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