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Title: 10,000+ TROOPS TO AFGHANISTAN
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URL Source: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/02/17/1799010.aspx
Published: Feb 17, 2009
Author: Jim Miklaszewski and Courtney Kube
Post Date: 2009-02-17 16:04:55 by Jethro Tull
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:50 PM by Domenico Montanaro Filed Under: White House, Security From NBC’s Jim Miklaszewski and Courtney Kube The White House is expected to announce the deployment of more than 10,000 additional U.S. forces to Afghanistan "within the hour," according to Pentagon officials. The Pentagon will follow with details on numbers and identification of troops to be deployed. The troop deployment to Afghanistan will be announced as a "remissioning," meaning many, if not most, of the forces were already scheduled to deploy to Iraq but will now be diverted to Afghanistan. That will reportedly include two Marine combat battalions and one Army combat brigade. According to one Pentagon official, because this "remissioning" will, in fact, redirect troops from Iraq to Afghanistan, it will be politically characterized as a "drawdown" of U.S. military forces in Iraq, permitting the White House to claim in this one announcement that President Obama is making good on two campaign promises -- withdrawing forces from Iraq and sending additional forces to Afghanistan. If he hasn't already, Defense Secretary Gates is expected to sign the deployment order today to send the more than 10,000 U.S. Marines and soldiers to Afghanistan in the spring.
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#27. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
I trips over to KOS once inna while where salvation is always just over the next rise. It's looking pretty gloomy with respect to this Afghanistan thing today. It didn't wash well. 200+ posts with precious few defenders amongst the crowd. This soufflé smells so bad even the dyed-in-the-wool are turning up their noses. I particularly liked "I am sick of the oligarths." www.dailykos.c om/comments/2009/2/17/192623/962/1#c1 Pres.Obama will look more like LBJ than Lincoln(n (17+ / 0-) Recommended by:paradox, msl, mattman, daisycolorado, Paul Goodman, dancewater, Alkibiades, terryhallinan, 0wn, rubine, Support Civil Liberty, danoland, Lavocat, divineorder, TNThorpe, atheistben, Patrick from Toronto by NYCartist on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 04:33:21 PM PST [ Reply to This | Recommend ] Afraid so. (12+ / 0-) Recommended by:GreenSooner, mattman, Paul Goodman, dancewater, 0wn, david mizner, rubine, Support Civil Liberty, haruki, Lavocat, divineorder, TNThorpe Terrible blunder but long signalled. Best, Terry by terryhallinan on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 04:35:10 PM PST [ Parent | Reply to This | Recommend ] Yup. A dumb idea we saw from far away. (12+ / 0-) Recommended by:paradox, GreenSooner, mattman, Paul Goodman, dancewater, 0wn, david mizner, wyvern, rubine, Support Civil Liberty, Lavocat, divineorder Doesn't become less dumb up close. ... by haruki on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 04:37:38 PM PST [ Parent | Reply to This | Recommend ] I think Obama was left with a lose/lose decision (4+ / 0-) Recommended by:mattman, koNko, pvlb, ShowMeMoBlue by a ass backwards Bush Foreign Policy that has neglected Afghanistan since 2003. nor can we consume the world's resources without regard to effect. For the world has changed, and we must change with it. - Barack Obama by Lefty Coaster on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 04:52:43 PM PST [ Parent | Reply to This | Recommend ] Yeah, he has said so many times along (0+ / 0-) the way. Julie's Art Gallery. by Zoltan on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 04:37:46 PM PST [ Parent | Reply to This | Recommend ] Indeed. (7+ / 0-) Recommended by:paradox, mattman, rubine, haruki, josephcast, TNThorpe, sturunner Given the bipartisan consensus in favor of militarism, we will only adopt a peaceful foreign policy if a mass movement demands it. I wish I saw one on the horizon. But I don't, especially when the Democrats have effectively coopted the masssive peace movement that began in the wake of the Iraq War. Nobody knows what kind of trouble we're in / Nobody seems to think it all might happen again by GreenSooner on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 04:49:55 PM PST [ Parent | Reply to This | Recommend ] Money? (1+ / 0-) Recommended by:Support Civil Liberty Given the bipartisan consensus in favor of militarism, we will only adopt a peaceful foreign policy if a mass movement demands it. How can we afford this now? by Jagger on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 05:11:40 PM PST [ Parent | Reply to This | Recommend ] The demos and Obama... n/t (0+ / 0-) A million + dead in Iraq by our hand. by rubine on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 05:18:23 PM PST [ Parent | Reply to This | Recommend ] I meant to say: (0+ / 0-) One of the things that pisses me off about Obama is that he has effectively co- opted the progressives. He is so nice and charming that he "looks" progressive. Then... I am sick of the oligarths. Good interview: Thanks Bill Moyer! A million + dead in Iraq by our hand. by rubine on Tue Feb 17, 2009 at 05:32:08 PM PST [ Parent | Reply to This | Recommend ]
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Bravo for honesty, at least there anyway. It is impossible to have been against Iraq and for this looming mess. This in many ways will be far worse than Iraq.
Broadly speaking we are there to promote the New World Order. Black Obama appears to be going about it more intelligently than Genghis W. Bush, but chances are America will end up like Germany did in 1945 with our cities laying in smoking ruins. If Black Obama fails to toe the Zionist line he could met the same fate of JFK, Joe Biden is standing by to take the place of LBJ
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
Eddie Cantor?????
I get that, and here's a stark examply to offer as proof. The war in Afghanistan has made allies of Obama voters, Bush voters, FReepers, Limbaughites, neocons, and the MSM. With this bunch as a cheering section section, anyone with an ounce of sense has to realize it's very, very wrong.
Yes it is. We need patriotic music to help with the effort.
LOL!!!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Nice Irish lad that was all for war. (for others)
An ultimate example of the Rear Guard.
Listening to Savage on the way home tonight. He was and probably still is ripping Obama for sending 17000 troops to Afghanistan. He wants to know how Obama can justify it. He says he doesn't see how it is winnable since Britain and Russia failed in the past. Wasn't he the guy calling for us to attack them in the first place. Kinda funny
What's funny about it?
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Where is Vast, robin, Arristides and the rest of the O"Piles??????? In hiding, preparing for deployment for their children, or wringing their hands in joy??????
First it was 10,000, then it went to 17,000 and now the word is MORE than 17,000 going right away.
I'm sure you're right about Savage.
Cindy Sheehan was kicked under the bus as soon as Obama came on the scene.
This charade reminds me somewhat of WW2. The Japs kicked our ass at Pearl Harbor so we showed them, we invaded Africa.
They've cocooned for the duration. Their ability to do so is a finely honed adaptation to their environment. It provides them with a defense mechanism that protects them from humiliation, abuse and embarrassment. They will pupate in the fullness of time in strange and odd forms armed with new rationalizations and fresh soporifics.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Because I said it was.
We sweated Clinton for eight, then more sweat for Bush for eight, and now Clinton is de facto President again. With this in mind, will they be taking Bush out of the asylum for rerun in eight years??? Just wondering.
I'm keeping this.
It'll be his half-hispanic nephew, George P. Bush, son of Jeb Bush, brother to recently departed POTUS George W. Bush, son of ex-POTUS George H.W. Bush, son of Senator Prescott S. Bush, son of Samuel P. Bush (advisor to Hoover). Hey, I just made a jewish-like declaration of lineage ;-)
_________________________________________________________________________ Did you read where I emailed Obongo wanting a new set of tires????? He just gave a local bank $26 million, I spect two tires wont be too much to ask for?
God is high in his heaven, and the tsar is far away. - Russian proverb.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. You could be right. In Iraq there was a long standing civilization, a society, a learned people, infrastructure, a legal system albeit highjacked by Saddam and the Baath Party. Iraq was a cohesive nation before we arrived and tuirned it upside down. Gradually Iraq will right itself once we leave. Iraq has a history. In Afghanistan there is no there there. Afghanistan is compromised of a number of squabbling Muslim tribes of very very primitive people who take pride in being primitive and unruled and unconquered and untouched by anything more modern than 14th century civilization. The Afghans unite against a common enemy. If you're not an Afghan, you are the enemy. Seriously, this is no tall tale - Afghans like kicking around human skulls for sport - kind of an Afghanistan version of soccer. It's mountainous and cold and unwelcoming to foreign invaders. That's why Afghans like living in Afghanistan. Canada with the largest contingent of NATO forces in Afghanistan is bailing in 2011. No more extensions on the exit date. The Afghanistan adventure is exceedingly unpopular with our best ally - the ally that walks the talk unlike the financial parasite who shall remain unmentioned. What other ally is going to send troops to that hell hole once the Canadians leave? You think the Frenchies or the Krauts are going to send troops to aid The Professor? Doubters. They are not soooooo stoooopid as Obama is. Americans are so screwed if Obama takes on Afghanistan.
If????????????????????? Good heavens...Lyndon Obama will have HIS war. Go down in history as the greatest war time President. Yes he will.
Good heavens...Lyndon Obama will have HIS war. Go down in history as the greatest war time President. Yes he will. You said it, cyni. Barry Lyndon Baines Obummer, the War Professor, and what a bummer Afghanistan will be.
I can see it now, President for Life, Obummer astride his white steed leading the victorious troops down Fifth Ave. After his last battle subjugating the last vile vestiges of Americans.
That was an insanely good post, scrapper. You've boiled the problem down to the essence. Shootin' half-inch groups tonite, what?
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. I can see it now - America's Last President.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. You prognosticatin again son or you got a xtal ball?
If 158,000 troops can't subdue Iraq, how can 58,000 do the job in Afghanistan? They can't. Afghanistan's population is larger than that of Iraq. Its area is 50 percent bigger, with infinitely rougher terrain. Even with today's SURGE, it's spit in a bucket. The Os are a disgusting bunch, but now that they agree with Bush/McCain and Mother Israel, I find them to be common blood soaked war pigs.
My xtal balls tell me it's all over. I'm getting my suit cleaned so's to be ready to go out and run up Old Glory and sing the Star Spangled Banger one more time before they pull down the curtain.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Author...author... Take a bow.
I really hurt because I remember when Americans were truly free. Other than being forced to go to school, we were free.
Motherwhut Israel, you say?
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. Good observations about James Michener's book, "Caravans." For a turtle, you are quite well read. ;)
Shootin' half-inch groups tonite, what? Thanks for the compliment. But I must tell you that words are my weapons and hockey is my game. Still okay with me?
Roger. I'm quite out of wind tryin' to keep up with you, scrapper.
Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA. You forgot how Super-Duper Smart Turtle is. For example, last night I slept on top of von Mises' "Human Action" and when I woke up this morning I am now an expert on Austrian economics.
Don't forget Russia to the North. I think this will be the end of the 52,000 or so troops in Afghanistan, they will be decimated, just another pin prick to the empire, a slow death by 1000 cuts.
but what of the candiate of PEACE?
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#28. To: randge (#27)
200+ posts with precious few defenders amongst the crowd.
#29. To: Jethro Tull (#26)
WHY ARE WE THERE?
#30. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
#31. To: Zoroaster (#29)
#32. To: Cynicom (#30)
#33. To: X-15 (#23)
"Look out, a bruddah be comin' thru dat bitch dey call Afganystan..."
Lord Acton
#34. To: Jethro Tull (#32)
Yes it is. We need patriotic music to help with the effort.
#35. To: Cynicom (#34)
#36. To: Jethro Tull (#32)
#37. To: Old Friend (#36)
Wasn't he the guy calling for us to attack them in the first place. Kinda funny
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#38. To: Jethro Tull (#35)
#39. To: randge (#37)
#40. To: Old Friend (#36)
#41. To: Cynicom (#38)
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#41)
Afghanistan.
#43. To: Cynicom (#38)
Where is Vast, robin, Arristides and the rest of the O"Piles???????
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#44. To: randge (#37)
What's funny about it?
#45. To: randge (#43)
#46. To: randge (#43)
They will pupate in the fullness of time in strange and odd forms armed with new rationalizations and fresh soporifics.
#47. To: Cynicom (#45)
will they be taking Bush out of the asylum for rerun in eight years???
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#48. To: X-15 (#47)
#49. To: Cynicom (#48)
spect two tires wont be too much to ask for?
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#50. To: Jethro Tull (#28)
(Edited)
This in many ways will be far worse than Iraq.
#51. To: scrapper2 (#50)
Americans are so screwed if Obama takes on Afghanistan.
#52. To: Cynicom (#51)
If?????????????????????
#53. To: scrapper2, Jethro tull (#52)
what a bummer Afghanistan will be.
#54. To: scrapper2 (#50)
Afghans like kicking around human skulls for sport
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#55. To: Cynicom (#53)
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#56. To: randge (#55)
I can see it now - America's Last President.
#57. To: scrapper2 (#50)
#58. To: Cynicom (#56)
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#59. To: Jethro Tull (#57)
The Os are a disgusting bunch, but now that they agree with Bush/McCain and Mother Israel, I find them to be common blood soaked war pigs.
#60. To: randge, Jethro tull (#58)
I'm getting my suit cleaned so's to be ready to go out and run up Old Glory and sing the Star Spangled Banger one more time before they pull down the curtain.
#61. To: Cynicom (#60)
www.righttokeepandbeararms.com
#62. To: Turtle (#25)
(Edited)
Read James Michener's novel about Afghanistan, "Caravans." The terrain and weather there is so bad the only thing the Chinese have to do to us is point and laugh.
#63. To: randge (#54)
That was an insanely good post, scrapper. You've boiled the problem down to the essence.
#64. To: scrapper2 (#63)
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#65. To: scrapper2 (#62)
For a turtle, you are quite well read. ;)
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#66. To: Cynicom (#12)
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