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Title: Obama's Yes We Can Afghan War
Source: Time
URL Source: http://www.time.com/time/nation/art ... ?xid=rss-topstories-cnnpartner
Published: Feb 18, 2009
Author: Mark Thompson
Post Date: 2009-02-18 17:08:15 by Rupert_Pupkin
Keywords: Obama, Afghanistan, War
Views: 232
Comments: 22

Wednesday, Feb. 18, 2009 Obama's Yes-We-Can War: More Troops to Afghanistan By Mark Thompson / Washington

Afghanistan became President Obama's war on Tuesday, when he ordered two more U.S. combat brigades into the fight. He will send 17,000 combat troops to join the 36,000-strong U.S. force already in the theater. The fact that the units now ordered to Afghanistan had originally been slated for Iraq underscores the new Administration's shift in priorities.

The reinforcements include about 8,000 Marines from Camp Lejeune, N.C., who should be in Afghanistan by late spring, and a 4,000-strong Army brigade from Fort Lewis, Wash., which should arrive in the summer. Those units will be joined by about 5,000 more Army "enablers" to provide logistical support. (See images of Afghanistan's mean streets)

The White House announcement took subtle shots at the priorities of the Bush Administration, stressing that the request from U.S. commanders in Afghanistan for the additional troops was "months old". President Obama's written statement explained, "This increase is necessary to stabilize a deteriorating situation in Afghanistan, which has not received the strategic attention, direction and resources it urgently requires." (See photos of "Pakistan's Vulnerable North-West Passage".)

If Army General David McKiernan, the U.S. commander in Afghanistan, gets his way, the total increase over the coming year will be 30,000. McKiernan has said he needs to beef up U.S. forces in Afghanistan to roll back a growing Taliban insurgency, especially before the presidential election currently slated for August. Indeed, U.S. officials say they have only 40% of the American officers needed to train the Afghan army to take over security duties at some point in the future But sending any additional troops to Afghanistan would require reducing U.S. troop levels in Iraq, and Obama has ordered a review of U.S. strategy in Afghanistan before committing to further reinforcements. Defense Secretary Robert Gates explained last week that the units ordered to Afghanistan on Tuesday had to be given their marching orders before the Administration's strategy review could be completed because of the pressing need for reinforcements.

See pictures of British soldiers in Afghanistan.)

Obama is keenly aware of the limitations on what his reinforcements can achieve. "I am absolutely convinced that you cannot solve the problem of Afghanistan, the Taliban, the spread of extremism in that region solely through military means," he told an interviewer on Tuesday. But more troops are needed simply to arrest and begin to reverse a perilous slide in NATO's fortunes in Afghanistan. (See "Hidden Afghanistan".)

With the Taliban growing in confidence and feeling the wind at its back, the bad news out of Afghanistan just keeps getting worse for the U.S. NATO commanders have long expressed frustration at the failure of the Pakistani military to prevent Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters maintaining sanctuaries in Pakistan from which they can launch attacks inside Afghanistan. But Pakistan's announcement on Monday of a peace agreement to accommodate the domestic Taliban insurgency in the Swat Valley suggests that an all-out war against militants on their soil is not what Pakistan's generals have in mind. And the supply lines that funnel food, fuel and war materiel to U.S. forces in Afghanistan, already imperiled by militant attacks in Pakistan, may face a further setback this week when the parliament in Kyrgyzstan votes on whether or not to kick the U.S. out of the Manas airbase, which has played a key role in air support in Afghanistan. The U.N. just announced that 2,118 civilians died in fighting in Afghanistan in 2008, a 40% hike as the war grows ever more bloody. And, last week, the Taliban "welcomed" U.S. envoy Richard Holbrooke to Kabul by launching an audacious terror attack on three government buildings in the capital, leaving 26 people dead.

Having watched rival armies fight their way back and forth across the country for the past 30 years since the Soviets invaded, Afghans have become adept at accommodating themselves with the likely winner at any given moment. Right now, the trends are not moving in Washington's favor, and that fact is recognized by the Afghan citizenry. "There's been a major shift towards acceptance of the Taliban," military scholar Anthony Cordesman told a congressional panel last week. He noted that polling in Afghanistan shows "the number of people who feel the United States has performed well in Afghanistan has been cut in half in the last three years," from 68% in 2005 to 32% now.

Hardly an auspicious moment, then, for Obama to put his stamp on the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan, but a commander-in-chief doesn't always have the luxury of choice. As a senator, Obama had criticized the "surge" of nearly 30,000 additional U.S. troops into Iraq two years ago. Now, as commander in chief, he has begun ordering what may turn out to be a similar increase into Afghanistan. Of course, he had maintained on the campaign trail that Afghanistan, not Iraq, was the "right" place to wage war on terror, but his strategy review reflects the fact that many have begun to question the goals and focus of the U.S. mission there.

Obama began his terse statement Tuesday by acknowledging that "there is no more solemn duty as President than the decision to deploy our armed forces into harm's way." He has been personally writing letters to the families of each U.S. soldier killed in Afghanistan and Iraq, hand signing them "Barack." Such letters no doubt will become more difficult to write in the months ahead, when the casualties begin to include some of those he ordered into combat.


Poster Comment:

17,000 additional troops is just the beginning. We're looking at a full-scale occupation of not only Afghanistan, but of Pakistan in the long haul.

Can you say "Bush's third term?"

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#1. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#0)

Can you say "Bush's third term?"

Well, yes, but honestly, it is the Clintons that are in charge?????????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-18   17:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

Well, yes, but honestly, it is the Clintons that are in charge?????????

Just goes to prove that it doesn't matter a damn whether we get another Clinton, another Bush, or one of their stand-ins in the White House.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-18   17:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#0)

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Look out! Brudda man be comin' thru dat bitch dey call Afganystan!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-18   17:18:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#2)

Just goes to prove that it doesn't matter a damn whether we get another Clinton, another Bush, or one of their stand-ins in the White House.

Agreed...

This new foray into Afghan/Paki was set long ago.

All Obama had to say was...NO...

He did not so that tells us he is part and parcel of the program. McKooK would be doing the same so my not voting at least was not an endorsement for this new war.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-18   17:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#4)

All Obama had to say was...NO...

When we're bogged down 4 years from now in Pakistan, do you think any of the anti-war Obamaphiles will finally wake up and smell the coffee?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-18   17:24:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#5)

When we're bogged down 4 years from now in Pakistan, do you think any of the anti-war Obamaphiles will finally wake up and smell the coffee?

No.

One thing for certain. We will NEVER leave the Middle East. We will be there somewhere as long as Jews own and operate our government.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-18   19:46:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#4)

All Obama had to say was...NO...

Where are 4um's past and present Obot contingent?

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-02-18   19:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: wbales (#7)

Where are 4um's past and present Obot contingent?

In their hidey hole at robins.

If Obongo had announced that no more troops for Afghan and those present would be out in a year, I would be the first to offer thanks.

In reality, WE ALL KNOW Obongo will do as told just as did Bush.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-18   20:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8)

WE ALL KNOW Obongo will do as told just as did Bush.

Yes, WE do.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-02-18   20:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Obamaphiles (#0)

"the number of people who feel the United States has performed well in Afghanistan has been cut in half in the last three years," from 68% in 2005 to 32% now.

Hardly an auspicious moment, then, for Obama to put his stamp on the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan, but a commander-in-chief doesn't always have the luxury of choice.

since when has the will of the people been a consideration? His campaign anti- war rhetoric was just that.

when are the Ophiles going to admit they've been had?

christine  posted on  2009-02-18   20:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Nolu_Chan (#0)

Can you say "Bush's third term?"

lol

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-18   20:58:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Christine (#10)

when are the Ophiles going to admit they've been had?

Probably never. I looked at the Poophole's forum today, they're going through some pretty weird mental contortions to support O'boingo's treason.

It's dangerous to change things too fast. Doing just the opposite of Bush isn't the way to do things. Rendition is necessary NOW. Etc.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-02-18   20:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Christine (#10)

At least Mike Rivero seems to have come out of his stupor nicely.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-02-18   21:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Christine, Jethro Tull, Itistoolate, Diana, All (#0)

Obama is in for a huge surprise. If you don't break the will of the population, you're going to lose any war. History is clear on that. The Afghans treat personal death like a sport. Sometimes you win; sometimes ....

Right now, our side is holding Kabul & that's about all. They are sending in the wrong troops & equipment.

Peter, Paul & Mary had it right - "...when will they ev-ver learn?"


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2009-02-18   21:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Esso (#13)

very much so...however, knowing all he knows, it's still suspect that he could fall for it at all.

christine  posted on  2009-02-18   21:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: SKYDRIFTER (#14)

There are now only 5 nations on the world left without a Rothschild controlled central bank: Iran; North Korea; Sudan; Cuba; and Libya. ALL LISTED AS THE AXIS OF EVIL BY GEORGE W. BUSH! CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK!
www.lookingglassnews.org/...ommentary.php?storyid=121

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-02-18   21:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: SKYDRIFTER (#14)

Obama is in for a huge surprise.

i respectfully disagree. if WE know this, He must know it. imo, He is doing the will of His masters. remember, He kept Gates, et al at the Pentagon.

christine  posted on  2009-02-18   21:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Christine (#17)

He has his puppeteers, but I honestly think he believes there's a chance - per effective "handling."

Afghanistan is about the opium supply; there's a lot of leverage on Obama, over that.

No crystal balls; we'll see.

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2009-02-18   21:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: SKYDRIFTER (#18)

Afghanistan is about the opium supply

agreed

christine  posted on  2009-02-18   21:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Christine (#17)

You have it right. This is the same argument I have towards Paul Craig Roberts and the entire congress since 1913 regarding the Fed Reserve ... If I know it they know it.

If a thousand men were not to pay their tax bills this year, that would not be a violent and bloody measure, as it would be to pay them, and enable the State to commit violence and shed innocent blood.

Henry David Thoreau - 1849

noone222  posted on  2009-02-18   21:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Christine, Obamaphiles (#10) (Edited)

His campaign anti- war rhetoric was just that...when are the Ophiles going to admit they've been had?

Anti-war Obamaphiles will admit they've been had around the same time that Bush's die-hard 25 percenters admit that the President who turned a half trillion surplus into a trillion plus deficit wasn't the conservative hero they cracked him up to be.

In four years, Obama will also have his 25 percenters.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-19   11:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Esso (#12)

they're going through some pretty weird mental contortions to support O'boingo's treason.

A lot of people prefer pre-conceive notions and partisan loyalty to facts.

Have you ever noticed how the people at DailyKos defend Obama for doing the things they attacked Bush on, while back in Freeperville, they attack Obama for doing the same things that they used to defend in Bush?

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=95892

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-19   12:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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