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Title: Stimulus a Landmark Victory for Obama
Source: Creators Syndicate/RealClear Politics
URL Source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar ... lus_a_landmark_victory_fo.html
Published: Feb 19, 2009
Author: Joe Conason
Post Date: 2009-02-19 08:28:23 by war
Keywords: obama, stimulus
Views: 528
Comments: 42

With President Obama's signature affixed to the economic stimulus bill, his landmark victory can be put in proper political context. Regardless of that bill's manifest imperfections and the messy legislative process, the new administration achieved a difficult objective on the tightest possible schedule. His Republican opponents congratulate themselves for remaining unified in defeat and whine about the president's refusal to capitulate to them -- but in fact it is they who have failed in the initial episode of a confrontation that will certainly continue for the coming four years.

It is impossible to understand what happened in Washington and the nation over the past few weeks without recognizing that the stimulus is historic in size and scope. Even if the spending plans ought to have been even larger, as many economists advocated, this $787-billion package represents an enormous departure from the conservative ideology (if not the actual fiscal practice) that has ruled American politics over the past three decades.

Overcoming the strong institutional bias against deficit spending on this scale is an accomplishment, even in the current climate of fear. The false notion that government should never spend more than it collects in revenue still exerts a powerful influence on the minds of voters -- and was reinforced by misinformed media commentary throughout the debate over the stimulus.

Entering the Oval Office, Obama had set a daunting and somewhat contradictory set of priorities for himself. He had promised to remake the American economy even as he tried to revive it, with green jobs, better health care and improved schools. Economic conditions grew increasingly dire as he and his newly assembled team tried to create a plan to reverse the deflating spiral of dread and despair.

At the same time, he had also vowed to break the partisan deadlock in Washington by reaching out to the Republican opposition with respect and friendship. Many members of his own party doubted the wisdom of that course, knowing that the embittered minority was unlikely to respond in kind -- and of course they didn't. But had the president rolled over the Republicans from the beginning, he would rightly have been blamed for violating the trust he had earned during the campaign among independents and at least some Republicans.

In his effort to honor that pledge of bipartisanship, he surrendered too much too early in negotiations over the stimulus. But in the end, he won -- and if he must return to Capitol Hill for more spending, as he almost surely will, then he need not make the same mistake again.

Nearly every poll now says that Obama's popularity and approval ratings remain at extraordinary levels. Just as important, he has displayed the capacity to persuade the public that his policies deserve support, as he did when he finally began to campaign on behalf of the stimulus last week. The latest Gallup survey shows that support for the stimulus rose markedly among Democrats and stabilized among both independents and Republicans as soon as he started speaking out forcefully.

Not only did the president win the debate over his bill, but he also rebutted the Republican argument over tax cuts versus spending, according to Gallup's Feb. 9 poll. By 50 percent to 42 percent, most Americans believe that government spending will do more to spur economic growth than tax cuts -- a stunning repudiation of conservative ideology. Although Republicans tend to prefer tax cuts by wide margins, Democrats remain convinced that spending works better and, ominously for the right, so do independents by a margin of 50 percent to 36 percent.

The Republicans slapped themselves on the back for denying the president a single vote in the House of Representatives, but the basic fact is that they could not come close to sustaining a Senate filibuster against this bill. Underlying that reality is the emptiness of their fiscal rhetoric and the paucity of their ideas. Out in major states such as Florida and California, their own G.O.P. governors have spoken out in favor of the stimulus because the party has no program beyond tax cuts for the wealthy.

So the approval ratings of the Republican Party and the Congressional minority declined during this struggle, while the ratings of the Democrats and the Congressional leadership improved, despite their uneven performance. Those numbers should bolster the determination of the president and his party to push ahead -- and to push back when they meet obstruction, as they inevitably will.

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#3. To: lodwick (#2)

Buckwheat's bailout bill will truly suck for the vast majority of us.

EVERYTHING the government does truly sucks for the vast majority of us.

Everything.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-02-19   9:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#1)

People on this site seem to have a weird fixation on all things Hebrew...

war  posted on  2009-02-19   9:56:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Esso (#3)

EVERYTHING the government does truly sucks for the vast majority of us.

Everything.

A big Amen! to that.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-02-19   9:59:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#0)

historic in size and scope

Joe so wants him.

Erectus Walks Amongst Us
I will not go to Auschwitz. I have ordered the book. Da-do-run-run-run Da-do-run-run.

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-02-19   10:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#4)

People on this site seem to have a weird fixation on all things Hebrew...

Juri Lina boils it down to this...Jews GET money, they do not earn money.

Fixation????

Other sites where you have explored are Jew sites, top to bottom. This forum is not. If you have a love affair with them, try ElPee, Lucys, or FreakRepublic, you will be among kith and kin on all of them.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-19   11:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

Other sites where you have explored are Jew sites, top to bottom. This forum is not. If you have a love affair with them, try ElPee, Lucys, or FreakRepublic, you will be among kith and kin on all of them.

Love affair? Interesting choice of words when what you really want to say is "positive obsession" to contrast me with your negative obsession.

That said...Judiaca is not an obsession for me on either side of the fulcrum...

war  posted on  2009-02-19   11:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#8)

You have to excuse our resident loony. He also wants to nuke Israel. The guy is a certified loon who hates anything to do with Jews. He says he was in world war 2. I don't know if he is telling the truth about that. But if he was it was probably on the German side. If you know what I mean.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-19   11:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Old Friend (#9)

...who hates anything to do with Jews.

Seems like it...

war  posted on  2009-02-19   11:24:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#8)

That said...Judiaca is not an obsession for me on either side of the fulcrum...

Well, would it confuse you to consider Jew as a culture not a race????

You do understand that ALL semites are people of color??? Asians by original disposition, Jews and Arabs blood brothers but oh my, the hatred.

Dont let "race" mold your thinking, use culture as a barometer, it works better.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-19   11:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#11)

Well, would it confuse you to consider Jew as a culture not a race????

No why?

You do understand that ALL semites are people of color???

Diapsora...ever hear of it?

war  posted on  2009-02-19   11:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#11)

Make that diaspora...

war  posted on  2009-02-19   11:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#13)

You do seem to be greatly defensive about "Jews"?

If you are Jew, it might be understandable, if not then it is a mystery.

Are you Jew by race or culture?

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-19   11:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#14)

Come on tell us. How many Jews did you kill as a German soldier?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-19   11:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#14)

You do seem to be greatly defensive about "Jews"?

ROFLMAO...

Look at it this way...my level of defense is equal to your level of "jew" paranoia. I'll let you determine tha latter in gauging the former.

Are you Jew by race or culture?

I'm descended directly from Edward Pantagenat and Thomas Cromwell, dickweed...go fuck yourself with this shit...

war  posted on  2009-02-19   12:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Old Friend (#15)

Were they Jews by culture or race????

See I have to know, cause if you were to peak under the covers, you find that over 500,000 Jews served in Hitlers military, many Generals and a few field Marshalls. Of course you knew that didnt you, just forgot to bring it up.

If you look hard enough on internet you will find now and then photos of Hitler and General Erhard Milch, Goerings number two man, the man that bombed Rotterdam AFTER they surrendered.

Of course I know you knew all of that, didnt you. If you really are interested, I will take time to show you a list of Jew Generals in Hitlers military, and oh yes, a few Admirals.

Killed Germans???? My brother killed a few and then they killed him, thanks for asking.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-19   12:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Old Friend (#15)

Come on tell us. How many Jews did you kill as a German soldier?

More like he get spurned by one because he's a dork...

war  posted on  2009-02-19   12:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#16)

Good heavens, such language from a gentleman of English culture, shame on you.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-19   12:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war (#16)

You seem to be a smug, unhappy little man.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-02-19   12:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#17)

See I have to know, cause if you were to peak under the covers, you find that over 500,000 Jews served in Hitlers military, many Generals and a few field Marshalls. Of course you knew that didnt you, just forgot to bring it up.

Link please. Or I will consider it the babbling of a crazy old man.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-19   12:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#17)

Killed Germans???? My brother killed a few and then they killed him, thanks for asking.

How old was your brother?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-19   12:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Old Friend, Cynicom (#21)

Have you ever heard of (half Jewish) Field Marshall Milch?

www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.h tml

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-19   12:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#23)

You guys crack me up. Is it Jew by culture or race?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-19   12:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#16)

I'm descended directly from Edward Pantagenat and Thomas Cromwell

Wasn't Thomas Cromwell Oliver's great uncle?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-19   12:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#23)

Obama is half white.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-19   12:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Old Friend (#26)

Obama is half white.

Yes he is. And his attitudes are those of a typical mulatto, not a typical black man.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-19   12:17:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Old Friend (#21)

Link please. Or I will consider it the babbling of a crazy old man.

It may surprise you that I get paid to teach those that are lacking in world history.

You and war seem to have sadly neglected you own education. Most unfortunate.

I gave you one name, General Erhard Milch, You look it up and report back what YOU have learned ON YOUR OWN.

If you are really interested in advancing your limited education and knowledge, here is one in depth study that might be of use.

http://just-another-inside-job.blogspot.com/2007/04/150-000-jews-in-hitlers-army.html

Normally I would request an essay in depth but in your case that seems a fruitless desire.

Enjoy...

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-19   12:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#25)

The ironly being that one side of my family chased the other side out of Wales...

war  posted on  2009-02-19   13:18:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Cynicom (#28)

Wer Jude ist, bestimme ich...

war  posted on  2009-02-19   13:21:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Esso (#20)

Not all is what it seems.

war  posted on  2009-02-19   18:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#28)

expect crickets

christine  posted on  2009-02-19   18:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#28)

It may surprise you that I get paid to teach those that are lacking in world history.

Very surprised....but not suprisingly unemployed, I'm sure.

You and war seem to have sadly neglected you own education.

Not all is what it seems.

I gave you one name, General Erhard Milch

I am familiar with Milch. What about him? Mixed blood dad...Christaim Mom - evne though revisionists have claimed that she was of Jewish derivation. IIRA, he was investigated after Nuremberg and found to be of mixed blood and ley by Goering as his right hand man.

war  posted on  2009-02-19   18:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Christine (#32)

Have I exceeeded expectations?

war  posted on  2009-02-19   18:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#33)

I am familiar with Milch. What about him? Mixed blood dad...Christaim Mom - evne though revisionists have claimed that she was of Jewish derivation. IIRA, he was investigated after Nuremberg and found to be of mixed blood and ley by Goering as his right hand man.

Let me correct those typos:

I am familiar with Milch. What about him? The claim was thet he had a mixed blood dad...Christian Mom - even though revisionists, ironically Jewish, have claimed that she was of Jewish derivation. IIRC, he was investigated after Nuremberg and found to be Arayan and kept by Goering as his right hand man.

war  posted on  2009-02-19   18:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#27)

And his attitudes are those of a typical mulatto

Meaning what? He's even MORE uppity? Please elaborate...

Thanks...

war  posted on  2009-02-19   18:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#19)

Good heavens, such language from a gentleman of English culture, shame on you.

I;ve married Italian...

war  posted on  2009-02-19   18:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#33)

I am familiar with Milch. What about him? Mixed blood dad...Christaim Mom - evne though revisionists have claimed that she was of Jewish derivation. IIRA, he was investigated after Nuremberg and found to be of mixed blood and ley by Goering as his right hand man.

Were not...

Anyone can find that many places on the internet. You had not a clue about Milch or you would have never made your original statement.

There were thousands of Jews...by culture not race...that served Hitler to the very end. Jews are so assimilated that there are few real Jews by race, that can be seen by any thinking person that desires to look. Semites were a colored race, not white.

Check any birth certificate of a Jew, it says...WHITE...not colored. You can say culture, can't you???

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-19   18:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: war (#34)

you weren't who i was referring to, war.

christine  posted on  2009-02-19   18:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom (#38)

Anyone can find that many places on the internet. You had not a clue about Milch or you would have never made your original statement.

I've made several statements on this thread.

war  posted on  2009-02-19   20:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Cynicom (#38)

Check any birth certificate of a Jew, it says...WHITE...not colored.

Does that include Yavilah McCoy?

war  posted on  2009-02-19   20:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Christine (#39)

Aha...carry on...

war  posted on  2009-02-19   20:46:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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