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Title: Turtle Finish His Ozarks Palace
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Published: Feb 20, 2009
Author: Turtle
Post Date: 2009-02-20 06:45:45 by Turtle
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Views: 451
Comments: 39

My father was a general contractor, I was raised in the field, and built houses from 12 to 21.

I have a very low opinion of modern building techniques, and have for years been a fan of strawbale houses, which are cheap, easy to build, and solid.

It is even possible to build a good cardboard house, although I would only do it in the Southwest.

I'd put it up, the adobe the inside and outside with lime plaster. Occasionally patch it, and it'd last a hundred years.

Imagine the ease of it. Anyone could put up a cardboard house, and plastering is easy, too.

Of course, it could only be one story. (1 image)

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

www.garbagewarrior.com/

Science flies you to the moon.
Religion flies you into buildings.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2009-02-20   8:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#0)

Of course, it could only be one story.

Why?

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-20   8:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Elliott Jackalope (#1)

Great link, thanks.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-02-20   8:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#2)

Why?

It could be two stories with post-and-beam construction.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-20   8:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Turtle (#0)

I'm interested in straw bale, too. Have you ever built one?

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-20   10:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle (#0)

Sweet.

Straw Bales houses are great, as are tamped earth. Astounding the costs of stick housing with limber and tyvek and insulation made at great expense and transported large distances when most places have great construction material right in the earth.

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tom007  posted on  2009-02-20   10:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)

Have you ever built one?

No, but I have the whole thing in my head.

Also, look up "papercrete" for something interesting.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-20   19:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tom007 (#6)

Regular houses have been obsolete since about 1976.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-20   19:10:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Turtle (#0)

Sorry, Uncle Sam will only allow you to build houses he deems fit.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-20   19:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: farmfriend (#9) (Edited)

Sorry, Uncle Sam will only allow you to build houses he deems fit.

In the Ozarks there are hardly any building codes, and "Uncle Sam" has not been welcome since before the War Between the States.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-20   19:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Turtle (#10)

the Ear Between the States.

Love it when those darn typos get in the way of a good turn of phrase.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-20   19:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: farmfriend (#11)

Love it when those darn typos get in the way of a good turn of phrase.

Turtle needs six cups of coffee a day to maintain his Brain function.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-20   20:57:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Turtle (#12)

Turtle needs six cups of coffee a day to maintain his Brain function.

Start hammering beans then.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-20   21:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: farmfriend (#13)

Turtle bought a grinder since that selfish little jerk Obama wouldn't give me a bailout one.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-20   21:16:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Turtle (#14)

Turtle bought a grinder since that selfish little jerk Obama wouldn't give me a bailout one.

I could have told you he was just in it for the power!


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-20   23:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend (#15)

Turtle bought a grinder since that selfish little jerk Obama wouldn't give me a bailout one.

I could have told you he was just in it for the power!

Turtle's grinder has no power, since it's hand-powered. Not too bad, better than beating the beans with a hammer on the sidewalk.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-21   8:02:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Turtle (#12)

Turtle needs six cups of coffee a day to maintain his Brain function.

Just imagine if you had more than two brain cells--there would be a worldwide shortage of coffee and the rest of us would have to pay a thousand dollars for half a cup!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-21   8:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: James Deffenbach (#17)

Just imagine if you had more than two brain cells--there would be a worldwide shortage of coffee and the rest of us would have to pay a thousand dollars for half a cup!

Turtle's two Brain cells are the size of basketballs and do a gazillion calculations a second, as compared to yours, which are about as powerful as a ladybug in molasses.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-21   8:35:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Turtle (#18)

you're a riot. do you do stand-up comedy for a living?

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-21   8:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#19)

you're a riot. do you do stand-up comedy for a living?

In real life I have had people laugh so hard they had tears in their eyes or bend over laughing unable to catch their breath.

Turtle is, as always, stupendous!

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-21   8:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Turtle (#7) (Edited)

look up "papercrete" for something interesting.

thanks, i will...let me write that down...i have too many windows at the moment including a couple of straw bale ones from yesterday....let me plant them here so i can close them....

www.squidoo.com/straw-bale [How to Build Your Own Straw House + A No-Cost E-Course on Straw Bale House Construction - Free Mini-Course on Building Your Straw Bale House]

www.strawbale.com/straw-bale-e-course

Frequently asked questions www.strawbale.com/strawbale-faqs

i wish the nwo would just go away so i could spend more time on this subject.

================

note to myself : search "living roofs"

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-21   8:51:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Turtle (#20)

In real life I have had people laugh so hard they had tears in their eyes or bend over laughing unable to catch their breath.

i believe it.

Turtle is, as always, stupendous!

i'm a fan....thanks for lightening things up!

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-21   8:54:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Turtle (#7)

"...What Is Papercrete?

Papercrete is made from recycled paper with a small amount of cement and sand added. The ratio is 60/20/20. The paper/concrete/sand mixture is stirred in a large barrel, much like a blender, until all paper is shredded and evenly mixed with the concrete and sand. Papercrete can be mortared, drilled, hammered, nailed, used as plaster and as an infill between poles or studs. Recently, some people made the mixture without cement, and created Fidobe or Paper Adobe. These products are dense building logs used in construction.

While researching, I found a gentleman that had made a mixer out of an old 55 gallon drum, which was mounted on an old car axle. A unique gearing system attached to an old lawn mower blade did the mixing. He would hook this contraption behind his car, take a slow drive around the block, and have perfect papercrete......."

www.doityourself.com/stry/papercrete

hahaha....people like this restore my faith in Americans.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-21   9:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#23)

"...Q. What are photovoltaics and how do they relate to cool metal roofing?

A. Photovoltaics (PV) are products that convert sunlight into electricity. They are commonly referred to as solar cells. PVs are made of semiconductor materials such as silicon. Cells of PV material are put together to form a module, and modules can be grouped together on roofs to form arrays which generate power to the building. There are two primary types of PV systems: Crystalline (mono and poly) and Amorphous. The crystalline systems consist of an array of silicon wafers sandwiched between two layers of glass. These panels can be heavy and must be attached to a roof using metal brackets or bracing. The amorphous silicon PV systems are flexible and light weight. A thin film of amorphous PV can be produced as a laminate to be adhered to the pan of a metal standing seam roof. In that case, the PV system is actually integrated into the building design and is almost unnoticeable on the roof. Metal roofing provides the best platform for the building integrated photovoltaic (BIPV) system. The synergy between the flexible PV and metal roofing products is causing an increasing use of the systems.

Both types of PV technology cost the same in terms of dollars per installed watt of power. More financial incentives are being offered by states for the use of PV technology. The Energy Policy Act of 2005 provides a credit equal to 30% of expenditures for the purchase of qualified PV equipment, up to $2,000.

For more information visit:

www.unisolar.com
www.nrel.gov/ncpv
http://www.solarelectricpower.org ....

Green Building & Cool Metal Roofing Information - McElroy Metal http://www.mcelroymetal.com/content/greenbuilding/

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-21   9:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#23)

You can make bricks out of all kinds of things, as long as it has lime to harden it. You can mix in pulped paper, sand, clay, straw, and it all works just fine,

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-21   10:06:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Turtle (#18)

Turtle's two Brain cells are the size of basketballs

Yeah, but what size basketballs? Ones that pissants could dribble?   >(;^[}

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-21   10:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

Turtle's Brain, with just a sneeze, can wreak havoc on your tiny little genitals

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-21   10:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Turtle (#20)

In real life I have had people laugh so hard they had tears in their eyes or bend over laughing unable to catch their breath.

And that is just during sex!


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-21   10:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Turtle (#25)

You can make bricks out of all kinds of things, as long as it has lime to harden it. You can mix in pulped paper, sand, clay, straw, and it all works just fine,

thanks....i'm fascinated with this.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-21   11:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: farmfriend (#28)

you and turtle should get together and make a comedy video....i'm serious.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-21   11:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Turtle (#27)

Turtle's Brain, with just a sneeze

If brains were made of gun powder, Turtle couldn't blow his nose.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-21   11:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: James Deffenbach (#31)

y'all should get with Puinginite to video-conference that video...i'm sure it could be done.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-21   11:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: farmfriend (#28) (Edited)

In real life I have had people laugh so hard they had tears in their eyes or bend over laughing unable to catch their breath.

And that is just during sex!

Women have never laughed when I'm pokerizing them....but they've talked baby talk!

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-21   12:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: James Deffenbach (#31)

If brains were made of gun powder, Turtle couldn't blow his nose.

If Turtle's brain was gunpowder, and he sneezed, it would blow up the entire Midwest.

Turtle is stupendously emBrained!

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-21   12:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Turtle (#33)

okay, okay....you can be funny and keep it "family" fare at the same time...i know you can.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-21   12:34:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Penguinite, Turtle (#32)

y'all should get with Puinginite to video-conference that video...i'm sure it could be done.

LOL! I am sure it could be but don't know if Neil would want to waste his time with that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-21   15:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Turtle (#34)

If Turtle's brain was gunpowder, and he sneezed, it would blow up the entire Midwest.

The midwestern part of one block in an ant kingdom?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-21   15:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: James Deffenbach (#37)

The midwestern part of one block in an ant kingdom?

The entire Midwest of the United States of America -- which was originally called Turtle Island by the Indians, since they knew a good thing when they saw it.

No place is better than Turtle Island.

Turtle  posted on  2009-02-21   15:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Turtle (#38)

LOL! There you go with your delusions of adequacy again. How long does it usually take before your meds kick in and give you some relief from these wild fantasies? I think they need to get some to you muy pronto.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-02-21   22:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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