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Title: Bomb kills 25 at Shiite funeral in Pakistan
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AP Wire
URL Source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap ... NH0BqgpWA2ZG6VD6wVTmAD96F64G80
Published: Feb 20, 2009
Author: Ishtiaq Mahsud
Post Date: 2009-02-20 08:39:07 by war
Keywords: Pakistan, Talibian, Muslim, nuclear
Views: 1408
Comments: 107
ISLAMABAD (AP) — A bomb tore through a huge funeral procession for a slain Shiite Muslim leader in northwestern Pakistan on Friday, killing at least six people and wounding several more, police said. Rising sectarian violence threatens to further destabilize nuclear-armed Pakistan just as it faces renewed U.S. pressure to crack down on Taliban and al-Qaida militants. Friday's explosion tore through crowds streaming toward a graveyard for the burial of Sher Zeman, a Shiite leader who was gunned down in the city the day before. City police official Miran Shah said at least six of the estimated 1,000 mourners were killed. Others wounded by the explosion were rushed to nearby hospitals, he said. Police said people angered by the attack fired on police officers rushing to the scene. An Associated Press reporter in the city heard the gunfire and said troops had arrived to help restore order. There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attack. However, relations between this Muslim nation's strong Sunni majority and Shiite minority are under growing strain from a series of attacks attributed to sectarian extremists. Much of the violence has been in the northwest, where the Taliban and other violent Sunni groups have gained sway. In the deadliest recent incident, a car bomb killed 29 people and wounded scores near a Shiite mosque in Peshawar in December. On Feb. 5, a suicide bomber killed 24 people at a Shiite mosque in a central city.
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#1. To: scrapper2 (#0)
So what if they gain control o' the nukes, right?
"They" have had control of nukes for a while and nothing has happened. Who do you think Pakistani intel officers are but Sunni and militant sympathizers? Wake up. It's not Pakistan or any other Islamic nation state that has threatened the ME and the world at large with the Samson Option.
Who told you this? Your dog? Taliban do NOT control the nukes.
Boy, you are confused.
A plague on the entire Middle East. May Jews and Muslims kill each other off.
Confused? No, I am the one who sees the light. It's you who are over taken by the propaganda of our MSM, who have admitted that they take info from the feds and write it up as "truth", as "news." I know the "enemy" that has manipulated us into multiple wars, that has attacked our military and killed them, that takes our tax money and uses it to bribe our congress critters and manipulate our foreign policy. I know the "enemy" that has left us without friends and ridiculed on the world's stage as a bully. The "enemy" that has brought our nation to ruin is NOT AQ. Open your eyes and identify the "enemy" correctly so you can get your panties out of twist.
Further underscoring your confusion... The ISI is populated mostly by the western educated which spills over into their lifestyle. Pakistan is the guy bike riding on the high wire holding onto the balance pole instead of the handle bars and who suddenly discovers that he's been pedaling backwards with a flat tire. Of course there are going to be Taliban sympathizers in their government...as there are in China which is hardly a Muslim country. Start there and ponder that... Open your eyes and identify the "enemy" correctly so you can get your panties out of twist. Pay attention, doofette...I know what our insane Israel-o-centric foreign policy has cost us in both money and lives. I also know that we could cut Israel loose tomorrow and it won't make any difference whatsoever to those fanatics. That's a realization that you've yet to get smacked with so it's no coincidence that is where your intelligence quotient goes into deficit. I could care less how much you hate the Jews. I care how much those mountian dwelling fanatics hate us.
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4um Traitor Why don't we put your theory to the test about Israel and cut Israel loose and see what happens? Regarding my "intelligence quotient", what gives a person like you who is of limited intellectual reflection and who is so easily fooled by MSM anti-Muslim propaganda the right to sit in judgment? Regarding your statement about hating the Jews - dead ADL talking points give-away. See you around, ironpanties. Regarding mountain dwelling fanatics, strange how such primitives -as you yourself describe them - could know enough technology and have such aviation skill sets to fly 2 commercial jets into the middle of Manhattan and DC. How lucky for cave dweller fanatics to manage such feats!
ROFLMAO...putting aside the fact that I was born with that right, your assumptive that you've tried to pass off as a premise about my relationship wit the MSM is false. Id suggest that you go back to square one but I'm not sure that you could find a map with your ass designated as the starting point. The West has problems in that region that pre-date the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine. Regarding your statement about hating the Jews - dead ADL talking points give-away. So what are you telling me here...you're not only stupid you're paranoid? Regarding mountain dwelling fanatics... Another assumpitve...they don't "dwell" in caves but from time to time use them as military assets.
It all makes sense now.
4um Traitor I think a a bad HTML tag cut off my response to this posit of yours. IN a nutshell, I have 0 problem with that. I also have 0 problem with forbidding the US from initiating any war based upon the claim to a right of access to the natural resources of another country, e.g., reversing the Carter Doctrine.
ROFLMAO...you don't hate Jews you just see them everywhere. I have my laugh for the day... Thanks... Quick!!! Remind me that you "lack, er, pack heat". [snicker]
Okay Sherlock, find the posts I have made here wherein I express "hatred" for "Jews." Knock yourself out. And until you can prove your false allegations/accusations, I suggest you keep your adl-anti-Jew-talking-points under raps.
Problems with the ME arose after the Allies betrayed their promises in 1915 to the Arab countries that they [including the Palestinians] would get their independence from colonial rule if they would throw in their lot with the Allies in WWI. Instead the Allies gave the Zionists a thug state called Israel, super- imposed on the Palestinians, the significant majority indigenous people in Palestine at the time. And fyi, the Palestinians gave shelter and refuge to the European Jews who escaped from the Naziis during WWII, before the West's ultimate betrayal had become known. Read the poignant October 7, 1947 speech given by Pakistan's Ambassador to the UN, Zafrullah Khan , to gain some insight and historical perspective as to the identity of the First Terrorists in the ME and how the West betrayed the Arabs, Persians, and in particular the Palestinians after WWI/WWII .
What is the goal of any "Jew", IYHO, scrappie? I suggest you keep your adl-anti-Jew-talking-points under raps. And I sugest that you stick a broom up your ass and sweep up on your way out of from wherever you happen to be egressing...my suggestion is much more useful, btw.
The last person from whom I need a history lesson is you. Thanks.
war: What is the goal of any "Jew", IYHO, scrappie? b. scrapper: And until you can prove your false allegations/accusations, I suggest you keep your adl-anti-Jew-talking-points under raps. war: And I sugest that you stick a broom up your ass and sweep up on your way out of from wherever you happen to be egressing...my suggestion is much more useful, btw. a. One more time - please show me all the posts I have made that express "hatred" for the "Jews" to support your false accusation that I am a "Jew-hater." You made the allegation, so now show me proof. And btw, it's my turn to ask you the question so PUT UP OR SHUT UP, iron panties. b. You have been caught in a blatant character assassination lie and your foul-mouthed behavior is your only response, because uyou have no courage or moral fiber to admit when you are wrong and apologize. Just as I suspected, iron panties. Carry on...
Thanks. You opened up the subject with your broad-brush stroke false historical reference to Muslims always being a problem for the West even before Israel was created by the UN. I simply corrected you with regards to the falsehood you were trying to pass off on this forum as historical truth. As for the so-called "history lesson" - I wouldn't waste my time trying to teach a bigoted dullard like yourself about ME history. That's why I thought the October 07, 1947 speech of the very learned and highly esteemed Zafrullah Khan, former Pakistani Ambassador to the UN and later the President of the UN might help you get up to speed so you would not display your ignorance in public again.
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'smatter? You afraid of a little old question that makes you express your opinion about any actual "Jew", scrappette? That is why your "argument" breaks down. Broad strikes indeed, eh? [snicker]
It was an attempt at further underscoring what a pedantic little snot you are. I told you that your knowledge base about me is 0. You don't even realize that you and I are in general agreement on the issue of US/ME policy. Your failures are two fold...one is to recognize that the issue of Islamic radical fundmentalism holding the west to be an enemy is not a late 20th century phenomenem. The other is personal and which we've discussed. Are you, in fact, a Moslem?
Righto. And the Catholic Church has been very tolerant of my desire to hold dual religious membership.
I'm still waiting for your proof that demonstrate I am a "Jew Hater." Crickets....
As for your question about the goals of a Jew... they are the same as the goals of a Muslim and of a Christian - ie. to get by and lead their lives with their loved ones without meddling or manipulation by outside forces. Would you agree? Somehow I doubt it. The image of a poster boy for bigotry and racism is in your mirror not mine.
Coming from an unlearned, poorly read, bigoted, testosterone driven, candy a**ed jock like yourself, I take your remarks as a compliment, a badge of honor, as it were.
Then answer the question: Also, how do you feel about dual citizenhips...?
Chuckles...unlearned and poorly read? Well...not only are you redundant but you repeat yourself!!! Bigoted? I've expressed intolerance to whom exactly? Testosterone driven...I'm a man yes I am... Candy assed jock? Hardly a jock...I train and train hard in several disciplines but I've long been a misplaced guitar tuner...and, btw, my tuckus is extremely buff and attractive.
ROFLMAO...nice tap dance, Ms. Milller... Given your statement, you believe that Jews don't want the US to intervene in Israel in any way?
As long as you give them enough money they could probably give two shits what you do...
Given your statement, you believe that Jews don't want the US to intervene in Israel in any way? I was not aware that the US had ever "intervened" in Israel. And when you asked about the goals of a Jew, I assumed you were speaking about the general personal goals of an individual Jewish person, which imo, are no different than those of a Christian or a Muslim. Now that I have answered your question, give me the proof I asked for that supports your accusation that I have expressed "hatred" for "Jews." On the subject of "tap dancing", it appears that you are the one doing it not me. So put up or shut up. Where's the proof?
war: As long as you give them enough money they could probably give two shits what you do... You really are a crude rude piece of work. You find it so easy to insult Muslims and Catholics - your contempt falls right off the tip of your tongue. But say anything about the Zionists, and you get your nose out of joint. Your actions are self-revealing.
Then answer the question: Also, how do you feel about dual citizenhips...? It's no secret that I believe that dual-citizens should not be allowed to serve in federal government policy level positions or in federal Cabinet positions. Where's the proof that I have expressed "hatred" for "Jews?" Put up or shut up.
Gack! Sorry but my dance card is full.
The Catholic Church has a pedophile issue that it refuses to address. I have a serious issue with Moslems because the "moderates" won't stand up to the fundamentalists much like the US Methodists, Presbyterians, Episcopals etc etc etc won't stand up to the American Taliban. The rest of the western world laughs at how backwards we are in terms of declaring ourselves religiously pure while requiring everyone in pubulic service to wear religion on their sleeves. As for your myopia regarding my opinions about Zionism/Israel, i.e., it's grossly disporporationate influence on American foreign policy, I can't help you there as you seem to be rabidly content to pretend that they don't agree with yours.
Good for you, gumdrop, but it wasn't an invitation.
So a dual Canadian/American in Department of Education would be a no no to you?
The US has never veto'd a resolution unfavorable to Israal in the UNSC? When Gazans see spent ordinance in the rubble of their homes, they see MADE IN - --? Can you fill in that blank? IN 1983, the US put Marines boots on the ground in Lebanon why? IN October of 1973, the US publically announced that it had put its troops on worldwide alert why? The US guaranttes every penny of debt of what nation other than the US?
That is correct. A dual Canadian-American as Head of the Dept of Education or holding a policy level position within that department would be a no-no if I had my way.
Why? What conflict exists?
The conflict is that dual citizens have pointedly decided not to put their loyalties to America first and sever their ties to their birth country. Citizens with split loyalties should not be rewarded for this behavior by being allowed to serve in any policy level or Cabinet level positions even if it is as Head of the Dept of Dogcatching. Obviously, having dual citizenship is advantageous for individuals for reasons of job mobility, career advancement. And the Supreme Court has ruled that US citizens can keep dual citizenship. I'm merely stating that what may be advantageous to an individual's personal goals is not helpful to our nation when such "conflicted" individuals serve in Cabinet/policy level positions.
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#2. To: war (#1)
So what if they gain control o' the nukes, right?
#3. To: scrapper2 (#2)
"They" have had control of nukes for a while and nothing has happened.
#4. To: scrapper2 (#2)
Who do you think Pakistani intel officers are but Sunni and militant sympathizers?
#5. To: war (#0)
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#6. To: war (#4)
Boy, you are confused.
#7. To: scrapper2 (#6)
It's you who are over taken by the propaganda of our MSM
#8. To: war (#7)
Globalist libturd NEOCON (I heart Empire)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#9. To: war (#7)
I also know that we could cut Israel loose tomorrow and it won't make any difference whatsoever to those fanatics. That's a realization that you've yet to get smacked with so it's no coincidence that is where your intelligence quotient goes into deficit. I could care less how much you hate the Jews. I care how much those mountian dwelling fanatics hate us.
#10. To: scrapper2 (#9)
Regarding my "intelligence quotient", what gives a person like you...the right to sit in judgment?
#11. To: scrapper2 (#9)
ADL
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#12. To: scrapper2 (#9)
Why don't we put your theory to the test about Israel and cut Israel loose and see what happens?
#13. To: Rotara, scrapper2 (#11)
It all makes sense now.
#14. To: war (#13)
ROFLMAO...you don't hate Jews you just see them everywhere.
#15. To: war (#10)
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The West has problems in that region that pre-date the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine.
#16. To: scrapper2 (#14)
Okay Sherlock, find the posts I have made here wherein I express "hatred" for "Jews." Knock yourself out.
#17. To: scrapper2 (#15)
#18. To: war (#16)
a. scrapper: Okay Sherlock, find the posts I have made here wherein I express "hatred" for "Jews." Knock yourself out.
#19. To: war (#17)
The last person from whom I need a history lesson is you.
#20. To: scrapper2 (#19)
You opened up the subject with your broad-brush stroke false historical reference to Muslims always being a problem for the West even before Israel was created by the UN.
#21. To: scrapper2 (#18)
One more time - please show me all the posts I have made that express "hatred" for the "Jews" to support your false accusation that I am a "Jew-hater."
#22. To: scrapper2 (#19)
As for the so-called "history lesson"
#23. To: war (#22)
Are you, in fact, a Moslem?
#24. To: war (#21)
'smatter? You afraid of a little old question that makes you express your opinion about any actual "Jew", scrappette? That is why your "argument" breaks down. Broad strikes indeed, eh?
#25. To: war (#24)
#26. To: war (#22)
what a pedantic little snot you are
#27. To: scrapper2 (#24)
I'm still waiting for your proof that demonstrate I am a "Jew Hater."
#28. To: scrapper2 (#26)
Coming from an unlearned, poorly read, bigoted, testosterone driven, candy a**ed jock like yourself,
#29. To: scrapper2 (#25)
As for your question about the goals of a Jew... they are the same as the goals of a Muslim and of a Christian - ie. to get by and lead their lives with their loved ones without meddling or manipulation by outside forces.
#30. To: scrapper2 (#23)
And the Catholic Church has been very tolerant of my desire to hold dual religious membership.
#31. To: war (#29)
ROFLMAO...nice tap dance, Ms. Milller...
#32. To: war (#30)
scrapper: And the Catholic Church has been very tolerant of my desire to hold dual religious membership.
#33. To: war (#27)
I'm still waiting for your proof that demonstrate I am a "Jew Hater."
#34. To: war (#28)
(Edited)
and, btw, my tuckus is extremely buff and attractive.
#35. To: scrapper2 (#32)
But say anything about the Zionists, and you get your nose out of joint.
#36. To: scrapper2 (#34)
Sorry but my dance card is full.
#37. To: scrapper2 (#33)
It's no secret that I believe that dual-citizens should not be allowed to serve in federal government policy level positions or in federal Cabinet positions.
#38. To: scrapper2 (#31)
I was not aware that the US had ever "intervened" in Israel.
#39. To: war (#37)
So a dual Canadian/American in Department of Education would be a no no to you?
#40. To: scrapper2 (#39)
A dual Canadian-American as Head of the Dept of Education or holding a policy level position within that department would be a no-no if I had my way.
#41. To: war (#40)
Why? What conflict exists?
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