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Title: Bomb kills 25 at Shiite funeral in Pakistan
Source: AP Wire
URL Source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap ... NH0BqgpWA2ZG6VD6wVTmAD96F64G80
Published: Feb 20, 2009
Author: Ishtiaq Mahsud
Post Date: 2009-02-20 08:39:07 by war
Keywords: Pakistan, Talibian, Muslim, nuclear
Views: 1332
Comments: 107

ISLAMABAD (AP) — A bomb tore through a huge funeral procession for a slain Shiite Muslim leader in northwestern Pakistan on Friday, killing at least six people and wounding several more, police said.

Rising sectarian violence threatens to further destabilize nuclear-armed Pakistan just as it faces renewed U.S. pressure to crack down on Taliban and al-Qaida militants.

Friday's explosion tore through crowds streaming toward a graveyard for the burial of Sher Zeman, a Shiite leader who was gunned down in the city the day before.

City police official Miran Shah said at least six of the estimated 1,000 mourners were killed. Others wounded by the explosion were rushed to nearby hospitals, he said.

Police said people angered by the attack fired on police officers rushing to the scene. An Associated Press reporter in the city heard the gunfire and said troops had arrived to help restore order.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attack.

However, relations between this Muslim nation's strong Sunni majority and Shiite minority are under growing strain from a series of attacks attributed to sectarian extremists.

Much of the violence has been in the northwest, where the Taliban and other violent Sunni groups have gained sway.

In the deadliest recent incident, a car bomb killed 29 people and wounded scores near a Shiite mosque in Peshawar in December. On Feb. 5, a suicide bomber killed 24 people at a Shiite mosque in a central city.

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#10. To: scrapper2 (#9)

Regarding my "intelligence quotient", what gives a person like you...the right to sit in judgment?

ROFLMAO...putting aside the fact that I was born with that right, your assumptive that you've tried to pass off as a premise about my relationship wit the MSM is false. Id suggest that you go back to square one but I'm not sure that you could find a map with your ass designated as the starting point.

The West has problems in that region that pre-date the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine.

Regarding your statement about hating the Jews - dead ADL talking points give-away.

So what are you telling me here...you're not only stupid you're paranoid?

Regarding mountain dwelling fanatics...

Another assumpitve...they don't "dwell" in caves but from time to time use them as military assets.

war  posted on  2009-02-22   9:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: scrapper2 (#9)

ADL

It all makes sense now.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-22   9:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: scrapper2 (#9)

Why don't we put your theory to the test about Israel and cut Israel loose and see what happens?

I think a a bad HTML tag cut off my response to this posit of yours.

IN a nutshell, I have 0 problem with that. I also have 0 problem with forbidding the US from initiating any war based upon the claim to a right of access to the natural resources of another country, e.g., reversing the Carter Doctrine.

war  posted on  2009-02-22   9:28:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rotara, scrapper2 (#11)

It all makes sense now.

ROFLMAO...you don't hate Jews you just see them everywhere.

I have my laugh for the day...

Thanks...

Quick!!! Remind me that you "lack, er, pack heat".

[snicker]

war  posted on  2009-02-22   9:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#13)

ROFLMAO...you don't hate Jews you just see them everywhere.

Okay Sherlock, find the posts I have made here wherein I express "hatred" for "Jews." Knock yourself out.

And until you can prove your false allegations/accusations, I suggest you keep your adl-anti-Jew-talking-points under raps.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-22   13:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war (#10) (Edited)

The West has problems in that region that pre-date the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine.

Problems with the ME arose after the Allies betrayed their promises in 1915 to the Arab countries that they [including the Palestinians] would get their independence from colonial rule if they would throw in their lot with the Allies in WWI. Instead the Allies gave the Zionists a thug state called Israel, super- imposed on the Palestinians, the significant majority indigenous people in Palestine at the time. And fyi, the Palestinians gave shelter and refuge to the European Jews who escaped from the Naziis during WWII, before the West's ultimate betrayal had become known.

Read the poignant October 7, 1947 speech given by Pakistan's Ambassador to the UN, Zafrullah Khan , to gain some insight and historical perspective as to the identity of the First Terrorists in the ME and how the West betrayed the Arabs, Persians, and in particular the Palestinians after WWI/WWII .

aleemkhan.files.wordpress...afarullah-khan-speech.pdf

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-22   14:14:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: scrapper2 (#14)

Okay Sherlock, find the posts I have made here wherein I express "hatred" for "Jews." Knock yourself out.

What is the goal of any "Jew", IYHO, scrappie?

I suggest you keep your adl-anti-Jew-talking-points under raps.

And I sugest that you stick a broom up your ass and sweep up on your way out of from wherever you happen to be egressing...my suggestion is much more useful, btw.

war  posted on  2009-02-22   18:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: scrapper2 (#15)

The last person from whom I need a history lesson is you.

Thanks.

war  posted on  2009-02-22   18:50:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war (#16)

a. scrapper: Okay Sherlock, find the posts I have made here wherein I express "hatred" for "Jews." Knock yourself out.

war: What is the goal of any "Jew", IYHO, scrappie?

b. scrapper: And until you can prove your false allegations/accusations, I suggest you keep your adl-anti-Jew-talking-points under raps.

war: And I sugest that you stick a broom up your ass and sweep up on your way out of from wherever you happen to be egressing...my suggestion is much more useful, btw.

a. One more time - please show me all the posts I have made that express "hatred" for the "Jews" to support your false accusation that I am a "Jew-hater."

You made the allegation, so now show me proof.

And btw, it's my turn to ask you the question so PUT UP OR SHUT UP, iron panties.

b. You have been caught in a blatant character assassination lie and your foul-mouthed behavior is your only response, because uyou have no courage or moral fiber to admit when you are wrong and apologize. Just as I suspected, iron panties. Carry on...

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-22   22:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#17)

The last person from whom I need a history lesson is you.

Thanks.

You opened up the subject with your broad-brush stroke false historical reference to Muslims always being a problem for the West even before Israel was created by the UN.

I simply corrected you with regards to the falsehood you were trying to pass off on this forum as historical truth.

As for the so-called "history lesson" - I wouldn't waste my time trying to teach a bigoted dullard like yourself about ME history. That's why I thought the October 07, 1947 speech of the very learned and highly esteemed Zafrullah Khan, former Pakistani Ambassador to the UN and later the President of the UN might help you get up to speed so you would not display your ignorance in public again.

aleemkhan.files.wordpress...afarullah-khan-speech.pdf

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-22   22:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: scrapper2 (#19)

You opened up the subject with your broad-brush stroke false historical reference to Muslims always being a problem for the West even before Israel was created by the UN.

That posted was deleted by the moderator.

war  posted on  2009-02-23   1:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: scrapper2 (#18)

One more time - please show me all the posts I have made that express "hatred" for the "Jews" to support your false accusation that I am a "Jew-hater."

'smatter? You afraid of a little old question that makes you express your opinion about any actual "Jew", scrappette? That is why your "argument" breaks down. Broad strikes indeed, eh?

[snicker]

war  posted on  2009-02-23   1:11:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: scrapper2 (#19)

As for the so-called "history lesson"

It was an attempt at further underscoring what a pedantic little snot you are.

I told you that your knowledge base about me is 0. You don't even realize that you and I are in general agreement on the issue of US/ME policy. Your failures are two fold...one is to recognize that the issue of Islamic radical fundmentalism holding the west to be an enemy is not a late 20th century phenomenem. The other is personal and which we've discussed.

Are you, in fact, a Moslem?

war  posted on  2009-02-23   1:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war (#22)

Are you, in fact, a Moslem?

Righto. And the Catholic Church has been very tolerant of my desire to hold dual religious membership.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   1:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war (#21)

'smatter? You afraid of a little old question that makes you express your opinion about any actual "Jew", scrappette? That is why your "argument" breaks down. Broad strikes indeed, eh?

I'm still waiting for your proof that demonstrate I am a "Jew Hater."

Crickets....

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   1:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#24)

As for your question about the goals of a Jew... they are the same as the goals of a Muslim and of a Christian - ie. to get by and lead their lives with their loved ones without meddling or manipulation by outside forces.

Would you agree?

Somehow I doubt it.

The image of a poster boy for bigotry and racism is in your mirror not mine.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   2:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war (#22)

what a pedantic little snot you are

Coming from an unlearned, poorly read, bigoted, testosterone driven, candy a**ed jock like yourself, I take your remarks as a compliment, a badge of honor, as it were.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   2:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: scrapper2 (#24)

I'm still waiting for your proof that demonstrate I am a "Jew Hater."

Then answer the question:

Also, how do you feel about dual citizenhips...?

war  posted on  2009-02-23   8:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: scrapper2 (#26)

Coming from an unlearned, poorly read, bigoted, testosterone driven, candy a**ed jock like yourself,

Chuckles...unlearned and poorly read?

Well...not only are you redundant but you repeat yourself!!!

Bigoted? I've expressed intolerance to whom exactly?

Testosterone driven...I'm a man yes I am...

Candy assed jock?

Hardly a jock...I train and train hard in several disciplines but I've long been a misplaced guitar tuner...and, btw, my tuckus is extremely buff and attractive.

war  posted on  2009-02-23   8:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: scrapper2 (#25)

As for your question about the goals of a Jew... they are the same as the goals of a Muslim and of a Christian - ie. to get by and lead their lives with their loved ones without meddling or manipulation by outside forces.

ROFLMAO...nice tap dance, Ms. Milller...

Given your statement, you believe that Jews don't want the US to intervene in Israel in any way?

war  posted on  2009-02-23   8:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: scrapper2 (#23)

And the Catholic Church has been very tolerant of my desire to hold dual religious membership.

As long as you give them enough money they could probably give two shits what you do...

war  posted on  2009-02-23   8:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#29)

ROFLMAO...nice tap dance, Ms. Milller...

Given your statement, you believe that Jews don't want the US to intervene in Israel in any way?

I was not aware that the US had ever "intervened" in Israel.

And when you asked about the goals of a Jew, I assumed you were speaking about the general personal goals of an individual Jewish person, which imo, are no different than those of a Christian or a Muslim.

Now that I have answered your question, give me the proof I asked for that supports your accusation that I have expressed "hatred" for "Jews."

On the subject of "tap dancing", it appears that you are the one doing it not me.

So put up or shut up. Where's the proof?

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   8:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: war (#30)

scrapper: And the Catholic Church has been very tolerant of my desire to hold dual religious membership.

war: As long as you give them enough money they could probably give two shits what you do...

You really are a crude rude piece of work.

You find it so easy to insult Muslims and Catholics - your contempt falls right off the tip of your tongue.

But say anything about the Zionists, and you get your nose out of joint.

Your actions are self-revealing.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   8:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#27)

I'm still waiting for your proof that demonstrate I am a "Jew Hater."

Then answer the question:

Also, how do you feel about dual citizenhips...?

It's no secret that I believe that dual-citizens should not be allowed to serve in federal government policy level positions or in federal Cabinet positions.

Where's the proof that I have expressed "hatred" for "Jews?"

Put up or shut up.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   8:57:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: war (#28) (Edited)

and, btw, my tuckus is extremely buff and attractive.

Gack!

Sorry but my dance card is full.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   9:01:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: scrapper2 (#32)

But say anything about the Zionists, and you get your nose out of joint.

The Catholic Church has a pedophile issue that it refuses to address.

I have a serious issue with Moslems because the "moderates" won't stand up to the fundamentalists much like the US Methodists, Presbyterians, Episcopals etc etc etc won't stand up to the American Taliban. The rest of the western world laughs at how backwards we are in terms of declaring ourselves religiously pure while requiring everyone in pubulic service to wear religion on their sleeves.

As for your myopia regarding my opinions about Zionism/Israel, i.e., it's grossly disporporationate influence on American foreign policy, I can't help you there as you seem to be rabidly content to pretend that they don't agree with yours.

war  posted on  2009-02-23   9:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: scrapper2 (#34)

Sorry but my dance card is full.

Good for you, gumdrop, but it wasn't an invitation.

war  posted on  2009-02-23   9:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: scrapper2 (#33)

It's no secret that I believe that dual-citizens should not be allowed to serve in federal government policy level positions or in federal Cabinet positions.

So a dual Canadian/American in Department of Education would be a no no to you?

war  posted on  2009-02-23   9:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: scrapper2 (#31)

I was not aware that the US had ever "intervened" in Israel.

The US has never veto'd a resolution unfavorable to Israal in the UNSC?

When Gazans see spent ordinance in the rubble of their homes, they see MADE IN - --? Can you fill in that blank?

IN 1983, the US put Marines boots on the ground in Lebanon why?

IN October of 1973, the US publically announced that it had put its troops on worldwide alert why?

The US guaranttes every penny of debt of what nation other than the US?

war  posted on  2009-02-23   9:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: war (#37)

So a dual Canadian/American in Department of Education would be a no no to you?

That is correct. A dual Canadian-American as Head of the Dept of Education or holding a policy level position within that department would be a no-no if I had my way.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   10:17:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: scrapper2 (#39)

A dual Canadian-American as Head of the Dept of Education or holding a policy level position within that department would be a no-no if I had my way.

Why? What conflict exists?

war  posted on  2009-02-23   10:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: war (#40)

Why? What conflict exists?

The conflict is that dual citizens have pointedly decided not to put their loyalties to America first and sever their ties to their birth country. Citizens with split loyalties should not be rewarded for this behavior by being allowed to serve in any policy level or Cabinet level positions even if it is as Head of the Dept of Dogcatching.

Obviously, having dual citizenship is advantageous for individuals for reasons of job mobility, career advancement. And the Supreme Court has ruled that US citizens can keep dual citizenship.

I'm merely stating that what may be advantageous to an individual's personal goals is not helpful to our nation when such "conflicted" individuals serve in Cabinet/policy level positions.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   11:01:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: scrapper2 (#41)

The conflict is that dual citizens have pointedly decided not to put their loyalties to America first and sever their ties to their birth country.

How would that negatively affect the US using anyone of dual Canada?

war  posted on  2009-02-23   11:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: scrapper2 (#41)

Also, would intelliegnce gathering be included in your proscription or just the analyst on up?

war  posted on  2009-02-23   11:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: war (#35)

The Catholic Church has a pedophile issue that it refuses to address.

Wrong. Pope John XXIII in 1961 banned gays in the priesthood. US seminaries ignored that ban for decades and now it is estimated that the American Catholic Church has anywhere from 25% - 50% gay priests.

The pedophile ( or more correctly described as pedarest)abuse cases that occurred was by and large an American Catholic Church problem because over the past 30 years it had developed a culture of homosexuality within its seminary midst - the Purple Palace as it is commonly known. It is no surprise considering that US society - unlike Europe - has experienced the ascension of very powerful gay lobby groups here along with their MSM cheerleaders and our Hollywood inspired culture of depravity and anything goes along with the ACLU suing any organization that would dare to say no to employing a gay person in a position of trust with access to children and teens.

Btw, the statistical number of gay priest pedarest abusers are no different than what occurs in the Jewish faith or Protestant faith. But the numbers of abused were obviously much greater in the American Catholic Church's instance because of the nature of male on male sexual promiscuity effecting greater numbers of sex objects.

The Vatican and the new Pope has been actively trying since 2005 to implement policies to prohibit gays from becoming priests, albeit a somewhat watered down policy version of Pope XXIII's). However, lobby groups in the USA have been vocal in their criticism of such policies. The American Catholic Church has been resistant to the Vatican's policy positions, because of the great numbers of gay priests it has on board already.

Personally, I feel that the Catholic Church was targeted by the Christophobes, who wanted to strike at the heart of organized Christianity - what better way than to infiltrate the oldest and largest Christian church - the Catholic Church. The American Catholic Church provided the gateway.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28677174/

"Less gay behavior in seminaries, Vatican says" 01/15/09

www.boston.com/news/world...ts_said_to_prohibit_gays/

"Vatican policy on priests said to prohibit gays: Italian newspaper says pope has approved document" 11/12/05

www.catholicculture.org/n...es/index.cfm?recnum=58524

"Vatican reaffirms ban on homosexual seminarians" 05/20/08

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   11:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: war (#42)

How would that negatively affect the US using anyone of dual Canada?

Re-read my explanation. We should not reward dual citizens for their deliberate choice in not putting their loyalties to America prominently first.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   11:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: war (#38)

The US has never veto'd a resolution unfavorable to Israal in the UNSC?

When Gazans see spent ordinance in the rubble of their homes, they see MADE IN - --? Can you fill in that blank?

IN 1983, the US put Marines boots on the ground in Lebanon why?

IN October of 1973, the US publically announced that it had put its troops on worldwide alert why?

The US guaranttes every penny of debt of what nation other than the US?

By "intervened" I thought you meant the US meddling and manipulating Israeli government policies per what the Israel Lobby does stateside.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   11:30:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: war (#43)

Also, would intelliegnce gathering be included in your proscription or just the analyst on up?

You raise a good point. Intel gathering positions should not have dual citizens in place.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-23   11:31:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: scrapper2 (#44)

Pope John XXIII in 1961 banned gays in the priesthood.

Pedophilia and homosexuality are entirely different issues.

The US Cathloic Church for years refused to defrock and expose its pedophiles and merely chose to play a shell game when them whenever complainats arose.

war  posted on  2009-02-23   11:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: scrapper2 (#46)

By "intervened" I thought you meant the US meddling and manipulating Israeli government policies per what the Israel Lobby does stateside.

Israel is defacto a US protectorate. We cannot help but intervene...in fact, we do everything up to and including slaying the fatted calf for them even at the cost of our own starvation.

Where you and I get off track is in your belief that should the US cut Israel loose, we're free of Jihad. It doesn't work that way.

war  posted on  2009-02-23   11:42:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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