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Title: Obama to Propose Massive Greenhouse Gas Tax ($300 Billion per year!)
Source: NYTimes, El Pee, FReak Repugnant
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=256667
Published: Feb 21, 2009
Author: kristinn
Post Date: 2009-02-22 12:51:29 by Rotara
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Views: 347
Comments: 17

Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:36:16 PM by kristinn

Barack Hussein Obama will propose a massive business tax on greenhouse gases in his FY 2010 federal budget to be presented this week.

The massive tax increase and power grab was buried at the end on article on Obama's forthcoming budget proposal in The New York Times:

On energy policy, Mr. Obama’s budget will show new revenues by 2012 from his proposal to require companies to buy permits from the government for greenhouse gas emissions above a certain cap. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the permits would raise up to $300 billion a year by 2020.

Since companies would pass their costs on to customers, Mr. Obama would have the government use most of the revenues for relief to families to offset higher utility bills and related expenses. The remaining revenues would cover his proposals for $15 billion a year in spending and tax incentives to develop alternative energy.

The proposal is in keeping with a policy announcement candidate Obama made in 2007, as reported then by The Times:

"No business will be allowed to emit any greenhouse gases for free," Mr. Obama said in Portsmouth, N.H. "Businesses don’t own the sky, the public does, and if we want them to stop polluting it, we have to put a price on all pollution."

Obama famously said in 2008 he would make American citizens' electricity rates skyrocket under his plan:

"What I've said is that we would put a cap-and-trade system in place that is more -- that is as aggressive if not more aggressive than anybody else's out there, so if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can, it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

"When I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know, under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.

Regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad, because I'm capping greenhouse gases, coal-powered plants, you know, natural gas, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money, they will pass that money on to consumers. If you can't persuade the American people that, yes, there's going to be some increase in electricity rates on the front end, but that over the long term because of combinations of more efficient energy usage and changing lightbulbs and more efficient appliances, but also technology improving how we can produce clean energy, that the economy will benefit. If we can't make that argument persuasively enough, you -- you can -- you can be Lyndon Johnson, you can be the master of Washington, you're not gonna get that done."

Obama, of course, has no intention of persuading the American people, he's going to ram his Marxist agenda up their tailpipes.


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#1. To: Rotara (#0)

the most hare-brained scheme EVER bump

Hoping that all the buckwheat-bots are enjoying this destruction of our country.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-02-22   12:55:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lodwick (#1)

Hoping that all the buckwheat-bots are enjoying this destruction of our country.

I wonder how much heat they generate when burnt ?

An Ice Age cometh

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-22   12:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lodwick (#1)

It was already destroyed before he got there.

Also, McCain was not much better in terms of these kinds of issues.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-02-22   13:03:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Sam Houston (#3)

Also, McCain was not much better in terms of these kinds of issues.

mcKein worked for exactly the same people.

The CFR-Trilat-Bilderberg Society is laughing at us.

4um Traitor
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-22   13:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Sam Houston, Rotara, all (#3)

No matter that the global-warming hysteria has been completely de-bunked...there must always be some 'crisis' that only fedgov is capable of solving.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-02-22   13:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lodwick (#1)

Hoping that all the buckwheat-bots are enjoying this destruction of our country.

I suppose you believe mcinsane would be better. All things would be peachy keen under a mcinsane mafia family,right?

We are really getting a take on what things are going to be like when we vote for the lesser of two evils. The majority of the destruction of Amerika came about under the asshole bush(s).

LACUMO  posted on  2009-02-22   13:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Rotara, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-22   13:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: LACUMO (#6)

I didn't participate in the selection of sock-puppet 44.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-02-22   13:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: farmfriend (#7)

You are so right. Obanger is just a continuation of bush and mcinsane would be the same. Some like lodwick still believe in the lesser of two evils. He supported bush in 2000 and look what we got with bush. They all are controlled by the same globalist pigs like david rockefeller. Some still don't get it. Loddie means well, but still believes there is a difference between the republicrats and demonwits. How sad!!!!!

LACUMO  posted on  2009-02-22   13:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: bush_is_a_moonie, ALL (#0) (Edited)

Obama famously said in 2008 he would make American citizens' electricity rates skyrocket under his plan.

bush is a moonie famously said on another thread: You[r] analogy is flawed (spurious similarity). Tobacco is not a necessity of daily life. Those who smoke (and I did, 3 packs a day from about 1969 to 1977) have more health issues/problems and I don't want to pay higher insurance and/or medical costs (a tax) because they choose to smoke.

You intimated O'boingo couldn't or wouldn't raise taxes on necessities. Do you consider electricity a luxury in the 21st century? Does electricity make people sick too?

$300 billion works out to $1,200 per citizen per year.

Maybe you can try explaining to me again how taxes like this are a good thing.

Good luck with that.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-02-22   14:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: lodwick (#8)

I didn't participate in the selection of sock-puppet 44.

You could have fooled me. You were kinda hoping the other sock-puppet (mcinsane) would have won. Same lesser of two evils like back in 2000, eh?

LACUMO  posted on  2009-02-22   14:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: LACUMO (#11)

Like many here I voted bush in 00, and watched the disaster unfold...

When I finally realized that you or me or my dog could be selected potus, and nothing would change for the better, I stopped wasting my time and gas to participate.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-02-22   14:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: LACUMO, ALL (#6) (Edited)

The majority of the destruction of Amerika came about under the asshole bush(s).

Yes he drove many of the final nails into the coffin. Your statement, however, is not accurate. Most of the damage came far earlier. He just iced the cake and Omessiah is about to put on the final touches. I don't have time to give you a complete history lesson. But you need one.

Edit: Speaking of the lesser of 2 evils. ChimpII is going to make ChimpI look like a schoolboy.

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ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-02-22   14:53:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: LACUMO, lodwick (#9)

Some still don't get it. Loddie means well, but still believes there is a difference between the republicrats and demonwits. How sad!!!!!

I've never gotten that impression from him.


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss — The Who

farmfriend  posted on  2009-02-22   15:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Rotara, *libertarians* (#0)

the american government is a disease masquerading as its own cure

freepatriot32  posted on  2009-02-22   15:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend (#14)

I've never gotten that impression from him.

You've known me long enough to know that I know the score.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2009-02-22   15:52:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Esso (#10)

You intimated O'boingo couldn't or wouldn't raise taxes on necessities.

Show me where I said or "intimated" the above.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2009-02-22   18:47:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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