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Title: The American Economy is Not Coming Back
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.beaconoftruth.com/bailout.htm
Published: Feb 23, 2009
Author: Dave Lindorff
Post Date: 2009-02-23 10:11:55 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 13510
Comments: 72

President Barack Obama and his economic team are being careful to couch all their talk about economic stimulus programs and bank bailout programs in warnings that the economic downturn is serious and that it will take considerable time to bounce back.

I’m reminded of an experience I had with Chinese medicine when I was living in Shanghai back in 1992. I had come down with a nasty case of the flu while teaching journalism at Fudan University on a Fulbright Scholar program. A Chinese colleague suggested I go to the university clinic. When I told him there wasn’t much point since doctors couldn’t do much for the flu besides recommend fluids and bed rest, he said, “That’s Western doctors. You could go to the Chinese medicine doctors at the clinic. They can help you.” I figured, what the hell, and we went. The doctor inquired into the lurid details of my illness—how my bowel movements looked, the color of the mucus in my nose, etc. He didn’t really examine me physically. Then he prescribed an incredible number of pills and teas and sent me home with a huge bag of stuff, and instructions on the regimen for taking them through the course of each day. I followed the directions dutifully, and my colleague came by each day to check on my progress. By the fifth day, when I was still running a fever and feeling terrible, I told him I didn’t think the Chinese medicine was working. He replied confidently, “Chinese medicine takes a long time to work.”

I laughed at this. “Sure,” I said. “But the flu only lasts a week or so, and now, when I get better, you’ll say it was the Chinese medicine, right?”

He smiled and agreed. “Yes. You are right.”

Obviously the Obama administration recognizes that it needs to keep the finger of blame for the current economic collapse squarely pointed at the Bush administration, which is certainly fair in large part (though the Clinton deregulation of the banking industry played a major part in the financial crisis and its enthusiastic promotion of globalization began the massive shift of jobs overseas that has left the nation’s productive capacity hollowed out). But it also seems to recognize that it cannot tell the bitter truth, which is that our national economy will never “bounce back” to where it was in 2007.

America, and individual Americans, have been living profligately for years in an unreal economy, propped up by easy credit which inflated the value of real estate to incredible levels, and which led people to spend way beyond their means. Ordinary middle-class working people have been encouraged to buy obscenely oversized homes at 5% down, or even no down payment. They have been lured into buying cars the size of trucks, one for each driving-aged member of the family (in our town, so many high school kids drive to school that the school ran out of parking spaces and the yellow school buses, largely empty on their runs, are referred to by the students as the “shame train,” an embarrassment to be seen riding). They’ve installed individual back-yard swimming pools, unwilling to share the water with their neighbors in community pools. Boring faux ethnic restaurant franchises of all kinds have befouled the landscape, filling up with families too stressed out to cook, and willing to endure over-salted, over-priced and tasteless cuisine and tacky plastic décor night after night.

Now this is all crashing down. Property values are in free-fall. Car sales have fallen off a cliff. Joblessness is soaring (At present, it’s approaching an official rate of 8%, but if the methodology used in 1980, before the Reagan administration changed it to hide the depth of that era’s deep recession, were applied, it would be 17% today, or one in seven workers).

Eventually, the economic slide will hit bottom and begin its slow climb back, as all recessions do, but there will be no return to the days of $500,000 McMansion developments, three-car garages and a new car every two or three years for both parents plus a car for each highschooler. Not only will banks no longer be able to offer such credit to clients. People, having been burned, will not be willing to borrow so much. Company health care benefits, pension programs or 401(k) matching programs that were slashed during this downturn will not be restored when the economy picks up again.

Over the last 20 years, America has degenerated into a nation of consumers, with 72 percent of Gross Domestic Product (sic) now being accounted for by consumer spending—most of it going for things that are produced overseas and shipped here.

That is not an economic model that is sustainable, and it is a model that has just suffered what is certainly a mortal blow.

What we are now seeing is the beginning of an inevitable downward adjustment in American living standards to conform with our actual place in the world. As a nation of consumers, and not producers, with little to offer to the rest of the world except raw materials, food crops, military hardware and bad films (none of which industries employ many people), we are headed to a recovery that will not feel like a recovery at all. Eventually, productive capacity will be restored, as lowered US wages make it again profitable for some things to be made here at home again, but like people in the 1930s looking back at the Roaring 20s of yore, we are going to look back at the last two decades as some kind of dream.

It would be better if the new administration would be honest about this, because with honesty, we could have a recovery program that would actually address the real critical issues facing the country—the decline of our educational system, the irrationality of official promotion of home ownership that has led to the proliferation not just of suburbs but of exurbs, the over-reliance on the automobile for transportation, the unprecedented waste of resources, the pillaging of the environment, not to mention the decimation of the retirement system and the creation of a vast medical-industrial complex that is sucking the life-blood out of families and businesses alike.

With honesty, we could also confront the other big obstacle to national recovery—the nation’s obsession with militarism and foreign wars. The honest truth is that the US is technically bankrupt and in a state of chronic decline, and yet the nation persists in spending a trillion dollars a year on war and preparations for war, as though America were in mortal danger from foreign enemies.

The truth is that we are not threatened by Communism, by drug lords, or by Muslim Jihadists in any serious way. Rather, we have become our own worst enemy.

The administration could start by telling us all this straight up, but the problem is, most of us probably don’t want to hear it, which explains why we’re not hearing it. It also explains why we’re about to blow another trillion or so dollars on propping up failing banks, funding pointless highway and bridge construction, and blowing up illiterate peasants in remote places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

CLIFYLQ GIVES THE ILLUMINATI THEIR ACADEMY AWARDS FOR THE SUCCESSFUL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA

Itistoolate  posted on  2009-02-23   10:42:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Itistoolate (#1)

We're in a very, very difficult transition period. God's ways are not our ways, and He has another plan for us, and the building up of the other nations at our present expense has a two-fold reason: the Illuminati's, to destroy us; God's, to equip the nations for Christian America's "new" calling:

www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Rev&c=5&v=10&t=KJV

http://www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Isa&c=61&v=6&t=KJV [btw, the Jews think this applies to them.]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-23   13:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

The American Economy is Not Coming Back

The New AmeriKan Economy will be even less it's own than it was the last couple decades.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-23   13:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rotara (#3)

...or, it could be better....

www.blueletterbible.org/s...cfm?b=Psa&c=33&v=12&t=KJV

www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Zec&c=9&v=12&t=KJV / www.blueletterbible.org/s....cfm?b=Zec&c=9&v=12&t=KJV

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-23   13:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)

Nothing gets better for us now until Jesus returns.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-23   13:34:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine, Rotara (#0)

$DJI $7,190.61 -175.06

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-23   13:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TwentyTwelve (#6)

Insight: The danger of over-regulating derivatives

By Michael Gooch

Published: February 23 2009 17:42 | Last updated: February 23 2009 17:42

While still responding to the bushfires breaking out on the financial landscape, legislators are moving to fix another urgent problem – the regulatory system that failed to protect the global economy from excessive risk-taking. When the heads of the G20 countries meet in London in April, systemic risk regulation will top the agenda.

But while few would argue against the need for a new global regulatory framework, there is the fear that lawmakers might end up stifling economic recovery by restricting, and even barring, activity in important areas of the financial system.

In the US, politicians are already proposing sweeping changes in the credit derivatives (CDS) market. Many of these we support, as I testified earlier this month to the Agricultural Committee of the House of Representatives, which has jurisdiction over the Commodities and Futures Trading Commission (CFTC). The industry should welcome its initiatives for greater transparency, appropriate central counter-party clearing and effective regulatory oversight.

At the same time, great care needs to be taken in the implementation. Collectively we must ensure that new safeguards produce economic benefits – not just for self-interested market intermediaries such as ourselves but for everyone who has a stake in the restored functioning and future wellbeing of global financial markets.

Some examples. On regulatory change, a damaging turf war between US federal regulators for jurisdiction over credit derivatives is looming that will create further uncertainty when swift action is required. On central counterparty clearing, some easy mistakes lie in wait. Most obviously, it would be wrong to presuppose the entire CDS market operates only in the US and that a single vertical clearing and execution venue can be designated for the entire global market. Around 60 per cent of the inter-bank volume in credit derivatives is transacted outside the US. To successfully achieve OTC clearing, large inter-bank dealer and global co-operation is required.

Of most concern are moves to restrict trading in CDS. The original draft of the Derivatives Markets Transparency and Accountability Act proposed limiting participation in the CDS market to entities with a direct interest in the credit being protected.

The effect of this action would have been to inhibit the liquidity of the credit markets, including the market for debt instruments such as corporate fixed income and bank loans. Just as third-party liquidity providers and risk-takers are willing to buy and sell futures and options in agricultural products, providing much-needed liquidity for businesses in agriculture to hedge and offset risk, so do such risk-takers enhance liquidity in credit markets. The Committee has dropped an outright ban in favour of a circuit breaker. But this issue may not be dead. Three other committees can claim jurisdiction on parts of the bill, leaving plenty of scope for damaging revisions, while the Senate Agriculture Committee has its own legislative agenda.

Danger lurks in the latest draft which proposes to give the CFTC authority to suspend trading in CDS if it is “in the public interest” and “for the protection of investors”. This authority would apply to cases where the SEC has suspended short selling of equities and only restricts naked swaps. But regulators must ensure that this restriction only applies to naked buying. In our view, a ban on naked selling could have disastrous consequences and compound a downturn. It would be equivalent to barring risk-takers from buying stocks in a downturn unless they were already holders.

The global market for credit derivatives is not murky or unregulated, as some argue. It is highly liquid and, potentially, quite transparent. It will play an important role in the unfreezing of the credit markets and global economic recovery. That critical role could be jeopardised if we do not sort out the half-truths and misperceptions surrounding CDS and their market structure.

It is only then that the discussion of improving the CDS market through appropriate central clearing and electronic trading can be put in proper context.

The writer is chairman and chief executive of GFI Group

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1a433fda-01cf-11de-8199-000077b07658.html

Bass turds


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-23   13:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TwentyTwelve (#6)

$DJI $7,190.61 -175.06

Hang in there !

It's coming back !!

This is a buying opportunity !!!

Haaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha !!!!!


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-23   13:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Rotara, Christine (#8) (Edited)

$DJI $7,190.61 -175.06

Hang in there !

It's coming back !!

This is a buying opportunity !!!

Haaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha !!!!!

Bob Chapman said that if the SPX closes below 750 it will signal the total destruction of the U.S. financial markets.

Right now:

$SPX $749.65 -20.40

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-23   13:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TwentyTwelve (#9)

Bob Chapman said that if the SPX closes below 750 it will signal the total detruction of the U.S. financial markets.

Right now:

$SPX $749.65 -20.40

My neighbor and I had this discussion last week when it was obvious we'd dive under 750 today or tomorrow.

I hope he listened to me. Now the technicals are going to kick in with a vengeance.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-23   14:08:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Rotara (#10) (Edited)

Bob Chapman said that if the SPX closes below 750 it will signal the total destruction of the U.S. financial markets.

Right now:

$SPX $749.65 -20.40

My neighbor and I had this discussion last week when it was obvious we'd dive under 750 today or tomorrow.

I hope he listened to me. Now the technicals are going to kick in with a vengeance.

It is very difficult getting the sheeple to understand what is really happening.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-23   14:10:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TwentyTwelve (#11)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-23   14:21:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: christine (#0)

The only way our economy could ever recover would be if the government were to force all US based corporations who have migrated offshore to close their offshore facilities and relocate them here in the US. They would also need to cease the practice of outsourcing to other countries, and eliminate any new work visas except for perhaps the most prominent foreign scientists who truly would bring new knowledge and expertise to our country.

It will be a cold day in hell before THIS government ever does that though, as they are simply puppets for those who profit from the destruction of our economy.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-23   14:22:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: FormerLurker (#13)

The only way our economy could ever recover would be if the government were to force all US based corporations who have migrated offshore to close their offshore facilities and relocate them here in the US.

This will never happen.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-23   14:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TwentyTwelve (#14) (Edited)

It will have to happen eventually, it's just a matter of how long it will take. Perhaps once our country has suffered for a decade of starvation, and they've rounded people up into work centers where they work at the point of a gun (or some "non-lethal" weapon such as a tazer) for free, it will happen.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-23   14:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rotara (#5)

Nothing gets better for us now until Jesus returns.

...and who knows, that could be sooner than people think....thief in the night....

As In The Days of Noah....As the Word of God declares the time of the Son of man coming would be as the days of Noah were. We are living in those days today. Perilous and exciting times. We are here to encourage you in your daily walk with the Lord and to help you wake up as our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed!...... Green Comet Approaches Earth [never seen in our solar system before...won't be seen again for a million years. sign ???] asinthedaysofnoah.blogspo...met-approaches-earth.html

Comet Lulin arrives tonight - break out your telescopes ... Feb 23, 2009 ... Comet Lulin will make its closest approach to Earth on Monday night. ... features.csmonitor.com/di...reak-out-your-telescopes/ - 3 hours ago

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-23   14:30:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#16)

Amen


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-23   14:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Rotara (#17)

I just had a horrible thought....I hope it's not Project Blue Beam! what interesting times we live in.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2009-02-23   14:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TwentyTwelve (#9)

$SPX $749.65 -20.40

Yeah, there's never a Plunge Protection Team around when you need one.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-02-23   15:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: All (#19)

Are the markets going to collapse into the close, or will PPT save the day?

PMs have pared most of their earlier losses.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-02-23   15:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Esso (#19)

$SPX $749.65 -20.40

Yeah, there's never a Plunge Protection Team around when you need one.

Where do you think it will close today?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-02-23   15:15:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TwentyTwelve (#21)

No idea. The last few minutes of trading should be exciting though.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-02-23   15:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#18)

I just had a horrible thought....I hope it's not Project Blue Beam! what interesting times we live in.

PROJECT BLUE BEAM

 The infamous NASA Blue Beam Project has four different steps in order to implement the new age religion with the antichrist at its head. We must remember that the new age religion is the very foundation for the new world government, without which religion the dictatorship of the new world order is completely impossible. I'll repeat that: Without a universal belief in the new age religion, the success of the new world order will be impossible! That is why the Blue Beam Project is so important to them, but has been so well hidden until now.

The first step concerns the breakdown of all archeological knowledge. It deals with the setup with artificially created earthquakes at certain precise locations on the planet where, supposedly, new discoveries will finally explain to all people the error of all fundamental religious doctrines. The falsification of this information will be used to make all nations believe that their religious doctrines have been misunderstood for centuries and misinterpreted. Psychological preparations for that first step have already been implemented with the film, "2001: A Space Oddessy;" the StarTrek series, and "Star Wars;" all of which deal with invasions from space and the coming together of all nations to repel the invaders. The last films, "Jurrassic Park," deals with the theories of evolution, and claim God's words are lies.

What is important to understand in the first step is that those earthquakes will hit at different parts of the world where scientific and archeological teachings have indicated that arcane mysteries have been buried. By those types of earthquakes, it will possible for scientists to re-discover those arcane mysteries which will be used to discredit all fundamental religious doctrines. This is the first preparation for the plan for humanity because what they want to do is destroy the beliefs of all Christians and Muslims on the planet. To do that, they need some false "proof" from the far past that will prove to all nations that their religions have all been misinterpreted and misunderstood.

The second step involves a gigantic "space show" with three-dimensional optical holograms and sounds, laser projection of multiple holographic images to different parts of the world, each receiving a different image according to predominating regional national religious faith. This new "god's" voice will be speaking in all languages. In order to understand that, we must study various secret services' research done in the last 25 years.

The Soviet's have perfected an advanced computer, even exported them, and fed them with the minute physio-psycological particulars based on their studies of the anatomy and electro-mechanical composition of the human body, and the studies of the electrical, chemical and biological properties of the human brain.

These computers were fed, as well, with the languages of all human cultures and their meanings. The dialects of all cultures have been fed into the computers from satellite transmissions. The Soviets began to feed the computers with objective programs like the ones of the new messiah. It also seems that the Soviets - the new world order people - have resorted to suicidal methods with the human society by allocating electronic wavelengths for every person and every society and culture to induce suicidal thoughts if the person doesn't comply with the dictates of the new world order.

There are two different aspects of step two. The first is the "space show." Where does the space show come from? The space show, the holographic images will be used in a simulation of the ending during which all nations will be shown scenes which will be the fulfillment of that which they desire to verify the prophecies and adversary events. These will be projected from satellites onto the sodium layer about 60 miles above the earth. We see tests every once in a while, but they are called UFOs and "flying saucers." The result of these deliberately staged events will be to show the world the new "christ," the new messiah, Matreya, for the immediate implementation of the new world religion. Enough truth will be foisted upon an unsuspecting world to hook them into the lie. "Even the most learned will be deceived." The project has perfected the ability for some device to lift up an enormous number of people, as in a rapture, and whisk the entire group into a never-never land. We see tests of this device in the abduction of humans by those mysterious little alien greys. who snatch people out of their beds and through windows into waiting "mother ships."

The calculated resistance to the universal religion and the new messiah and the ensuing holy wars will result in the loss of human life on a scale never imagine before in all of human history. The Blue Beam Project will pretend to be the universal fulfillment of the prophecies of old, as major an event as that which occurred 2,000 years ago. In principle, it will make use of the skies as a movie screen (on the sodium layer at about 60 miles) as space-based laser-generating satellites project simultaneous images to the four corners of the planet in every language and dialect according to the region. It deals with the religious aspect of the new world order and is deception and seduction on a massive scale. Computers will coordinate the satellites and software already in place will run the sky show.

Holographic images are based on nearly identical signals combining to produce an image or hologram with deep perspective which is equally applicable to acoustic ELF, VLF and LF waves and optical phenomena. Specifically, the show will consist of multiple holographic images to different parts of the world, each receiving a different image according to the specific national, regional religion. Not a single area will be excluded. With computer animation and sounds appearing to emanate from the very depths of space, astonished ardent followers of the various creeds will witness their own returned messaihs in convincing lifelike reality. Then the projections of Jesus, Mohammed, Buddah, Krishna, etc., will merge into one after correct explanations of the mysteries and revelations will have been disclosed. This one god will, in fact, be the antichrist, who will explain that the various scriptures have been misunderstood and misinterpreted, and that the religions of old are responsible for turning brother against brother, and nation against nation, therefore old religions must be abolished to make way for the new age new world religion, representing the one god antichrist they see before them.


Naturally, this superbly staged falsification will result in dissolved social and religious disorder on a grand scale, each nation blaming the other for the deception, setting loose millions of programmed religious fanatics through demonic possession on a scale never witnessed before.
 

In addition, this event will occur at a time of profound worldwide political anarchy and general tumult created by some worldwide catastrophe. The United Nation even now plans to use Beethoven's "Song of Joy" as the anthem for the introduction for the new age one world religion. If we put this space show in parallel with the star wars program we get this: combination of electromagnetic radiation and hypnosis have also been the subject of intensive research. In 1974, for instance, researcher G. F. Shapits, said of one of the research proposals that, "...in this investigation it will be shown that the spoken words of the hypnotist may also be converted by electromagnetic energy directly and to the subconscious part of the human brain without employing any mechanical device for receiving or trans cording the message, and without the person exposed to such influence having a chance to control the information input consciously. It may be expected that the rationalized behavior will be considered to have been taken out of their own free will." Anyone investigating so-called "channeling" phenomena right now would be wise to take this area of research into consideration. It will be noted that those who think of themselves as "channelers" has escalated rapidly since this type of research was conducted. It is uncanny how similar their messages are, despite which entity they claim to be their source of divine guidance. It would suggest any individual considering the credibility of channeled information should be discerning and critically evaluate where the message they are receiving originates, and if the messages are specifically beneficially to the new world order. The Sydney Morning newspaper published an item on March 21st, 1983 which announced that the Soviets were invading the human mind, the article having been submitted to the foreign editor by Doctor Nathan Abnuengy, assistant professor in the faculty of agriculture in Asia. It is worth quoting the article at length even though his grammer is a little old. This article relates to the Soviets who created the supercomputer we were discussing earlier and which is really important because these types of computers can be run through satellites and through space. The computers were fed with all the different languages and their meanings, the dialect of all peoples were fed to the computers with objective programs. But we are no longer talking about the Soviets; we are talking about the United Nations, the minions of the new world order, who are feeding the computers with the necessary information. The editor of the column in which the article appeared even states that the piece made points too important to ignore.


I think it is possible that the persons who have created this mega-mind control program could sell the software to an organization and not be aware that the client might use the program and data to enslave all of humankind. Just imagine how far they have advanced since that article was published! The advancement of techniques propel us toward the third step in the Blue Beam Project that goes along with the telepathic and electronically augmented two-way communication where ELF, VLF and LF waves will reach each person from within his or her own mind, convincing each of them that their own god is speaking to them from the very depths of their own soul. Such rays from satellites are fed from the memories of computers that have stored massive data about every human on earth, and their languages. The rays will then interlace with their natural thinking to form what we call diffuse artifical thought. That kind of technology goes into the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s research where the human brain has been compared to a computer. Information is fed in, processed, integrated and then a response is formulated and acted upon.


Mind controllers manipulate information the same way a computer for grammer manipulates information. In January 1991, the University of Arizona hosted a conference entitled, "The NATO Advanced Research Workshop on Current and Emergent Phenomena and Biomolecular Systems."


What does that mean exactly? It means this: We refer to one paper that was delivered at the conference which stands out for its different attitude towards the development under discussion at that time. It was, in effect, a protest and chilling warning to the attending scientists about the potential abuse of their research findings.

Their findings, of course, stated that the United States has already developed communications equipment which can make the blind see, the deaf hear and the lame walk. It can relieve the terminally ill from pain without the use of drugs or surgery. I'm not talking about science fiction. A man might retain the use of all his faculties right up to the moment of his death. This communications equipment depends upon a completely new way of looking at the human brain and neuro-muscular systems and radiation pulses at ultra-low frequencies. Some of this equipment is now operational within the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and Federal Bureau of Investigation. It will never be used to make the blind see, the deaf hear and the lame walk because it is central to the domestic political agenda and foreign policy of George Bush and his puppet masters of the new world order.

Domestically, the new communications equipment is being used to torture and murder person who match profiles imagined to be able to screen a given population for terrorists; to torture and murder citizens who belong to organizations which promote tolerance and peace and development in Central America; to torture and murder citizens who belong to organizations who oppose the development and deployment of nuclear weapons, and to create a race of slave cult automatons, or what is popularly called "the Manchurian Candidates."

Overseas experimentation is taking place on hostages held by the United States and Canada, Great Britian, Australia, Germany, Finland and France.

Additionally, there has been a long series of bizarre suicides among British computer scientists, all of whom have had some connection to the United States Navy. What it is possible to ask before such a psychology of terror is this: would any government, corporation or psychiatrist willfully promote such horror today? The answer is quite obviously, "Yes." Government agencies and the corporations that work with them toward new world order are prepared to promote anything that will help them achieve their objective of total social control. As for the question of why: For one thing, if you terrify the public and make them fear for their safety, they will allow you to implement draconian law enforcement practice, disarm them and keep extensive records on them, and they only have to tell you that it is all to protect you, of course.

Secondly, it promotes the decay of the present democratic forms of political systems, and leads societies to search for alternative methods of political ideology. Of course, the alternative has already been planned. It is called the new world order and it will not have your safety or interests at heart. As George Bush said: "Read my lips." Fear has always been used by powerful elite to control and subjugate the masses. The old maxim, divide and conquer is being played out to the limit worldwide to ensure that everyone is frightened for their personal safety, and to be suspicious of everyone else. This, too, is mind control.

To go further in regard to the new technology which is at the base of the NASA Blue Beam Project, we have to consider this statement by psychologist James V. McConnell which was published in a 1970s issue of Psychology Today. He said, "The day has come when we can combine sensory deprivation with drug hypnosis and astute manipulation of reward and punishment to gain almost absolute control over an individual's behavior. It should then be possible to achieve a very rapid and highly effective type of positive brainwashing that would allow us to make dramatic changes in a person's behavior and personality."

Now, when we talked before about that kind of ray and the telepathic and electronically augmented communication, the kind of rays that are fed from the memories of computers which store massive data about humans, human language and dialects, and we said that the people will be reached from within, making each person to believe that his own god is speaking directly from within his or her own soul, we refer to that kind of technology and that kind of thinking that same psychologist was espousing, that is: we should be trained from birth that we should all do what society wants us to do rather than what we want to do for ourselves; that because they have the technology to do it, no one should now be allowed to have their own individual personality.

This statement and these ideas are important because it is the basic teaching of the United Nations that no one owns his or her own personality. And that same psycologist claims that no one has any say-so about the kind of personality they acquire and there is no reason to believe you have the right to refuse to acquire a new personality if your old personality is considered "antisocial." What is important in this declaration is that the new world order will be set up over the current system, meaning the old way of thinking and behavior and religion will be considered the "old" and incorrect way of thinking and that they can change it at one of the eradication camps of the United Nations to make sure that anyone with this "antisocial" behavior will be disposed of quickly so that other modified individuals will be able to fulfill the needs and agendas of the new world order without being distracted by the truth. Could this be the greatest mind control project ever? The NASA Blue Beam Project is the prime directive for the new world order's absolute control over the populations of the entire earth.

I would suggest you investigate this information carefully before dismissing it as fanatic lunacy. If we go further in the different reports we have presented, we find that the mind control operations and technology include a transmitter that broadcasts at the same frequency as the human nervous system, which transmitter is manufactured by the Loral Electro-Optical System in Pasadena, California. Loral, a major defense contractor, has previously conducted research on directed energy weapons for Lt. Gen. Leonard Perez of the U. S. Airforce who was searching for a weapon that could implant messages into the minds of the enemy while urging his own troops on to superhuman deeds of valor!

The device employs electromagnetic radiation of gigahertz frequencies pulsed at extremely low frequencies (ELF). It is used to torture people both physically and mentally from a distance. Weapons of this type are thought to have been used against a British woman protesting the presence of American Cruise Missiles at Greenham Common Airbase during the 1970s.

This weapon can be used to induce total sensory deprivation by broadcasting signals into the auditory nerve at such high power that it blocks the ability of the individual to hear themselves think! The process employed by such ELF technology are described in various U. S. Defense Department publications, including one entitled, " The Electromagnetic Spectrum and Low Intensity Conflict," by Captain Paul E. Tyler, Medical Commandant, U. S. Navy, which is included in a collection entitled, "Low Intensity Conflict and Modern Technology Edict," by Lt. Col David G. Dean, USAF. The paper was delivered in 1984 and the collection published 1986 by Air University Press, Maxwell Airforce Base, Alabama.

Another pulse microwave device can deliver audible signals directly to an individual while remaining undetectable to anyone else. The technology is very simple and can be built by using an ordinary police radar gun. The microwave beam generated by the device is modulated at audio frequencies and can broadcast messages directly into the brain. Now here we come to the NASA Blue Beam Project. The broadcasting of subliminal two-way communication and images from the depths of space correspond directly to that kind of technology.

In his book, "The Body Electric," Nobel Prize nominee Robert Baker describes a series of experiments conducted in the early 1960s by Allen Frie where this phenomena was demonstrated as well as later experiments conducted in 1973 at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research by Dr. Joseph C. Sharp who personally underwent tests in which he proved he could hear and understand messages delivered to him in an echo-free isolation chamber via a pulsed microwave audiogram which is an analog of the word's sound vibration beamed into his brain. Baker then goes on to state, "Such a device has obvious application for covert operations designed to drive a target crazy with unknown voices or deliver undetectable instructions to a programmed assassin." Now figure out when we hear that voice from the new world messiah who would be speaking from space to all of the sane people of the earth who might give instructions to zealots and religious fanatics, we would see hysteria and social mayhem on a scale never witnessed before on this planet. No police forces in the world, even as a combined front, could deal with the disorder that will follow! A 1978 book entitled, "Microwave Auditory Effect and Application," by James C. Lynn describes how audible voices can be broadcast directly into the brain. This technology could actually allow the blind to see and the deaf to hear. Instead, it has been turned into a weapon to enslave the world. Allen Frie also reports that he could speed up, slow down or stop the hearts of isolated frogs by synchronizing the pulsed rate of a microwave beam with the heart itself.

According to Robert Baker, similar results have been obtained using live frogs, which shows that it is technically feasible to produce heart attacks with rays designed to penetrate the human chest. EDITOR'S NOTE: Both the author of this report and his colleague died of "heart attacks" only days apart one in Canada and the other while visiting Ireland. Neither had a history of heart problems. I should mention also that Dr. Baker does NOT participate in such research. It has been demonstrated that focused ultra high frequency UHF electromagnetic energy beams can be used to induce considerable agitation and muscular activity or induce muscular weakness and lethargy. Microwaves can also be used to burn human skin and aid the effect of drugs, bacteria and poisons or affect the function of the entire brain. These effects were all revealed at length by the CIA on September 21, 1977 in testimony before the Subcommittee on Health and Scientific Research. Dr. Sidney Gottlieb.

Who directed the MK-Ultra program at that time was forced to discussed the scope of the CIA's research to find techniques of activation of the human organism by remote electronic means. So this is something that exists right now, that has been pursued to its highest degree, that can be used from space to reach any person, anyplace on the face of the earth. If we go deeper in that process of mind control over the people we find that the equipment and technology has been used to influence politics in a much more direct fashion. Michael Dukakis, the Democrat candidate running against George Bush in the 1988 election was targeted with microwave technology in order to impede his public speaking performance once the the public opinion polls showed he posed a serious threat to Bush's election prospects. He also claims that the equipment was used against Kitty Dukakis and drove her to the brink of suicide.

In the Disneyland world of U. S. politics, a presidential candidate with problems such as these, would obviously lose their race to the White House. In the December 1980 edition of the U. S. Army Journal, called the Military Review, a column by Lt. Col John B. Alexander, entitled, "The New Mental Battlefield: Beam Me Up, Spock," provides further insight into the technical capabilities at the disposal of the comptroller. He writes, "Several examples will demonstrate areas in which progress have been made. The transference of energy from one organism to another; the ability to heal or cause disease to be transmitted over a distance, thus inducing illness or death from no apparent cause; telepathic behavior modification which includes the ability to induce hypnotic states up to a distance of 1,000 kilometers have been reported. The use of telepathic hypnosis also holds great potential. This capability could allow agents to be deeply planted with no conscious knowledge of their programming. In movie terms, the Manchurian Candidate lives, and does not even require a telephone call.


"Other mind-to-mind induction techniques are being considered. If perfected this capability could allow the direct transferrence of thought via telepathy from one mind or group of minds to a select target audience. The unique factor is that the recipient will not be aware that thought has been implanted from an external source. He or she will believe the thoughts are original." This is exactly what we were talking about. The third step in the NASA Blue Beam Project is called the Telepathic Electronic Two-Way Communication. Lt. Col Alexander's article continues: "If it is possible to feed artificial thought into the multigenic field via satellite, the mind control of the entire planet is now possible.

An individual's only resistance would be to constantly question the motivation behind their thoughts and not act upon thoughts which they consider to be outside their own ideological, religious and moral boundaries." Once again, it is wise to consider how television, advertising, modern education and various types of social pressure are used to manipulate those boundaries. It has been reported by Lt. Col Alexander who said, in the summary of his Military Review article, "The information on those kinds of technologies presented here would be considered by some to be ridiculous since it does not conform to their view of reality. But some people still believe the world is flat."

Now, this means a lot, because if people do not believe this kind of technology is possible, or that it is science fiction, those people put themselves in great jeopardy, because on the night when those thousand stars will shine from space, during the night when the new messiah will be presented to the world, they will not be prepared and will have no time to prepare to save themselves against that kind of technology. They don't believe and they won't take time to prepare.


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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-23   16:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#18)

Revelation 1

 1The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

 2Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

 3Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

 4John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

 5And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

 6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

 7Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

 8I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

 9I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 10I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

 11Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

 12And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;

 13And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

 14His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

 15And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

 16And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

 17And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

 18I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

 19Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

 20The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-23   16:20:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: FormerLurker (#13)

what a sad and tragic turn of events. 8 yrs ago, i could never have envisioned the demise of my country. i used to smile a lot more.

christine  posted on  2009-02-23   17:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: christine (#25)

It was around this time 8 years ago, after Chimpy stole the election, that I began telling people it was "over" for this country. No one would believe me. I said this country could not survive another George Bush in office.

Then when I kept telling them Darth and the Chimp were a combination of evil and incompetent and, within weeks of it happening told them they had likely been in on 9/11 (the "anthrax attacks" are what clinched it for me in terms of the "inside job"), people began to consider me crazy and my now-former fellow churchgoers at the Baptist church almost physically assaulted me (because they worshipped Bush).

It's clearly "over" now and the cool thing for all the yahoos around here is now they no longer have to explain how the great "man of God" Bush could be going so wrong. Now it is ALL Obama's fault. The last 8 years were wonderful, then suddenly - out of the blue! - it all fell apart a month ago because of the "Muslim nigra from Kenya."

< /sarcasm>

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-02-23   17:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: christine (#25)

i could never have envisioned the demise of my country. i used to smile a lot more.

Think back.

Johnson brought endless war, but because it was war involving Communism, the leftists were the only ones to riot and dissent. Middle and right said nothing.

Johnson brought us our first onslaught of socialism and people loved it.

The "ruling elite government" knew then that endless war and socialism were indeed acceptable to Americans if they were packaged in the right form.

What do we have????

War against "terrists", endless war, socialism has now merged with Capitalism and the people are wishing the "government" to save us all.

It was all there to see.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-23   17:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#25)

what a sad and tragic turn of events. 8 yrs ago, i could never have envisioned the demise of my country. i used to smile a lot more.

I was predicting this back in 2001-2003 on FR, where it was obvious to me at least that you can't ship all of our infrastructure off to a possible hostile foreign nation and expect things to go well. Add to that the loss of jobs here, and the number of people who will be forced to accept lower paying jobs than they were trained for or attended college for, if they can find work at all since there will be MANY other people ALSO looking for work.

Filling American jobs with foreign workers was just icing on the cake. It DOES illustrate how dishonest corporations are, in that they were sobbing about how there weren't enough Americans who could do the work, so they had to go elsewhere to find them and bring them in on H1B visas. At the time, there were massive layoffs in the IT industry and almost impossible for a seasoned engineer to find a job in the industry.

It wasn't a stretch to see how rents and mortgages would go unpaid, and for less products and services to be sold, as the number of people who could afford non-essential (and even ESSENTIAL) items continued to shrink from the ongoing loss of jobs paying a decent wage or salary.

Thing is, most people chose to believe the "experts" rather than using a bit of commonsense.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-23   17:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#27)

my eyes were still closed then.

christine  posted on  2009-02-23   17:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: christine (#25)

The fat lady ain't sung yet.

Their system is crashing down on their heads. Because they arent in control here. Seriously, is that a Bad Thing?

The rats are deserting a sinking ship. They will still drown.

We bitch and moan about the NWO and the prison system they created around us, and now it is coming down. We're going to get our wish.

You'll smile more. But first we need to get thru it.


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PSUSA  posted on  2009-02-23   17:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: PSUSA (#30)

Call Alex Jones. He'll straighten you out on this. It's all unfolding precisely according to the NWO plan. That's his take.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-02-23   18:02:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: FormerLurker, Cynicom (#28)

it was actually Ross Perot who first made me the tiniest bit aware of any of this.

christine  posted on  2009-02-23   18:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Sam Houston, PSUSA (#31)

but in the next breath, Alex says there's a huge awakening taking place and we still have time to beat them. he said that to Tarpley today as a matter of fact.

christine  posted on  2009-02-23   18:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Sam Houston (#31) (Edited)

Call Alex Jones. He'll straighten you out on this. It's all unfolding precisely according to the NWO plan. That's his take.

It isn't mine.

The NWO isn't that smart. They are just greedy and arrogant and both of those mindsets have built-in pitfalls. And it's all about to bite them on the ass. Hard.

Truly it sucks to be them. If I could be an "elite", if they selected me for that "honor", I'd spit in their faces.


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PSUSA  posted on  2009-02-23   18:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#29)

Chance favors the prepared mind.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-02-23   18:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: PSUSA (#30)

Their system is crashing down on their heads. Because they arent in control here. Seriously, is that a Bad Thing?

The rats are deserting a sinking ship. They will still drown.

We bitch and moan about the NWO and the prison system they created around us, and now it is coming down. We're going to get our wish.

You'll smile more. But first we need to get thru it.

Brother, you must know how much I love you.

That being said, "He who controls the currency controls the country (world)".

and

"HE WHO CONTROLS CREDIT CONTROLS THE MARKETS"

When you say it's coming crashing down on THEM I have to wonder what planet you're living on and what data you're using to quantify your conclusion.

I haven't even mentioned their technology and warfare advantages, how they can turn off almost anyone, effectively, through the machine which they control.

Anyone off the grid, stocked for survival and willing to kill and constantly relocate MIGHT get to the other side.

Assuming their is one.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-23   18:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: christine (#32)

I would have voted for Perot if he hadn't withdrawn from the election, then decided to run again. It seemed like he was a bit flakey, little did I realize that his concerns for his family may very well have been justified.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-02-23   18:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#33)

but in the next breath, Alex says there's a huge awakening taking place and we still have time to beat them. he said that to Tarpley today as a matter of fact.

Only God Himself can get done what needs to be done at this point. I say that in total seriousness.

It's truly mind boggling what this (former) country is inhabited by these days.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-23   18:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: FormerLurker (#37)

do you remember when Perot endorsed jr bush in 2k? things that make you go hmmmmm.

christine  posted on  2009-02-23   18:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Rotara (#36)

You're a Christian, right? God is sovereign, right? You have faith, right? You remember what happen to the first tower of Babel, right? They are trying to rebuild it. Do you think the result will be any different?

Read your post from that perspective and tell me again who controls what.


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PSUSA  posted on  2009-02-23   18:17:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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