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Title: Hidden Cameras in DTV Converters? YouTube Hoax Fans Conspiracy Fears. Thank you Alex Jones. What did you say about it?
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URL Source: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/02/dtv-converters.html
Published: Feb 24, 2009
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Post Date: 2009-02-24 12:26:42 by PSUSA
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Views: 569
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Ever wonder what the government is really up to paying for all those digital TV converter boxes? Last week a Spokane, Washington man claimed he'd discovered the horrifying truth, and he produced a YouTube video to prove it. In a 90-second video that's popping up on tin-foil-hat sites everywhere, 28-year-old software engineer Adam Chronister is seen cracking open his government-subsidized Magnavox converter, and revealing to the world the tiny video camera and microphone hidden inside. "I had a friend who was trying to tell me that they put cameras in these things," Chronister narrates in a deadly-serious monotone. "So what I did was open it up to prove them wrong, and lo and behold ... this thing does in fact have both a camera and a microphone. " His finger points at a small lens attached to a transformer in the guts of the unit. The video instantly went viral, tapping into a current of DTV conspiracy theory that's been building online since the government started issuing $40 converter box coupons last summer. So far, the U.S. has spent $1.3 billion subsidizing the boxes that will keep TV lovers watching CSI when the last broadcasters shut off their analog transmissions in June. The huge government effort to put a -- mysterious, to many -- piece of technology in millions of American homes has spurred conspiracy theories ranging from a mind control experiments to mass telescreen surveillance. Last week Chronister's video was promoted on the conspiracy-friendly Alex Jones radio show, and as of Monday the clip has chalked up almost 200,000 views and over 850 comments, many skeptical, but an equal number expressing alarm. "This is nuts! I had an odd feeling when the government planned to pay for everyone [to] get one of these," wrote one viewer. "Yup, that's a camera, and a mic. Holy shit. I am taking my DVR apart tonight," added another. In an interview with Threat Level, Chronister admits the whole thing was a hoax, concocted in about five minutes with a hot glue gun and parts from an old cell phone. The reaction surprised even him. "I was listening to the Alex Jones show ... and I heard him mention the video," Chronister says. "I just about fell out of the shower." Chronister says the video is partially true: A friend really did share the rumor about hidden camera in the DTV converters. "I originally opened up the device with the intention of proving him wrong," says Chronister. "At which point the thought popped in my head, wouldn't it be funny if I proved him right instead?" Observers in more technical forums like BroadbandReports.com have dissected the video and easily discerned that it's a hoax, with some taking apart their own converter boxes to provide proof. But even as posts debunking the clip roll into his YouTube comments, some remain convinced of its veracity. "There are still people defending the video," he says. As a sometimes-believer of conspiracy theories himself, Chronister is sympathetic. But critics charge that Chronister's prank only provides a smoke screen for genuine government wrongdoing. He's more worried about a different kind of backlash. "I've seen videos go viral before, but I never thought some stupid little video I did would get popular like that," he says. "I'm waiting for the Magnavox police to come and haul me off or something."
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#10. To: PSUSA (#0)
OK here is the original url's http://www.prisonplanet.com/hidden-spy-camera-mic-found-inside-digital-tv- box.html http://www.infowars.com/hidden-spy-camera-mic-found-inside-digital-tv-box/ and here is the mirrored, google cache of the original article, (linked from the wired blog,) which AJ scrapped after realizing it was a hoax: But even the orignal story states that the disputed validity of this youtube vid does not take away from the proven facts: ---------------------------- Paul Joseph Watson Prison Planet.com Wednesday, February 18, 2009 A popular video circulating on You Tube shows the discovery of a spy camera and a microphone hidden inside a digital TV converter box. Such devices are part of a government and industry surveillance program that is undoubtedly connected to the forced digital TV switchover being rolled out in the UK and US. “I could not believe my eyes,” states the blurb accompanying the video clip, “I have a friend who is kind of a conspiracy theorist. He was trying to convince me that many of the digital TV convert boxes that are coming out have microphones and cameras built into them. Knowing a bit about electronics I bought one of these devices opened it up fully intending on proving him wrong. To my surprise he was right. This device has both a miniature camera lens and what looks like a microphone. I was so shocked I took pictures and video. Please send this out to everyone you know who is using one of these devices.” The camera and microphone were hidden inside a MAGNAVOX TB110MW9 Digital to Analog Converter box. We are not suggesting that every digital cable box has a spy camera and microphone inside, so ripping open your cable box is not a good way to prove this one way or another - but the fact remains that companies like Google and Comcast have openly announced that they plan to use hidden cameras and microphones inside their products to spy on consumers.
Oh really? Where is this open announcement? This is completely different from what JT posted. Sheesh, things are bad enough without writing crap like this.
As we highlighted three years ago, private industry and eventually government is planning to use microphones in the computers of an estimated 150 million-plus Internet active Americans, as well as similar devices installed inside digital TV boxes, to spy on their lifestyle choices and build psychological profiles which will be used for surveillance and minority report style invasive advertising and data mining. Digital cable TV boxes, such as Scientific Atlanta, have had secret in-built microphones inside them since their inception in the late 199057;s and these originally dormant devices were planned to be activated when the invasive advertising revolution was being rolled out, a watershed that is quickly becoming a reality. The advent of digital video recording devices such as TiVo (Sky Plus in the UK) introduced the creation of psychological algorithm profiles - databases on what programs you watched, how long you watched them for, and which adverts you liked or didn57;t like. This information was retained by TiVo and sold to the highest bidders - an example being Janet Jackson’s wardrobe malfunction during the 2003 Super Bowl half-time show; TiVo were able to compile lists of how many people had rewound the clip and how many times they had replayed it. In 2006, Google announced that they would use in-built computer microphones to listen in on user57;s background noise, be it television, music or radio - and then direct advertising at them based on their preferences. In March last year, Comcast announced that they were 60;experimenting with different camera technologies built into devices so it can know who’s in your living room.61; The cameras would use body-form recognition to confirm who was in the room and then tailor program recommendations, as well as commercials, to target that member of the family.
comcast article: http://newteevee.com/2008/03/18/comcast-cameras-to-start-watching-you/ Written by Chris Albrecht Posted Tuesday, March 18, 2008 at 11:42 AM PT Comcast Cameras to Start Watching You? If you have some tinfoil handy, now might be a good time to fashion a hat. At the Digital Living Room conference today, Gerard Kunkel, Comcast’s senior VP of user experience, told me the cable company is experimenting with different camera technologies built into devices so it can know who’s in your living room. The idea being that if you turn on your cable box, it recognizes you and pulls up shows already in your profile or makes recommendations. If parents are watching TV with their children, for example, parental controls could appear to block certain content from appearing on the screen. Kunkel also said this type of monitoring is the “holy grail” because it could help serve up specifically tailored ads. Yikes. Kunkel said the system wouldn’t be based on facial recognition, so there wouldn’t be a picture of you on file (we hope). Instead, it would distinguish between different members of your household by recognizing body forms. He stressed that the system is still in the experimental phase, that there hasn’t been consumer testing, and that any rollout “must add value” to the viewing experience beyond serving ads. Perhaps I’ve seen Enemy of the State too many times, or perhaps I’m just naive about the depths to which Comcast currently tracks my every move. I can’t trust Comcast with BitTorrent, so why should I trust them with my must-be-kept- secret, DVR-clogging addiction to Keeping Up with the Kardashians? Kunkel also spoke on camera with me about fixing bad Comcast user experiences, the ongoing BitTorrent battle and VOD. But he mostly towed the corporate line on these issues (the monitoring your living room came up after my camera was put away).
http://newteevee.com/2008/03/23/update-comcast-responds-to-camera-story/ Written by Chris Albrecht Posted Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 10:22 AM PT Update: Comcast Responds to Camera Story The story of Comcast’s desire to know who’s in your living room has certainly touched off a web-wide frenzy, starting in our comments section and finding its way into The New York Times. Gerard Kunkel, Comcast senior vice president of user experience, and the man interviewed for the original story, responded in our post comments section. In the interest of fairness, we wanted to give Mr. Kunkel’s response more prominence. Chris, Your article on “Comcast Cameras to Start Watching You” portrayed some assumptions that require correction and clarification. I want to be clear that in no way are we exploring any camera devices that would monitor customer behavior. To gather information for your article on Comcast’s exploration of cameras you picked up on my conversation with another conference attendee. The other attendee and I were deep in a conversation discussing a variety of input devices offered by a variety of vendors that Comcast is reviewing. The camera-based gesture recognition device is in no way designed to – or capable of – monitoring your living room. These technologies are designed to allow simple navigation on a television set just as the Wii remote uses a camera to manage its much heralded gesture-based interactivity. We are constantly exploring new technologies that better serve our customers. The goal is simple – a better user experience that allows the consumer to get ever increasing value out of their Comcast products. As with any new technology, we carefully consider the consumer benefits. In fact, we do an enormous amount of consumer testing in advance of making a product decision such as this. I’m confident that a new technology like gesture- based navigation will be fully explored with consumers to understand the product’s feature benefits – and of course, the value to the consumer. Sincerely, Gerard Kunkel I responded to Mr. Kunkel in our comment with the following: Hi Mr. Kunkel, Just to further clarify. After you granted me our initial video interview, you brought up the topic of Comcast knowing who was in the living room in a conversation between you, myself and another conference attendee. I actually left and came back to follow up on this point while you were talking with that same attendee. At this point, you were aware that I was a reporter and I took handwritten notes in front of you as we talked to make sure I had an accurate accounting of what you were saying. I’d love to talk further with either you or someone else at Comcast to follow up on this story.
Thank you! It's older info but it was news to me. Especially the comcast article. I already have the cam built in to my laptop taped over knowing how (probably) easy it could be activated without my knowing it. I know, call me paranoid... Living in a police state will do that. I'll pass that around.
I appreciate the fact that you don't blindly believe 'anyone', and i know his style seems exagerated at times and he skims over details . But I think Alex is great. He always says research it for yourself. I listen to his show daily via cell phone now, it's very entertaining. 512-646-5000 24 hour listen line
That comcast article was, IMO, a little weak. Not to say it's not true, but in checking a little deeper it might have been misinterpreted. All articles I found linked back to that story. Comcast might be a rotting corpse full of maggots, but this story, IMO, isnt the one to prove it. But the google article was right on. I've listened to him on coast-to-coast. But every time I went thru Austin I couldnt find his broadcast. So either he isn't on AM, or FM, or my timing was off.
do you listen to much radio at all? talk/ patriot radio etc?
No. Except for AJ on C2C. That;s it. I have no desire to listen to them because I just dont trust them. I have a problem with the reliability of the info some of them present. Hal Turner, for example. I do better looking things up for myself. Besides, I know things are bad and there just isn't much else they can tell me. JMO
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#14. To: Artisan (#10)
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but the fact remains that companies like Google and Comcast have openly announced that they plan to use hidden cameras and microphones inside their products to spy on consumers.
#17. To: PSUSA (#14)
from the linked article:
#19. To: All, PSUSA (#17)
See post 18 for google story.
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COMCAST responds to story
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#26. To: Artisan (#25)
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#30. To: Artisan (#29)
do you listen to much radio at all? talk/ patriot radio etc?
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