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Title: GOP Rising Star Jindal's Speech A 'Coming-Out Party'
Source: CNN
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Published: Feb 24, 2009
Author: By Samira Simone
Post Date: 2009-02-24 19:32:09 by Brian S
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Thrust into the spotlight as a Republican rising star, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal has been depicted as an up-and-comer capable of helping reshape the party and jockeying for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination. Being tapped to give the GOP response to President Obama's address elevates Gov. Bobby Jindal's standing in the party.

Being tapped to give the GOP response to President Obama's address elevates Gov. Bobby Jindal's standing in the party.

And now, Jindal's party is putting him on a national platform, awarding the once little-known congressman the political plum of delivering the Republican's televised response to President Barack Obama's address to Congress Tuesday night.

"The speech is very important. This is his coming-out party," said G. Pearson Cross, head of the University of Louisiana's political science department, who has observed Jindal's political rise. "His speech will put a face on the name."

And put a fresh face on the Republican Party.

The GOP, still reeling from election beatings in 2006 and 2008, is looking to revamp itself by rebuilding from the states up and reaching out to young voters. At 37, the popular Louisiana governor embodies that mission, experts say.

"The job is very important in framing the Republican message really for the rest of the year," said Nick Ayers, executive director of the Republican Governors Association, referring to the response speech Tuesday. "Gov. Jindal provides the outside-the-beltway, not D.C., perspective. And he's one of the smartest policy minds in the country. He's not perceived as a overtly political person."

Being tapped for this prime-time speech, a job normally for congressional leaders, has helped to elevate Jindal's standing in the party dominated by old pros, including Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Minority Leader John Boehner, as well as personalities, such as Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

"It's time for another generation to come into play," said GOP strategist Ed Rollins, a CNN contributor. "A lot of Republicans came of age under Reagan, which was 25 years ago ... and we just haven't built on that with young people."

Rollins, a veteran of the Reagan White House, called Jindal, a first-generation American born to Punjabi parents, a "young dynamic governor" with "appeal to younger voters."

The governor is a "textbook Republican" who is "scary smart," Cross added.

And, having an accomplished minority figure represent your party's message doesn't hurt, he said.

"The Republican Party very strongly wants to have a new look," he said. "They're saying, 'We're not just a party of old white guys' and he's part of that appeal."

Born Piyush Jindal in Louisiana's capital, Baton Rouge, he called winning his first election in 2004 to the U.S. House of Representatives "the ultimate embodiment of the American dream." He was only 33.

By age 28, the former Rhodes Scholar had already served in three high-profile jobs, including head of Louisiana's Department of Health and Hospitals and president of the University of Louisiana system.

Aside from his rapidly paced career moves, his ethnic background and the making of his American identity have been points of interest. Jindal, while his legal name remains Piyush, publicly goes by "Bobby" -- a nickname he reportedly picked up from the youngest "Brady Bunch" character as a preschooler. A Hindu by birth, he converted to Catholicism after his grandfather's death.

"Coming from a family of recent immigrants reflects the opportunities in this country, and that's a principle the Republican Party represents," said David Winston, a Republican pollster and strategist.

Jindal, in a statement, said he is looking forward to hearing Obama's address and that he's honored to be delivering the Republican response immediately following the president's speech.

"Here in Louisiana, we have first-hand experience with reforming government and cutting taxes to stimulate our economy in uncertain times. This is a terrific opportunity to talk about our great state to the nation."

But Democrats say the problem is the message, not the messenger.

"It doesn't matter if it's Gov. Jindal or Gov. Palin or Mitch McConnell," said Democratic strategist Chris Kofinis. "At the end of the day, the policies they support are not the policies the American people support."

Obama is expected to focus on the economic crisis and the $787 billion stimulus bill among other issues during his first congressional address, and Jindal will likely rebut with a push for fiscal responsibility, Kofinis said.

"He'll probably flash back to the past, talking about fiscal responsibility and ignoring the fact that over the last eight years the Republicans have been the poster child for fiscal irresponsibility," he said.

The governor has been a vocal conservative critic of the stimulus package, highlighting what he considers waste at a White House meeting with governors on Monday. Jindal spoke to a large group of reporters after the session Monday, noting items such as $1 billion in added spending for the national census and $50 million in federal spending for the arts. iReport.com: What do you want to hear from Obama and Jindal?

It's "not apparent to me why they had to be in the stimulus package," said Jindal, while adding that his fellow Republican governors nevertheless wanted to give Obama "every opportunity" to succeed in sparking an economic recovery.

Jindal has announced plans to reject $100 million of stimulus funding for his state, saying it would require Louisiana to change its unemployment laws. Several other governors have expressed similar concerns.

Jindal made history in 2007 when, at 36, he was elected the nation's first Indian-American governor and the youngest in office. And he drew major national attention last year when he was widely thought by pundits to be on then-Republican presidential John McCain's short list for vice president.

"All the elements of who he is make him an attractive figure, particularly with the difficulty Republicans had with attracting the youth vote," Winston said. "Having a younger member of the party is something to be desired."

Palin got the job, though Jindal did not slip into obscurity with many analysts still looking to him as a potential presidential candidate. And although Jindal has said he's focused on his job as governor, his presidential ambitions are "one of the worst kept secrets in Louisiana," Kofinis said.

Jindal was expected to headline the Republican National Convention in August, but canceled to oversee his state's response to Hurricane Gustav. iReport.com: How are you coping with the economy?

His state still recovering from Hurricane Katrina, Jindal ordered a mandatory evacuation and called up some 3,000 National Guardsmen to coordinate the exodus.

Jindal's actions were in stark contrast to former Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco's shaky and largely criticized reaction to Katrina. The little-known Jindal, who narrowly lost the 2003 gubernatorial election to Blanco, won the post outright in the 2007 primary with 54 percent of the vote.

Republicans in Washington took notice. Boehner, R-Ohio, and McConnell, R-Kentucky, support the idea of Jindal serving as the official GOP spokesman Tuesday night.

"Gov. Jindal embodies what I have long said: The Republican Party must not be simply the party of opposition, but the party of better solutions," Boehner said when he announced that Jindal was slated to give the response.

A recent CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey indicates that Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin top the list of potential 2012 Republican presidential hopefuls, attracting about one-third of Republicans and independents who lean toward the GOP, from among those surveyed. The survey is an early measure of possible support, not a horse-race snapshot.

Jindal, falling behind former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, grabbed the backing of 19 percent. Florida Gov. Charlie Crist drew 7 percent.

As for 2012, Winston said it's too early to know who the front-runners will be, but expect to see more of Jindal.

"We'll see more of him, but along with other folks," said Winston, pointing out Giuliani, Palin and Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele. "Without a clear central person, i.e. George Bush, there are a lot of people who step forward to determine which direction the party will go."

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#7. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#4)

-------Palin must scared the living daylights out of the RNC.

You Palinbots are delusional if you think that she's anything besides a neocon puppet.

Before you jump all over Refinersfire, Palin does scare the crap out of the establishment RNC types and the Republicans that they represent. Behind the culturally conservative postitions that she stakes out resides a latent nationalism that exists among those that lend her support. She has the kind of white working class support that gives them a sick headache.

Jindal, on the other hand, can be bought. He's the type that a Don Rickles movie character was speaking of when he said, "He's a Republican - with him you can hondle." Jindal is the kind of guy that the big honkies can do business with. "He's not perceived as a overtly political person."

Palin may be a puppet, but she's not the brand of marionette that the big boys are at all comfortable with. She has baggage, and the backhanded treatment that she gets from the MSM bears that out.

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randge  posted on  2009-02-25   16:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: randge (#7)

She has baggage, and the backhanded treatment that she gets from the MSM bears that out.

For someone that is a nobody, stupid, why indeed do the good ole boys even bother to concern themselves??????

I will tell you why. BOTH parties are now afraid that Palin may indeed jump ship and run third party. The constant whining and sniveling about Palin is indeed bipartisan. Both "parties" do not want to take any chance whatsoever of someone gaining popularity.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-25   16:19:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Sam Houston, all (#5)

If you actually saw his speech, you'll already know that we will not be hearing him touted by too many of the GOPers from now on. He has "come out" and now will be ordered back into the non-presidential-material closet.

Agree - he looked like a failed used car salesman.

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Lod  posted on  2009-02-25   16:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#8)

I will tell you why. BOTH parties are now afraid that Palin may indeed jump ship and run third party.

Hey, Cyni, this is interesting.

Couldn't find anything on this. Do you have a reference or link??

Lots of talk that she wants to be a contender in '12, but there's no scenario I've seen that has her as anything but Republican.

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randge  posted on  2009-02-25   16:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#8)

For someone that is a nobody, stupid, why indeed do the good ole boys even bother to concern themselves??????

The same reason they talk about Paris Hilton?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-25   16:33:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: randge (#7) (Edited)

Palin may be a puppet, but she's not the brand of marionette that the big boys are at all comfortable with.

Almost everything she said during the '08 campaign may as well have been scripted by Karl Rove. What's there not to like when they get Bush in a skirt? The "big boys" would be just as comfortable with her as they were with W. Does the liberal media attack and ridicule her? Sure, just as they ridiculed Bush - most of it fair, some of it not.

Just because liberals don't like somebody doesn't mean they're worth a damn. For every liberal who said bad things about Bush or Palin, there's a neoconservative talking head cheering them on.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-25   16:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#11)

The same reason they talk about Paris Hilton?

If that is serious, we are in trouble.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-25   16:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#6)

Well, who else does the GOP have?

Piyush Jindal ( the Dem ploy to malign him by using his original first name that backfired - Bubbas 4 Bobby became a popular bumpersticker) was the sacrifical lamb. For most, IMO, like Michael Steele, a little too much kowtowing to the minority crowd (not always said minorities themselves) will be the popular perception.

Palin may never get over her 'coming out' last summer and fall, since the caricatures of her have hardened to reality, (perceptions, mainly, but why quibble).

History never repeats itself, but a retired General did lead the party out of the boonies a half century ago.

Now, whether Obama stay in 4 or 8 years is almost irrelevant, in fact, it might actually play to the gentleman's advantage.

Remember the Super Bowl? The coin toss? The first photo-op of the 2012 campaign.

Enter Stage (to Trumpets and Drums), General Petraeus.

swarthyguy  posted on  2009-02-25   16:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: swarthyguy (#14) (Edited)

Piyush Jindal ( the Dem ploy to malign him by using his original first name that backfired - Bubbas 4 Bobby became a popular bumpersticker) was the sacrifical lamb. For most, IMO, like Michael Steele, a little too much kowtowing to the minority crowd (not always said minorities themselves) will be the popular perception.

Palin may never get over her 'coming out' last summer and fall, since the caricatures of her have hardened to reality, (perceptions, mainly, but why quibble).

2008-2009 will be remembered politically as the GOP's year of token candidates. A token female VP candidate. A token black chair of the RNC. A token Indian "spokesman."

The Democrats are much better at this sort of thing - they've been playing it for 40 years, it's time for Republican wannabes to find some new gig or leave the stage to the professional clowns.

>Dem ploy to malign him by using his original first name that backfired

At least they didn't call him "Macaca."

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-25   16:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#12)

Just because liberals don't like somebody doesn't mean they're worth a damn.

I don't disagree with you there.

I'm just saying that the PTB doesn't dislike Palin per se. They just have contempt for some of the riffraff that she attracts.

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randge  posted on  2009-02-25   16:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: randge, jethro tull, christine (#10)

Couldn't find anything on this. Do you have a reference or link??

I recall I may have PMed Jethro and Christine at the time as we were wondering why the anti Palin whining concerning a loser.

I read it in some squib of marginal MSM if memory serves me right.

It is rare indeed to see endless political bashing of one person by MSM and BOTH parties.

Paul lit a flame and bailed out on us, most people NEVER HEARD OF THE MAN.

EVERYONE breathing regularly has heard of Palin, so what is the fuss about a person that is a nobody????

Only ONE conclusion.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-25   16:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#15)

The Democrats are much better at this sort of thing

Yes.

Colin Powell. You can't keep 'em on the farm once they've seen the lights of the big city.

Even tho' rather late, Powell certainly bitchslapped the son of his benefactor.

swarthyguy  posted on  2009-02-25   16:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Sam Houston (#5)

He has "come out" and now will be ordered back into the non-presidential-material closet.

Not so sure of that.

Hannity is frantically huffing air back into the Jindal balloon this afternoon, whining about the lously commentary he received after his address and having him on as a guest.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-02-25   16:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: swarthyguy (#18)

Even tho' rather late, Powell certainly bitchslapped the son of his benefactor

Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rove used Powell as a doormat the whole time he was SoS. His endorsing Obama was a pretty feeble and pathetic attempt at comeuppance. If he had any courage, he would have exposed the Bush administration's lies about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, the Valerie Plame affair, and Iraq/Al Quaeda links. It's pretty obvious that Powell never believed in any of it, but did everything he could to be a "team player."

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-25   16:48:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Cynicom (#17)

political bashing of one person by MSM and BOTH parties.

If she had been a Dem, she'd would've been lionized.

Studying her record in Alaska, you get some idea of why many Repubs, from coastal chatterati to BigBiz types may be rather fearful of her.

After all, the last real nationalist populist in America, Teddy Roosevelt came from the right..

swarthyguy  posted on  2009-02-25   16:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#17) (Edited)

Paul lit a flame and bailed out on us, most people NEVER HEARD OF THE MAN.

EVERYONE breathing regularly has heard of Palin

As I said, more people have heard of Paris Hilton than Ron Paul. What does that prove?

It proves that the media blacked out Ron Paul, while gossiping about lightweights nonstop. Paris and Sarah are entertaining and fun to gossip about, Ron isn't. End of story.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-25   16:51:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#20)

Unfortunately for him, his picture in history will always be as the shill for the Iraq War, arrogantly and with complete certainty holding up that damn vial of salt or whatever, with Tenet and Negroponte seated behind him.

He can run, he can dodge, but he can't hide from that picture and that speech.

swarthyguy  posted on  2009-02-25   16:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: swarthyguy (#21)

Studying her record in Alaska, you get some idea of why many Repubs, from coastal chatterati to BigBiz types may be rather fearful of her.

Why? She said absolutely nothing on any substantial issue that couldn't just as easily have been said by Bush or Cheney.

I find it amazing that people here call Ron Paul a coward and a sell-out just for staying in the GOP and not running third party, while Sarah is some kind of heroine to them, in spite of the fact that she's 100% in agreement with the GOP agenda (as far as she even understands the questions, that is).

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-25   16:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: swarthyguy (#23) (Edited)

Unfortunately for him, his picture in history will always be as the shill for the Iraq War, arrogantly and with complete certainty holding up that damn vial of salt or whatever, with Tenet and Negroponte seated behind him.

With one sentence expressing his doubts, Powell could have stopped a war that everybody knows he did not want or agree with. The fact that he didn't makes him even worse than other members of the Bush administration, who probably believed their own bullshit.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-25   16:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#22)

As I said, more people have heard of Paris Hilton than Ron Paul. What does that prove? As I said, more people have heard of Paris Hilton than Ron Paul. What does that prove?

Rupert...

I do not know how Hilton got in here. Discussions on such tangents are of no interest.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-25   16:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#26) (Edited)

I do not know how Hilton got in here.

To show how lightweights provide fun fodder for the MSM. That doesn't mean any person of sound mind should take what they say seriously.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-25   16:59:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Turtle (#1)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-02-25   17:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#17)

beyond Alaska, i don't think Palin is a threat. she made it quite clear when first selected that she was fully onboard with the pro-party, IsraelFirst, pro- war, pro-amnesty agenda. i think the criticism and attention she gets has much to do with the fact that she's an attractive Republican outdoorsy woman.

christine  posted on  2009-02-25   17:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: christine (#29)

Much of the liberal media didn't like George W. Bush for his folksy, Texas rancher personality, and many of his supporters were sold on it.

Both the pro and anti-Palin articles are just a rehash of pro and anti-Bush articles from 8 years ago. People like or dislike them for their personalities instead of their stated positions on the issues. That's how far politics has sunk in America - it's all about personalities.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-25   17:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#27)

To show how lightweights provide fun fodder for the MSM. That doesn't mean any person of sound mind should take what they say seriously.

And what does that have to say concerning both political parties and MSM continuing to batter Palin????

We are not discussing fodder.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-25   17:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#31)

The liberal wing of the MSM didn't like Bush much either. Does that make him some kind of populist, nationalist hero?

The neocon wing of the MSM loves Palin just as they loved Bush. Makes me wonder why all the Palin defenders here didn't like Bush to begin with.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-25   17:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#29)

i think the criticism and attention she gets has much to do with the fact that she's an attractive Republican outdoorsy woman.

Uhhhhhh.

And we subscribe all of that to pubs and dems and MSM??????

All three are in agreement that Palin was a nothing, a nobody, in over her head, stupid etc etc. So why the interest and concern????

Do we see anything good or bad about the NAMELESS male pubs???? Why not????

I still want to know who and why Palin was brought out of nowhere???? Chance???

Not really.

We have four years to primaries and already the sheeple are being brainwashed.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-25   17:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#32)

Rupert...

You are straying from the path of the obvious.

First Palin comes from out of nowhere. A born loser by most peoples view and she did lose.

The race is over, Obama won. Zero interest on Biden and McKooK but endless MSM and political partisans wailing negative concerning Palin. Rather odd, everyone is negative about a non person?????

One has to wonder why.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-25   17:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#33) (Edited)

I still want to know who and why Palin was brought out of nowhere???? Chance???

That's no mystery at all. The neoconservatives needed to sell their agenda to people in a folksy, fake populist package, so when the boys from NRO and the Weekly Standard met her on one of their Alaska cruises, they had the perfect front.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/10/sarah_palin_overheated_conserv.html

Pa rticularly smitten with Palin were the Standard's William Kristol (who went on to be an early advocate for her as a V.P. candidate), and the Review's Dick Morris. But they were not the only ones by far:

And people fell for it. Palin said things that could have come straight from Karl Rove and Dick Cheney, but conservatives still thought she was great because she talked folksy about barracudas, soccer moms, and pitbulls.

All of the Palin fans were played by PNAC like a drum. Neoconservatives pulled the strings. First Sarah danced, then her supporters danced along.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-25   17:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#34)

Sorry, bad link

nymag.com/daily/intel/200...n_overheated_conserv.html

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-25   17:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#35)

That's no mystery at all. The neoconservatives needed to sell their agenda to people in a folksy, fake populist package, so when the boys from NRO and the Weekly Standard met her on one of their Alaska cruises, they had the perfect front.

Rupert...

Ever watch the shell and pea scam????

There aint no pea.

Take heart, the pubs are following lockstep as programmed, black leader, promoting a black rising star, on and on, sickening.

But we must all fear a stupid, white, female, nobody from nowhere Alaska????

Doesnt that sort of make you think a bit outside the programming?????

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-25   17:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#24)

For a time, the Obama campaign thought it could win Alaska’s electoral votes. But when Palin was nominated, party operatives snapped up Ben Stevens’ Valley Trash campaign in all but name only, projecting Palin’s private life and her small town conservatism onto her would-be Vice Presidency. Bloggers and journalists went to work on Alaska and Palin, defining it as out of the mainstream and Palin as a Far Right Religious Zealot. Palin was ridiculed as a country rube among rubes, a possible witch whose family might have flirted with incest. Her Alaska became Dog Patch, Wasilla, Lower Slobbovia. James Carville called her a Buchanan supporter (read, anti-Semite), twenty minutes after she was named, even as Mary Matalin, his loving wife, played the other side of the street with her publication of Obama Nation by James Corsi. As Matalin and Carville explain it, in their co-authored account of the 1992 Presidential campaign, it is not really about Palin, Alaska or even handing the state back to Exxon-Mobil: “All’s Fair Love, War and Running for President.” But when you are on the receiving end of this abuse, that’s hard to understand because it feels so personal.

It’s amazing how quickly Alaskan liberals bought into the new Palin story, dismissing the recent past as if it had never happened. If Palin had come to Juneau with an agenda crafted in her church basement, cultural lines would have been drawn and no attacks on the Big Oil hegemony would have occurred. And state Democrats, who may have looked down their noses at Valley Trash, just like Ben, were smart enough to keep their mouths shut and find common ground while old-line Republicans leaders looked over their shoulders for subpoenas flowing from their overly cozy relations with VECO, the oil service company. To the dismay of oil company executives, she formed a working coalition with Democrats who represent West Anchorage’s well- paid liberals among unionized public employees and the professions. These Alaska Democrats were not conversant with the tactics of national political spin machines. Still, after 2000, they bought the Ralph Nader-as-spoiler line, hook and sinker as spun from distant Washington, despite Nader’s founding of Alaska PIRG and his steadfast support of Alaska in its fight with natural resource giants. They really couldn’t be blamed. Until this year, the spin and slime and sophistication of national Presidential campaigns were as elusive in Alaska as sun at noon in late January.

http://www.counterpunch.org/conn10012008.html

Steve Conn lived in Alaska from 1972 until 2007. He is a retired professor, University of Alaska.

FWIW.

Up until now, the standards applied to Sarah Palin were hardly applied to any other prior candidate.

swarthyguy  posted on  2009-02-25   17:32:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#30)

yes, that's my take too.

christine  posted on  2009-02-25   17:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: lodwick (#9)

Agree - he looked like a failed used car salesman.

HEY!!!

I am a failed used car salesman and I look nothing like that turd. ;)

I'm much prettier and a much smoother talker.

Man, I hated that business...


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PSUSA  posted on  2009-02-25   17:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: swarthyguy. the thread (#38)

Up until now, the standards applied to Sarah Palin were hardly applied to any other prior candidate.

Guy-

I believe that anyone at this level has passed TelAviv's test, and it makes no difference who is selected.

As long as we dance to the jews' tune, we are screwed.

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Lod  posted on  2009-02-25   17:47:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: PSUSA (#40)

apologies up to any (and all of us) who've tried the car selling game bump

What a racket.

It is marginally better than the mortgage loan business.

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Lod  posted on  2009-02-25   17:50:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#25)

He didn't get to be appointed SoS by rocking the boat or in anticipation of that.

In fact, the opposite, as his career demonstrates, his forte was going along to get along.

In fact, his appointment as JCOS by Reagan angered many other generals who felt disgruntled that he had been plucked over other more senior generals.

swarthyguy  posted on  2009-02-25   17:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Brian S (#19)

Hannity is frantically huffing air

Rush is huffing OxyContin.

That's it in a NUTshell, emphasis deliberate.

The GOP leadership is made up of cable news and AM talk show hosts.

They are preaching to a dwindling choir and the choir can't even carry a tune.

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Sam Houston  posted on  2009-02-25   19:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#4)

You Palinbots are delusional if you think that she's anything besides a neocon puppet. She and Apu Jindal are in the same league.

Clearly, you have no idea what I meant..

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-02-26   0:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Cynicom (#37)

But we must all fear a stupid, white, female, nobody from nowhere Alaska????

Doesnt that sort of make you think a bit outside the programming?????

I understand where you are coming from..

Refinersfire  posted on  2009-02-26   0:32:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Refinersfire (#46)

It is most difficult for some good people to understand they are indeed "programmed".

I was in my 20s and had a "choice" before the primary...I was going to vote for Ike and I could do it on which ever ticket he chose.

That set off an alarm bell that there was only one party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was over 50 years ago and far too many people still do not comprehend, they still think along rigid party lines.

We were being conned and scammed and it worked. It was used to rid the government of Harry Truman in a polite manner. Run someone as a pub that Truman could not beat and he would be gone. Truman knew what was up and withdrew.

Harry knew the Jews well and Baruch a democrat, engineered the election of Ike as a pub.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-26   4:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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