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Title: Despite High Unemployment, Obama Puts Amnesty on the Agenda
Source: FAIR
URL Source: http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?pa ... urity=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1721#1
Published: Feb 23, 2009
Author: FAIR
Post Date: 2009-02-25 12:26:01 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 1828
Comments: 180

This week, as a guest on a Spanish language radio show, President Obama stated his continued support for giving amnesty to 12 million illegal immigrants, which would force Americans looking for a job to compete with amnestied aliens for work. (El Piolin Interview, February 18, 2009 and CBS4—South Florida).

During the radio interview, President Obama said: “We’re going to start by really trying to work on how to improve the current [immigration] system so that people who want to be naturalized, who want to become citizens . . . are able to do it; that it’s cheaper, that it’s faster, that they have an easier time in terms of sponsoring family members.” Following that, President Obama acknowledged what legal American workers already know intuitively—that amnesty is not in their best interest—but then endorsed amnesty anyway. President Obama said: “And then we’ve got to have comprehensive immigration reform. . . . Politically it’s going to be tough. It’s probably tougher now than it was, partly because of the fact that the economy has gotten worse.” (El Piolin).

According to the U.S. Department of Labor, over 11.6 million Americans are currently unemployed and the number of unemployed Americans has increased by 4.1 million over the past year. (Bureau of Labor Statistics, January 2009). Millions more have simply stopped looking for work. Just last month, 598,000 Americans lost their jobs. Particularly troubling among the unemployment data is the fact that certain minorities such as African-Americans are experiencing greater unemployment (12.6 percent) than the nation as a whole.

President Obama also said his staff was working on amnesty already, stating: “we’ve got some wonderful people on my White House staff who are working on this issue on an ongoing basis.” Earlier this week, open-borders advocates suggested that they expect that Congress will debate amnesty legislation in the fall of 2009. (NDN, February 20, 2009). Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s director of Hispanic media has confirmed the likely timing for debate as well. (O Jornal, January 30, 2009).

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#3. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#0)

Here's your f**king Amnesty and North American Union ya lying world socialist cs'ing Traitor.

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-25   12:46:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rotara (#3)

King of the threats and whines, how goes it. I am always interested in mature debate that is lively and respectful with agreement not being requisite.

Actually, I find your badgering and flaming trying to get everyone on this forum to be of your mindset to be socialistic. With is quite ironic considering what you say when you flic your litle Bic.

Take care, and let me know if you ever really want to debate or discuss anything in earnest.

You know, do the sort of activity that makes a real forum.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-25   18:37:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Ferret Mike, Rotara, Mikey the Weasel, christine, O'bots, dupes, fools, suckers, rubes, apologists, chronic liars, and other Obama supporters (#10)

Take care, and let me know if you ever really want to debate or discuss anything in earnest.

Why?

So, you can go run and hide again?

Every time I have engaged you in a serious debate and you were in serious danger of having to provide a rational response you have taken a powder. The reality is that you are not interested in rational thought or anything which challenges you to examine what you "think" and "emote".

The reality is that you have no interest in debate, or even rational thought. You have a a laundry list of cliches, snippets, and regurgitated dogma which you have absorbed from the various mind control programs which you regard as authoritative. Now go back and listen some more to Demokrassee Never, The Pacified Nutwork, etc., ...

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-26   15:46:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Original_Intent (#111)

"The reality is that you have no interest in debate, or even rational thought."

Probably true to some extent in this forum. In a less hate driven forum. I don't really feel to into racism and pointless scapegoating and hatreds.

I'll do a you to me/me to you search and see what sort of take I get on it after the fact. And if I see your criticism has a basis, I'll comment on it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-26   21:24:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Ferret Mike (#127)

hate driven forum? please give specific examples as to whom and what you are talking about.

christine  posted on  2009-02-27   0:19:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: christine (#133)

It's your forum and you know without my input how some people view some of the content people post here and the bad rap things like racial intolerence generally gets in society is deserved.

There are good people here and really good things posted, but if you really do want examples, I remember one instance recently when some really tasteless pictures didn't bother you or many others and many here as if you just don't understand how to be respectful and decent toward others.

It is only as big a deal as you want to make it really. This forum is going to be like it is despite anything I say, so I chose to overlook what I feel are really bad views that do hurt decent people who do not deserve it.

But I am not in the mood to want to war with anyone about it.

I do not like bigotry, and I see it here, and that is my opinion. I am not going to war with anyone over it, nor is it worth even disliking anyone in regards to their love of these pointless wedge issues pushed in forum.

What I don't like is the personal attacks and threats from some in here that never let up. And I backed off not because I am driven off, but because I am not into making this forum a source of stress and consternation for you.

You are a good person, and I don't see you as someone who hates others merely because of race or other wedge issues. Those that live for that sort of thing I am not into cage rattling contests with, unless I am being ganged up on and persistently attacked.

That is what I am not into and why I am fed up.

Turtle can spew his intolerance, people can needlessly worry about harmless people like gays and lesbians or whatever, just allow me the same grace to speak my mind and give my two cents worth without trying to play forum terminator to do some virtual ethnic cleansing of the forum.

You have worked hard to build this forum and I respect that and I am glad you are happy with this product. And if my disagreeing with how some build their little personal paradigms of reality cause you consternation and piss you off, just say so and I will just post elsewhere.

I like you and have no interest with doing battle with you. And you are the host here and have the right to have or not have anyone as part of your virtual community as you see fit.

Hope that answers your question.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-27   1:05:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Ferret Mike, christine (#134) (Edited)

people can needlessly worry about harmless people like gays and lesbians or whatever,

Wait a minute. Excuse me, Ferret Mike, but is that a snide reference to the fact that I posted analysis by multiple Canadian specialist-physicians, who researched a breadth of medical peer-reviewed journal publications, which demonstrated that the risk for gays engaging in pederasty/pedophilia male on young male sex was 10-20 times that of the general population of heterosexual males?

Are the conclusions of MD's with 8-10 years of post graduate education and training something that you believe constitutes "needless worry" about "harmless" people like gays and lesbians?

Isn't the safety and welfare of minor children a key responsibility of civilized society in general and of government in particular?

Are you implying that posting the analysis by professional physicians, which happens to be contra PC thinking grain, is a negative reflection on 4um? Should posters like myself pretend that this medical finding does not exist so that 4um can be kumbahya with the idea of adult male heterosexuals adopting young boys?

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-27   2:13:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: scrapper2 (#135)

Pedophelia is a crime where the adult preys on the young because they are not able to handle their peers in sexual and othe situations. Their's is a prey preditor situation.

It is not readonable nor realistic to blame heterosexuality or homosexuality for this inappropriate sexual behavior.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-27   13:42:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Ferret Mike (#141)

It is not readonable nor realistic to blame heterosexuality or homosexuality for this inappropriate sexual behavior.

Are you kidding me? Pederasty/pedophilia are not "blameable"???? Pederasty/pedophilia is not committed by ghosts. Those sexual acts are committed by adult gays and straights against children and teens. Furthermore, pederasty/pedophilia has a very high rate of recidivism regardless of "therapy" and attempts at "rehabilitation." IMO, pederasts/pedophiles should be jailed for life with no chance for parole. Our primary responsibility as a civilized society is to protect minors from harm. Convicted pedophiles/pederasts represent a life-long threat to minors.

Consider what happened in the American Catholic Church wherein over 80% of abuse cases involved adult male priests sexually preying on minor-aged male altar boys and parishioners. Do you have any idea about the sheer numbers of youths who had their innocence stolen from them? Here it is for you to ponder while you consider that this inappropriate sexual behavior is blame-free: 10,667.

That's a staggering # of minors abused and a comparatively small # of gay priests - 149 - accounted for 28% of the abuse - these 149 gay priests abused almost 3000 victims. And these predators are not "blame-able" in your mind?

"An overwhelming majority of the victims, 81 percent, were males. The most vulnerable were boys aged 11 to 14, representing more than 40 percent of the victims."

"Slightly more than 3 percent of the accused priests had 10 or more victims and these 149 priests accounted for abuse of 2,960 victims, representing almost 28 percent of the allegations."

www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0401118.htm

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-27   14:35:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#151. To: scrapper2 (#148)

You are still talking about pedophiles, not gays. I also do not condemn heterosexual status because little girls are victimized.

I also am not into banning families because so many pedophiles use family status to access young victims.

many pedophiles do not care what the gender of their victims. To them it only matters that those they prey on are young and accessible,

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-27 15:38:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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