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Title: Despite High Unemployment, Obama Puts Amnesty on the Agenda
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URL Source: http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?pa ... urity=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1721#1
Published: Feb 23, 2009
Author: FAIR
Post Date: 2009-02-25 12:26:01 by X-15
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Comments: 180
This week, as a guest on a Spanish language radio show, President Obama stated his continued support for giving amnesty to 12 million illegal immigrants, which would force Americans looking for a job to compete with amnestied aliens for work. (El Piolin Interview, February 18, 2009 and CBS4—South Florida). During the radio interview, President Obama said: “We’re going to start by really trying to work on how to improve the current [immigration] system so that people who want to be naturalized, who want to become citizens . . . are able to do it; that it’s cheaper, that it’s faster, that they have an easier time in terms of sponsoring family members.” Following that, President Obama acknowledged what legal American workers already know intuitively—that amnesty is not in their best interest—but then endorsed amnesty anyway. President Obama said: “And then we’ve got to have comprehensive immigration reform. . . . Politically it’s going to be tough. It’s probably tougher now than it was, partly because of the fact that the economy has gotten worse.” (El Piolin). According to the U.S. Department of Labor, over 11.6 million Americans are currently unemployed and the number of unemployed Americans has increased by 4.1 million over the past year. (Bureau of Labor Statistics, January 2009). Millions more have simply stopped looking for work. Just last month, 598,000 Americans lost their jobs. Particularly troubling among the unemployment data is the fact that certain minorities such as African-Americans are experiencing greater unemployment (12.6 percent) than the nation as a whole. President Obama also said his staff was working on amnesty already, stating: “we’ve got some wonderful people on my White House staff who are working on this issue on an ongoing basis.” Earlier this week, open-borders advocates suggested that they expect that Congress will debate amnesty legislation in the fall of 2009. (NDN, February 20, 2009). Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s director of Hispanic media has confirmed the likely timing for debate as well. (O Jornal, January 30, 2009).
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#71. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#68)
Maybe you are too stupid to know and too brainwashed to care. The puppets will run away when the puppet masters of the illegal shadow government are stopped. You sure love your Marxist front puppet you fucking world socialist Traitor.
Fairy Mike is a trouble maker that is trying to manufacture that "comment". I see his behavior as a threat to the peaceful participation most of us have here even when we don't agree. When I saw his "presidential threat comment" it made me think that he's trying to manufacture a threat that never existed. You were right to demand that he provide the threat remark.
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. General Smedley Butler
That pig does it on every forum he infests.
General Smedley Butler Great tag btw
As they did in the 18th and 19th centuries?
Had the War Between the States been won by the Confederates, the Confederates would have merged with Maximilian's Mexico. That has no relation to the Executive branch and it's bureaucrats lying to accomplish the same with no oversight in Constitutional America. Do you world socialist Traitors even have a clue what you're talking about ??
from The Declaration of Independence~ We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
Those boys had a way with words !
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. General Smedley Butler
The peaceful discourse was ended when Rotara started posting threats, very detailed and graphic ones to me. One does not talk of killing all who disagree without feeling the same in regards to those in leadership positions those he wishes dead support. I would not post my understanding of the full inference of Rotara if I was contacting any agency like the FBI or Secret Service. And I am not the least bit intimidated by Rotara. But if I die violently, he has unsured he will be sought and talked to to see if he turned his words to actions.
Where will you be when they come for my gold ? Where will you be when they merge Mexico and Canada and US together and foreigners along with your brother ameriKans patrol our streets ? Where will you be when they come for the patriots' children ? Where will you be when the nation is governed by a world body ? Because I know you all too well, you can't claim ignorance or stupidity. You are a LIAR and one of THEM. You f**king Traitor. [crickets]
The Tree of Liberty Must Be Refreshed A revolution in America — no matter how you choose to define or characterize it — is still an American Revolution “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” — Thomas Jefferson What happens when the threat to American government comes from within? There is the subtle and invisible war that is taking place at home. This War is between Americans with different understandings of what it means to be “American” and what it means to be “Free”. This war will NOT take place in the trenches and won’t be won with guns or knives. This revolutionary war is taking place among America’s elite over control of our nation’s future. What better way to spearhead the revolution than the advancement of technology? The revolutionary charge from libertarians and anti- war liberals has already started to make members of the establishment a bit nervous. Radicals want change and there will be no compromise on one key idea: Defending liberty at home is essential to fighting the “war on terror” ™ and necessary to restore our Constitution as the supreme law of the land. David hunting down Goliath Can the principle, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” apply to this kind of war? Can Democrats, Independents, and Libertarians band together to bring about this change? Will the change sought shake up Washington and restore American faith in Democracy? Americans sense the the threat to freedom that has come from within. If you haven’t noticed, Libertarians have come out of the woodworks and have amassed a viable force to counter the threat of “super patriotism”. The force is especially noticeable with the rise of Ron Paul, a Texas libertarian that will no doubt impact the outcome of the Republican primary. His band of revolutionaries will likely help decide the 2008 election no matter how Ron Paul fares in the primary. Defending the Constitution vs. “Securing” our Nation Were the founding fathers revolutionaries or “terrorists?” The founders of the U.S. Constitution were most definitely terrorists as per today’s definition of the word. When we recall their patriotic actions, we remember them as revolutionaries, visionaries, and widely regard them as American heroes. Our founder had dreams of an America free of tyranny and corruption. They desired a limited government that would keep order, promote freedom and stay out of people’s affairs. Without the aid of civil libertarians that kept our nation honest and true to our founding principles over the years, the dream our founders had may soon end if Americans aren’t careful. Home-grown Terrorism Legislation is now in sharp focus As I mentioned above, the founders were a special breed of “terrorist”. They stood bravely against a State ready to hang them for not bowing before an unjust king. His majesty, King George III of England, was in for a great surprise! Over two hundred years later, our nation remains strong but liberty is no longer the hallmark of American Democracy. In fact, the issue of protecting Liberty has become a controversial topic now. Our Senators in Congress should be quick to stand up for the cause of Liberty. Instead, the foundation of our nation is cracking and Senators are sitting down when they should be fighting for our rights. If there were ever a litmus test for serving as a public official, protecting essential liberty and defending the Constitution should be it. --snip--
That is pure assumption on your part. Thinking that a threat against you has even the slightest relationship to someone in leadership is preposterous.
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. General Smedley Butler
Your direct affront to King Obamalamadingdong and his court of jesters will not go unnoticed. :Kool Aid:
Great quote from a great document printed on hemp paper. So you are saying that all those Rotara hates should die then? And you are saying anyone he does not agree with should be shut up? Perhaps something should be neutralized, but it is not the U.S. government. It is the fascist notions the rotaras here stand for and organize to advance that is the problem, not the government. It is flawed and needs change, but the using of a chainsaw to do surgery is insanity, and that is what is involved here when you look at this William Quantrill-like blood talk.
LOL And if the SS knocks on my door, all bets are off bitch.
Please point out exactly who is "The U.S. government" and what 'thing' that should 'perhaps' be neutralized. Can you identify "The U.S. government" or those "things to perhaps be neutralized" ? BTW, have you gotten your Million Civilian Osnight Corps assignment yet ?
Where will you be when they come for my gold ? Where will you be when they merge Mexico and Canada and US together and foreigners along with your brother ameriKans patrol our streets ? Where will you be when they come for the patriots' children ? Where will you be when the nation is governed by a world body ? Because I know you all too well, you can't claim ignorance or stupidity. You are a LIAR and one of THEM. You f**king Traitor. [2nd generation crickets]
Rotara talks about the critical need not to discuss or dialog and to kill many many people. Nobody that wants to kill a body talks of cutting off the body to kill, the objective aimed at is always the head, where the brain is. All he talks about is shedding blood this and shedding blood that, with himself rhetorically placed on a pedestal by himself as the sole vehicle of truth in this country. He is blood thirsty, abusive and delutional. And there is no doubt in my own mind that he would shoot Barack Obama if the oppertunity presented itself. If he wants to extrapolate who and what should die and why, there is no reason to begrudge his thought process being revealed in it's fullest measure. He talks blood spilling, and I am hardly the real target. I am just someone he tries to use to advance his agenda of death, hatred and fascist beliefs.
How did you survive life thus far ? Talk about mysteries. Why don't you start answering questions Mr. Thoughtful Debater ? You're so full of shit - you've been exposed and tagged. Nothing will change it.
And you got my answer the very first time you posted a picture of a laser sight equiped rifle pointed at the camera and graphic threats given to try to intimidate and shut me up. Face it, I am just not even remotely frightened by you. You are the p[roblem, not me. As far as Goldi's forum goes, Corn Flake Girl, a nick chosen because of the relationship of the returning bannee account to what the metaphor that character in Tori Amos' song by that title got cut aws expected when I made it clear to Goldi I was the one she banned to stop me from supporting an amnesty for illegal immigrants. I believe a draconian and brutal crystal night type solution to the problem is not an answer, and I do support an amnesty that is fair and flexible; not a free pass into this country. Goldi has verbiage in her welcome page celebrating her alleged support of free speech, yet she will not allow it to exist over there. 4UM is supposed to be a place where free speech is upheld and allowed to flurish. But for the most part, it has turn ed into a Rotara based 'my way or the body bag' site. And you cannot tell me that his blood shedding talk only applies to people who support or like our new POTUS in any way. He obviously nwould treat Washington,D.C. like WIlliam Quantrill treated Lawrence, KA when he and his fellow terrorists killed man and small boys of all ages and condition in cold blood merely for living there.
what i quoted is the Founders words, not mine. Revolution has and may be violent and bloody and, yes, people die. that's the reality. i am in no way saying that i think they should die by quoting the Declaration of Independence. what we have is a government that is no longer for, by and of the people. i'm sorry that you don't see this. And you are saying anyone he does not agree with should be shut up? i'm saying no such thing. you and everyone he disagrees with are having their say. i'm not censoring or shutting anyone up. see my free speech policy here: 2006-08-18 My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control. Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. Let me remind you that these are rules for this forum and, as such, do not necessarily apply off of this forum, as public laws should, in most cases, be even less restrictive than private property rules and regulations. Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the two contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another. We will not censor speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights. Afterall, the framers of the Constitution believed that free speech was the most fundamental right to be protected which was the reason that they placed it FIRST in the Bill of Rights.
There you go again, always trying to intimidate and always talking blood shedding. Nothing about what I do when I post in forum has changed over the years since I first posted at the Well and Time.Com/Politics has changed, except that I am older and better at winning a point of order as I have done here. It is you who hates open dialog, it is you who hates free speech and an open democratic political process. And you cannot kill anything I believe in or stand form and you cannot make me operate in a defensive mode as you have tried continually to do, and this bothers you greatly, as you are a control freak. You exude a desire to control and glorify violent intent and action to inforce this sense of a desire to control in every word you post. It is you who will ultimately be a meal by trying to ride the tiger that is hate and intolerence, not me. That is your problem, and it is yourself you, your inner blood thirsty soul you are in conflict with here, not me.
When the mob (democratic majority) finds it reasonable to impose their brand of justice upon those opposed in order to finance it ... there will be bloodshed and in truth the minority are acting in self defense. Yours is an agenda similar to Robin Hood stealing from the haves to give it to the have nots, after a healthy distribution to self. Those opposed to your socialism are only being considered because they can pay for it. If you want to redistribute my wealth (which is minimal) you better be armed because I ain't volunteering.
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. General Smedley Butler
The strong intent and goal of this foolish man or woman in the Rotara account is to shut up people like myself, or to use them as a straw man as best they can to further their fascist agenda. I have bent over backwards trying to dialog and engage in lively discussion and even debate, and I get slandered, threatened and bullied with no quarter given. I am insinuated to be homosexual because I do not discriminate against them, and hated because I am not racist, I have been continually been belittled and threatened, and any attempt I make to engage in free speech is met by tactics to prevent anything of the sort from happening. I did not start this, Rotara did. I am not talking bloodshed and supporting a rebirth of the sort of terrorism William Quantrill created and carried out, he is. I can only say he still has his work cut out for him, because if I was indeed intimidatable, I never would of become a well known local activist, or used my real name online in these forums. As I just said, anyone can die and everyone eventually will, but the ideas he hates are bullet proof. Ande deep inside he knows this, which no doubt helps fuel his meglomania and inner rage.
_________________________________________________________________________ Mike, your beef is with Rotara. it's not the forum. it's your choice whether or not you want to continue to engage him. there are many others here whose style and personality you may prefer with whom you can dialogue.
Gee...really? Your world has a different historical timeline than mine?
man this is a perfect example of the exagerated bullshit claims you make. I am married to a Mexican woman, use my real name and have great friends on this site, including rotara. I never encountered racism here at all. Maybe you're overly sensitive or something? As far as the opinion issue, people can be for free speech without agreeing or 'tolerating' with your opinions Tolerance: to endure without repugnance http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tolerate If your political or religious ideas are repugnant to a poster why does that bother you?? defend and argue your points. Why whine about it? I don't give a sh!t who doesn't 'like' my opinions! Why do you? And frankly, as an observer, I find it amusing how you, as a poster seem to be able to get so people so riled up and push their buttons. They try to convince you of their points and ping you to obama's bad policies. So in that regard aren't your very goals of being here being met? I don't have any hard feelings against you, we discussed your fracture in the past when I had a similar accideent. If you were my friend I'd simply implore, "how could you support a degenerate abortionist who supports infanticide, a gun-grabber socialist new world order puppet??". As far as you threatening to call the SS secret service on posters here or imply there are 'threats', that is just pinko bullshit and is a real shame. it seems you want to use "government power" to silence varied political expression. And that is a real shame, you should have more respect for the 4um owner than that.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. Mike if I might. Firstly, from an olde friend that disagrees with you most of the time, dont take things such as the forum to heart. Secondly, people act and react intemperately in many different ways, it's human nature. Politics and religion stir human emotions into a fervor sometimes, this calls everyone to back off from the heat of the moment and not add fuel to the fire. My two cents, for free.
Oh, we are going to have to live within our means, whether we have a stimulus and son of stimulus or not. Obama and Congress are going to have to be made to do so even if they are going to have to be given unendurable public pressure to do so. I loved Ron Paul's recent video about living within our means, and I like Obama's desire to cut the deficit in half. I worry more in fact that Congress is not into ending their spendthrift ways and I was pissed by this recent business as usual standard spending bill they passed in the aftermath of the stimulus. I am even willing to put my money where my mouth is and sacrifice social security retirement toward this goal. What Ron Paul says about printing money and treating debt like capital is not only good sense, it is the damn truth. My support for Obama only goes as far as his supporting the truth and understanding and working for a better future for our kids goes. No doubt Ron Paul would be a much better man for our time then Obama, but he is not the diabolocal criminal I see painted and dehumanized in here and at FR. He is a smart, talented man who supports much the same thing as Ron Paul, and who is accountable if he fails or errs in what he does. He is the one who ultimately survived the process of this last election, and I do not agree his election is proof positive that Thomas Jefferson's words about the need for violent revolution's time is here to be implimented. I got worse then this Rotara Rooter treatment as a forest activist by Earth Liberation sorts locally who took extreme exception to my support of non- violent means to try to deal with logging without laws. I have heard worse from people who were obviously dangerous live and in the flesh, and this interestingly enough helped temper and harden my being to the point Rot's words don't really do more then annoy. Hey, If I die because of my strongly held beliefs, so be it. I prefer that to the thousand deaths of a coward who allowed others to shut him up and not say or support what he trully believes in.
Great two cents Cyni, appreciated, thanks.
"Immigration reform" has become the new euphemism for amnesty. When McCain and Kennedy tried to push amnesty through Congress, they also called it "immigration reform."
He is a smart, talented man who supports much the same thing as Ron Paul, and who is accountable if he fails or errs in what he does. Obama and Ron Paul support the same things? That would be news not only to me, but to both Obama and Paul. Obama and Ron Paul are about as far apart politically as it's possible to be. In fact, they probably disgree on just about every issue. RP opposed the bailouts and stimulus package. BHO helped push them through. RP wants to withdraw our troops from Afghanistan. BHO wants to deepen our engagements in Afghanistan. RP opposes foreign aid. BHO is all in favor of it. RP opposes amnesty for illegal immigrants. BHO favors it. RP supports sound currency, Obama wants the status quo of a fiat, print-as-you go system. I could continue, but I think I've made my point. I can't understand how anybody who agrees with Ron Paul on the core issues could be an Obama supporter. But, to be fair, I couldn't understand how other RP voters became McCain supporters either. For all the hype about Democrats vs. Republicans, Obama and McCain had a lot more in common with one another than with Ron Paul or with any libertarian or "old right" conservative. Incidentally, the last point is the main reason that I don't get all hysterical about Obama like some on this site do. He's certainly not much worse (or any better) than Clinton or Bush were, or McCain would have been.
Don't be silly. The founders of the constitution had duels. You wanna have one? ;(
Sort of like...we have only ONE party...ONE ideology?????
Geez, Ferret ... you hearing and seeing the same thing as I am?
Technically, two parties, one ideology. That works better than one party and one ideology, because it creates the illusion of "choice" every 4 years.
Notice that NOBODY in either party will mention the word "quota", much less say "that country is cut off for a few decades" as needs to be done with mexico.
_________________________________________________________________________ Doesn't it seem as though there are two issues that are a litmus test for legitimacy in US politics? The first is support for amnesty for illegal aliens, the second is being pro- Israel. If you dissent on either of these issues, you can pretty much say goodbye to a shot to high office. Politicos learn this fast: for example, Jim Webb started out as anti-amnesty and in favor of immigration restrictions. After a couple of years in the Senate, he learned to toe the party line.
...and Sarah Palin. She had to parrot those two lines-of-thought. I don't think it was really her ideology considering her involvement in the Alaskan independence movement. Those two issues seem, to me, to be incongruent with any state independence movement. We'll never know unless one of us can corner her and badger the truth out of her.
_________________________________________________________________________ Why? So, you can go run and hide again? Every time I have engaged you in a serious debate and you were in serious danger of having to provide a rational response you have taken a powder. The reality is that you are not interested in rational thought or anything which challenges you to examine what you "think" and "emote". The reality is that you have no interest in debate, or even rational thought. You have a a laundry list of cliches, snippets, and regurgitated dogma which you have absorbed from the various mind control programs which you regard as authoritative. Now go back and listen some more to Demokrassee Never, The Pacified Nutwork, etc., ...
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestHe would never dare directly threaten, but he can advance his agenda to see the government overthrown and to see Obama removed from office by any means necessary by trying to use me as a surrogate vehicle to advance his agenda, and it is obvious this is what he is up to.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#72. To: Jethro Tull (#69)
Your feelings and personal thoughts aside, all I want to know is if you saw or read a threat that would require immediate action on the part of the forum owner. I think I read your answer to be no, right? If OTOH, a comment was missed please ID it now. Thanks.
#73. To: noone222 (#72)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#74. To: noone222 (#72)
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#75. To: Rotara (#71)
Where will you be when they merge Mexico and Canada and US together
#76. To: war (#75)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#77. To: Ferret Mike (#68)
but they sure can try to create the climate for insurrection and violent overthrow of the government
#78. To: christine (#77)
That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
#79. To: noone222 (#72)
#80. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#67)
Oh great defender of freedom; where will you be when they come for my guns ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#81. To: All (#77)
#82. To: Ferret Mike (#79)
One does not talk of killing all who disagree without feeling the same in regards to those in leadership positions those he wishes dead support.
#83. To: christine (#81)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#84. To: christine (#77)
#85. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#79)
But if I die violently, he has unsured he will be sought and talked to to see if he turned his words to actions.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#86. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#84)
(Edited)
Perhaps something should be neutralized, but it is not the U.S. government.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#87. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#80)
Oh great defender of freedom; where will you be when they come for my guns ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#88. To: noone222 (#82)
#89. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#88)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#90. To: Rotara (#85)
"And if the SS knocks on my door, all bets are off bitch."
#91. To: Ferret Mike (#84)
So you are saying that all those Rotara hates should die then?
#92. To: Rotara (#89)
#93. To: Ferret Mike (#88)
I am just someone he tries to use to advance his agenda of death, hatred and fascist beliefs.
#94. To: christine (#91)
#95. To: christine (#91)
We will not censor speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights. Afterall, the framers of the Constitution believed that free speech was the most fundamental right to be protected which was the reason that they placed it FIRST in the Bill of Rights.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#96. To: Ferret Mike (#94)
#97. To: Rotara (#76)
Had the War Between the States been won by the Confederates, the Confederates would have merged with Maximilian's Mexico.
#98. To: Ferret Mike (#94)
and hated because I am not racist
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#99. To: Ferret Mike (#94)
#100. To: noone222 (#93)
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#101. To: Cynicom (#99)
#102. To: X-15 (#0)
“And then we’ve got to have comprehensive immigration reform
#103. To: Ferret Mike (#100)
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No doubt Ron Paul would be a much better man for our time then Obama, but he is not the diabolocal criminal I see painted and dehumanized in here and at FR.
#104. To: Ferret Mike (#38)
#105. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#103)
He's certainly no worse (or no better) than Clinton or Bush were, or McCain would have been.
#106. To: Ferret Mike (#100)
He is a smart, talented man who supports much the same thing as Ron Paul, and who is accountable if he fails or errs in what he does.
#107. To: Cynicom (#105)
Sort of like...we have only ONE party...ONE ideology
#108. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#102)
President Obama said: “We’re going to start by really trying to work on how to improve the current [immigration] system so that people who want to be naturalized, who want to become citizens . . . are able to do it
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#109. To: X-15 (#108)
#110. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#109)
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#111. To: Ferret Mike, Rotara, Mikey the Weasel, christine, O'bots, dupes, fools, suckers, rubes, apologists, chronic liars, and other Obama supporters (#10)
Take care, and let me know if you ever really want to debate or discuss anything in earnest.
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