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Title: Despite High Unemployment, Obama Puts Amnesty on the Agenda
Source: FAIR
URL Source: http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?pa ... urity=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1721#1
Published: Feb 23, 2009
Author: FAIR
Post Date: 2009-02-25 12:26:01 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 2098
Comments: 180

This week, as a guest on a Spanish language radio show, President Obama stated his continued support for giving amnesty to 12 million illegal immigrants, which would force Americans looking for a job to compete with amnestied aliens for work. (El Piolin Interview, February 18, 2009 and CBS4—South Florida).

During the radio interview, President Obama said: “We’re going to start by really trying to work on how to improve the current [immigration] system so that people who want to be naturalized, who want to become citizens . . . are able to do it; that it’s cheaper, that it’s faster, that they have an easier time in terms of sponsoring family members.” Following that, President Obama acknowledged what legal American workers already know intuitively—that amnesty is not in their best interest—but then endorsed amnesty anyway. President Obama said: “And then we’ve got to have comprehensive immigration reform. . . . Politically it’s going to be tough. It’s probably tougher now than it was, partly because of the fact that the economy has gotten worse.” (El Piolin).

According to the U.S. Department of Labor, over 11.6 million Americans are currently unemployed and the number of unemployed Americans has increased by 4.1 million over the past year. (Bureau of Labor Statistics, January 2009). Millions more have simply stopped looking for work. Just last month, 598,000 Americans lost their jobs. Particularly troubling among the unemployment data is the fact that certain minorities such as African-Americans are experiencing greater unemployment (12.6 percent) than the nation as a whole.

President Obama also said his staff was working on amnesty already, stating: “we’ve got some wonderful people on my White House staff who are working on this issue on an ongoing basis.” Earlier this week, open-borders advocates suggested that they expect that Congress will debate amnesty legislation in the fall of 2009. (NDN, February 20, 2009). Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s director of Hispanic media has confirmed the likely timing for debate as well. (O Jornal, January 30, 2009).

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#3. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#0)

Here's your f**king Amnesty and North American Union ya lying world socialist cs'ing Traitor.

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-25   12:46:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rotara (#3)

King of the threats and whines, how goes it. I am always interested in mature debate that is lively and respectful with agreement not being requisite.

Actually, I find your badgering and flaming trying to get everyone on this forum to be of your mindset to be socialistic. With is quite ironic considering what you say when you flic your litle Bic.

Take care, and let me know if you ever really want to debate or discuss anything in earnest.

You know, do the sort of activity that makes a real forum.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-25   18:37:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: ferret mike (#10)

You're a fuckstick Traitor and I shall piss on your grave. For starters.

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-25   22:28:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rotara, christine (#12)

You have been talked to about your death threats. Merely omitting how and where you intend to definately seee me dead and saying you will piss on my grave when it definately happens does not make it not a death threast.

So you are saying this is not a free speech forum? That if someonee gives opinion and they have the audacity to disagree with you they will die?

You are a twisted fuck head. I serve you notice I am not intimidated by you, and it is you who have the severe problem with criminality, not me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-26   10:13:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret Mike (#21)

Why is your pigger president spending my kids future away?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-26   10:16:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Old Friend (#22)

Sorry, but Bush, the one you speak of is not my man. Also, he is now out of office, and grown-ups are now trying to repair the damage.

Seems you are very confused.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-26   10:30:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ferret Mike (#27)

Sorry, but Bush, the one you speak of is not my man. Also, he is now out of office, and grown-ups are now trying to repair the damage.

Exactly which "grown-ups" are "trying to repair the damage."?? The ones who are threatening to kill us by confiscating our arms and ammunition to leave us unarmed against Obummers' Final Solution?? The people who voted for Obummer are the juden-rats of the 21st century. Obummer has leaped past Clinton, Bush, Carter, LBJ, FDR, Lincoln, and Wilson to attain the title of Worst President In History. All in less than two months into his so-called "administration".

X-15  posted on  2009-02-26   11:12:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: X-15 (#51)

I do not concur. I do not agree with everything the Democrats are doing and belong to the Pacific Green Party because I do not.

What I see here is people too afraid to dialog and discuss what you post about.

I am merely being used here as a vehicle to talk about a desire to assassinate the president. That much is plainly obvious. Being coy about it and dancing on the edge of the razor blade of discussing revolution and violent over throw of the government is not free speech and open dialog.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-26   11:22:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Ferret Mike (#58)

I am merely being used here as a vehicle to talk about a desire to assassinate the president.

Mike, offer immediate proof.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-02-26   11:28:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Jethro Tull (#65) (Edited)

Nobody here dare directly threaten Barack Obama, but they sure can try to create the climate for insurrection and violent overthrow of the government by using me, an open with my ID poster as a surrogate to express and reinforce their blood talk in a way they feel it will galvanize others to act.

The proof that Rotara and others do not want to talk, and prefer a William Quantrill sort of answer to end political freedom and free speech is all over Rotara's posts.

He would never dare directly threaten, but he can advance his agenda to see the government overthrown and to see Obama removed from office by any means necessary by trying to use me as a surrogate vehicle to advance his agenda, and it is obvious this is what he is up to.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-26   11:37:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Ferret Mike (#68)

but they sure can try to create the climate for insurrection and violent overthrow of the government

from The Declaration of Independence~

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

christine  posted on  2009-02-26   12:23:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: christine (#77)

Great quote from a great document printed on hemp paper.

So you are saying that all those Rotara hates should die then? And you are saying anyone he does not agree with should be shut up?

Perhaps something should be neutralized, but it is not the U.S. government. It is the fascist notions the rotaras here stand for and organize to advance that is the problem, not the government.

It is flawed and needs change, but the using of a chainsaw to do surgery is insanity, and that is what is involved here when you look at this William Quantrill-like blood talk.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-26   12:37:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Ferret Mike (#84)

So you are saying that all those Rotara hates should die then?

what i quoted is the Founders words, not mine. Revolution has and may be violent and bloody and, yes, people die. that's the reality. i am in no way saying that i think they should die by quoting the Declaration of Independence. what we have is a government that is no longer for, by and of the people. i'm sorry that you don't see this.

And you are saying anyone he does not agree with should be shut up?

i'm saying no such thing. you and everyone he disagrees with are having their say. i'm not censoring or shutting anyone up. see my free speech policy here:

2006-08-18

My free speech means that I have 100% control over what I say and everyone else has 0% control over what I say. Now, I understand that there are consequences to exercising my right to free speech, but I still retain 100% control.

Free speech means that I have a right to express or spew thoughts and words of preference, love, hate, or anything with which another may disagree. That said, the rules or policies of this forum, which is my private property (see this forum's Mission Statement), are that members can exercise free speech as long as they (1) do not make a specific threat against an identifiable person or target, (2) earnestly debate or discuss the relevant issues that are part and parcel of this forum's reason-to-be. Let me remind you that these are rules for this forum and, as such, do not necessarily apply off of this forum, as public laws should, in most cases, be even less restrictive than private property rules and regulations.

Again, free speech on this forum means that people can express their love or hatred for anyone, any group, any race, any culture, or any thing, as long as they adhere to the two contingencies listed above. Everyone else on this forum is similarly at liberty to exercise their free speech right to challenge, debate, argue, or agree with the ideas and speech of another.

We will not censor speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights. Afterall, the framers of the Constitution believed that free speech was the most fundamental right to be protected which was the reason that they placed it FIRST in the Bill of Rights.

christine  posted on  2009-02-26   13:01:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: christine (#91)

We will not censor speech as we abhor political correctness and authoritarianism as well as those thought-control and speech-control tyrants who would restrict another's speech. Any limitation on thought and speech constitutes the first level of the destruction of all remaining rights. Afterall, the framers of the Constitution believed that free speech was the most fundamental right to be protected which was the reason that they placed it FIRST in the Bill of Rights.

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