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Title: Despite High Unemployment, Obama Puts Amnesty on the Agenda
Source: FAIR
URL Source: http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?pa ... urity=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1721#1
Published: Feb 23, 2009
Author: FAIR
Post Date: 2009-02-25 12:26:01 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 2170
Comments: 180

This week, as a guest on a Spanish language radio show, President Obama stated his continued support for giving amnesty to 12 million illegal immigrants, which would force Americans looking for a job to compete with amnestied aliens for work. (El Piolin Interview, February 18, 2009 and CBS4—South Florida).

During the radio interview, President Obama said: “We’re going to start by really trying to work on how to improve the current [immigration] system so that people who want to be naturalized, who want to become citizens . . . are able to do it; that it’s cheaper, that it’s faster, that they have an easier time in terms of sponsoring family members.” Following that, President Obama acknowledged what legal American workers already know intuitively—that amnesty is not in their best interest—but then endorsed amnesty anyway. President Obama said: “And then we’ve got to have comprehensive immigration reform. . . . Politically it’s going to be tough. It’s probably tougher now than it was, partly because of the fact that the economy has gotten worse.” (El Piolin).

According to the U.S. Department of Labor, over 11.6 million Americans are currently unemployed and the number of unemployed Americans has increased by 4.1 million over the past year. (Bureau of Labor Statistics, January 2009). Millions more have simply stopped looking for work. Just last month, 598,000 Americans lost their jobs. Particularly troubling among the unemployment data is the fact that certain minorities such as African-Americans are experiencing greater unemployment (12.6 percent) than the nation as a whole.

President Obama also said his staff was working on amnesty already, stating: “we’ve got some wonderful people on my White House staff who are working on this issue on an ongoing basis.” Earlier this week, open-borders advocates suggested that they expect that Congress will debate amnesty legislation in the fall of 2009. (NDN, February 20, 2009). Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s director of Hispanic media has confirmed the likely timing for debate as well. (O Jornal, January 30, 2009).

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#113. To: Old Friend (#104)

Sure, but only Avatar to Avatar in EntropiaUniverse.com/Planet Calypso/ in a Player v. player zone situation.

I will even take you on using an unskilled up avatar as not to have an advantage other then my long experience with the game.

As for a real one, I'm afraid the legal system views them far differently then they used to. Besides, I don't hate anyone in this forum. And even if I did, there are better ways to take care of differences then with gratuitous violence.

I didn't even come in now to eyeball to eyeball until being assured my right to free speech would be respected and after discussion with others.

I prefer to handle bad situations forces on me rather then to start them. And a duel involves owning part of the karma of starting it.

It also does not work as a solution when the players do not understand chivalry well.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-26   16:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Ferret Mike, Old Friend, Rotara, Mikey the Weasel, O'bots, dupes, fools, suckers, rubes, apologists, chronic liars, and other Obama supporters (#27)

Sorry, but Bush, the one you speak of is not my man. Also, he is now out of office, and grown-ups are now trying to repair the damage.

Seems you are very confused.

The only difference between O'bam bam and Bush is, uh, errr, ah, O'bam bam is trying bugger us faster.

Bush: War Agenda in the Middle East

O'bam bam: War Agenda in the Middle East

Bush: Mal-administration staffed with CFR/Trilateral/Skull and Bones.

O'bam bam: Mal-dministration staffed with CFR/Trilateral/Skull and Bones.

I could go on but the only differences between Duhbya and O'bam bam is that O'bam bam's smile is somewhat less Satanic. Also he is a bit brighter, but still requires a teleprompter to keep from sounding like an idiot.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-26   16:01:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Original_Intent, ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy, corn flake gurl (#111)

Take care, and let me know if you ever really want to debate or discuss anything in earnest.

Why?

So, you can go run and hide again?

Exactly. Shit for brains (mike mkKarthy) can't defend the indefensible - his lying B.S. (cognitive dissonance) is a short and bumpy dead end walk. Of course that's if you believe he holds two counter views in his pea brain at one time. I hold to him knowing EXACTLY what he's doing - that f**king Traitor-whore.

mike mkKarthy = The Enemy Within


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-26   16:48:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Original_Intent (#114) (Edited)

The only difference between O'bam bam and Bush is, uh, errr, ah, O'bam bam is trying bugger us faster.

If it were jorge arbusto and not the Magic Marxist Negro world socialist Obamalamadingdong, shit for brains would be up in arms.

He's a deceiver, period. Now he has a green light to run his true colors up the flag pole. ALL of THEM will be held to account.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-26   16:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Original_Intent (#114)

The only difference between O'bam bam and Bush is, uh, errr, ah, O'bam bam is trying bugger us faster.

LOL! Well said, OI!

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-26   17:02:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Ferret Mike (#113)

Halo online. Go get you a 360.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-02-26   17:46:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Rotara, Ferret Mike (#116)

If it were jorge arbusto and not the Magic Marxist Negro world socialist Obamalamadingdong, shit for brains would be up in arms.

Virtually certain. Fair-rut Mikey is busy trying to convince everyone that he is as big a fool as he appears to be.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-26   18:07:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: scrapper2 (#117)

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-26   18:09:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Original_Intent (#119)

Ain't amurrrriKa beautiful ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-26   18:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Rotara (#121)

Come one come all, run the these white honkey trash off and take over.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-02-26   18:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Cynicom (#122)

Come one come all, run the these white honkey trash off and take over.

I grew up close to the tracks, on the up side.

All my best friends lived on the OTHER side of said tracks.

They were honest, funny, hard working, had yer back and they'd do anything for you.

And I for them.

A lot of them were blacks and we all hung tight. Nothing came between us, not even different High Schools or nothin'.

Something went wrong in amurrrrriKa and it's never been the same.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-26   18:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Ferret Mike, ALL (#27) (Edited)

Sorry, but Bush, the one you speak of is not my man. Also, he is now out of office, and grown-ups are now trying to repair the damage.

That one was not my man either, but if you believe the last part of your statement, you are seriously deluded my friend. The fact that you think "These are grownups and are going to try to make it right" (as opposed to bringing what is left all crashing down) is the silliest thing I've ever heard...wait..no I've heard it before...from every leftist (Statist) totalitarian believer in the megalith of TheStateInc. Your voice can be heard daily as the MSM has orgasmic spews of lovelust for the new messiah and his 535 (minus about 10 perhaps) "assitants" in Congress.

Your messiah wants to give amnesty to 20 million illegal aliens so they can compete for jobs with MY CHILDREN and everyone else who is out of work...in a Depression no less.
Your messiah and his assistants want to make slaves out of my children forcing them into government servitude in the form of slave labor and/or a draft.
Your messiah and his assistants wants to remove guns and ammo from our hands and even tag the ammo.

I could go on forever in this continued gang rape of Lady Liberty that you think is so peechy keen. Please review the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence that you were told you fought for. Please note which political parties lied to you. Please note which political parties both believe in Fascism and total State control (i.e. the LEFT..not the right...and both parties are indeed left! (The pure right is actually anarchy and total freedom. We want to be a tad to the left of that..but not much...as we USED TO BE!!)

WAKE UP!!!!!!! You can't be THAT stupid!! Can you???????

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-02-26   19:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: IndieTX (#124)

(The pure right is actually anarchy and total freedom. We want to be a tad to the left of that..but not much...as we USED TO BE!!)

hear! hear! great post, Indie.

christine  posted on  2009-02-26   19:52:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: christine (#125)

Aww shucks..thank you..I try. :)

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-02-26   19:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Original_Intent (#111)

"The reality is that you have no interest in debate, or even rational thought."

Probably true to some extent in this forum. In a less hate driven forum. I don't really feel to into racism and pointless scapegoating and hatreds.

I'll do a you to me/me to you search and see what sort of take I get on it after the fact. And if I see your criticism has a basis, I'll comment on it.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-26   21:24:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Old Friend (#118)

Got a link, I'm not familiar with any game by that name. I craft and hunt on Planet Calypso, a Project Entropia Universe game by Mind Ark of Sweden.

I am the leader of a society and after several years my avatar is really skilled up.

I watched my girlfriend play it several months before I joined up and got an avatar, and I wish now I had not been such a party pooper about it from the start.

It is a fun game and I enjoy so many players from so many other countries playing. I have a couple of new Chinese disciples - people whom one takes under your wing to teach the game's ropes, and they are fascinating to watch as it gives me insight into them culturally.

Let me know if you ever sign up, I'll help you out with a weapon and some armor and a fap/healing kit.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-26   21:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Ferret Mike (#128)

I hate all of you since FR days and no one would team up with me in Midtown Madness.

The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer

Dakmar  posted on  2009-02-26   21:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Rotara (#123)

I live in what's called 'felony flats in Eugene down in the Whiteaker neighborhood, named after Oregon's first territorial governor. It would be anything but 'felony flats' in the rough parts of town where I grew up in Connecticut, but it is a good place with many decent blue collar workers and has a growing problem with gentrification issues.

If you are ever in this part of Oregon you are always welcome to stop by. I don't bite, and I bet you are a decent enough sort live and in the flesh, though for obvious reasons I would beg off discussing too much in the way of politics.

That topic does not bring out the best in you. It would not bother me to run into you, and you would be surprised how hospitable and nice I can be.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-26   21:41:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Dakmar (#129)

Heh, you mean you actually remember 'ferret' from the good old days? My you are an old timer.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-26   21:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Ferret Mike (#131)

I even know what you look like. Spooky.

The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer

Dakmar  posted on  2009-02-26   21:45:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Ferret Mike (#127)

hate driven forum? please give specific examples as to whom and what you are talking about.

christine  posted on  2009-02-27   0:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: christine (#133)

It's your forum and you know without my input how some people view some of the content people post here and the bad rap things like racial intolerence generally gets in society is deserved.

There are good people here and really good things posted, but if you really do want examples, I remember one instance recently when some really tasteless pictures didn't bother you or many others and many here as if you just don't understand how to be respectful and decent toward others.

It is only as big a deal as you want to make it really. This forum is going to be like it is despite anything I say, so I chose to overlook what I feel are really bad views that do hurt decent people who do not deserve it.

But I am not in the mood to want to war with anyone about it.

I do not like bigotry, and I see it here, and that is my opinion. I am not going to war with anyone over it, nor is it worth even disliking anyone in regards to their love of these pointless wedge issues pushed in forum.

What I don't like is the personal attacks and threats from some in here that never let up. And I backed off not because I am driven off, but because I am not into making this forum a source of stress and consternation for you.

You are a good person, and I don't see you as someone who hates others merely because of race or other wedge issues. Those that live for that sort of thing I am not into cage rattling contests with, unless I am being ganged up on and persistently attacked.

That is what I am not into and why I am fed up.

Turtle can spew his intolerance, people can needlessly worry about harmless people like gays and lesbians or whatever, just allow me the same grace to speak my mind and give my two cents worth without trying to play forum terminator to do some virtual ethnic cleansing of the forum.

You have worked hard to build this forum and I respect that and I am glad you are happy with this product. And if my disagreeing with how some build their little personal paradigms of reality cause you consternation and piss you off, just say so and I will just post elsewhere.

I like you and have no interest with doing battle with you. And you are the host here and have the right to have or not have anyone as part of your virtual community as you see fit.

Hope that answers your question.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-27   1:05:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Ferret Mike, christine (#134) (Edited)

people can needlessly worry about harmless people like gays and lesbians or whatever,

Wait a minute. Excuse me, Ferret Mike, but is that a snide reference to the fact that I posted analysis by multiple Canadian specialist-physicians, who researched a breadth of medical peer-reviewed journal publications, which demonstrated that the risk for gays engaging in pederasty/pedophilia male on young male sex was 10-20 times that of the general population of heterosexual males?

Are the conclusions of MD's with 8-10 years of post graduate education and training something that you believe constitutes "needless worry" about "harmless" people like gays and lesbians?

Isn't the safety and welfare of minor children a key responsibility of civilized society in general and of government in particular?

Are you implying that posting the analysis by professional physicians, which happens to be contra PC thinking grain, is a negative reflection on 4um? Should posters like myself pretend that this medical finding does not exist so that 4um can be kumbahya with the idea of adult male heterosexuals adopting young boys?

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-27   2:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Ferret Mike, christine, Rotara (#94)

I did not start this, Rotara did.

Chris, can you turn on the

sign, please?

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
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Critter  posted on  2009-02-27   6:04:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#130)

I live in what's called 'felony flats in Eugene down in the Whiteaker neighborhood, named after Oregon's first territorial governor. It would be anything but 'felony flats' in the rough parts of town where I grew up in Connecticut, but it is a good place with many decent blue collar workers and has a growing problem with gentrification issues.

If you are ever in this part of Oregon you are always welcome to stop by. I don't bite, and I bet you are a decent enough sort live and in the flesh, though for obvious reasons I would beg off discussing too much in the way of politics.

That topic does not bring out the best in you. It would not bother me to run into you, and you would be surprised how hospitable and nice I can be.

mikey, not only NO, but "HELL NO !!".

First of all, I already know you are a threat to my family, my country and myself.

Secondly, the posters of Che would cause me to flip.

Finally, I'm sure stalin, mao and hitler had their 'good sides' and as much experience as I have with all different kinds of people, I probably could have found a way to enjoy a sake, wodka or lager with them too.

I have no use for the enemy within my country. You're going to have to go find your own, I'm not going to let you have this one.

Your ideas are not equal to mine. I follow the Constitution.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-27   10:31:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: scrapper2 (#135)

Wait a minute. Excuse me, Ferret Mike, but is that a snide reference to the fact that I posted analysis by multiple Canadian specialist-physicians, who researched a breadth of medical peer-reviewed journal publications, which demonstrated that the risk for gays engaging in pederasty/pedophilia male on young male sex was 10-20 times that of the general population of heterosexual males?

Are the conclusions of MD's with 8-10 years of post graduate education and training something that you believe constitutes "needless worry" about "harmless" people like gays and lesbians?

Isn't the safety and welfare of minor children a key responsibility of civilized society in general and of government in particular?

Are you implying that posting the analysis by professional physicians, which happens to be contra PC thinking grain, is a negative reflection on 4um? Should posters like myself pretend that this medical finding does not exist so that 4um can be kumbahya with the idea of adult male heterosexuals adopting young boys?

mikey believes all ideas are equal - facts be damned.

They feel and emote. No logic based on truth allowed whatsoever.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-27   10:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Critter, ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#136)

I did not start this

Like hell you didn't you fucking Traitor !!!


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-02-27   10:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: scrapper2, X-15 (#112)

I missed something when I said that there are two litmus tests for political legitimacy.

In addition to being pro-amnesty and pro-Israel, you also have to be a free trader.

Anything else might be negotiable. These three bases aren't.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-02-27   11:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: scrapper2 (#135)

Pedophelia is a crime where the adult preys on the young because they are not able to handle their peers in sexual and othe situations. Their's is a prey preditor situation.

It is not readonable nor realistic to blame heterosexuality or homosexuality for this inappropriate sexual behavior.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-27   13:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Rotara (#139)

"Like hell you didn't you fucking Traitor !!!"

Oh really? Explain, this should be entertaining.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-27   13:42:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Rotara (#138)

No, actually I do not believe in fascism, you do. You do not believe a forum should be the lively discourse of discussion on ideas, politics and current events, you believe that the only role a forum should have is to hunt down people whom you do not agree with to destroy them, and any discussion should be a tightly controlled chorus that sings the same ideological song.

You are a brown shirt and a wanker with a toxic whine.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-27   13:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Rotara (#137)

"Your ideas are not equal to mine. I follow the Constitution."

So you believe in the First Amendment, just as long as you agree with what is being expressed?

Sorry Charlie tuna, but your smell is not that of the rose you contend you are.

You are a fascist always enraged over speech and advocacy not endemic to your mindset.

My point in that post is somple; I am not at all like you. I will discourse civilly with anyone and treat anyone well despite political differences.

Even you after all the hate and bike you expressed and no doubt will express.

Your threats and badgering indicate a disire to control and oppress. You show you matter more to yourself then anyone else does. You really should get help for your narcissism.

As we have not met and you and I know little real information about each other, the invite will always remain a standing one.

You see, I in no way fear you, but you fear me and anyone else who does not conform to your desire to let you control and force conformity.

Thanks for sharing, I am well amused.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-27   13:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Critter (#136)

heh, Oh now critter, stop. It was not a whine, after all, where would a forum be without an ocasional wingnut who's head spins like Linda Blair in the Exorcist when nobody agrees with his or her Al Haig "I am in charge immitation?"


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-27   14:01:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Rotara, Ferret Mike, all (#137)

Your ideas are not equal to mine. I follow the Constitution.

The only difference between Mikey and a Bushbot is that he would shred the Constitution from the left, while supporting a leftist totatlitarian slave state, as opposed to the Bushbot who prefers one that calls itself "Compassionate Conservatism" - while murdering millions.

Mikey is just another Mind Controlled drone who thinks that supporting left wing despotism is morally superior to right wing despotism. In other words he is an endless littany of hollow leftwing cliches and psyops taglines that are every bit as Mind Controlled as the moronic Bushbot.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-02-27   14:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: IndieTX (#124)

To: Ferret Mike

WAKE UP!!!!!!! You can't be THAT stupid!! Can you???????

After reading his subsequent posts, I think the answer to that question is now obvious.

KinkoTheKlown  posted on  2009-02-27   14:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Ferret Mike (#141)

It is not readonable nor realistic to blame heterosexuality or homosexuality for this inappropriate sexual behavior.

Are you kidding me? Pederasty/pedophilia are not "blameable"???? Pederasty/pedophilia is not committed by ghosts. Those sexual acts are committed by adult gays and straights against children and teens. Furthermore, pederasty/pedophilia has a very high rate of recidivism regardless of "therapy" and attempts at "rehabilitation." IMO, pederasts/pedophiles should be jailed for life with no chance for parole. Our primary responsibility as a civilized society is to protect minors from harm. Convicted pedophiles/pederasts represent a life-long threat to minors.

Consider what happened in the American Catholic Church wherein over 80% of abuse cases involved adult male priests sexually preying on minor-aged male altar boys and parishioners. Do you have any idea about the sheer numbers of youths who had their innocence stolen from them? Here it is for you to ponder while you consider that this inappropriate sexual behavior is blame-free: 10,667.

That's a staggering # of minors abused and a comparatively small # of gay priests - 149 - accounted for 28% of the abuse - these 149 gay priests abused almost 3000 victims. And these predators are not "blame-able" in your mind?

"An overwhelming majority of the victims, 81 percent, were males. The most vulnerable were boys aged 11 to 14, representing more than 40 percent of the victims."

"Slightly more than 3 percent of the accused priests had 10 or more victims and these 149 priests accounted for abuse of 2,960 victims, representing almost 28 percent of the allegations."

www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0401118.htm

scrapper2  posted on  2009-02-27   14:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Ferret Mike (#144)

I will discourse civilly with anyone and treat anyone well despite political differences.

Your respect, obeisance, and homage to the enemies of freedom is evident. You don't need to remind us as if it were some great attribute.

KinkoTheKlown  posted on  2009-02-27   14:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: KinkoTheKlown (#149)

Wow, nice hooers on the gal 'Joey' in your signature picture.

Do they honk if you squeeze them?


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-27   15:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: scrapper2 (#148)

You are still talking about pedophiles, not gays. I also do not condemn heterosexual status because little girls are victimized.

I also am not into banning families because so many pedophiles use family status to access young victims.

many pedophiles do not care what the gender of their victims. To them it only matters that those they prey on are young and accessible,


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-27   15:38:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Original_Intent (#146)

Actually, I know people who are quite far on the right whom I enjoy the company of much more then some I know well who are closer by allot politically.

I also have rented to right wingers over left wing applicants because their references indicated they were honest and stable.

Political orientation is only one small factor to look at when dealing with people, I don't use that as any sort of filter unless someone is really insufferable about their political efficacy.


Ferret Mike  posted on  2009-02-27   15:43:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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