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Title: Despite High Unemployment, Obama Puts Amnesty on the Agenda
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URL Source: http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?pa ... urity=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1721#1
Published: Feb 23, 2009
Author: FAIR
Post Date: 2009-02-25 12:26:01 by X-15
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Views: 2200
Comments: 180
This week, as a guest on a Spanish language radio show, President Obama stated his continued support for giving amnesty to 12 million illegal immigrants, which would force Americans looking for a job to compete with amnestied aliens for work. (El Piolin Interview, February 18, 2009 and CBS4—South Florida). During the radio interview, President Obama said: “We’re going to start by really trying to work on how to improve the current [immigration] system so that people who want to be naturalized, who want to become citizens . . . are able to do it; that it’s cheaper, that it’s faster, that they have an easier time in terms of sponsoring family members.” Following that, President Obama acknowledged what legal American workers already know intuitively—that amnesty is not in their best interest—but then endorsed amnesty anyway. President Obama said: “And then we’ve got to have comprehensive immigration reform. . . . Politically it’s going to be tough. It’s probably tougher now than it was, partly because of the fact that the economy has gotten worse.” (El Piolin). According to the U.S. Department of Labor, over 11.6 million Americans are currently unemployed and the number of unemployed Americans has increased by 4.1 million over the past year. (Bureau of Labor Statistics, January 2009). Millions more have simply stopped looking for work. Just last month, 598,000 Americans lost their jobs. Particularly troubling among the unemployment data is the fact that certain minorities such as African-Americans are experiencing greater unemployment (12.6 percent) than the nation as a whole. President Obama also said his staff was working on amnesty already, stating: “we’ve got some wonderful people on my White House staff who are working on this issue on an ongoing basis.” Earlier this week, open-borders advocates suggested that they expect that Congress will debate amnesty legislation in the fall of 2009. (NDN, February 20, 2009). Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s director of Hispanic media has confirmed the likely timing for debate as well. (O Jornal, January 30, 2009).
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#43. To: Rotara (#42)
You are a coward, and live only to try to bully and control. That is the bottom line with you.
I agree that you have a right to your opinions as long as they aren't imposed upon me. It's not free speech that's the problem. It's the imposition of rules, regulations and laws that cause the angst. Free speech is an outgrowth of Constitutional principles that those with your communist/socialist opinion obliterate when you or those you believe in begin to impose socialist taxation and regulation that clearly violates the same Constitution that allows free speech. You can't have it both ways. Picking and choosing those parts of the so called CONstitution that one agrees with (like free speech principles) while destroying those you don't agree with is dishonest. What I'm saying is that my life isn't something for political morons or politicians to fuck with, it's mine. And when the masses become addicted to socialist programs that they can't pay for and expect me and others taking care of themselves to pay for them ... fuck their free speech because it's costing others a fortune. When your opinions cost me my freedom or wealth I might rethink free speech. This isn't anything personal but it appears that you are confusing talk with actions. I couldn't care less what you think or say ... I do care what is done by those you elect or help elect. (This goes for either criminal party). Today the guns are silent. This communist usurper of the Oval Office and his Attorney General, should they decide to register, tax or confiscate guns will start a civil war in America. At that point free speech won't mean squat.
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. General Smedley Butler
Tell me now, what are we supposed to do?
You have NO IDEA what my bottom line is you fucking Traitor pig fellator.
I'm so sick and tired of the debate with these deviants. Time for words are over. Again, as always, extremely well articulated.
You are conflicted. You say have a right to free speech, then say I don't because I am wrong in your opinion. And you seem to think you are infallible and no one dare question whether you are right or not. How is this not a fascist modus of thinking? You are free with thee insults and seem to like the blood talk going on here this morning with two death threats posted. If you don't like me, you know how to not see my posts, got it?
Listen up cornholer, no one is going to sit back and put ice on it anymore. Those days are over. You want to take us down with you, GOOD FUCKING LUCK WITH THAT !
People who do not share your opinion are 'deviant?' Time to end their free speech rights and to deny them a political role in their own country? You are a fascist, and proud of it. That is nothing to boast about.
Exactly which "grown-ups" are "trying to repair the damage."?? The ones who are threatening to kill us by confiscating our arms and ammunition to leave us unarmed against Obummers' Final Solution?? The people who voted for Obummer are the juden-rats of the 21st century. Obummer has leaped past Clinton, Bush, Carter, LBJ, FDR, Lincoln, and Wilson to attain the title of Worst President In History. All in less than two months into his so-called "administration".
_________________________________________________________________________ Get your medication changed. And good luck trying to grow some good mental health. I feel sorry for you and Stoned old stonie here.
Just so we're clear you delusional Traitorous America-hating demon spawn. Why do the good people in your family die so young and a POS like you lives ? Ever thought of that ?
It's like I said you socialist suck poop, I don't care what you say ... I only concern myself when you and your low-life socialist comrades raid my pocketbook or attempt to restrain my liberty of choice. That has nothing to do with speech and everything to do with theft. Got it ?
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. General Smedley Butler
And of course you need to adjust your meds as well. -end sarcasm- These mother fuckers are delusional beyond help. They're just flat out dangerous.
It's more than theft, it's murder of this nation and it's peoples by slow strangulation. And such a murder must be resisted by armed force.
_________________________________________________________________________ And yours is not merely an 'opinion'. It is sheer treason in motion. Your deviance from every last strand of the Constitution - your imposition into our lives is more than just a verbal or mental affront. You ARE the enemy within. You are MY family's enemy, my country's enemy and a murdering thief inside the wire.
I do not concur. I do not agree with everything the Democrats are doing and belong to the Pacific Green Party because I do not. What I see here is people too afraid to dialog and discuss what you post about. I am merely being used here as a vehicle to talk about a desire to assassinate the president. That much is plainly obvious. Being coy about it and dancing on the edge of the razor blade of discussing revolution and violent over throw of the government is not free speech and open dialog.
Dumb Ass Traitor, How many MORE years do you want to talk while the frog is boiled, dum bass ? Remember when YOU L-I-E-D and claimed to be an actual American and took everyone into your confidence ? You fucking pig..
My goodness you're a fucktard Traitor. I can't wait. CAN NOT WAIT
I have sworn an Oath to uphold, preserve and protect the U.S. Constitution and take this oath seriously, even though my military service is up. Your whines, death threats and hatred of free speech are your problems. Your desire for violent insurrection is your problem, that is involved here.
Can't wait for what? A visit from the Secret Service?
BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !
You're delusional and probably a federal plant. You're a useless eater if there ever were one ... don't flatter yourself that anyone could find you of any legitimate use. Trillions have been stolen from honest hard working Americans investments and retirement funds, something you would have no clue about. It's not a democrat/republican thing ... it's all about dumb fucks like you hoping that some over rated sock puppet is going to save them from themselves. Get a life, your own fucking life, one that others don't have to finance for you.
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. General Smedley Butler
Mike, offer immediate proof.
You pulled that corn flake girl shit on the other site as well. Pussy
You are the one substituting talk on a free speech forum for blood lust, not me.
Nobody here dare directly threaten Barack Obama, but they sure can try to create the climate for insurrection and violent overthrow of the government by using me, an open with my ID poster as a surrogate to express and reinforce their blood talk in a way they feel it will galvanize others to act. The proof that Rotara and others do not want to talk, and prefer a William Quantrill sort of answer to end political freedom and free speech is all over Rotara's posts. He would never dare directly threaten, but he can advance his agenda to see the government overthrown and to see Obama removed from office by any means necessary by trying to use me as a surrogate vehicle to advance his agenda, and it is obvious this is what he is up to.
Your feelings and personal thoughts aside, all I want to know is if you saw or read a threat that would require immediate action on the part of the forum owner. I think I read your answer to be no, right? If OTOH, a comment was missed please ID it now. Thanks.
Oh great defender of freedom; where will you be when they come for my guns ? Where will you be when they come for my gold ? Where will you be when they merge Mexico and Canada and US together and foreigners along with your brother ameriKans patrol our streets ? Where will you be when they come for the patriots' children ? Where will you be when the nation is governed by a world body ? Because I know you all too well, you can't claim ignorance or stupidity. You are a LIAR and one of THEM. You f**king Traitor.
Maybe you are too stupid to know and too brainwashed to care. The puppets will run away when the puppet masters of the illegal shadow government are stopped. You sure love your Marxist front puppet you fucking world socialist Traitor.
Fairy Mike is a trouble maker that is trying to manufacture that "comment". I see his behavior as a threat to the peaceful participation most of us have here even when we don't agree. When I saw his "presidential threat comment" it made me think that he's trying to manufacture a threat that never existed. You were right to demand that he provide the threat remark.
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. General Smedley Butler
That pig does it on every forum he infests.
General Smedley Butler Great tag btw
As they did in the 18th and 19th centuries?
Had the War Between the States been won by the Confederates, the Confederates would have merged with Maximilian's Mexico. That has no relation to the Executive branch and it's bureaucrats lying to accomplish the same with no oversight in Constitutional America. Do you world socialist Traitors even have a clue what you're talking about ??
from The Declaration of Independence~ We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
Those boys had a way with words !
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. General Smedley Butler
The peaceful discourse was ended when Rotara started posting threats, very detailed and graphic ones to me. One does not talk of killing all who disagree without feeling the same in regards to those in leadership positions those he wishes dead support. I would not post my understanding of the full inference of Rotara if I was contacting any agency like the FBI or Secret Service. And I am not the least bit intimidated by Rotara. But if I die violently, he has unsured he will be sought and talked to to see if he turned his words to actions.
Where will you be when they come for my gold ? Where will you be when they merge Mexico and Canada and US together and foreigners along with your brother ameriKans patrol our streets ? Where will you be when they come for the patriots' children ? Where will you be when the nation is governed by a world body ? Because I know you all too well, you can't claim ignorance or stupidity. You are a LIAR and one of THEM. You f**king Traitor. [crickets]
The Tree of Liberty Must Be Refreshed A revolution in America — no matter how you choose to define or characterize it — is still an American Revolution “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” — Thomas Jefferson What happens when the threat to American government comes from within? There is the subtle and invisible war that is taking place at home. This War is between Americans with different understandings of what it means to be “American” and what it means to be “Free”. This war will NOT take place in the trenches and won’t be won with guns or knives. This revolutionary war is taking place among America’s elite over control of our nation’s future. What better way to spearhead the revolution than the advancement of technology? The revolutionary charge from libertarians and anti- war liberals has already started to make members of the establishment a bit nervous. Radicals want change and there will be no compromise on one key idea: Defending liberty at home is essential to fighting the “war on terror” ™ and necessary to restore our Constitution as the supreme law of the land. David hunting down Goliath Can the principle, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” apply to this kind of war? Can Democrats, Independents, and Libertarians band together to bring about this change? Will the change sought shake up Washington and restore American faith in Democracy? Americans sense the the threat to freedom that has come from within. If you haven’t noticed, Libertarians have come out of the woodworks and have amassed a viable force to counter the threat of “super patriotism”. The force is especially noticeable with the rise of Ron Paul, a Texas libertarian that will no doubt impact the outcome of the Republican primary. His band of revolutionaries will likely help decide the 2008 election no matter how Ron Paul fares in the primary. Defending the Constitution vs. “Securing” our Nation Were the founding fathers revolutionaries or “terrorists?” The founders of the U.S. Constitution were most definitely terrorists as per today’s definition of the word. When we recall their patriotic actions, we remember them as revolutionaries, visionaries, and widely regard them as American heroes. Our founder had dreams of an America free of tyranny and corruption. They desired a limited government that would keep order, promote freedom and stay out of people’s affairs. Without the aid of civil libertarians that kept our nation honest and true to our founding principles over the years, the dream our founders had may soon end if Americans aren’t careful. Home-grown Terrorism Legislation is now in sharp focus As I mentioned above, the founders were a special breed of “terrorist”. They stood bravely against a State ready to hang them for not bowing before an unjust king. His majesty, King George III of England, was in for a great surprise! Over two hundred years later, our nation remains strong but liberty is no longer the hallmark of American Democracy. In fact, the issue of protecting Liberty has become a controversial topic now. Our Senators in Congress should be quick to stand up for the cause of Liberty. Instead, the foundation of our nation is cracking and Senators are sitting down when they should be fighting for our rights. If there were ever a litmus test for serving as a public official, protecting essential liberty and defending the Constitution should be it. --snip--
That is pure assumption on your part. Thinking that a threat against you has even the slightest relationship to someone in leadership is preposterous.
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. General Smedley Butler
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#44. To: Ferret Mike (#31)
I have a right to my opinions on things.
#45. To: MUDDOG (#39)
#46. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#43)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#47. To: noone222 (#44)
bump
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#48. To: noone222 (#44)
#49. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#48)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#50. To: Rotara (#47)
#51. To: Ferret Mike (#27)
Sorry, but Bush, the one you speak of is not my man. Also, he is now out of office, and grown-ups are now trying to repair the damage.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#52. To: Rotara. old friend (#49)
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#53. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#52)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#54. To: Ferret Mike (#48)
#55. To: X-15 (#51)
Exactly which "grown-ups" are "trying to repair the damage."?? The ones who are threatening to kill us by confiscating our arms and ammunition to leave us unarmed against Obummers' Final Solution?? The people who voted for Obummer are the juden-rats of the 21st century. Obummer has leaped past Clinton, Bush, Carter, LBJ, FDR, Lincoln, and Wilson to attain the title of Worst President In History. All in less than two months into his so-called "administration".
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#56. To: noone222 (#54)
That has nothing to do with speech and everything to do with theft.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#57. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#50)
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People who do not share your opinion are 'deviant?'
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#58. To: X-15 (#51)
#59. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#58)
What I see here is people too afraid to dialog and discuss what you post about.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#60. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#58)
I am merely being used here as a vehicle to talk about a desire to assassinate the president. That much is plainly obvious. Being coy about it and dancing on the edge of the razor blade of discussing revolution and violent over throw of the government is not free speech and open dialog.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#61. To: Rotara (#57)
#62. To: Rotara (#60)
#63. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#61)
I have sworn an Oath to uphold, preserve and protect the U.S. Constitution and take this oath seriously, even though my military service is up.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#64. To: Ferret Mike (#58)
I am merely being used here as a vehicle to talk about a desire to assassinate the president.
#65. To: Ferret Mike (#58)
I am merely being used here as a vehicle to talk about a desire to assassinate the president.
#66. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#62)
Can't wait for what? A visit from the Secret Service?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#67. To: Rotara (#66)
#68. To: Jethro Tull (#65)
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#69. To: Ferret Mike (#68)
#70. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#67)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#71. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#68)
He would never dare directly threaten, but he can advance his agenda to see the government overthrown and to see Obama removed from office by any means necessary by trying to use me as a surrogate vehicle to advance his agenda, and it is obvious this is what he is up to.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#72. To: Jethro Tull (#69)
Your feelings and personal thoughts aside, all I want to know is if you saw or read a threat that would require immediate action on the part of the forum owner. I think I read your answer to be no, right? If OTOH, a comment was missed please ID it now. Thanks.
#73. To: noone222 (#72)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#74. To: noone222 (#72)
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#75. To: Rotara (#71)
Where will you be when they merge Mexico and Canada and US together
#76. To: war (#75)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#77. To: Ferret Mike (#68)
but they sure can try to create the climate for insurrection and violent overthrow of the government
#78. To: christine (#77)
That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
#79. To: noone222 (#72)
#80. To: ferret mike, WEASEL MIKE, mike mkKarthy (#67)
Oh great defender of freedom; where will you be when they come for my guns ?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#81. To: All (#77)
#82. To: Ferret Mike (#79)
One does not talk of killing all who disagree without feeling the same in regards to those in leadership positions those he wishes dead support.
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