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Title: Pawlenty Says Republicans Must Move Beyond Reagan to Rebuild Their Party
Source: Bloomberg News
URL Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news? ... 87&sid=a97T5pGNMgp8&refer=home
Published: Mar 3, 2009
Author: By Heidi Przybyla
Post Date: 2009-03-03 11:42:47 by Brian S
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Views: 688
Comments: 28

March 3 (Bloomberg) -- Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty has a message for his fellow Republicans: Get over Ronald Reagan.

Like most Republicans, Pawlenty pays homage to the Reagan legacy. At the same time, he is urging his party to get beyond its Reaganite past. Pawlenty, 48, presented his vision of Reagan 2.0 at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington last weekend.

The old Republican orthodoxy of limited government, lower taxes and conservative social policies needs an update if the party hopes to challenge Democrats on issues such as health care, energy and education, he said.

“We need to develop new Ronald Reagans and new reference points,” Pawlenty said in an interview after addressing CPAC. “It would be as if Barack Obama was going around and constantly talking about Truman or LBJ. It’s just become a reference point that isn’t as relevant for young people.”

The CPAC gathering is regarded as an open audition for Republicans with ambitions of national office and a prominent venue for candidates to raise their profiles. With Democrats ascendant in Washington, many Republicans are searching for a message and messenger to lead them back to power.

In a presidential preference straw poll taken before his speech, Pawlenty finished behind former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal and Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, among others.

Challenge to Obama

His message and his appeal, though, have attracted notice. Pawlenty, who was on the short list to be John McCain’s running mate in 2008, may be a fresh face for a party in need of new leadership to challenge Barack Obama’s youth and popularity.

As a Midwestern governor with a working-class upbringing, Pawlenty offers himself as a source of new ideas for a party whose electoral victories were largely confined to the South and rural areas in 2008.

John Weaver, a former adviser to McCain during his 2000 campaign, said Pawlenty’s admonition to move beyond Reagan is critical to the future of the party.

“I put a lot of credibility in someone who’s been elected and re-elected in a blue state,” Weaver said. “We’re headed for status as a minority party for decades if we don’t start making significant inroads with Hispanics, blue-collar voters and young people. That’s how Tim has gotten himself elected and re- elected.”

‘Honor and Respect’

At the same time, Pawlenty is careful to stress the need to “continue to honor and respect and remember Ronald Reagan.” His point, he said, is that “if you’re under 40, people didn’t live through the Reagan era.”

The former president’s principles are “alive and well,” though they must be brought up to date for a new era, Pawlenty said.

David Keene, chairman of the Alexandria, Virginia-based American Conservative Union, which hosted the conference, said Pawlenty’s message may resonate.

“It doesn’t mean that you change your values,” Keene said. “It means that you talk to people in today’s language about today’s problems.”

Pawlenty was one of the few speakers who challenged his party to speak directly about the needs of what he calls “Sam’s Club voters,” and to meet Democrats on their home turf on issues such as health care.

‘Bread-and-Butter Issues’

In his speech, Pawlenty said his two brothers, who were union members, told him, “‘the conservatives or the Republicans, they’re not for the working person.’ You ever heard that before?”

He said “the face and voice and tone of the Republican Party and the conservative movement needs to be more about bread- and-butter issues for everyday people.”

The focus on working-class issues may be a gamble with his party’s leadership. Saul Anuzis, the former chairman of the Michigan Republican Party who touted his background as a member of the Teamster’s union, recently lost his race to lead the national party.

Still, Weaver said many of the politicians who show up at national Republican conferences don’t represent mainstream Republican voters, and the winners of straw polls rarely emerge as the ultimate party nominee. Romney, 61, has won three years in a row.

Limbaugh’s Comments

One measure of the Republican leadership void is that the Democrats are defining the debate. Last week, Democrats began a campaign to nominate talk show host Rush Limbaugh as the Republican Party’s unofficial leader. An ad running this week on cable television highlights Limbaugh’s statement that he wants Obama to fail.

Pawlenty, without directly addressing Limbaugh, called this a losing strategy. “It would be a sad day if all the conservatives had to offer was a wish or a hope that the president would fail so that we could benefit,” he said in the interview.

Pawlenty’s path to national office is obscured by the better-known leaders such as Palin, 45, Romney and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, 53, who also ran for the Republican nomination last year. Jindal, 37, had been touted by some Republicans as the party’s answer to Obama until he delivered a response to Obama’s joint address to Congress last week that was criticized as lackluster, including by some members of his own party.

Before any run for national office, Pawlenty must decide whether to seek re-election in 2010. A presidential bid also would subject Pawlenty to increased scrutiny, with some nonpartisan analysts saying that his record might belie his claim to be a different kind of Republican.

“Here’s the big puzzle about Tim Pawlenty,” said Larry Jacobs, chairman of the politics department at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis. “He’s very smart and he’s very winsome in person. He is a talent. He stands out. When you actually look at what he’s done he’s extremely conservative.”

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

pawlenty is a mcKein water boy and general repubican cs'er.


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Rotara  posted on  2009-03-03   11:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

It’s just become a reference point that isn’t as relevant for young people.

Alternatively, the voting age could be raised.

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Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-03-03   13:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

face voice and tone....is a talen...stands out...youth...smart...message and messenger [a new phrase that idiots will believe]

Notice the article key words.
The dog and pony show continues.
All they care about is putting on a show.
The SUBSTANCE of it all is somehow missing..
Just as the new Omessiah has NO SUBSTANCE.
The new Chimperor is nekked.

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IndieTX  posted on  2009-03-03   13:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

Pawlenty Says Republicans Must Move Beyond Reagan to Rebuild Their Party

Like most Republicans, Pawlenty pays homage to the Reagan legacy. At the same time, he is urging his party to get beyond its Reaganite past.

Like most Republicans, Pawlenty pays homage to the Reagan legacy. At the same time, he is urging his party to get beyond its Reaganite past.

As long as the pubbies think reagan was a god they will forever remain as one wing of our one party. I don't blame pawlenty for wanting to get beyon reagan. He was an asshole like all the rest including the new messiah.

We need another president cut from the same cloth as Teddy Roosevelt. Pawlenty and jindahl aren't even close. Of course the stupid Amerikan electorate wouldn't know that.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-03-03   14:28:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: LACUMO (#4)

“We need to develop new Ronald Reagans and new reference points,” Pawlenty said in an interview after addressing CPAC. “It would be as if Barack Obama was going around and constantly talking about Truman or LBJ."

I haven't heard of Pawlenty, but Obama is acting like FDR on steroids, so his comment indicates he's just another POS politician.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-03   14:38:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#0)

R's have only ONE hope. Right now they look pathetic, and rather quaint in the way people used to look upon hunchbacks or something, some combo of horror and pity, combined with a desire to move away from the presence of aforementioned.

Petraeus.

swarthyguy  posted on  2009-03-03   15:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: IndieTX (#3)

face voice and tone....is a talen...stands out...youth...smart...message and messenger

D@mn! I thought you were byeltsin there for a minute. LOL!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-03   15:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: swarthyguy (#6)

why Petraeus?

christine  posted on  2009-03-03   15:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: James Deffenbach (#7)

D@mn! I thought you were byeltsin there for a minute. LOL!

Idiots...Ko000Oks!!! ~~~morons~~ oblivion!!

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IndieTX  posted on  2009-03-03   15:52:12 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#8)

If he's a Republican, or chooses to be one, he'd be one of the only ones to be able to unite the party, much like Ike.

And I don't think his appearance at the SuperBowlCoinToss was an innocent act, in fact, I'm surprised Obie didn't show up, that's assuming he even knew Petraeus was going to pop in - imo, the first photo op of the 2012 campaign.

All Repub factions will be able to unite around a general, as they did in the past.

swarthyguy  posted on  2009-03-03   15:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: IndieTX (#9)

Idiots...Ko000Oks!!! ~~~morons~~ oblivion!!

Detergent...clothes lines....Agatha Christie......extremists!!!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-03   16:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: swarthyguy (#10)

Petraeus is a relative midget. Historically the "short $h!ts" do not do well in presidential races.

That was one problem with McThuselah, aside from the fact he looked like a walking dead man. He was a 5'8" or so walking dead man.

My favorite hapless midget candidate was Michael Dukakis. I'll never forget this photo op:

Appearances are pretty much everything, especially in a dumbed-down video culture such as the 21st Century United States.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-03-03   17:01:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Sam Houston (#12)

I'll never forget this photo op

LOL. that's worse than chimp's "mission accomplished" photo.

christine  posted on  2009-03-03   17:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Sam Houston (#12)

Alright, I'll be a contrarian.

after the lofty heights of the messiah, a down to earth general may satisfy the visual appetities of the American electorate.

After all, Bush was shorter than either Clinton or Gore or Kerry.

swarthyguy  posted on  2009-03-03   17:13:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: LACUMO (#4)

As long as the pubbies think reagan was a god they will forever remain as one wing of our one party. I don't blame pawlenty for wanting to get beyon reagan. He was an asshole like all the rest including the new messiah.

No one thinks Reagan was a God. But he was the greatest President of the twentieth century. If you didn't spend all your time licking the shit stains off of toilet seats you might know that.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-03-03   18:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: swarthyguy (#10)

All Repub factions will be able to unite around a general, as they did in the past.

Not.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-03-03   18:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Old Friend (#15) (Edited)

your second sentence was unnecessary. as for great presidents of the 20th century, there were none. all were puppets of the central banking interests which makes them all traitors although some would argue that kennedy might be the exception as he did attempt to buck them--the reason he was assassinated, imo.

christine  posted on  2009-03-03   18:13:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine (#17)

all were puppets of the central banking interests which makes them all traitors although some would argue that kennedy might be the exception as he did attempt to buck them--the reason he was assassinated, imo.

If Kennedy did want to abolish the Fed, it was probably the one honorable thing that he ever did. If he did, his motive was to amass more power for himself and his cronies (giving them the power to print money at will instead of the autonomous private Fed), not any lofty Constitutional principles.

On other issues, JFK was just another dirty crook like the rest of the lot. The mob stuffed ballots for him in Chicago. Kennedy got what was coming to him - and good riddance.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2009-03-03   18:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#18)

can't argue with anything you said. do you agree with my assessment of the 20th century presidents?

who do you think was a great president, if any?

christine  posted on  2009-03-03   18:36:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: christine (#17)

I would consider Kennedy as a possibility too. Reagan wasn't perfect but I stand by my statement that there were none better during the twentieth century. Remember they tried to kill Reagan too.

Besides Kennedy who was better then Reagan?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-03-03   18:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#17)

your second sentence was unnecessary

I know. I can't help myself sometimes. But he thinks I eat Jewish foreskins so we are kind of even.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-03-03   18:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Old Friend (#20)

as for great presidents of the 20th century, there were none.

christine  posted on  2009-03-03   18:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: christine (#22)

Ok then. Can you agree with me that Thomas Jefferson was our best President?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-03-03   18:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Old Friend (#15)

No one thinks Reagan was a God. But he was the greatest

actor / participant at Bohemian Grove.

Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

De La Boétie

noone222  posted on  2009-03-03   18:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Old Friend (#15)

No one thinks Reagan was a God. But he was the greatest President of the twentieth century.

That ain't saying much. Listen shit for brains motherfucker cocksucker faggot, you showed your true colors to everyone on here when you supported the ethnic cleansing genocide of the Palestinian people. I honestly believe you are the most hatred son-of-a-bitch on the internet. Kiss off asshole!

LACUMO  posted on  2009-03-04   16:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: LACUMO (#25)

Listen shitstain licker. You support murdering all the Jews. They have a right to defend themselves. Why do you hate human beings?

Old Friend  posted on  2009-03-04   20:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Old Friend (#16) (Edited)

Fine, if they don't, Obama saunters into his second term.

They'll come around by 2016.

As of now, Repubs seem irrelevant, at best quaint and archaic in a museum atmospheric kind of way, objects of pity, derision and reluctant sympathy.

Obama's crew is working with the rather nice fillip of having all the powers that Bush and Cheney accrued, accreted and expropriated to themselves.

It will make the Left partisans cringe, but power is power and Obama would be a fool to do anything than take advantage of all that Bush has bestowed upon him.

Republicans haven't seen Obama UnLeashed yet, he's playing nice with them.

swarthyguy  posted on  2009-03-05   14:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#18)

On other issues, JFK was just another dirty crook like the rest of the lot. The mob stuffed ballots for him in Chicago. Kennedy got what was coming to him - and good riddance.

The whole damn family stinks worse than a week-old dead coyote.

Ted Kennedy is getting his right now, I believe The Creator is making him suffer in payment for the suffering he has inflicted upon America with his totally insane immigration "reform" back in 1965. I can't wait to lob incendiary comments into the comments sections of CNN articles upon his demise.

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X-15  posted on  2009-03-05   15:14:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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