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Title: The Gun Ban list is out
Source: Gun Laws of America
URL Source: http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm
Published: Mar 2, 2009
Author: Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
Post Date: 2009-03-04 01:03:11 by Rotara
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Comments: 36

I just received the following:

Subject: The Gun Ban list is out.

Here it is folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did. Please send this to everyone you can. It will come up for a vote, and it might even be a secret vote if Madame Pelosi has her way, and then it will be a done deal. ...thanks to Colonel Rus...Hal.

Right to own a gun Remember, The first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

Subject: Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list. Forward or send to every gun owner you know...Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America. Jan. 5, 2008. Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress) It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity, It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

a.. M1 Carbine,
b.. Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
c.. AR-15,
d.. Bushmaster XM15,
e.. Armalite M15,
f.. AR-10,
g.. Thompson 1927,
h.. Thompson M1;
i.. AK,
j.. AKM,
k.. AKS,
l.. AK-47,
m.. AK-74,
n.. ARM,
o.. MAK90,
p.. NHM 90,
q.. NHM 91,
r.. SA 85,
s.. SA 93,
t.. VEPR;
u.. Olympic Arms PCR;
v.. AR70,
w.. Calico Liberty ,
x.. Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
y.. Fabrique National FN/FAL,
z.. FN/LAR, or FNC,
aa.. Hi-Point20Carbine,
ab.. HK-91,
ac.. HK-93,
ad.. HK-94,
ae.. HK-PSG-1,
af.. Thompson 1927 Commando,
ag.. Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
ah.. Saiga,
ai.. SAR-8,
aj.. SAR-4800,
ak.. SKS with detachable magazine,
al.. SLG 95,
am.. SLR 95 or 96,
an.. Steyr AU,
ao.. Tavor,
ap.. Uzi,
aq.. Galil and Uzi Sporter,
ar.. Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

a.. Calico M-110,
b.. MAC-10,
c.. MAC-11, or MPA3,
d.. Olympic Arms OA,
e.. TEC-9,
f.. TEC-DC9,
g.. TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
h.. Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
a.. Armscor 30 BG,
b.. SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
c.. Striker 12,
d.. Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.


Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine, and has:
(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.


Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General." Note that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event." In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm Subscribe to *Obama Reality Check*

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#1. To: Rotara (#0)

I must be getting old. Is this going to ban and confiscate those already owned and/or require "registration" of currently owned weapons?

IndieTX  posted on  2009-03-04   1:16:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

sp is usually right on and here's what he said at el pee:

42. To: Happy2BMe-OnLP (#36)

When is this gun ban going to take effect, and what about those who already own what is on the list?

I'm not Gary,but it will go into effect within 30 days of being signed into law (it has to be published in the feral register and circulated first),and people who already own weapons on that list will be required to turn them in or face arrest.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-03-03   07:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace

Rotara  posted on  2009-03-04   1:18:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

45. To: All (#38)

Guess what? I'm not turning them in,I'm not going to register them,and I'm not going to deny owning them.

BTW,I'm not going to bury or hide anything,either. If you plan on doing either,you might as well go ahead and turn them in for all the good they are going to do you. You won't be able to reach them when and if you need them,and even if you could,you still WOULDN'T use them or you would have never buried or hid them to begin with.

If you aren't willing to use them against tyranny and un-Constitutional behavior when the authorities come to illegally take them from you ,WHEN WILL YOU BE WILLING TO USE THEM?

The answer is "Never". Go ahead and turn them in and be done with it.

sneakypete  posted on  2009-03-03   08:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace

Rotara  posted on  2009-03-04   1:19:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The Gun Control Genocide Chart

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-04   1:20:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#8. To: TwentyTwelve (#6)

::chills::

Rotara  posted on  2009-03-04 01:21:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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