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Title: Bishop's apology on Holocaust not enough
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Douglas Dispatch/AP
URL Source: http://www.douglasdispatch.com/arti ... /doc49adb04003aae520577647.txt
Published: Mar 3, 2009
Author: AP
Post Date: 2009-03-05 22:24:36 by Dakmar
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VATICAN CITY (AP) — An apology from a bishop who denied the Holocaust wasn't good enough, the Vatican said, adding that he must repudiate his views if he wants to be a Roman Catholic clergyman. The statement by Bishop Richard Williamson "doesn't appear to respect the conditions" the Vatican set out for him, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, a spokesman for the pope, said Friday. Rabbi Marvin Hier, founder of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, praised the Vatican in a statement for "standing firm and not permitting a person who believes that the Nazi Holocaust is a lie to have any role in the church." In an interview broadcast last month on Swedish state TV and in previous letters and speeches, Williamson denied 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, saying about 200,000 or 300,000 were murdered. He said none was gassed. Williamson apologized for his remarks on Thursday upon his arrival in his native Britain after being ordered to leave Argentina. He said he would never have made them if he had known "the full harm and hurt to which they would give rise." But he didn't say he had been wrong or that he no longer believed what he had said. On Friday, German Justice Minister Brigitte Zypries said Germany could issue a European-wide arrest warrant on hate crimes charges for Williamson since the Swedish TV interview was conducted in Germany. State prosecutors in Regensburg, Germany, have opened a preliminary investigation into whether Williamson broke German laws against Holocaust denial. His remarks prompted widespread outrage among Jewish groups and others. They also embarrassed the Vatican since they were broadcast just days before the Holy See announced it was lifting Williamson's excommunication and that of three other bishops. The four, members of the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X, had been excommunicated after being consecrated as bishops without papal consent in 1988. Bowing to the criticism, the Vatican on Feb. 4 demanded that Williamson "absolutely and unequivocally distance himself from his remarks about the Shoah if he is to be admitted to episcopal functions in the church." Shoah is the Hebrew term for the Holocaust. The German-born Pope Benedict XVI also met with Jewish leaders at the Vatican and told them it was unacceptable for anyone — particularly a clergyman — to deny or minimize the Holocaust. In his statement Friday, Lombardi noted that Williamson's comments were not addressed to the pontiff or to the Vatican's Ecclesia Dei commission, which has been dealing with the Society of St. Pius X ever since its bishops were excommunicated. Rather, Williamson issued a statement that was carried by the Zenit Catholic news agency and posted on the society's British Web site and its news agency, www.dici.org. In it, Williamson said he was only giving the opinion of a "non-historian" during the Swedish TV interview. He said that opinion was "formed 20 years ago on the basis of evidence then available, and rarely expressed in public since." "To all souls that took honest scandal from what I said, before God I apologize." Jewish groups were not impressed. "This is another sham statement that doesn't recant any of his earlier remarks about the Holocaust," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director and a Holocaust survivor. "Bishop Williamson must unequivocally acknowledge the full extent of the Holocaust and recognize the fact of the existence of the gas chambers." The American Jewish Committee praised the Vatican for demanding more. "Until he explicitly says otherwise, he remains in the camp of the Holocaust deniers," said AJC Executive Director David A. Harris. "He is not fooling anyone, least of all the Vatican." The Society of St. Pius X has distanced itself from Williamson's remarks and removed him as the director of its seminary in La Reja, Argentina. The Switzerland-based society was formed in 1969 by the late Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, opposed to the liberalizing reforms of the Second Vatican Council, particularly its outreach to Jews. While Williamson was readmitted as a baptized Catholic back into the church when the excommunication was lifted, he still has no standing in the church as a bishop, said the Rev. John Coughlin, professor of canon law at the University of Notre Dame Law School. That is because the church considers that his consecration was "valid but illicit." It was valid because Lefebvre was a validly ordained bishop in the Catholic Church, and thus could validly ordain others. But because Lefebvre had been suspended in 1976, he had no authority from the pope to consecrate bishops, meaning their consecrations were illicit, or illegal in the church's eyes, he said. Williamson will only be able to function legally as a bishop in the Catholic Church once he has received a mandate from the pope, Coughlin said.
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#1. To: All, *Holo-hoax Censorship* (#0)
Wow, that's pretty specific!
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
Why do I get the feeling that if Bishop Richard Williamson were to split off from the Catholic church and form a new branch of Catholicism with himself as Pope and the first tenent being some variant of "Eff the Jews", the second tenent being "Jews suck" and the third tenent being "Jews can kiss my rosy red ass", that he would soon find himself with more followers and influence than he could possibly imagine?
"This is another sham statement that doesn't recant any of his earlier remarks about the Holocaust," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director and a Holocaust survivor. "Bishop Williamson must unequivocally acknowledge the full extent of the Holocaust and recognize the fact of the existence of the gas chambers."
#2. To: Dakmar (#0)
(Edited)
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#3. To: Elliott Jackalope (#2)
What if he really has unlocked the seventh seal?
The ultimate effect of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools. - Herbert Spencer
#4. To: Elliott Jackalope (#2)
I heard he's a 9-11 Truther as well. Can't have that!
that he would soon find himself with more followers and influence than he could possibly imagine?
#5. To: Dakmar (#0)
It still moves.
I've already said too much.
#6. To: Dakmar (#1)
The sanctity of the hoax must be preserved or the entire scam behind he illegal Israeli state will fall apart.
#7. To: Dakmar (#1)
Dakmar: Wow, that's pretty specific! I agree. Abe is pretty much demanding that Bishop Williamson kiss Abe's butt and subsequently stab himself in the heart and die. What else would foxieloxie mean with his inflammatory use of words like "sham" and "unequivocally acknowledge" and "full extent." Fudge you, Abe. Get a real job as a lawyer and stop scaring little old Jewish ladies for donations to keep your unemployed lawyer self living high on the hog. Also why doesn't Abraham THANK the Catholic Church and Catholics including priests who put themselves at risk by sheltering Jews during WWII? I have never heard gratitude from Abe's lips about Catholics who saved Jews - including his ungrateful self - from harm during WWII.
article: "This is another sham statement that doesn't recant any of his earlier remarks about the Holocaust," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director and a Holocaust survivor. "Bishop Williamson must unequivocally acknowledge the full extent of the Holocaust and recognize the fact of the existence of the gas chambers."
#8. To: scrapper2, Dakmar, all (#7)
As far as good ol' Abe is concerned a Bishop in the Roman Catholic Church is just another goy and needs to prostrate himself before the chosen; facts be damned.
I agree. Abe is pretty much demanding that Bishop Williamson kiss Abe's butt and subsequently stab himself in the heart and die. What else would foxieloxie mean with his inflammatory use of words like "sham" and "unequivocally acknowledge" and "full extent."
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
#9. To: Dakmar (#1)
Which is worse in Abe "raving bagel" Foxmans' eyes: a holoco$t denier or a holoco$t liar?? The only problem was, Rosenblat's story, which he and his wife had been telling for 13 years, was a lie. Six weeks ago Holocaust scholars proved that it was physically impossible for prisoners to approach the fence at the concentration camp where Herman was kept and that Roma's family was actually 200 miles away at the time. Today, for the first time, Rosenblat spoke out in an exclusive interview with "Good Morning America" to share his side of the story. "It wasn't a lie," he told "GMA." "It was my imagination. And in my imagination, in my mind, I believed it. Even now, I believe it, that she was there and she threw the apple to me. ... In my imagination, it was true." Rosenblat said he told the story to give people hope and to promote understanding about the Holocaust. His wife went along with the story because, as Rosenblat said, she "loved" him.
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#10. To: X-15 (#9) (Edited)
A girl who brings him an apple. How original. What kind of people fall for this stuff? "It wasn't a lie," he told "GMA." "It was my imagination." How old is this guy? Six? I think a good case can be made that these people just aren't all there.
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#11. To: Dakmar (#0)
Every nation has created a god, and the god has always resembled his creator. In this case, a two-year-old.
"This is another sham statement that doesn't recant any of his earlier remarks about the Holocaust," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director and a Holocaust survivor. "Bishop Williamson must unequivocally acknowledge the full extent of the Holocaust and recognize the fact of the existence of the gas chambers."
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#12. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#10) (Edited)
Tens of thousands of white Western school children being indoctrinated by their rabid Zionist-handlers??
What kind of people fall for this stuff?
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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#13. To: X-15 (#12)
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#14. To: Dakmar (#0)
I remember reading when this story first broke, that the church had already re- instated Williamson. and the vatican, if i recall correctly, said that his remarks have nothing to do with the religious implications of his reinstatement. just because the joos went nuts, i doubt that he is now not reinstated. church processes are specific and i highly doubt any mainline news article is truthful or accurate when it claims that a plainly reinstated bishop suddenly became un-reinstated. i do not believe this is even possible. I will do some research on this to find the truth, because i like and respect williamson, who also says that 911 is the greatest lie of today. It is not even moral to claim that someone must hold a specific historical belief in order to be Catholic.
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