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Title: Take a gander at what the American sheeple have been offered since 1972
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Published: Mar 7, 2009
Author: me
Post Date: 2009-03-07 16:42:33 by Jethro Tull
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1972 - NIXON v. MCGOVERN 1976 - FORD v. CARTER 1980 - REAGAN/BUSH v. CARTER 1984 - REAGAN/BUSH v. MONDALE 1988 - BUSH v. DUKAKIS 1992 - BUSH v. CLINTON 1996 - DOLE v. CLINTON 2000 - BUSH v. GORE 2004 - BUSH v. KERRY 2008 - MCCAIN v. OBAMA
Poster Comment: Here is the best example I can offer as to why the lesser of two evils voting strategy is a death spiral to hell Each candidate was an establishment tool, and each 'winner' took us further and further down the rat hole to socialism. Only a partisan RUBE would be able to make a case for one of these POS over the other.
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
If you put the lot of them in a paper sack and shook the sack real good, you do know what you would have, dont you????????? I thot so. hehehehehehehe
Can't anyone here play this game?
Lets take it back another 4 years to 1968: Nixon v Humphrey. That makes it 40 consecutive years of absolutely nobody worth a damn standing for president. From 1968 to now, we've totally lost the nation because both parties have a death grip on power.
Turn out the lights, the party's over.
The two-party system to string us along just ain't right.
A sack o' $#it?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. A sack o' $#it? John Nance Garner was the last VP candidate that was worth the powder to blow him to hell. In 1932, the VP candidate was chosen by the party, not the presidential candidate. FDR was saddled with a decent man, one that played by the rules and followed the Constitution. Garner actually worked behind the scenes AGAINST Roosevelt. This little squib explains it better than I can. Garner led the fight AGAINST packing the Supreme court. "Roosevelt and Garner had fundamentally different styles and philosophies of governing. Garner was a strict traditionalist in his attitudes toward party affairs and a strict and unbending constructionist in his literal interpretations of the constitutional doctrine of separation of powers. He was a staunch defender of the sovereignty of the legislature from undue interference by the executive. Citing the low-key approach of Calvin Coolidge as a model, he once stated "My belief has always been in Executive leadership, not Executive rulership."
I don't see either party giving up their power either. Only bloodshed will change anything. Until and unless the sheople rise up pretty soon, nothing will ever change. Too many of us fell asleep the last 40 or so years nnd we've lost our country to a bunch of tyrants.
Amen brother, and Amen.
He sounds like the one who should have been President and Roosevelt should have been shot or hung.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. ....and we have to wonder if the American male is still worthy, or whether he has become Alan Alda-ized.
"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." lodwick
Well, Roosevelt had the rules changed so the the presidential candidate could chose the VP, he selected next a Communist, Henry Wallace. In 1944 when the Dems could not swallow Wallace one more time they compromised on an unknown that would be thrown away when Roosevelt decided to quit. The unknown throw away was Truman.
Well Sir, we are running a parallel to 1932. Roosevelt found out the way to eternal power was via the Treasury and since then, it has all been down hill on Perdition road.
The vast majority of the men who have "served" as president since Lincoln (and including him) would have been better "thrown away."
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Good heavens, Sir!!!!! Not Rutherford B. Hayes, my idol????????????? Such cruelty.
Actually since there aren't enough sheople interested in taking back our country, we should post to threads that are more important. Threads like, karaoke at the local pubs on Saturday nite and talk about the up coming baseball season. Those two topics probably will draw thousands to this forum and others as well.
See... Now you're thinking... combine the politics with drinking and local pubs... then we can have some fun!!!!!
I maintained that Dolly Parton on a third party ticket would have beaten Buckwheat and McKooK.
But unfortunately that was not ordained... she may have had an idea of her own on how to run things... given the success of Dollywood... and we cannot have anyone to choose from that actually thinks for themselves...
Not Rutherford B. Hayes, my idol????????????? Such cruelty. Other than what he did to the Indians I liked Andrew Jackson. But I think that the vast majority of men--not all but most--who have been elected to that office have been beholden to special interests and not necessarily that of America.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. it looks like we've got another cynic in the house. ;) welcome, JD.
Thanks... I have lurked for months and finally had something worthwile (IMHO) to say... love the site... and most appear to be pleasant that are here... well at least as pleasant as we all can be while being BOHICA'd...
I liked Hayes because he said he would serve one term, retire and go away. He did as promised.
A History of American Wars The mother of all terrorists...to be taken quite literally! For those of you who want facts and figures and have the intellect to judge 'good' from 'evil' and the courage to know and say out the truth....for the rest, don't bother reading any further! Ever since the United States Army massacred 300 Lakotas in 1890, American forces have intervened elsewhere around the globe 100 times. Indeed the United States has sent troops abroad or militarily struck other countries' territory 216 times since independence from Britain. Since 1945 the United States has intervened in more than 20 countries throughout the world. Since World War II, the United States actually dropped bombs on 23 countries. These include: China 1945-46, Korea 1950-53, China 1950- 53, Guatemala 1954, Indonesia 1958, Cuba 1959-60, Guatemala 1960, Congo 1964, Peru 1965, Laos 1964-73, Vietnam 1961-73, Cambodia 1969-70, Guatemala 1967-69, Grenada 1983, Lebanon 1984, Libya 1986, El Salvador 1980s, Nicaragua 1980s, Panama 1989, Iraq 1991-1999, Sudan 1998, Afghanistan 1998, and Yugoslavia 1999. Post World War II, the United States has also assisted in over 20 different coups throughout the world, and the CIA was responsible for half a dozen assassinations of political heads of state. The following is a comprehensive summary of the imperialist strategy of the United States over the span of the past century: Argentina - 1890 - Troops sent to Buenos Aires to protect business interests. These **100** instances of American military intervention did not include times when the United States: Following is a list of prominent foreign leaders whose assassination (or planning for same) the United States has been involved in since the end of Second World War. The list does not include several assassinations in various parts of the world carried out by anti-Castro Cubans employed by CIA and headquartered in the United States: List A: Non-Muslims Partial List of Muslim Leaders Assassinated or Attempted Assassinations Reference: Blum, William, "KILLING HOPE - U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II," Appendix III U.S. Government Assassination Plots, page 453, Very likely Victims : A List of Known Assassination Plots Law of Nature: Newton's Third Law of Physics: "For every Action, there is an equal and opposite Reaction."
We do have a resident smelly Turtle whom Christine refuses to ban, other than that most are sufferable.
well, at least we can commiserate.
Turtle is fantabulous and laffs at one of the Buckwheat bellhops.
He did as promised. An admirable quality and very rare in a politician.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Turtle bees like da rainman, he bees da mascot.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. excellent post. i'm stunned at how long the US government has been imperialistic and interventionistic.
The Rockefeller Pentagon Mafia Connection.
The above from your list is one seldom ever mentioned. Let alone why they were sent and what they did.
Hush up or I'll beat you over your miniature head with my Brain.
why were they sent and what did they do?
I never knew it. Also, the list doesn't include the LOVE MISSLES Obama has been accidentally dumping into Pakistan. So we need to add them to the Nations we've Bombed list.
I bet that would really hurt, getting whomped with TWO,COUNT 'EM, TWO, whole brain cells! Why you want to be mean like that?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Turtle's two Brains cells are each the size of a beach ball, and has to keep his peonic servants in their place.
In Russia the American troops had one mission when they started, it was changed once or twice to "fit" the situation. One to guard American supplies stored there, the Communists had already stolen them. Save the Czech Legion which was fighting in Russia against the Reds. All they did was occupy several cities and in fact their being there was a plus for the Reds and a negative for the whites. The Japanese wanted to strangle Communism then and there but Washington would not have any of that.
Turtle is down for the count...7, 8, 9....
A beach ball for a formiga no doubt. ahaha.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
I've already said too much.
#3. To: Cynicom (#1)
#4. To: MUDDOG (#2)
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
I've already said too much.
#6. To: Cynicom (#1)
If you put the lot of them in a paper sack and shook the sack real good, you do know what you would have, dont you?????????
Lord Acton
#7. To: James Deffenbach, Jethro tull, christine (#6)
If you put the lot of them in a paper sack and shook the sack real good, you do know what you would have, dont you?????????
#8. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Here is the best example I can offer as to why the lesser of two evils voting strategy is a death spiral to hell
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
That makes it 40 consecutive years of absolutely nobody worth a damn standing for president. From 1968 to now, we've totally lost the nation because both parties have a death grip on power.
#10. To: LACUMO (#9)
I don't see either party giving up their power either. Only bloodshed will change anything. Until and unless the sheople rise up pretty soon, nothing will ever change. Too many of us fell asleep the last 40 or so years nnd we've lost our country to a bunch of tyrants.
#11. To: Cynicom (#7)
Lord Acton
#12. To: Cynicom (#10)
#13. To: James Deffenbach (#11)
He sounds like the one who should have been President and Roosevelt should have been shot or hung.
#14. To: Bub (#12)
#15. To: Cynicom (#13)
Lord Acton
#16. To: James Deffenbach (#15)
#17. To: Cynicom (#10)
Amen brother, and Amen.
#18. To: LACUMO (#17)
Actually since there aren't enough sheople interested in taking back our country, we should post to threads that are more important. Threads like, karaoke at the local pubs on Saturday nite
#19. To: JDinTN (#18)
#20. To: Cynicom (#19)
#21. To: Cynicom (#16)
Good heavens, Sir!!!!!
Lord Acton
#22. To: JDinTN, Cynicom (#20)
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#23. To: christine (#22)
#24. To: James Deffenbach (#21)
#25. To: All, Here's what these SELECTIONS are all about, boys and girls (#0)
Chile - 1891 - Marines sent to Chile and clashed with nationalist rebels.
Haiti - 1891 - American troops suppress a revolt by Black workers on United States-claimed Navassa Island.
Hawaii - 1893 - Navy sent to Hawaii to overthrow the independent kingdom - Hawaii annexed by the United States.
Nicaragua - 1894 - Troops occupied Bluefield's, a city on the Caribbean Sea, for a month.
China - 1894-95 - Navy, Army, and Marines landed during the Sino- Japanese War.
Korea - 1894-96 - Troops kept in Seoul during the war.
Panama - 1895 - Army, Navy, and Marines landed in the port city of Corinto.
China - 1894-1900 - Troops occupied China during the Boxer Rebellion.
Philippines - 1898-1910 - Navy and Army troops landed after the Philippines fell during the Spanish-American War; 600,000 Filipinos were killed.
Cuba - 1898-1902 - Troops seized Cuba in the Spanish-American War; the United States still maintains troops at Guantanamo Bay today.
Puerto Rico - 1898 - present - Troops seized Puerto Rico in the Spanish-American War and still occupy Puerto Rico today.
Nicaragua - 1898 - Marines landed at the port of San Juan del Sur.
Samoa - 1899 - Troops landed as a result over the battle for succession to the throne.
Panama - 1901-14 - Navy supported the revolution when Panama claimed independence from Colombia. American troops have occupied the Canal Zone since 1901 when construction for the canal began.
Honduras - 1903 - Marines landed to intervene during a revolution.
Dominican Rep 1903-04 - Troops landed to protect American interests during a revolution.
Korea - 1904-05 - Marines landed during the Russo-Japanese War.
Cuba - 1906-09 - Troops landed during an election.
Nicaragua - 1907 - Troops landed and a protectorate was set up.
Honduras - 1907 - Marines landed during Honduras' war with Nicaragua.
Panama - 1908 - Marines sent in during Panama's election.
Nicaragua - 1910 - Marines landed for a second time in Bluefields and Corinto.
Honduras - 1911 - Troops sent in to protect American interests during Honduras' civil war.
China - 1911-41 - Navy and troops sent to China during continuous flare-ups.
Cuba - 1912 - Troops sent in to protect American interests in Havana.
Panama - 1912 - Marines landed during Panama's election.
Honduras - 1912 - Troops sent in to protect American interests.
Nicaragua - 1912-33 - Troops occupied Nicaragua and fought guerrillas during its 20-year civil war.
Mexico - 1913 - Navy evacuated Americans during revolution.
Dominican Rep 1914 - Navy fought with rebels over Santo Domingo.
Mexico - 1914-18 - Navy and troops sent in to intervene against nationalists.
Haiti - 1914-34 - Troops occupied Haiti after a revolution and occupied Haiti for 19 years.
Dominican Rep 1916-24 - Marines occupied the Dominican Republic for eight years.
Cuba - 1917-33 - Troops landed and occupied Cuba for 16 years; Cuba became an economic protectorate.
World War I - 1917-18 - Navy and Army sent to Europe to fight the Axis powers.
Russia - 1918-22 - Navy and troops sent to eastern Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution; Army made five landings.
Honduras - 1919 - Marines sent during Honduras' national elections.
Guatemala - 1920 - Troops occupied Guatemala for two weeks during a union strike.
Turkey - 1922 - Troops fought nationalists in Smyrna.
China - 1922-27 - Navy and Army troops deployed during a nationalist revolt.
Honduras - 1924-25 - Troops landed twice during a national election.
Panama - 1925 - Troops sent in to put down a general strike.
China - 1927-34 - Marines sent in and stationed for seven years throughout China.
El Salvador - 1932 - Naval warships deployed during the FMLN revolt under Marti.
World War II - 1941-45 - Military fought the Axis powers: Japan, Germany, and Italy.
Yugoslavia - 1946 - Navy deployed off the coast of Yugoslavia in response to the downing of an American plane.
Uruguay - 1947 - Bombers deployed as a show of military force.
Greece - 1947-49 - United States operations insured a victory for the far right in national "elections."
Germany - 1948 - Military deployed in response to the Berlin blockade; the Berlin airlift lasts 444 days.
Philippines - 1948-54 - The CIA directed a civil war against the Filipino Huk revolt.
Puerto Rico - 1950 - Military helped crush an independence rebellion in Ponce.
Korean War - 1951-53 - Military sent in during the war.
Iran - 1953 - The CIA orchestrated the overthrow of democratically elected Mossadegh and restored the Shah to power.
Vietnam - 1954 - The United States offered weapons to the French in the battle against Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh.
Guatemala - 1954 - The CIA overthrew the democratically elected Arbenz and placed Colonel Armas in power.
Egypt - 1956 - Marines deployed to evacuate foreigners after Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal.
Lebanon - 1958 - Navy supported an Army occupation of Lebanon during its civil war.
Panama - 1958 - Troops landed after Panamanians demonstrations threatened the Canal Zone.
Vietnam - 1950s-75 - Vietnam War.
Cuba - 1961 - The CIA-directed Bay of Pigs invasions failed to overthrow the Castro government.
Cuba - 1962 - The Navy quarantines Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Laos - 1962 - Military occupied Laos during its civil war against the Pathet Lao guerrillas.
Panama - 1964 - Troops sent in and Panamanians shot while protesting the United States presence in the Canal Zone.
Indonesia - 1965 - The CIA orchestrated a military coup.
Dominican Rep- 1965-66 - Troops deployed during a national election.
Guatemala - 1966-67 - Green Berets sent in.
Cambodia - 1969-75 - Military sent in after the Vietnam War expanded into Cambodia.
Oman - 1970 - Marines landed to direct a possible invasion into Iran.
Laos - 1971-75 - Americans carpet-bomb the countryside during Laos' civil war.
Chile - 1973 - The CIA orchestrated a coup, killing President Allende who had been popularly elected. The CIA helped to establish a military regime under General Pinochet.
Cambodia - 1975 - Twenty-eight Americans killed in an effort to retrieve the crew of the ayaquez, which had been seized.
Angola - 1976-92 - The CIA backed South African rebels fighting against Marxist Angola.
Iran - 1980 - Americans aborted a rescue attempt to liberate 52 hostages seized in the Teheran embassy.
Libya - 1981 - American fighters shoot down two Libyan fighters.
El Salvador - 1981-92 - The CIA, troops, and advisers aid in El Salvador's war against the FMLN.
Nicaragua - 1981-90 - The CIA and NSC directed the Contra War against the Sandinistas.
Lebanon - 1982-84 - Marines occupied Beirut during Lebanon's civil war; 241 were killed in the American barracks and Reagan "redeployed" the troops to the Mediterranean.
Honduras - 1983-89 - Troops sent in to build bases near the Honduran border.
Grenada - 1983-84 - American invasion overthrew the Maurice Bishop government.
Iran - 1984 - American fighters shot down two Iranian planes over the Persian Gulf.
Libya - 1986 - American fighters hit targets in and around the capital city of Tripoli.
Bolivia - 1986 - The Army assisted government troops on raids of cocaine areas.
Iran - 1987-88 - The United States intervened on the side of Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War.
Libya - 1989 - Navy shot down two more Libyan jets.
Virgin Islands - 1989 - Troops landed during unrest among Virgin Island peoples.
Philippines - 1989 - Air Force provided air cover for government during coup.
Panama - 1989-90 - 27,000 Americans landed in overthrow of President Noriega; over 2,000 Panama civilians were killed.
Liberia - 1990 - Troops entered Liberia to evacuate foreigners during civil war.
Saudi Arabia - 1990-91 - American troops sent to Saudi Arabia, which was a staging area in the war against Iraq.
Kuwait - 1991 - Troops sent into Kuwait to turn back Saddam Hussein.
Somalia - 1992-94 - Troops occupied Somalia during civil war.
Bosnia - 1993-95 - Air Force jets bombed "no-fly zone" during civil war in Yugoslavia.
Haiti - 1994-96 - American troops and Navy provided a blockade against Haiti's military government. The CIA restored Aristide to power.
Zaire - 1996-97 - Marines sent into Rwanda Hutus' refugee camps in the area where the Congo revolution began.
Albania - 1997 - Troops deployed during evacuation of foreigners.
Sudan - 1998 - American missiles destroyed a pharmaceutical complex where alleged nerve gas components were manufactured.
Afghanistan - 1998 - Missiles launched towards alleged Afghan terrorist training camps.
Yugoslavia - 1999 - Bombings and missile attacks carried out by the United States in conjunction with NATO in the 11 week war against Milosevic.
Iraq - 1998-2001 - Missiles launched into Baghdad and other large Iraq cities for four days. American jets enforced "no-fly zone" and continued to hit Iraqi targets since December 1998.
(1) deployed military police overseas;
(2) mobilized the National Guard;
(3) sent Navy ships off the coast of numerous countries as a show of strength;
(4) sent additional troops to areas where Americans were already stationed;
(5) carried out covert actions where American forces were not under the direct rule of an American command;
(6) used small hostage rescue units;
(7) used American pilots to fly foreign planes;
(8) carried out military training and advisory programs which did not involve direct combat.
U. S. Government Assassination Plots
1949 - Kim Koo, Korean opposition leader
1950's - CIA/Neo-Nazi hit list of numerous political figures in West Germany
1955 - Jose' Antonio Remon, President of Panama
1950's Chou Enlai, Prime Minister of China, several attempts on his life
1951 - Kim Il Sung, Premiere of North Korea
1950s (mid) - Claro M. Recto, Philippines opposition leader
1955 - Jawhar Lal Nehru, Prime Minister of India
1959 and 1963 - Norodom Sihanouk, leader of Cambodia
1950s-70s - Jose Figueres, President of Costa Rica, two attempts on his life
1961 - Francois "Papa Doc"Duvalier, leader of Haiti
1961 - Patrice Lumumba , Prime Minister of Congo (Zaire)
1961 - Gen. Rafael Trujillo, leader of Dominican Republic
1963 - Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam
1960s - Fidel Castro, President of Cuba, more than 15 attempts on his life
1960s - Raul Castro, high official in government of Cuba
1965 - Francisco Caamanao, Dominican Republic opposition leader
1965 - Pierre Ngendandumwe, Prime Minister of Burundi
1965-6 - Charles de Gaulle, President of France
1967 - Che Guevara, Cuban leader
1970 - Salvadore Allende, President of Chile
1970 - General Rene Schneider, Commander-in-Chief of Army, Chile
1970s and 1981 - Gen. Omar Torrijos, leader of Panama
1972 - General Manuel Noriega, Chief of Panama Intelligence
1975 - Mobutu Sese Seko, President of Zaire
1976 - Michael Manley, Prime Minister of Jamaica
1983 - Miguel d'Escoto, Foreign Minister of Nicaragua
1984 - The nine commandantes of the Sandanista National Directorate
1980's - Dr. Gerald Bull, Canadian Ballistics Scientist assassinated by Mossad in Belgium.
1950's Sukarno, President of Indonesia
1957 Gamal Abdul Nasser, President of Egypt
1960 Brigadier General, Abdul Karim Kassem, Leader of Iraq
1980-86 Muammar Qaddafi, Leader of Libya, several plots and attempts upon his life
1982 Ayatullah Khomeini, Leader of Iran
1983 General Ahmed Dlimi, Moroccan army Commander
1985 Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadllallah, Lebanese Shiite Leader (80 people killed in that attempt)
1991 Saddam Hussein, Leader of Iraq
Common Courage Press, Monroe, Maine 1995. ISBN 1-56751-052-3
April 4, 1979 - Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Leader of Pakistan, for pursuing making of Nuclear Bomb.
August, 1988. General Ziaul Haq, Military Leader of Pakistan.
1995 - Murtaza Bhutto, Son of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Anti-American would-be Leader - Pakistan.
March 25, 1975 - King Faisal of Saudi Arabia through his Nephew, Saudi Arabia for imposing 1973 Oil Embargo.
August 24, 1999. Mullah Mohammad Omar, in Kandhar, Afghanistan.
1950's Sukarno, President of Indonesia
1957 Gamal Abdul Nasser, President
2001 Since early this year more than 40 Palestinian leaders assassinated through surrogate Israel.
#26. To: JDinTN, Turtle (#23)
Thanks... I have lurked for months and finally had something worthwile (IMHO) to say... love the site... and most appear to be pleasant that are here... well at least as pleasant as we all can be while being BOHICA'd...
#27. To: JDinTN (#23)
well at least as pleasant as we all can be while being BOHICA'd...
#28. To: Cynicom (#26)
We do have a resident smelly Turtle whom Christine refuses to ban, other than that most are sufferable.
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#29. To: Cynicom (#24)
I liked Hayes because he said he would serve one term, retire and go away.
Lord Acton
#30. To: Cynicom, Turtle (#26)
We do have a resident smelly Turtle whom Christine refuses to ban
Lord Acton
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
Russia - 1918-22 - Navy and troops sent to eastern Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution; Army made five landings.
#34. To: James Deffenbach (#30)
Turtle bees like da rainman, he bees da mascot.
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#35. To: Cynicom (#33)
#36. To: Cynicom (#33)
Russia - 1918-22 - Navy and troops sent to eastern Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution; Army made five landings.
#37. To: Turtle (#34)
Hush up or I'll beat you over your miniature head with my Brain.
Lord Acton
#38. To: James Deffenbach (#37)
TWO,COUNT 'EM, TWO, whole brain cells!
No place is better than Turtle Island.
#39. To: christine, Jethro Tull (#35)
#40. To: Turtle, James Deffenbach (#38)
#41. To: Turtle (#38)
Lord Acton
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