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Title: Judge assails cases doubting Obama's citizenship
Source: AP
URL Source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap ... EnyP1Bu6Ol4zJsN94mlewD96O5TV03
Published: Mar 6, 2009
Author: NEDRA PICKLER
Post Date: 2009-03-08 00:33:51 by bluegrass
Ping List: *Tracking Comrade Obama*     Subscribe to *Tracking Comrade Obama*
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Views: 1592
Comments: 188

Judge assails cases doubting Obama's citizenship

By NEDRA PICKLER

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time and suggesting the plaintiff's attorney may have to compensate the president's lawyer.

In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else, Obama's critics argue he is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" as the Constitution requires.

In response last summer, Obama's campaign posted his Hawaiian birth certificate on its Web site. But the lawsuit argues it is a fake and that Obama was actually born in his father's homeland of Kenya, even though Hawaiian officials have said the document is authentic.

"This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do," U.S. District Judge James Robertson said in his written opinion.

The lawsuit didn't even use Obama's legal name but called him "Barry Soetoro," the name he went by while attending elementary school in Indonesia. It's one of many that has been filed claiming Obama is ineligible to serve as president.

Robertson ordered plaintiff's attorney John Hemenway of Colorado Springs, Colo., to show why he hasn't violated court rules barring frivolous and harassing cases and shouldn't have to pay Obama's attorney, Bob Bauer, for his time arguing that the case should be thrown out. Subscribe to *Tracking Comrade Obama*

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#148. To: bluegrass (#144)

If someone's claiming to be president, I'd say we have a right to know who he is.

Purely a 20th century phenomonem. I could care less what he does in private or did 20 years ago.

war  posted on  2009-03-10   11:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: war (#146)

I'm saying that the dollar is worth less (it buys less) now than it was in 1912. Do you disagree with that?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   11:57:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Jethro Tull (#147)

Feel free to dwell on me

Not dwelling...compating.

war  posted on  2009-03-10   11:58:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: bluegrass (#149)

I'm saying that the dollar is worth less (it buys less) now than it was in 1912. Do you disagree with that?

It's not that cut and dried a proposition, mon frer.

That said, according to what you have provided above, it does.

war  posted on  2009-03-10   12:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: war (#148)

I could care less what he does in private or did 20 years ago.

Tell me again why there are so many crooks, pedophiles and freaks in office?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   12:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: bluegrass (#145)

My point is that it increased overall when it was a defined and measured unit.

Actually, what you've provided shows that it decreased.

{Part of the problem is that you gold bugs don't allow for the fact that the value of gold becomes free flaoting as well when it is no longer tied to a currency and that speculation can lead to over-valuation.

war  posted on  2009-03-10   12:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: bluegrass (#152)

Tell me again why there are so many crooks, pedophiles and freaks in office?

Tell my why there are so many in any neighborhood.

war  posted on  2009-03-10   12:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: war (#151)

That said, according to what you have provided above, it does.

Then provide info showing that the buying power of the dollar has increased since the imposition of the Federal Reserve. IOW, show me how the Fed has been beneficial to all of us. As you appear to defend its existence, surely you can do at least that.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   12:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: bluegrass (#155)

Then provide info showing that the buying power of the dollar has increased since the imposition of the Federal Reserve.

Using CPI it exists on this page and was provided by you.

war  posted on  2009-03-10   12:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: war (#153)

you gold bugs...

Earth to war:

I've already stated that you're incorrect on that. Kindly update your database.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   12:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: bluegrass (#155)

IOW, show me how the Fed has been beneficial to all of us.

I told you wahy. It removed the Congress from the equation. At every monetary turn they either reacted too slowly, overreacted, or simply failed to act.

war  posted on  2009-03-10   12:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: war (#156)

LOL!

No wonder you think Obama's the man. You can't even discern when you've been screwed.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   12:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: bluegrass (#159)

1.00 = 77 cents is a decrease in value correct?

war  posted on  2009-03-10   12:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: war (#158)

At every monetary turn they either reacted too slowly, overreacted, or simply failed to act.

And the Fed has been the model of restraining the money powers?

How much LSD do you eat?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   12:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: All (#158)

Oops...used either and gave three...that's death by verbosity where I come from...

Kinda like ending a statement with a preposition...

war  posted on  2009-03-10   12:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: war (#160)

It' an increase in buying power.

Hello? Anyone home?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   12:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: war (#154)

Tell my why there are so many in any neighborhood.

In most civilized societies, crooks and pedophiles don't end up being rewarded for their crimes. In my neighborhood, they end up dead, in jail or at least with an ass-kicking.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   12:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: bluegrass (#161)

And the Fed has been the model of restraining the money powers?

Have you been paying attention to how the Fed has actually starved the system of dollars? Has it escaped your attention that in this "crisis" that the value of the dollar has RISEN?

war  posted on  2009-03-10   13:17:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: bluegrass (#163)

It' an increase in buying power.

Nope.

Do I need to explain to you what inflation is when it comes to purchasing power? It ERODES it.

war  posted on  2009-03-10   13:22:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: bluegrass (#164)

In my neighborhood, they end up dead, in jail or at least with an ass-kicking.

I'd like to see a news story from your neighborhood regarding the routine lynchings or assaults of pedophiles.

Start with the local priest.

war  posted on  2009-03-10   13:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: war (#165)

Have you been paying attention to how the Fed has actually starved the system of dollars?

Really?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   13:30:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: bluegrass (#168)

Your graph made my point, doof.

war  posted on  2009-03-10   13:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: war (#166)

Do I need to explain to you what inflation is when it comes to purchasing power? It ERODES it.

Inflation IS the erosion of purchasing power. That power is eroded by actual wealth being bled from us via the imposition of central banking.

IOW, the Federal Reserve exists to rip us off via that erosion/inflation.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   13:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: war (#169)

An increase in the money supply isn't a starvation of dollars.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   13:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: bluegrass (#168)

war  posted on  2009-03-10   13:39:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: bluegrass (#171)

An increase in the money supply isn't a starvation of dollars.

Wha...huh?

war  posted on  2009-03-10   13:41:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: bluegrass (#171)

An increase in the money supply isn't a starvation of dollars.

If you needed $5.00 to complete a purchase and I gave you $2.00...I've increased your money supply have I not?

war  posted on  2009-03-10   13:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: bluegrass (#170)

war  posted on  2009-03-10   13:47:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: war (#174)

If you needed $5.00 to complete a purchase and I gave you $2.00...I've increased your money supply have I not?

If you keep creating money out of thin air (fractional reserve banking), you're not starving the system of dollars.

Explain the velocity of money in two words. I know you can do it.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   13:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: bluegrass (#176)

If you keep creating money out of thin air (fractional reserve banking), you're not starving the system of dollars.

Money gets "created" several different ways but mostly through the demand for dollars which can then "turn over" in the economy several times over - as the last chart above shows. I can create 10billion bushels of corn out of a fractional amount of seed but if the demnd is for 15billion bushels what happens?

Why are assets used as leverage rather than collateral?

war  posted on  2009-03-10   13:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: bluegrass (#176)

Explain the velocity of money in two words

I did above...turn over...change hands...me give...you take...

war  posted on  2009-03-10   13:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: war (#177)

Money gets "created" several different ways

It's created by banks. Even the Federal Reserve used to admit it before they pulled this book:

Modern Money Mechanics

"Changes in the quantity of money may originate with actions of the Federal Reserve System (the central bank), depository institutions (principally commercial banks), or the public. The major control, however, rests with the central bank. The actual process of money creation takes place primarily in banks.

As noted earlier, checkable liabilities of banks are money. These liabilities are customers' accounts. They increase when customers deposit currency and checks and when the proceeds of loans made by the banks are credited to borrowers' accounts. In the absence of legal reserve requirements, banks can build up deposits by increasing loans and investments so long as they keep enough currency on hand to redeem whatever amounts the holders of deposits want to convert into currency. This unique attribute of the banking business was discovered many centuries ago. It started with goldsmiths.

As early bankers, they initially provided safekeeping services, making a profit from vault storage fees for gold and coins deposited with them. People would redeem their "deposit receipts" whenever they needed gold or coins to purchase something, and physically take the gold or coins to the seller who, in turn, would deposit them for safekeeping, often with the same banker. Everyone soon found that it was a lot easier simply to use the deposit receipts directly as a means of payment.

These receipts, which became known as notes, were acceptable as money since whoever held them could go to the banker and exchange them for metallic money. Then, bankers discovered that they could make loans merely by giving their promises to pay, or bank notes, to borrowers.

In this way, banks began to create money. More notes could be issued than the gold and coin on hand because only a portion of the notes outstanding would be presented for payment at any one time."

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   14:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: war (#178) (Edited)

Try "money multiplier".

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-10   14:03:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: bluegrass (#180)

Try "money multiplier".

Try no...

Velocity is the measurement of how many times a single dollar turns over in the economy. Velocity does not increase GDP and the dollar, as measured in velocity, stays whole...unlike the...

...basic multiplier is when 1 dollar is deposited in a bank and it results in 1- minus the % in reserve requirement cents remaining being lent. That CAN and DOES increase GDP but the original dollar gets split out several times...

war  posted on  2009-03-10   14:10:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: bluegrass (#179)

Changes in the quantity of money may originate with actions of the Federal Reserve System (the central bank), depository institutions (principally commercial banks), or the public. The major control, however, rests with the central bank. The actual process of money creation takes place primarily in banks.

Which is two ways that it is created. So?

It's also created when a something is securitized using leverage in which case the market has "created" money and a bank or the Fed steps in and meets the demand.

war  posted on  2009-03-10   14:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: bluegrass (#179)

Changes in the quantity of money may originate with actions of the Federal Reserve System (the central bank), depository institutions (principally commercial banks), or the public. The major control, however, rests with the central bank. The actual process of money creation takes place primarily in banks.

Actually...that is three ways...

I've read through that several times now and it differs from what I've ststed here not at all.

war  posted on  2009-03-10   14:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: Jethro Tull (#136)

...and mama Stanley was simply a whore who liked the tar roll.

Mud shark.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-03-11   5:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: HOUNDDAWG, all (#184)

Good morning Mr. DAWG.

I'd like to have the time and patience to learn how Stanley Durham, single mother and welfare queen, was able to pursue a PhD in anthropology in Indonesia. Being the double digit IQ, white racist that I am, my tiny mind boggles at the mechanics necessary for this to have happened.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-11   5:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: Jethro Tull (#185)

Another PURE coincidence !

LOL

'night amigo


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-11   6:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Rotara (#186)

Sleep tight, mi amigo.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-11   6:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: Jethro Tull (#185)

She may have had financial support from the American Communist Party or one of its sympathetic ancillary orgs.

Which is to say, support from the same people whose ad bux keep newspapers from printing the race of violent crime perps or most molestations committed by The Rebbe.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2009-03-11   7:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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