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Title: Judge assails cases doubting Obama's citizenship
Source: AP
URL Source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap ... EnyP1Bu6Ol4zJsN94mlewD96O5TV03
Published: Mar 6, 2009
Author: NEDRA PICKLER
Post Date: 2009-03-08 00:33:51 by bluegrass
Ping List: *Tracking Comrade Obama*     Subscribe to *Tracking Comrade Obama*
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Views: 1565
Comments: 188

Judge assails cases doubting Obama's citizenship

By NEDRA PICKLER

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time and suggesting the plaintiff's attorney may have to compensate the president's lawyer.

In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else, Obama's critics argue he is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" as the Constitution requires.

In response last summer, Obama's campaign posted his Hawaiian birth certificate on its Web site. But the lawsuit argues it is a fake and that Obama was actually born in his father's homeland of Kenya, even though Hawaiian officials have said the document is authentic.

"This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do," U.S. District Judge James Robertson said in his written opinion.

The lawsuit didn't even use Obama's legal name but called him "Barry Soetoro," the name he went by while attending elementary school in Indonesia. It's one of many that has been filed claiming Obama is ineligible to serve as president.

Robertson ordered plaintiff's attorney John Hemenway of Colorado Springs, Colo., to show why he hasn't violated court rules barring frivolous and harassing cases and shouldn't have to pay Obama's attorney, Bob Bauer, for his time arguing that the case should be thrown out. Subscribe to *Tracking Comrade Obama*

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#16. To: Critter, Cynicom (#15)

No, you only need one word. Cynicom said, "This Judge needs to be taken out behind the barn and.........?"

And the one-word, fill in the blank could be the word hung (or hanged). Another one-word fill in is "shot." Either would rid the world of someone who is taking up space and oxygen better left for an actual American.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-08   10:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: James Deffenbach (#16)

You're no fun. :p

Would tying to a bumper and dragging for a few miles be considered cruel and unusual?

Make awkward sexual advances, not war.
Morehead City Concerts Summer 2009

Critter  posted on  2009-03-08   10:29:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Critter (#17)

Well no, not as long as it was someone like that ignoramus. I doubt he would even feel it, he sounds just barely sentient.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-08   10:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#8)

He did post it. Are you claiming that he did not?

That's exactly what I'm claiming. Obama posted a certification of live birth (it says so right at the top of what he released), not a certificate of live birth. What Obama's released isn't even enough to prove that he's a native Hawaiian.

Applying for Hawaiian Home Lands

The primary documents used to show you are of age and a qualified native Hawaiian are:

A certified copy of Certificate of Birth;
A certified copy of Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, including testimonies; or
A certified copy of Certificate of Delayed Birth.

...In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.

When Obama and his minions claim that he posted a birth certificate, they neglect to mention what it really is: a receipt for a birth certificate, not a birth certificate.

On page 9 of this PDF is a sample copy of what a real Hawaiian birth certificate looks like. It looks nothing like what's claimed for Obama's document:

On page 11 of the above PDF, they also emphasize the difference between a Certificate of Live Birth and Certification of Live Birth. Yet for some reason, Obama and Co. have obfuscated the difference.

The Obama claim to power is based on a lie. Anyone that supports him is no different from those Bushbots that still backed Bush after his lies were proven for the world to see. I just proved to you that Obama's lying to you and millions. Should you continue to voice support for him, I'll know that you have zero desire for the truth in this matter.

Obama's just another fuckwad politician that is selling us out for his own personal gain.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   11:09:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: farmfriend (#2)

Attempt to squash any further law suits.

Bushbots called me a 'truther', Obamabots call me a 'birther'. I'm beginning to think these epithets come from Tel Aviv.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   11:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: RickyJ (#3)

The MSM keeps forgetting they are just about irrelevant now.

But still members of the MSM are calling for a bailout. ; )

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   11:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#4)

This Judge needs to be taken out behind the barn and.........?

ridiculed.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   11:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: bluegrass (#20)

Bushbots called me a 'truther', Obamabots call me a 'birther'. I'm beginning to think these epithets come from Tel Aviv.

And isn't it a hoot how suddenly the Os, most of whom know the judicial system is comprised of political appointees, hold rulings by judges as gospel? The Os are defenders of the System that will eventually enslave them and their children.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-08   11:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: bluegrass (#19)

On page 11 of the above PDF, they also emphasize the difference between a Certificate of Live Birth and Certification of Live Birth. Yet for some reason, Obama and Co. have obfuscated the difference.

thanks for posting this.

christine  posted on  2009-03-08   11:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: bluegrass (#22)

ridiculed.

Sissy, weenie, wussie, hehehehehe.

I had in mind ...shot or hung...but after thinking it over, a good horse whipping to help him see the light of day, repent his sins, would do more good.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-03-08   11:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: James Deffenbach (#5)

The judge in this case is obviously an Obamabot.

Or he's just a go-along-to-get-ahead kind of guy.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   11:18:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

The Os are defenders of the System that will eventually enslave them and their children.

Eventually? ; )

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   11:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#24)

Thanks for having a board to post it on, sister.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   11:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#25)

I was going to say horsewhipping. Great minds....

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   11:22:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: bluegrass, christine (#28)

Thanks for having a board to post it on, sister.

What?????

How you know Christine is not a gubmint agent???? Hmmmmmm. Trolling for anti gubmint people???? HHHmmm.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-03-08   11:26:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom, christine (#30)

How you know Christine is not a gubmint agent?

Because in all these years, she's never asked me to do anything illegal. : )

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   11:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#30) (Edited)

How you know Christine is not a gubmint agent???? Hmmmmmm. Trolling for anti gubmint people????

You just made the Blue List.

Join 2x4 Tuesdays & protect your RKBA.
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randge  posted on  2009-03-08   11:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: James Deffenbach (#13)

Do you have any relevant information to the contrary whatsoever?

war  posted on  2009-03-08   11:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: bluegrass (#19)

That's exactly what I'm claiming. Obama posted a certification of live birth (it says so right at the top of what he released), not a certificate of live birth.

And on that COLB it states: prima facie eveidence of live birth in ANY court proceeding AND that it is a factual copy of what is on file.

If you have an issue with what Obama has posted and you have ANY evidence that what he has provided is a forgery then feel free to present your evidence to any US attorney or to any DA in Hawaii. I am sure that forging official documents MUST be a crime, eh?

war  posted on  2009-03-08   11:54:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: bluegrass (#19)

Do you understand the meaning of the word "preferred" over "required"?

war  posted on  2009-03-08   11:56:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: war (#34)

you have ANY evidence that what he has provided is a forgery

I never said it was a forgery. I said he's lying about what it is. It's not a birth certificate even though you, Obama and Co. try to claim it is.

Thanks. You just proved to me that the truth means nothing to you.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   12:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: war (#35)

It doesn't change the fact that Obama's never released a birth certificate.

You're sounding more like a Bushbot everyday.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   12:02:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: bluegrass (#31)

Because in all these years, she's never asked me to do anything illegal. : )

That is about as pathetic an answer as I have ever heard. hehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2009-03-08   12:05:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: randge (#32)

randge...

I love sowing tiny seeds of doubt....

I know, mean and childish but at least I amuse myself, and dont get in any trouble.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-03-08   12:07:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Cynicom, christine (#38)

One can never discount anything, but if this is a Fed, all is truly lost.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   12:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: bluegrass (#40)

I knew it, you been snookered.

Have to put you on my jelly backbone list, sigh, too bad.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-03-08   12:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom (#41)

Have to put you on my jelly backbone list

When it comes to the ladies, that's a good list for me to be on...

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   12:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: bluegrass (#42)

You may be a good grass picker, have the proper attitude for an American and all that, BUT, jelly backbone puts you on a list with most of the other yahoos here, cept me.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-03-08   12:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Cynicom (#43)

cept me.

You ol' 'ceptionalist.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   12:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: bluegrass (#36)

Thanks. You just proved to me that the truth means nothing to you.

He's been proving that ever since his boy got elected.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-08   12:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: James Deffenbach (#45)

I know. I just wanted to lance the boil and get it into the open air.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   13:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: James Deffenbach, bluegrass, all (#45) (Edited)

The same asshats who spam boards with layers of legal challenges by Team Obama, would defend the same System that released OJ Simpson and Teddy Kennedy. Tools are tools.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-08   13:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: bluegrass (#1)

A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time and suggesting the plaintiff's attorney may have to compensate the president's lawyer.

Trying to affect change via the Admiralty Kangaroo Court System in amerrrriKa is an ignoramus or outright fool. IMO


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-08   15:49:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jethro Tull (#47)

The same asshats who spam boards with layers of legal challenges by Team Obama, would defend the same System that released OJ Simpson and Teddy Kennedy. Tools are tools.

Exactly.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-08   16:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Rotara (#48)

A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time

Don't you just love how the asshats who get elevated to the Cult of the Black Robe refer to themselves as "the court" and talk about how the peons are wasting their time by actually bringing cases for them to listen to and make impartial decisions based on the law? What a burden for them and how rude for anyone to think they would be interested in stuff like that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-08   16:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: James Deffenbach (#50)

Judges are the slime of shysters.

Judges should not be lawyers, that is a prime reason there is NO justice in the justice system

Cynicom  posted on  2009-03-08   16:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Cynicom (#51)

Judges are the slime of shysters.

Judges should not be lawyers, that is a prime reason there is NO justice in the justice system

Agreed 100%. And there is no Constitutional requirement for the judges to be lawyers either. And I have thought a lot of times that someone with some good common sense and who could read plain English and not be hunting penumbras and unicorns would do a lot better job. And it is pretty certain they couldn't do any worse than ass hats like the one mentioned in this article.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-08   16:43:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: bluegrass (#36)

It IS a birth certificate.

war  posted on  2009-03-09   8:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: bluegrass (#19)

When Obama and his minions claim that he posted a birth certificate, they neglect to mention what it really is: a receipt for a birth certificate, not a birth certificate.

Just like their money.

... now with Solium™!

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-03-09   10:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Rotara (#48)

Trying to affect change via the Admiralty Kangaroo Court System in amerrrriKa is an ignoramus or outright fool. IMO

There's no such thing as bad publicity. Courts CAN be useful from that point of view and ONLY that point of view.

But yes, the courts are the last refuge of the LOSING side. Andy Jackson didn't need no court.

... now with Solium™!

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-03-09   10:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: war (#53)

It IS a birth certificate.

It's a document that even the state of Hawaii won't accept without verification of the originating certificate.

If it makes you feel any better, I think Obama's hiding the fact that he was born out of wedlock, per Michelle Obama:

firstread.msnbc.msn.com /a...e/2008/07/10/1193601.aspx

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- A day after the revelation of Jesse Jackson’s crude criticism of Barack Obama’s speeches on fatherhood and faith-based initiatives, this morning Michelle Obama was talking about fatherhood, responsibility and accountability.

...His own mother, she said at the beginning of her remarks, was "very young and very single when she had him." And, Obama added, he has observed his wife's attempts to reconcile motherhood with her career aspirations.

Either way, Obama's not a natural born citizen due to his father's citizenship. It's cut and dried to those of us that prefer the Constitution over any political party.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-09   13:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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