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Title: Judge assails cases doubting Obama's citizenship
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Published: Mar 6, 2009
Author: NEDRA PICKLER
Post Date: 2009-03-08 00:33:51 by bluegrass
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Judge assails cases doubting Obama's citizenship By NEDRA PICKLER WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time and suggesting the plaintiff's attorney may have to compensate the president's lawyer. In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else, Obama's critics argue he is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" as the Constitution requires. In response last summer, Obama's campaign posted his Hawaiian birth certificate on its Web site. But the lawsuit argues it is a fake and that Obama was actually born in his father's homeland of Kenya, even though Hawaiian officials have said the document is authentic. "This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do," U.S. District Judge James Robertson said in his written opinion. The lawsuit didn't even use Obama's legal name but called him "Barry Soetoro," the name he went by while attending elementary school in Indonesia. It's one of many that has been filed claiming Obama is ineligible to serve as president. Robertson ordered plaintiff's attorney John Hemenway of Colorado Springs, Colo., to show why he hasn't violated court rules barring frivolous and harassing cases and shouldn't have to pay Obama's attorney, Bob Bauer, for his time arguing that the case should be thrown out.
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#1. To: christine, pinguinite, Jethro Tull, randge, HOUNDDAWG, scrapper2, Lady X, Esso, DeaconBenjamin, bush_is_a_moonie, Cynicom, Rotara, Prefrontal Vortex, James Deffenbach, TwentyTwelve, Rupert_Pupkin, PSUSA, war (#0)
Posted to keep track of how the media handles this story as it gains more steam. It ain't going away. In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else, Obama's critics argue he is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" as the Constitution requires. Does this sound like a familiar tact that the media takes for soon to be taboo topics? Think holocaust, 9/11, etc. In response last summer, Obama's campaign posted his Hawaiian birth certificate on its Web site. I wonder how long they can keep this lie up?
Much like the comic section? I wonder how long they can keep this lie up? He did post it. Are you claiming that he did not?
That's exactly what I'm claiming. Obama posted a certification of live birth (it says so right at the top of what he released), not a certificate of live birth. What Obama's released isn't even enough to prove that he's a native Hawaiian. The primary documents used to show you are of age and a qualified native Hawaiian are: A certified copy of Certificate of Birth; ...In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL. When Obama and his minions claim that he posted a birth certificate, they neglect to mention what it really is: a receipt for a birth certificate, not a birth certificate. On page 9 of this PDF is a sample copy of what a real Hawaiian birth certificate looks like. It looks nothing like what's claimed for Obama's document: On page 11 of the above PDF, they also emphasize the difference between a Certificate of Live Birth and Certification of Live Birth. Yet for some reason, Obama and Co. have obfuscated the difference. The Obama claim to power is based on a lie. Anyone that supports him is no different from those Bushbots that still backed Bush after his lies were proven for the world to see. I just proved to you that Obama's lying to you and millions. Should you continue to voice support for him, I'll know that you have zero desire for the truth in this matter. Obama's just another fuckwad politician that is selling us out for his own personal gain.
And on that COLB it states: prima facie eveidence of live birth in ANY court proceeding AND that it is a factual copy of what is on file. If you have an issue with what Obama has posted and you have ANY evidence that what he has provided is a forgery then feel free to present your evidence to any US attorney or to any DA in Hawaii. I am sure that forging official documents MUST be a crime, eh?
you have ANY evidence that what he has provided is a forgery I never said it was a forgery. I said he's lying about what it is. It's not a birth certificate even though you, Obama and Co. try to claim it is. Thanks. You just proved to me that the truth means nothing to you.
It IS a birth certificate.
It's a document that even the state of Hawaii won't accept without verification of the originating certificate. If it makes you feel any better, I think Obama's hiding the fact that he was born out of wedlock, per Michelle Obama: KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- A day after the revelation of Jesse Jackson’s crude criticism of Barack Obama’s speeches on fatherhood and faith-based initiatives, this morning Michelle Obama was talking about fatherhood, responsibility and accountability. ...His own mother, she said at the beginning of her remarks, was "very young and very single when she had him." And, Obama added, he has observed his wife's attempts to reconcile motherhood with her career aspirations. Either way, Obama's not a natural born citizen due to his father's citizenship. It's cut and dried to those of us that prefer the Constitution over any political party.
You've offered npo proof of that. If it makes you feel any better, I think Obama's hiding the fact that he was born out of wedlock, per Michelle Obama: So? Either way, Obama's not a natural born citizen due to his father's citizenship. You know that to be a lie.
I certainly did. You just refuse to see it: ...In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL. Take the Obama-blinders off and have a look at reality.
bluegrass, we have a new rule. Negro presidents don't need no stinkin' birth certificates.
Wherer is the rule that said that us crackers needed them?
McCain released his and it proved he wasn't eligible to be president either. But for some odd reason, the Obama campaign and the media never picked up on it.
Obama released his birth certificate. Hawaii said it is valid. What MORE do you need? Citizenship and age is all you need. As for McCain. I pointed out to you that US citizenship passed to McCain at his birth under the US' sole acknowledgement of a tenet of the doctrine of jus sanguis.
You just admitted that he released a receipt, not a birth certificate. Do you know the old joke about the bear and the hunter? You remind me of the hunter. I pointed out to you that US citizenship passed to McCain at his birth The why did the Senate feel a special need to pass a special resolution last year for special John McCain stating that McLame was a natural born citizen? If he had an unshakable legal claim, he wouldn't a special Senate act for it, would he? BTW, Hillary and Obama sponsored that resolution:
The moderator deleted that post. The why did the Senate feel a special need to pass a special resolution last year for special John McCain stating that McLame was a natural born citizen? If he had an unshakable legal claim, he wouldn't a special Senate act for it, would he? Just another bizarre initiative of that particular body and one of which I have no desire to understand.
You prove that every day. Your Dem pals backed up McCain's bid. What's there to understand?
And you routinley strive to discover the higher purpose behind that august body's machinations?
Their higher purpose is to keep us under the yoke of the MIC. No one survives the Senate unless they're a complete and utter tool. Obama was a Senator for how long?
#83. To: bluegrass (#81)
4 years...his qualifications were vetted and debated last year and while they did not satisfy me they most certainly satisfied enough to put him up for election.
Okay...I give up...
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#8. To: bluegrass (#1)
Posted to keep track of how the media handles this story as it gains more steam. It ain't going away.
#19. To: war (#8)
He did post it. Are you claiming that he did not?
Applying for Hawaiian Home Lands
A certified copy of Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, including testimonies; or
A certified copy of Certificate of Delayed Birth.
#34. To: bluegrass (#19)
That's exactly what I'm claiming. Obama posted a certification of live birth (it says so right at the top of what he released), not a certificate of live birth.
#36. To: war (#34)
#53. To: bluegrass (#36)
#56. To: war (#53)
It IS a birth certificate.
firstread.msnbc.msn.com /a...e/2008/07/10/1193601.aspx
#58. To: bluegrass (#56)
It's a document that even the state of Hawaii won't accept without verification of the originating certificate.
#59. To: war (#58)
You've offered npo proof of that.
#61. To: bluegrass, nolu, all (#59)
#62. To: Jethro Tull (#61)
#67. To: war (#62)
Wherer is the rule that said that us crackers needed them?
#70. To: bluegrass (#67)
he wasn't eligible to be president either
#72. To: war (#70)
Obama released his birth certificate.
#74. To: bluegrass (#72)
You just admitted that he released a receipt, not a birth certificate.
#78. To: war (#74)
I have no desire to understand.
#80. To: bluegrass (#78)
You prove that every day.
#81. To: war (#80)
And you routinley strive to discover the higher purpose behind that august body's machinations?
Replies to Comment # 81. Obama was a Senator for how long?
#84. To: bluegrass (#81)
MIC
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