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Title: Judge assails cases doubting Obama's citizenship
Source: AP
URL Source: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap ... EnyP1Bu6Ol4zJsN94mlewD96O5TV03
Published: Mar 6, 2009
Author: NEDRA PICKLER
Post Date: 2009-03-08 00:33:51 by bluegrass
Ping List: *Tracking Comrade Obama*     Subscribe to *Tracking Comrade Obama*
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Views: 1688
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Judge assails cases doubting Obama's citizenship

By NEDRA PICKLER

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time and suggesting the plaintiff's attorney may have to compensate the president's lawyer.

In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else, Obama's critics argue he is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" as the Constitution requires.

In response last summer, Obama's campaign posted his Hawaiian birth certificate on its Web site. But the lawsuit argues it is a fake and that Obama was actually born in his father's homeland of Kenya, even though Hawaiian officials have said the document is authentic.

"This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do," U.S. District Judge James Robertson said in his written opinion.

The lawsuit didn't even use Obama's legal name but called him "Barry Soetoro," the name he went by while attending elementary school in Indonesia. It's one of many that has been filed claiming Obama is ineligible to serve as president.

Robertson ordered plaintiff's attorney John Hemenway of Colorado Springs, Colo., to show why he hasn't violated court rules barring frivolous and harassing cases and shouldn't have to pay Obama's attorney, Bob Bauer, for his time arguing that the case should be thrown out. Subscribe to *Tracking Comrade Obama*

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#46. To: James Deffenbach (#45)

I know. I just wanted to lance the boil and get it into the open air.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-08   13:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: James Deffenbach, bluegrass, all (#45)
(Edited)

The same asshats who spam boards with layers of legal challenges by Team Obama, would defend the same System that released OJ Simpson and Teddy Kennedy. Tools are tools.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-08   13:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: bluegrass (#1)

A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time and suggesting the plaintiff's attorney may have to compensate the president's lawyer.

Trying to affect change via the Admiralty Kangaroo Court System in amerrrriKa is an ignoramus or outright fool. IMO


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-08   15:49:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Jethro Tull (#47)

The same asshats who spam boards with layers of legal challenges by Team Obama, would defend the same System that released OJ Simpson and Teddy Kennedy. Tools are tools.

Exactly.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-08   16:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Rotara (#48)

A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time

Don't you just love how the asshats who get elevated to the Cult of the Black Robe refer to themselves as "the court" and talk about how the peons are wasting their time by actually bringing cases for them to listen to and make impartial decisions based on the law? What a burden for them and how rude for anyone to think they would be interested in stuff like that.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-08   16:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: James Deffenbach (#50)

Judges are the slime of shysters.

Judges should not be lawyers, that is a prime reason there is NO justice in the justice system

Cynicom  posted on  2009-03-08   16:39:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Cynicom (#51)

Judges are the slime of shysters.

Judges should not be lawyers, that is a prime reason there is NO justice in the justice system

Agreed 100%. And there is no Constitutional requirement for the judges to be lawyers either. And I have thought a lot of times that someone with some good common sense and who could read plain English and not be hunting penumbras and unicorns would do a lot better job. And it is pretty certain they couldn't do any worse than ass hats like the one mentioned in this article.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2009-03-08   16:43:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: bluegrass (#36)

It IS a birth certificate.

war  posted on  2009-03-09   8:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: bluegrass (#19)

When Obama and his minions claim that he posted a birth certificate, they neglect to mention what it really is: a receipt for a birth certificate, not a birth certificate.

Just like their money.

... now with Solium™!

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-03-09   10:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Rotara (#48)

Trying to affect change via the Admiralty Kangaroo Court System in amerrrriKa is an ignoramus or outright fool. IMO

There's no such thing as bad publicity. Courts CAN be useful from that point of view and ONLY that point of view.

But yes, the courts are the last refuge of the LOSING side. Andy Jackson didn't need no court.

... now with Solium™!

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2009-03-09   10:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: war (#53)

It IS a birth certificate.

It's a document that even the state of Hawaii won't accept without verification of the originating certificate.

If it makes you feel any better, I think Obama's hiding the fact that he was born out of wedlock, per Michelle Obama:

firstread.msnbc.msn.com /a...e/2008/07/10/1193601.aspx

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- A day after the revelation of Jesse Jackson’s crude criticism of Barack Obama’s speeches on fatherhood and faith-based initiatives, this morning Michelle Obama was talking about fatherhood, responsibility and accountability.

...His own mother, she said at the beginning of her remarks, was "very young and very single when she had him." And, Obama added, he has observed his wife's attempts to reconcile motherhood with her career aspirations.

Either way, Obama's not a natural born citizen due to his father's citizenship. It's cut and dried to those of us that prefer the Constitution over any political party.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-09   13:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#54)

Just like their money.

Nice.

Fake money, fake president, fake government.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-09   13:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: bluegrass (#56)

It's a document that even the state of Hawaii won't accept without verification of the originating certificate.

You've offered npo proof of that.

If it makes you feel any better, I think Obama's hiding the fact that he was born out of wedlock, per Michelle Obama:

So?

Either way, Obama's not a natural born citizen due to his father's citizenship.

You know that to be a lie.

war  posted on  2009-03-09   13:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: war (#58)

You've offered npo proof of that.

I certainly did. You just refuse to see it:

...In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.

Take the Obama-blinders off and have a look at reality.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-09   13:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: bluegrass (#59)

In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.

Okay.,.I will concede that you did...my error.

Regardless, what Obama has provided more than fulfills both the age and citizenship requirements for POTUS.

You are aware that Hawaii verified that Obama's certificate IS on file and you are aware that Hawaii stamped his COLB as being a factual cpoy or abstract of what is on file?

war  posted on  2009-03-09   15:40:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: bluegrass, nolu, all (#59)

bluegrass, we have a new rule. Negro presidents don't need no stinkin' birth certificates.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-09   15:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jethro Tull (#61)

Wherer is the rule that said that us crackers needed them?

war  posted on  2009-03-09   15:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: war (#62)

The Obama DOW tracking poll is down -105, call your broker!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-09   15:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: war (#60)

You are aware that Hawaii verified that Obama's certificate IS on file and you are aware that Hawaii stamped his COLB as being a factual cpoy or abstract of what is on file?

So you admit that it's not a birth certificate that he released even though he and his campaign say it is? If they'll lie about that, what else do they lie about with regard to his birth record and everything else?

That's the point. If Obama can't be trusted with a simple thing like his own birth records, why should you trust him in anything?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-09   15:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: bluegrass (#59)

Take the Obama-blinders off and have a look at reality.

That would shatter war(t)'s worldview, which happens to be anti-American.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-09   15:52:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Jethro Tull (#61)

Negro presidents don't need no stinkin' birth certificates.

The next [Arab/Israeli/Chinese/British/Mexican] dual-citizen overlord won't need to prove his citizenship either and Obama's the precedent.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-09   15:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: war (#62)

Wherer is the rule that said that us crackers needed them?

McCain released his and it proved he wasn't eligible to be president either. But for some odd reason, the Obama campaign and the media never picked up on it.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-09   15:54:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Jethro Tull (#61)

bluegrass, we have a new rule. Negro presidents don't need no stinkin' birth certificates.

I have no idea who K. Lamb is, but the information is interesting:

Wednesday, August 13, 2008

Obama's - and everybody else's - ethnic ID

This post updates the change in the method used by the federal government to define racial classifications. It comes from the post in the Federal Register by the US Census Bureau. You don't want to miss this . . . it's America's next BIG story about affirmative action.

And for a bit of mystery, did I stumble upon the reason why Barack Obama will not release his birth certificate?


Kenneth E. Lamb

++++++++++++

As a matter of integrity, I must update my findings by telling you that the US Census Bureau changed the definition of "race" for classification purposes. You'll find it in the Federal Register. The quotes following are from them:

Race is no longer defined by "genealogical or anthropological" characteristics as illustrated in my article. Race is now a matter of "sociopolitical self-identification." The Bureau now allows an individual to classify him- or her- self by as many, and whatever, "sociopolitical self-identification" classification(s) appeals to the individual. You can be African-American today, change your mind and be Native-American tomorrow, add Asian the day following, and toss them all out the next day and classify yourself whatever you please the day after that.

So as it stands now with this change in the law, Sen. Obama is legally anything he wants to be. Any of us are; more on that in a moment.

The effect of this was meant to give minority-gerrymandered districts more foundation by removing requirements that challenges to them rest upon the ability of district residents to "prove their lineage" and thus validate their minority status. In sympathy to the Bureau, it's reasonable to believe that coming up with birth records from say, the former South Viet Nam, or Myanmar, to prove Asian minority status, might prove daunting.

The same is true for America's African-American population. I won't go into it too deeply now, but here is a short explanation how it affects that particular segment of American society:

While there may be some states that do not do what follows, I am not aware of any:

States do not allow the mother of a child to claim a father's name on the birth certificate unless the father acknowledges paternity, either by being married at the time of birth, voluntarily admitting paternity, or through a court order assigning paternity.

The most recent figure on black illegitimacy that I am aware of is about 70%. You can figure this out for yourself; if your lineage is from a series of illegitimate births, as we now have with our multi-generational welfare underclass, with no father named on the certificate, how do you prove your "genealogical or anthropological" characteristics if the father is not listed through multiple generations of birth certificates?

Birth certificates lacking a father at high rates also apply to Hispanics as well, although not yet to that level. The reasoning is not only illegitimacy per se, but also the institution of some immigrants seeking to stay in America by having a child on US soil, thus creating an American citizen through that birth.

Either way, how do you prove your minority status if half your lineage through multiple generations doesn't exist on paper?

Please note especially that this is a "change" in the method of defining racial classification. My research was based on the rules before the Census Bureau changed the rules. For those defiling my work, go research for yourself what was the method the Bureau used before it made its "change" in classification methodology.

As the ignorance of the Obama apologists in this blog and other forums demonstrate, America is now to the point that the truth doesn't matter anymore. Just look at the referenced Chicago Tribune article about Mr. Obama's autobiography, and you see for yourself that "An Inconvenient Truth" is not the sole domain of any one political brand.

The reason there were definite standards defining racial classification was to keep the use of affirmative action programs, set-asides, and racial quotas enforceable by keeping out whites who tried to claim minority status. If you take people to court to deny them a seat in the classroom, you must have a defined set of characteristics in law to explain why those people do not qualify for the set-aside. It's too bad so many of America's so-called "intelligentsia" are too dense to get past that rather obvious legal construct.

If all it takes is a claim of, as one recently said, "a single drop of blood," then you have just set up a legal definition of what it takes to qualify as a member of the minority group.

In my own experience with my research, one after another Obama supporter attacked my work because they didn't like the criteria I cited; too bad, take it up with the courts. How do you think they kept whites out of Harvard who claimed to be blacks? They did it by saying the whites didn't have any black in their lineage. That then raises the question of how much black they needed to be classified as blacks. That is where the 1/8 (12.5%) rule of law came from. And it is that 1/8 rule that the Census Bureau tossed out the window in its "change."

Now the rule of law is "sociopolitical self-identification."

It escapes many Obama supporters that you must have a legal definition if you plan to enforce a law. Apparently, the Obama supporters ranting against my article missed the concept that the law is not allowed to be "arbitrary and capricious" - it must be defined, clearly, so that everyone knows when it does, and when it does not, apply.

It's truly scary to read these people and see they completely fail to grasp the idea that the law consists of definitions, or else you can't enforce the law. How else do you think you determine if an applicant for a set-aside qualifies if you don't have a legal definition of what it takes to meet the set-aside criteria? Yes, they are truly scary spouting off their brain-dead, hate-filled bigotries.

Unfortunately, this new twist to defining race is about to prove a major problem for many sectors of society. Let's start with Federal set-aside programs.

Now that anyone is able to classify him-or her- self by their own, private, "sociopolitical self-identification," anyone can legally cash in on these minority-directed programs. If there is a set-aside for African-Americans, just check the box because you feel that your "sociopolitical self-identification" is African-American that day. It's now all perfectly legal.

Couldn't get into the college of your choice because you didn't get past the minority set-aside hurdle? No problem; if you feel that your personal, private, "sociopolitical self-identification" is one of the targeted minority groups, well, go ahead and check the box. With the legal criteria now "sociopolitical self-identification," the days of Harvard, and the University of Michigan, or any of the other hundreds of institutions of higher education throwing you out when you show up white to fill one of their black set-asides is over. You met the legal definition. What are they going to argue in court now that your "genealogical or anthropological" characteristics aren't legal standards for defining racial classification?

I'll let the brains of America's shrinking cadre of affirmative action advocates work on that for a while. It will be breaking nationally soon enough.

Now a couple of very quick responses:

1) I have to admit I'm amazed at the circulation my research got. However, I often see it with a headline authored by someone other than me, and this causes problems because people reading the picked up article think I wrote the inflammatory headline.

My headline is: "Barack Obama: Washington Post, Chicago Tribune investigations confirm autobiography lies; now asking: Is "African-American" a lie too?" ( http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html )

I note that particularly for those posters who did not comprehend that those first-tier news organizations are the source for much of the article. That's why I included their links. Too bad those of you trashing it didn't pick up on that validation of the article's contents. Perhaps you find reading articles that make your prejudices into lies too disconcerting. For you, it's just easier to hate, and run.

2) Many, many, people need a course in African culture before commenting on my work. For example, one poster named Kent Paul Dolan (you can Google him and find out he is a newspaper comics freak) is typical. He, and so many like him need a course in the realities of racial and ethnic segregation as practiced in Africa. Have you yet noticed the fierce tribal identities that cause the bloodbath in Darfur? Perhaps you missed the slaughter along tribal lines in Rwanda? Or the Congo? Or the Ivory Coast?

To Mr. Dolan, and others like him, Arabs do not intermarry with African Negroes in Kenya, or anywhere else in Africa. And neither do African Negroes intermarry with Arabs. Your ignorance of the realities of the African continent is appalling.

Which brings up the New York Times-created legend of Barack Obama's great grandmother. The "black" Obama "great-grandmother" trotted out by the NY Times is his "step" great grandparent. She is therefore not in his bloodline. It's a point the Times didn't dwell upon, just as they didn't bother to go to his father's relatives in the capital and show off their Arab characteristics and family photos.

This brings up another point about the senator’s father. Please note that the Times ran into a serious problem describing his father's relationship with a woman in Kenya that existed when he married "Barry's" mother in Hawaii. It turns out that Mr. Obama was already married to the Kenyan (who was not African Negro either.). That makes Senator Obama the product of a bigamous marriage. And we all know what that means as far as the legality of the marriage and the legitimacy of the marriage's offspring.

I had to laugh watching them wordsmith the relationship with the Kenyan woman as "unclear" and end up calling her his "consort."

And what is the definition of a "consort?" According to the dictionary, it is a spouse. Leave it to the NY Times to be so conflicted about telling the truth about Sen. Obama's situation, that they resort to using their own "unclear" description to paper over it.

But just now, in reading over this post, it just occurred to me: I mentioned that illegitimate births do not have a father's name on the birth certificate. Is that the reason why Sen. Obama refuses to make his birth certificate public . . because he knows there is no father's name listed on the certificate?

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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-09   15:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: bluegrass (#67)

But for some odd reason, the Obama campaign and the media never picked up on it.

Birds of a feather flock brown and white together. ;-)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-09   15:56:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: bluegrass (#67)

he wasn't eligible to be president either

Obama released his birth certificate. Hawaii said it is valid. What MORE do you need? Citizenship and age is all you need.

As for McCain. I pointed out to you that US citizenship passed to McCain at his birth under the US' sole acknowledgement of a tenet of the doctrine of jus sanguis.

war  posted on  2009-03-09   16:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: bluegrass (#64)

So you admit that it's not a birth certificate that he released even though he and his campaign say it is?

Hawaii says it is as well AND it states on the certificate that it is, in fact, a certificate.

war  posted on  2009-03-09   16:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: war (#70)

Obama released his birth certificate.

You just admitted that he released a receipt, not a birth certificate.

Do you know the old joke about the bear and the hunter? You remind me of the hunter.

I pointed out to you that US citizenship passed to McCain at his birth

The why did the Senate feel a special need to pass a special resolution last year for special John McCain stating that McLame was a natural born citizen? If he had an unshakable legal claim, he wouldn't a special Senate act for it, would he?

BTW, Hillary and Obama sponsored that resolution:

link

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-09   16:11:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: bluegrass (#72)

These shills are worthless whores.

I almost pity them. But I don't.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-09   16:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: bluegrass (#72)

You just admitted that he released a receipt, not a birth certificate.

The moderator deleted that post.

The why did the Senate feel a special need to pass a special resolution last year for special John McCain stating that McLame was a natural born citizen? If he had an unshakable legal claim, he wouldn't a special Senate act for it, would he?

Just another bizarre initiative of that particular body and one of which I have no desire to understand.

war  posted on  2009-03-09   16:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Rotara (#73)

Yip...yip...yip...

war  posted on  2009-03-09   16:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: bluegrass (#66)

The next [Arab/Israeli/Chinese/British/Mexican] dual-citizen overlord won't need to prove his citizenship either and Obama's the precedent

You're exactly right. Since corporate journalists are as useless as teats on a bull, nobody (except a constitutionalist) will ever get a through vetting. The entire Obama story reeks, from his mother Stanley, to her relationship w/Franklin Davis the communist bastard in Hawaii. But ya' gotta love the dolts who when their guy is in office retract into protect mode. Honestly, a goofball like war and his fellow knee pad squad are time sponges. It's too late in the game to trade insults with Ds or Rs.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-03-09   16:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Rotara (#73)

I almost pity them. But I don't.

Same here. All outta pity for the deluded and the sycophantic.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-09   16:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: war (#74)

I have no desire to understand.

You prove that every day.

Your Dem pals backed up McCain's bid. What's there to understand?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-09   16:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Jethro Tull (#76)

Honestly, a goofball like war and his fellow knee pad squad are time sponges.

I know. I post to give all of us further ammo down the road when these topics come up again.

This issue will be a sticking point for all of Obama's drizzly reign and we need info.

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-09   16:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: bluegrass (#78)

You prove that every day.

And you routinley strive to discover the higher purpose behind that august body's machinations?

war  posted on  2009-03-09   16:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: war (#80)

And you routinley strive to discover the higher purpose behind that august body's machinations?

Their higher purpose is to keep us under the yoke of the MIC. No one survives the Senate unless they're a complete and utter tool.

Obama was a Senator for how long?

Eff the Bankers

bluegrass  posted on  2009-03-09   16:23:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Jethro Tull (#76)

What does Obama's mother and her relationships have to do with anything.

You see...the problem with yinz ios that yo ucan't help but allow your irrational bile to seep into yer arguments.

The issue here, if ther eis one, is does Obama fulfill that age and citizenship requirements of Article II. That answer to 65MM voters was "yes". Anyone claiming "no" has yet to provide even the tiniest of quark of compelling evidence to the contrary.

war  posted on  2009-03-09   16:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: bluegrass (#81)

Obama was a Senator for how long?

4 years...his qualifications were vetted and debated last year and while they did not satisfy me they most certainly satisfied enough to put him up for election.

war  posted on  2009-03-09   16:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: bluegrass (#81)

MIC

Okay...I give up...

war  posted on  2009-03-09   16:25:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: bluegrass, Jethro Tull (#79)

And you're doing the Lord's work btw, bg. ;-)

I'm past wasting time on these cs'ing bs'ers. I'm good to go and it's almost go time.

The Globalist partisan trash simply needs to be swept out. Do it for the children.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-09   16:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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