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Title: PLEASE DON'T RIOT ...IT'S JUST WHAT THEY WANT (good read)
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URL Source: http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/20744
Published: Mar 9, 2009
Author: David Icke
Post Date: 2009-03-09 11:22:24 by christine
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Comments: 103

As I travel around America it is clear that this country is on the brink of an economic catastrophe the like of which it has never seen. And, of course, it is not alone. A similar story can be told around the world.

The foreclosure figures are fantastic as families and others lose their homes through no fault of their own on a scale that, according to current projections, is destined to become a tidal wave.

The credit explosion was orchestrated through Illuminati agents and Satanists like Alan Greenspan, who represents the interests of the Illuminati's Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission and other far more exclusive and sinister secret societies.

Greenspan was the long-time head of the privately-owned 'US central bank', the Federal Reserve. Once his policies had manipulated as much personal and commercial debt as possible the plug was pulled on the system to trigger what is designed to be global economic meltdown.

Greenspan, who led 'the Fed' under Reagan, Father Bush, Clinton and Boy Bush, operates at a deeper level within the Illuminati network than most of their public figures, and I was told by a former Satanist, an unofficial offspring of the Rothschild family, how he remembered Greenspan at sacrifice rituals he attended:

'I can recall the Rockefellers and the Bushes attending rituals, but never having the supremacy to lead them. I still regard them as lackeys and not real brokers of occult power. Except for Alan Greenspan, most of these fellows were camp followers in the occult, primarily for the economic power and prestige. Greenspan, I recall, was a person of tremendous spiritual, occult power and could make the Bushes and the younger Rockefellers cower with just a glance.'

This, then, is the man who was controlling the United States economy from 1987 to 2006 and who, as planned, oversaw the insane economic policies that led to the current global collapse. Go to another level of understanding and you can see that Greenspan and other Illuminati place-men throughout the world knew exactly what they were doing and what the outcome was planned to be.

Zionist Greenspan got out just before the true scale and consequences of his manipulation came to light. It has been left to others, including his Zionist successor at the 'Fed', Ben Shalom Bernanke, to offer the 'solutions' to the problems that Greenspan and his like created. All of these 'solution' people are controlled by the same force that was, and is, behind Greenspan. This is why Obama has named blatant insiders to his 'economic team' who were fundamentally culpable in the very collapse they have been appointed to 'address'.

The Zionists Tim Geitner, Larry Summers, Paul Volcker etc., who are all stalwarts of the same Bilderberg Group-Council on Foreign Relations-Trilateral Commission network as Greenspan, have no intention of finding a 'solution' that will benefit the people of America or anywhere else.

Neither does Obama's Budget Director, the Zionist Peter R. Orszag. It was Orszag who advised the Russian finance ministry at the time when Zionist oligarchs were raping the Russian economy and stealing its resources and he was a financial advisor to the Icelandic central bank just before the Iceland banking system crashed. Great 'choice', Barack.

During the Clinton administration, Orszag worked with Obama's White House Chief of Staff, the ultra-Zionist Rahm Emanuel, on imposing the NAFTA 'free trade' agreement that has cost incredible numbers of American jobs - exactly as planned. Emanuel served in the Israeli army and is the son of a terrorist with the notorious Irgun, one the terror groups which bombed Israel into existence after World War Two. It was Emanuel who said after Obama's election: 'You never let a serious crisis go to waste'.

Emanuel, a cold and vicious piece of work, is directly controlling Obama and the White House in league with senior White House advisor, the Zionist David Axelrod, who ran the puppet 'president's' election campaign and oversees the writing of the speeches that he reads from the teleprompter screens.

Emanuel: Obama's puppeteer

Axelrod: Obama's voice on the teleprompter screens

At least most of 'Obama's' economic place-men are fundamentally connected to the Zionist Robert E. Rubin, the Treasury Secretary under Bill Clinton, who oversaw financial deregulation that led ultimately to the current crisis. Rubin recently resigned from Citigroup after encouraging the policies that led the company to the brink of collapse. In January 2009, Rubin was named by Marketwatch as one of the '10 most unethical people in business' and his proteges and close associates are now running the US economy under Obama.

Another massive blow to economic confidence came when the Zionist hedge fund crook, Bernard Madoff, revealed that he'd 'lost' $50 billion of his clients' money. He says he acted alone. No bloody chance. Other financial disasters which have collapsed the markets include American International Group (A.I.G.), the insurance giant headed by the Zionist, Maurice Greenberg. It has just announced losses of $61.7 billion for the final three months of 2008 - the biggest quarterly loss in corporate history.

Greenberg is extremely close to the Zionist Henry Kissinger, one of the Illuminati's most vociferous global manipulators of the last 50 years. Kissinger was appointed chairman of A.I.G.'s International Advisory Board in 1987.

Zionist Kissinger with Zionist Greenberg. Anyone see a common theme building here??

Are all these people just breathtakingly incompetent? No, no, no. Their role for the cabal is to destroy the economy and America in general by, among many other things, triggering the financial crisis and then wasting staggering amounts of borrowed money - trillions of dollars - to ensure that there is no way back.

A US TV ad apparently said that if you spent a million dollars a day every day from the alleged birth of 'Christ' to today you would still not spend as much as Obama is spending in borrowed money in his 'stimulus' package - let alone the other fantastic sums on top of that to 'bail' the banks.

They have worked super-fast, using fear and the Obama hype as their weapons, to throw more petrol on the fire in the full knowledge that this will make matters worse, not better. Bush's 'bail out' of the banks has disappeared from the radar with nothing to show for it and now Bush Mark 11, Mr Change, is fronting up the spending of another three trillion.

The biggest recipient of bail-out money has been Maurice Greenberg's A.I.G, which has been given $180 billion in borrowed money that the American taxpayers, and their children, are now responsible for repaying. Rubin's Citigroup is in for $50 billion of borrowed 'government' money.

The idea is not only to collapse the American economy, but to throw so much money at the problem (the banks mostly) as quickly as possible so that the response options of the government are zero by the time the economy really crashes on the scale that is planned.

The same is being orchestrated around the world, as we see in Britain where the Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, is also hurling borrowed money at the banking system only for the situation to go on getting worse. Brown was Chancellor of the Exchequer, in charge of the country's finances, right through the Blair years when he pursued policies that mirrored those of Greenspan.

Now the man who was a major cause of the banking crisis in the UK is asking us to believe that he is the 'saviour' of the financial system. That's like a guy smashing someone around the head with a baseball bat and then claiming to be a hero for driving the fellah to hospital. But these people have no shame.

The global economic collapse is designed to trigger a stream of 'benefits' to the Illuminati agenda. One, as I have said from the start, is to use this as an excuse to impose a global economic dictatorship controlled by a world central bank. But there are many other 'solutions' and connected 'benefits' that are planned to be exploited and we need to be streetwise to them.

The one I want to emphasise here is the need to stay calm and react peacefully to what is happening. This is not easy when there is so much stress and fear around with regard to the economic present and 'future', but we need to do it all the same or we will walk straight into a massive trap that has been set for us.

Let's get this straight: They want you to riot in response to the unfolding economic catastrophe and we are already seeing people falling for this.

Riots in France over economic conditions

Why would the authorities want people to riot? Readers of my books over the years will see the answer immediately. They want an excuse to bring in a fully-fledged Police State all over the world and people who riot in their desperation (instigated invariably by agent-provocateurs) are just the excuse they are looking for.

Be very, very aware of anyone who starts rioting, or encourages others to do so, amid peaceful demonstrations. Who are they and why are they doing this when it is handing all the aces to the system to impose a Police State? They are either stupid or agents of that State.

Regular readers of my newsletters will recall the one about the UK traffic warden who was suddenly given new cards authorising him to do the work of the police and to enter property without permission. His job was supposed to be just handing out tickets for illegal parking and so on. His boss would not discuss why these new cards were being issued, but a police officer friend explained all to him.

The officer said the government was preparing well ahead of time for a coming 'war', during which they were expecting mass protests and rioting in the streets. The police and the military were going to be so focussed on dealing with this that other uniformed professions, like traffic wardens, private security guards, CCTV operators and many others, were going to be brought forward to do the work normally done by the police.

Soon after the traffic warden approached me, the government announced that his profession was being re-designated 'civil enforcement officers', thus disconnecting them from their sole role of dealing with traffic. A few months later the government announced plans for a new group called 'accredited persons' - private security guards, CCTV operators and many others who would be given authority to do some of the work currently confined to the police.

The officer told the traffic warden about a 'war', and that is planned for sure at some point. But the excuse of the war could also have been a cover-story for those people who were needed to work on the preparations, but were not to know the real reason behind it. That real reason, as we can now see, could include economic rioting after the financial collapse that the Shadow People have long known was coming because they were going to cause it - although, I stress again, a war is also being engineered involving the 'West', China and Russia.

I have been stressing this point about the plan to stir up civil unrest and rioting whenever I can and now the insiders are beginning to put that thought into the public mind. 'There could be riots' is designed to communicate the theme subliminally of 'go out and riot'. It is the simple power of suggestion masquerading as 'concern'.

And who should do just that than Zbigniew Brzezinski, the co-founder of the Illuminati Trilateral Commission and one of the chief mentors and controllers of Barack Obama. I won't call him 'President' Obama any longer until he produces a birth certificate to prove he is eligible for the post. Brzezinski told MSNBC:

'... there's going to be growing conflict between the classes and if people are unemployed and really hurting, hell, there could be even riots!'

No, Mr. Brzezinski, you know there are going to be riots because the network you represent is going to do everything it can to make them happen. More and more we are seeing this theme appearing from representatives of the State. The U.S. Army War College has made the same warnings in a document called Known Unknowns: Unconventional 'Strategic Shocks' in Defense Strategy Development.

It said the military must be prepared for a 'violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States', in the light of 'unforeseen economic collapse'. Unforeseen?? You must be joking. The document talks of 'purposeful domestic resistance', 'pervasive public health emergencies' or 'loss of functioning political and legal order'. It goes on:

'Widespread civil violence ... would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security. An American government and defense establishment lulled into complacency by a long-secure domestic order would be forced to rapidly divest some or most external security commitments in order to address rapidly expanding human insecurity at home.

Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States.'

As the traffic warden, now 'civil enforcement officer', found out, this is precisely what they are planning in the UK and the same will be the case in every country because they are all controlled by a world-wide web orchestrating a global agenda. The War College document said that the Department of Defense would be the 'enabling hub' for the 'continuity of political authority in a multi-state or nationwide civil conflict or disturbance'.

Put that through the Orwellian Translation Unit and you get 'the military will control the country'. This has all been planned for a long, long time as I and others have been warning all these years, and the 'hostile groups' the document talks about will be anyone who is challenging the political/military dictatorship in any way, even verbally.

In the light of this, you won't be surprised to know that the US military is currently seeking to spend another $6 million on 'riot equipment'.

Dennis C. Blair, Obama's Director of National Intelligence and Trilateral Commission member, has also said that the economic crisis could create civil unrest in the United States and around the world. He said the crisis was 'regime-threatening' if it continued over one or two years and this manufactured crisis is designed to be much bigger and longer than that. In the simple language that he seems to find so hard to summon, Blair says that there is a greater chance of war during economic turmoil and there's no doubt they have just that planned in the wake of what is happening now.

Other establishment figures who have warned of unrest and rioting include the heads of the World Trade Organisation and the International Monetary Fund, both Illuminati organisations to their core, and anyone who heads them will be, by definition, gofers for the cabal.

In the UK, yet again confirming the validity of the traffic warden story, the head of the police branch dealing in public order has warned of a possible 'Summer of Rage' over rising unemployment and the economic crash. Superintendent David Hartshorn of London's Metropolitan Police said that 'known activists' were planning to exploit the situation to mount mass protests and he pointed to the G20 Summit in London in April as a likely target, along with banks.

The London Sunday Express has also reported that UK police and 'security' services are preparing to deal with rioting and 'the chilling prospect of soldiers being drafted on to the streets has not been discounted ...'

Riots in Greece

Mass protests around the world are no longer simply predictions because they are already happening and, with the global economy yet to collapse on anything like the scale it is intended to, we have seen nothing yet. Some 120,000 people demonstrated in Dublin over the handling of the economic crisis in Ireland, a million protestors have been on the streets in France, UK oil refinery and power station workers launched a series of strikes in protest at the use of foreign workers, and the riots across Greece late last year were partly economic in nature.

Albert Pike

I can encapsulate what is going on here with part of a letter alleged to have been sent in 1871 by Albert Pike, a Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in America, to Giuseppe Mazzini, the Illuminati 'revolutionary' in Italy. In this letter, Pike is said to have detailed the background to three world wars the Illuminati was planning to bring about their global dictatorship. The first two happened as he predicted and this is what he said about the third:

'The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion ...

... We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.'

Click here for more background ...

Many dismiss the letter as a myth, but in the context I am using it that doesn't matter. What it says is what is planned - an economic and social catastrophe in which the people turn on themselves in their engineered desperation and all morality is submerged in a mass battle for perceived survival.

The term 'nihilism', used in the Pike letter, has this dictionary definition:

* Rejection of all distinctions in moral or religious value and a willingness to repudiate all previous theories of morality or religious belief.

* The belief that destruction of existing political or social institutions is necessary for future improvement.

That pretty much sums it up, really, and this is why they want people to riot all over the world to destroy the existing order, which, yes, the Illuminati created, but they now seek to replace that with the next stage of their tyranny - total global control. This means that national governments and nation states must be destroyed to allow a world government to assume its dictatorship.

Look at that definition of 'nihilism' again in the light of this: 'The belief that destruction of existing political or social institutions is necessary for future improvement.'

'Rioter' and police dealing with the 'rioter' - all wearing the same police-issue boots. Just a coincidence, nothing to worry about.

Already waiting in the wings are the agent provocateurs and the useful idiots primed to start the riots and civil unrest that the idiots believe to be challenging the existing order. But the existing order was created by the same network of Illuminati families that are seeking to create the 'new order', the New World Order, which is planned to emerge from the turmoil and chaos they are now engineering.

To achieve this, as always, they need our cooperation and let no-one be in any doubt that those who choose to riot and loot in response to what is happening, and encourage others to riot and loot, are walking straight into the trap that has been laid for them. The government and military agent provocateurs will know that, the useful idiots will not, but it is time they did.

I have met few more concrete-minded or naive people than those that are termed the extreme end of the political 'Left'. They have been played like a violin for hundreds of years to change the world in the image of the Illuminati blueprint in violent revolutions to bring down the established order. Now they are being gathered again to complete the journey to global tyranny and provide the violence and chaos that is designed to open the way to a world government, world army, world central bank, world electronic currency and a microchipped population connected to the global positioning satellite system, or GPS, among many other technologies of surveillance and control.

The riots and looting they want to see, the chaos, will be met with the installation of a Police State with curfews, jail without trial, the military on the streets, and the activation of the concentration camps for 'dissidents' that we have long warned about. They are officially called 'military installations', run by FEMA, the deeply-sinister Federal Emergency Management Agency, and it is no coincidence, of course, that a bill numbered H.R. 645 is passing through Washington 'to direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations'. No, concentration camps, and other countries will have them prepared also.

Look at what that War College document said: 'Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States.' Might? It's a certainty because that's the plan and all the laws are in place to allow them to do it. They have been passed by governments around the world as 'anti-terror' legislation, but they use the terms 'terror' and 'terrorist' in such a non-specific way that all these laws can be applied to the entire population of the country that the 'laws' were supposed to protect according to their advocates.

It was all a gigantic con, as some of us tired of pointing out. It had nothing to do with terrorists who are alleged to plant bombs and so on. All these laws have been put into place with the specific goal of controlling the mass of the people through a Police State when they triggered an economic collapse, together with new wars.

Add to all this a stream of presidential executive orders signed by successive presidents without oversight by either the House of Representatives or the Senate. These are unconstitutional and make the president a virtual dictator. Click here to see the powers that the State can activate, thanks to these orders, when martial law is declared.

This is why Obama's Zionist Svengali, the White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, is seeking to have gun ownership curtailed - to make the military takeover easier. Meantime, more people are seeking to be armed and requests for concealed weapon permits in Florida alone are up 42 per cent in 45 days with the consequences of the economic turmoil in mind.

The military on the streets of Iraq. How long before the same is seen on the streets of America and elsewhere?

The only way to stop all this is not to react as they want us to, with violence and hostility to both the State and each other. How many violent revolutions have led to just another tyranny, official or unofficial, to replace the one that fell? It has to be so because what is destroyed by violence will be replaced by the same energy. As I have said in my books, what you fight, you become.

John Lennon put it perfectly when he sang:

You say you want a revolution Well, you know We all want to change the world You tell me that it's evolution Well, you know We all want to change the world But when you talk about destruction Don't you know that you can count me out ...

... You say you got a real solution Well, you know We'd all love to see the plan You ask me for a contribution Well, you know We're doing what we can But when you want money for people with minds that hate All I can tell is brother you have to wait

Revolution (1968) ... click here to watch ...

Martin Luther King also put it brilliantly when he said of rioting:

'The limitation of riots, moral questions aside, is that they cannot win and their participants know it. Hence, rioting is not revolutionary but reactionary because it invites defeat. It involves an emotional catharsis, but it must be followed by a sense of futility.'

Those are the words of a revolutionary who succeeded through peaceful non-cooperation. Yes, they killed him, but what he created through non-violence and determination went forth to end segregation. Physical life does not matter when compared with what is right, for we are all eternal Conciousness having an illusory experience and the greatest illusion is death.

I would much rather die 'early' doing what I knew to be right than to eek out a few more illusory years as a slave to a tyranny.

But there is no need even for that to bring an end to this nonsense. There are billions of people being enslaved and a comparative handful doing the enslaving. Er, I think I see a way out of this.

We need to come together in mutual support, love, kindness and empathy. We need to put aside the manufactured fault-lines that divide us - religion, politics, race, culture and income bracket. That is not to say people have to reject their beliefs, just don't let them be weapons of division.

We are all in this together and we need to meet the challenge together, not steal from each other, loot or riot, or look the other way because something happening to someone else is 'not my problem'. They are not seeking to enslave Muslims, Jews, black people, or white middle class Americans and so on. They are seeking to do it to all of us and they are picking off different groups one by one, just like the Nazis did in Germany. Remember these famous words because they are so applicable now:

First they came for the Jews and I was not a Jew so I did nothing. Then they came for the communists and I was not a communist so I did nothing. Then they came for the trade unionists and I was not a trade unionist so I did nothing. Then they came for me and there was no-one left to speak out for me.

Let us unite behind that which affects everyone - the loss of our most basic freedoms. And if this is being planned now, what kind of world are our children and grandchildren going to live in? Can you live with that thought while doing nothing or rioting as the authorities want? I can't.

We need to start getting organised in communities and groups to support each other and stop cooperating with the system - not to fight it. The system can only exist with our cooperation and acquiesce. We are holding it together. They have their men and women of violence, called the military and 'Swat' teams, to deal with violent resistance.

But their worst nightmare is our non-cooperation - the refusal to pay taxes; refusal to leave homes when banks foreclose on them; refusal to 'comply' with our own enslavement in any form. The system couldn't cope if this was done on a mass scale. And that's the point: to do this we need to do it en-masse and those not immediately affected need to support those who are.

Instead of compliance, we need the non-comply-dance of people who beat to a different drum and will not comply with what is unfair, unjust, or targets their freedom and the freedom of others. This approach does not refuse to comply in a spirit of hostility, rage or violence, but with love, joy and laughter - and an unbreakable determination not to cooperate with their own enslavement.

We need a mass refusal join the military, especially if they try to introduce the Draft; a refusal to do the compulsory 'community service' for young people that Obama's controllers want to introduce (as does the UK government); and a refusal to join, or accept the legitimacy of, Obama's planned civilian security force, which is nothing more than a scam to get the people to police the people on behalf of the Elite in the midst of the economic collapse and war.

We need to start getting together local currency schemes that can operate outside the system and, yes, people should also have mass protests if they choose, so long as they are peaceful. But they need to be part of the campaign of non-violent, non-cooperation, not the focus of it.

How many mass protests have there been over the years around the world and yet everything just goes on as before, be it war or globalisation. We need to stop posturing and then heading for the bar to feel good about ourselves and start doing what will actually make a difference.

Mass protests can ease frustration - steam whistles as I call them - but what good do most of them do? Mass non-cooperation with the system is far more effective.

The protests need to be targeted at non-cooperation, refusing to accept laws that ban assembly by massive numbers turning up; surrounding the homes of neighbours when the bank bailiffs come to put them on the street; and so filling the locations of government and finance with masses of people that the system cannot function. Workers who provide essential services to government, police and financial institutions etc., can refuse to do so until Orwellian laws and financial injustice are removed. In this way the perpetrators are affected, not the mass of the people, as with all-out strikes.

And all of this needs to be good humoured and strictly peaceful.

I would say this also to those in uniform. You may think you have power, but you are just pawns in the game like anyone else. You don't have the power, your uniform does, because that is an extension of the State. Those inside are just there to animate the uniform and do the bidding of those it represents. When you are useful to the cabal they'll praise you and when you are surplus to their requirements as part of the bigger agenda they'll show you the door.

You have children and grandchildren, too, who will have to live in the world you are policing into existence by 'following orders' and believing the manipulative nonsense fed to you by governments and cabal 'training' fronts like the UK-based Common Purpose. Wake up from the trance and stop building a Police State for your own children and grandchildren - and everyone else. Think about the consequences for those you love of what you are doing - and stop doing it.

More than anything, we all need to free our minds and become conscious. From that, everything else will come, including the intuition, inspiration and knowing that will guide us on how most effectively to deal with what we face.

If there are many things you would like to do in a room, but the room is dark and you can't see, what is the fundamental first step to anything else happening? You have to turn on the light and then all the rest becomes possible. Without that you are thrashing around in the dark and falling over the furniture.

That is what 'humans' are doing today and have been for so long. They have been manipulated to believe they are their bodies and their names when those are just the experiences of who they truly are - eternal Consciousness. As the great American comedian, Bill Hicks, said:

'... all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.'

The divisions between us are illusory to allow a certain kind of experience, but these illusions have been exploited mercilessly to divide and rule us.

ENOUGH!

When we awaken to the truth of who we are the world looks very different and so do the challenges that are put before us - or we put before ourselves. Move your point of observation and everything changes. Try it. Try ceasing to identify who you are with your body, your name and the reflection in the mirror. Try seeing those things as experiences and not who you are. Try observing your life and the world from the perception of the real you - eternal Conciousness, All That Is, Has Been and Ever Can Be in our illusion called 'time'.

Eternal Conscious in awareness of itself doesn't riot; it is not violent and it doesn't loot. But nor does it ever do, or accept for itself and others, what is not fair, just, loving and kind. Crucially, Consciousness is without fear. When we operate on that level then we can truly claim to be Conscious and not trapped in the illusion called Mind. As Albert Einstein said: 'You cannot solve problems with the same level of consciousness that created them.'

John Lennon also made this key point in Revolution about what needs to happen to really make a difference. We need to free our minds and become Conscious:

You say you'll change the constitution Well, you know We all want to change your head You tell me it's the institution Well, you know You better free you mind instead But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow

We are now fast heading for the eye of the storm that has been planned for so long to enslave the global population in a centralised tyranny. But we don't have to accept it or acquiesce to it, meekly looking on as the walls of control close in by the day.

But that is what is happening and it has to stop. For everyone's sake, it has to stop.

We can come together, we MUST come together, putting aside the fault-lines of race, religion, culture and income bracket. These are just illusory labels through which we are divided and therefore ruled. Believe in them if you wish, and enjoy them if they make you happy, but don't let them divide us any longer.

We need to come together in mutual support at this time as those with sick minds and closed hearts are poised to throw everything at us to complete their agenda for total control. Whether their insanity prevails is not in their hands, but in ours. It is we who have the power if only we would choose to use it.

We are One Consciousness deluded into thinking we are 'little me'. When we realise that we are all One - and act upon that with courage, love, kindness, peace and empathy for all who need support - the walls of oppression must fall.

But sitting on your arse hoping it will all go away is no longer an option.

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#64. To: christine (#63)

the key, imo, is that we-the-people need a percentage of our military/national guard/law enforcement to stand with us. a true solution is the establishment of constitutional militias in every state.

I don't know if it could be referred to as a key element for success but it certainly would be helpful.

I am certain in my heart that the majority of those folks you mentioned do not take the oath seriously. If they did we would not be at the point we are. Don't you think?

I'd be willing to bet they have little or no knowledge of the CONSTITUTION or its meaning. Or their consepts of it have been distorted by public education.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-03-10   15:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: TwentyTwelve (#55)

Hopefully we can awaken some of the sheeple asap.

You can take that hopefully and 5 bucks to Starbucks and get a latte. I want some of what you're smoking!

LACUMO  posted on  2009-03-10   15:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: PSUSA, phantom patriot (#59)

the Founders and revolutionists didn't have millions of illegals to contend with either. this is where this government has been the most treasonous. they are first and foremost constitutionally bound to protect our borders.

christine  posted on  2009-03-10   15:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: phantom patriot (#64)

the key, imo, is that we-the-people need a percentage of our military/national guard/law enforcement to stand with us. a true solution is the establishment of constitutional militias in every state.

Boy are you brilliant. Go ahead and contact the pentagon, the courts, and the poliza and ask them to join us in peaceful demonstrations so we can take our country back. They have places for people who think like you do. Those places are call insane asylums.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-03-10   15:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: LACUMO (#67)

the key, imo, is that we-the-people need a percentage of our military/national guard/law enforcement to stand with us. a true solution is the establishment of constitutional militias in every state.

Ummmmm Christine posted that comment.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-03-10   15:23:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: phantom patriot (#60)

However the scum that would selfishly loot and destroy for no purpose could be an excellent diversion so the Patriots can do what needs to be done

Quoted for truth.

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X-15  posted on  2009-03-10   15:24:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: LACUMO (#65)

Hopefully we can awaken some of the sheeple asap.

You can take that hopefully and 5 bucks to Starbucks and get a latte. I want some of what you're smoking!

Most of the sheeple are brain-dead for life and will never recover.

However, I have awakened a few.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-10   15:25:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: christine (#66)

the Founders and revolutionists didn't have millions of illegals to contend with either. this is where this government has been the most treasonous. they are first and foremost constitutionally bound to protect our borders.

That could work against them as well. I have a strong feeling those folks will be too concerned over what they can get by looting.

So if that were to transpire they would help the Patriots by keeping the gov. busy.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-03-10   15:26:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: TwentyTwelve (#70)

However, I have awakened a few.

SHIT!

Now I know you are delusional. What did you awaken them to? If you let them know that they are a bunch of spineless dumbed down sheople, you would have done them a great service. Someone needs to awaken you.

LACUMO  posted on  2009-03-10   15:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: christine (#63)

the key, imo, is that we-the-people need a percentage of our military/national guard/law enforcement to stand with us. a true solution is the establishment of constitutional militias in every state.

OK, we can agree to disagree. Especially about your first sentence...

We already have the second. The dumb ones (IMO) are organized. The smart ones are not organized. It's all constitutional. But the dumb ones are infiltrated already. They can be taken down at the governments convenience.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-10   15:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: PSUSA (#73)

We already have the second. The dumb ones (IMO) are organized. The smart ones are not organized. It's all constitutional. But the dumb ones are infiltrated already. They can be taken down at the governments convenience.

I understand the principles of what you are saying. But some orginization will be necessary at some point to be effective if you want to win.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-03-10   15:36:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: christine (#66)

they are first and foremost constitutionally bound to protect our borders.

If one of TPB read this they would ROFLTAO. They are only going to do what they want. Remember the asshole traitor bush said our Constitution was nothing but a god damned piece of paper.

I'd like to go into have more discussions but must. do a few things before me and the Mrs. go to a Boy Scout sponsored spaghetti dinner. We like to go to these annual dinners just to look over to see who the latest crop of gay scoutmasters are.

Will be back later

LACUMO  posted on  2009-03-10   15:48:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: phantom patriot (#74)

I agree. But the way I see it, organization will have to wait until people prove themselves. This is the one and only reason I dont join an organized unit. I already have everything I need except a slim and trim body and that is being worked on, but I dont trust them, and they dont trust me, because none of us knows each other.

Here's a essay on leaderless resistance. IMO it's good. www.4shared.com/file/7535...eaderless_Resistance.html

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-10   15:50:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: LACUMO (#75)

We like to go to these annual dinners just to look over to see who the latest crop of gay scoutmasters are.

Gaydar tuned and calibrated, huh? LOL!

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-10   15:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: PSUSA (#76)

I agree. But the way I see it, organization will have to wait until people prove themselves. This is the one and only reason I dont join an organized unit. I already have everything I need except a slim and trim body and that is being worked on, but I dont trust them, and they dont trust me, because none of us knows each other.

I understand and fully agree.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that its people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

phantom patriot  posted on  2009-03-10   15:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Original_Intent (#35)

Were I going to take armed action it would be to start staging hits on the top members of the NWO/Globalists/Illuminists/Banksters.

bump


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-10   16:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: RickyJ (#38)

hehehehe - have you hugged a Fabian today ??


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-10   16:15:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Rotara, Original_Intent, ALL (#79)

Were I going to take armed action it would be to start staging hits on the top members of the NWO/Globalists/Illuminists/Banksters.

double bump

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-10   16:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Tatarewicz (#39)

It's unlikely that the current economic stalemate is the result of any deliberate conspiracy to destroy current societal arrangements; more likely it's the result of politicians having no long range foresight, being inept, and in America

Bullshit. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Edumacate yourself.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-10   16:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: TwentyTwelve (#81)

hola amigo !


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-10   16:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: James Deffenbach (#43)

no time this morning

Herding cats were you ?? Glad to see you're up and taking nutrients. ;-)


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-10   16:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Tatarewicz (#39)

It's unlikely that the current economic stalemate is the result of any deliberate conspiracy to destroy current societal arrangements..

ROTFLMAO

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-10   16:19:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: PSUSA (#44)

I disagree, let them crack down. Knock yourselves out, crack down all you want. Let's get the ball rolling!

There are enough trip wires set that they will cross the wrong American on the wrong day and it'll be Katy-bar-the-door. IMO


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams


Rotara  posted on  2009-03-10   16:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Rotara, PSUSA (#86)

I disagree, let them crack down. Knock yourselves out, crack down all you want. Let's get the ball rolling!

There are enough trip wires set that they will cross the wrong American on the wrong day and it'll be Katy-bar-the-door. IMO

It is getting very tense right now.

The air is heavy.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2009-03-10   16:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: PSUSA (#73)

the key, imo, is that we-the-people need a percentage of our military/national guard/law enforcement to stand with us.

are you familiar with Officer Jack McLamb and his Police and Military Against the NWO organization? he puts out a police/military newsletter, Aid and Abet, as well as does weekly radio shows on both GCN and RBN. i think his mission of educating and rallying those in uniform is extremely important and, yes, i am convinced that we're going to need as many of them as we can get fighting with us and not against us.

Operation Vampire Killer 2000, American Police Action Plan for Stopping World Government Rule

christine  posted on  2009-03-10   19:11:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: PSUSA (#73)

Constitutional Militia is what we're supposed to have, but don't. See Edwin Vieira's definition~

The fundamental operational principle of the constitutional Militia is that everyone who is physically able is required to be armed--with his own personal military-grade firearm, ammunition, and necessary accoutrements in his own possession at home-- and ready to repel invasions, suppress rebellions and insurrections, and enforce the laws, especially against usurpation and tyranny.

christine  posted on  2009-03-10   19:24:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: christine (#89)

Do shovels count?

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-03-10   20:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Esso (#90)

that would come under necessary accoutrements. gotta be able to bury the bodies. ;)

christine  posted on  2009-03-10   20:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: christine (#88)

Aid and Abet. How ironic is that.

Tell me, do you think it is difficult for me to find stories about the criminals that wear badges? It is as hard as finding dirt in the garden.

The only question is if it is worthy of posting, or is it just not severe enough. But those articles dont get much response here, so I will quit posting them. It's just not worth the effort.

They are either all guilty of the crimes, or they "aid and abet" those that commit the crimes.

I trust McLamb and any other pig you care to name not nearly as far as I could throw the J Edgar Hoover building. I include Ted Gunderson in that also and I used to have some respect for him.

If you see it different, no problem.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-10   20:54:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: christine (#89)

The fundamental operational principle of the constitutional Militia is that everyone who is physically able is required to be armed--with his own personal military-grade firearm, ammunition, and necessary accoutrements in his own possession at home-- and ready to repel invasions, suppress rebellions and insurrections, and enforce the laws, especially against usurpation and tyranny.

If people aren't properly armed and equipped, then they arent militia. Those that are militia are properly armed and equipped.

I dont see what the difference is. How is it we dont have that already?

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-10   20:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Old Friend, christine, jethro tull, twentytwelve, rotara, psusa, original_intent, ALL (#2)

People just want too much for free.

So you advocate the status quo of removing everyone's own money from them as they work all their lives and redistributing it to others? Had this not happened, most people could've retired at 50. Most only want a refund of what is rightfully theirs. Ron Paul is right. Just write us all a refund check and to hell with the userers.

Every post on this thread holds validity, especially christine's illumination of the problem associated with backward thinking in #50 I believe.. The problem, and its history, have been identified. The solutions can not be effectively articulated or discussed without unpleasant consequences, which is proof of the tyranny under which we live. When some segue from sparring to full contact, they are assumed to be provacateurs who wish to incite in us those utterances which will invoke some vague federal law and the resulting JBT action, while those who continue to merely spar for pragmatic reasons are considered insincere.

It is regrettable, but unblievably ironic, that we find ourselves in a far more dangerous and despicable predicament than the likes of Patrick Henry and Benjamin Franklin and suffer their company if only in spirit. Their discussions, too, would have netted them the noose by the JBTs of their day.

Eventually, Niemoller's corollary will overtake us all, regardless of our actions or inactions. They will come in one fashion or another, whether it is to continue to fashion illegal and unconstitutional legislation which confiscates life and liberty, or whether it is to permanently remove the agitators from the midst of the flock by force. Regardless of the cause and means, all will eventually face the decision we've been taught to respect: Liberty or Death. Unfortunately, history has proven that tyranny always calls the bluff.

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"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." ~~ IndieTx

You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom.~~William Wallace

ALAS, BABYLON

IndieTX  posted on  2009-03-10   21:08:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: PSUSA (#92)

Tell me, do you think it is difficult for me to find stories about the criminals that wear badges? It is as hard as finding dirt in the garden.

oh, i understand, but you do realize that we have a couple of xcops here on 4um who, like mcLamb, are harder on this new crop of thugs than anyone else. one told me that he didn't trust any cop who didn't have gray hair.

i know McLamb personally. i've had him stay in my home. i do trust him. as an aside, Randy Weaver is also a personal friend and he trusts Jack. not so with Gritz though.

christine  posted on  2009-03-10   21:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: christine (#54)

here's the difference. the Founders/Revolutionists were fighting an enemy without. we're fighting an enemy within--not to mention the logistics in terms of size of the country and technology between then and now. the political leaders have had 200+ years to build their arsenal of weaponry against us. a revolution now would have to be fought in a totally different manner--unless at some point we were able to rally and amass 100s of millions to march on washington ala V for Vendetta.

At the time Britain was not an outside enemy at all. The colonists themselves were British citizens. Only one third of them even wanted independence from Great Britain. Many of them even aided the British during the revolution, not because they were traitors, but becasue they considered the revolutionaries traitors to Great Britain, which they were.

The situation we are facing now is different becasue of technology, but just as the government can use technology to track people and enslave them, freedom fighters can use it to track the government goons and give them false data to chase.

Thinking that victory over a draconian government is impossible today is just what the elite want you to think. Marching on Washington would make them laugh. They don't care about any marches. They didn't care about the March in July and the rally on the Capitol lawn that I attended either. At that rally one speaker actually felt no fear in telling everyone that 9/11 was an inside job which was heard all around the surrounding area for blocks due to the speakers being turned up very high. The elite did not fear him or the crowd there to hear this and applaud him. The only thing they fear is action, words and marches they laugh at.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2009-03-11   0:58:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Rotara (#79)

Were I going to take armed action it would be to start staging hits on the top members of the NWO/Globalists/Illuminists/Banksters.

Thanks. The hotheads/provocateurs don't get it. If you start killing the low level flunkies you'll be dead without creating any affect on their masters - because they don't care how many troops and cops are killed. You could kill a million of their minions and they still wouldn't care. That is why a direct confrontation is pointless and stupid. All that would result is a Police State Crack Down. If you cut off the head of the snake you have a better chance. H.E. at the Bilderberg conference would be a more reliable and rational attack. At this point it would still not be effective but would have an affect. At this point violence originating from the Patriot side would simply result in liquidation of the Patriots.

""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician

Original_Intent  posted on  2009-03-11   1:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: christine (#95)

I know about the ex-cops here. There are at least 2. I trust them, as much as I can trust anyone online. But if we met, we'd get along fine.

Who knows, maybe McLamb and others post here. If they post under a different names, maybe I already do trust them. But I think it's stupid to trust anyone because they, in the past, used wear the same types of clothes to work. Just because they are retired doesn't mean they weren't criminals that wore badges too. Corruption goes way back.

I dont believe we'll know who is really trustworthy until after the crash. Then we'll see them for what they are.

Under those terms, I myself am suspect. And that is the way it should be, IMO.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-11   6:57:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: PSUSA (#98)

I dont believe we'll know who is really trustworthy until after the crash. Then we'll see them for what they are.

When it comes down to a choice between the Constitution or a paycheck, less than 1-in-1,000 will make the right choice. The police and their families are the enemy. Nits make lice.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2009-03-11   7:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Esso (#99)

Time will tell. I hope you are wrong but I bet you're right.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-11   7:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: IndieTX (#94) (Edited)

Unfortunately, history has proven that tyranny always calls the bluff.

I dont believe that is unfortunate. Let them call our bluff. It's the only way to remove these air thieves from the gene pool.

What's unfortunate, IMO, is that we are already in this mess. Because this is what happens when you go against psychopaths. If you arent as ruthless as they are, you lose. They will almost always climb to the top of the ladder.

And none of us is as ruthless as a psychopath. Yet.

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PSUSA  posted on  2009-03-11   7:34:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: IndieTX (#94)

So you advocate the status quo of removing everyone's own money from them as they work all their lives and redistributing it to others?

Your full of it if you believe that.

Old Friend  posted on  2009-03-11   9:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: IndieTX, ALL (#94)

Every post on this thread holds validity

The solutions can not be effectively articulated or discussed without unpleasant consequences, which is proof of the tyranny under which we live.

It is regrettable, but unblievably ironic, that we find ourselves in a far more dangerous and despicable predicament than the likes of Patrick Henry and Benjamin Franklin and suffer their company if only in spirit.

well said, Indie. we all agree in principle, but our ideas for methods and solutions differ.

christine  posted on  2009-03-11   11:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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